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Originally Posted by Rich
Yes, he won with about 80% of the vote. I believe he has also won a referendum since then. It's none of your business if a country decides they want communism or socialism instead of free market neo-liberalism, that's the point. America doesn't control the world. Just because it's in your "best interests" to have a puppet dictator who will sell you oil on the cheap and clamp down on dissidents, doesn't mean that you have the right to kidnap the president and install that dictator.
And most Americans can't understand why the rest of the world hates them.
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The thing is you don`t know the whole story, you only know what the venezuelan government has paid for you to know.
He won with around 56% of the votes with a huge number of people that didn`t vote. I won`t say he didn`t win fair and square.
By the time the proposal for the referendum came around people started collecting signatures for activating it.We did it once.The CNE (National electoral council,totally controlled by Chavez) rejected it saying it wasn`t transparent. We collected signatures again under the CNE`s rules, which included publishing all the signatures collected against the president in national media.Now if that isn`t intimidation and totally undemocratic I don`t know what is.How many people do you think that work for the government or had contracts with the government or where remotely connected with it were going to sign?? What about the secrecy of vote?
We still did it and collected more than enough signatures.
Then came the time for the referendum.The CNE decided to do it with electronic voting machines.No one had the source for the code that ran the machines.Anyone here that has some remote knowledge about computers knows you can program a computer to do anything you want.Still the CNE refused to show the source code saying it was for security reasons.
We went to vote.Of course ,Chavez won.Every exit poll by 4pm was saying Chavez had lost in spite of all the obstacles.
When an audit of the paper trail these machines left was demanded , the CNE refused again.After 3 weeks and dozens of images in the news of the boxes containing the votes of the people in government offices,they acccepted to do the audit.But only to random boxes chosen,once again, by a program in a computer in the CNE.Of course nothing was amiss.
I don`t know about you but this doesn`t seem very democratic to me.
The thing is the venezuelan opposition doesn`t have the millions of dollars available to tell the whole story.Chavez on the other hand has millions of dollars of Venezuelan`s money to spread his propaganda and lies around the world.