Correct me if I'm wrong but has the british police KILLED an innocent man today? - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thaifan99

How many here run from cops when they are stopped?

If I am running, I haven't been stopped.

and yeah, I have done it.

I think the real issue here is the fact that after he was stopped, with 5 cops on him, they decided to murder him.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

let's see what will happen after the "pullout plan". soldiers (or civilians) won't be there anymore. will you admit you were wrong if they continue shooting qasam missiles, this time deeper into israel?

you keep shifting the topic to be a jewish thing, its not. I was merely discussing police/military vs. civilians , and how they should be treated..

As far as gaza pullout, i honestly am not informed enough to give any sort of accurate opinion on that. there are lots of factors involved , i dont know nearly as much as i should.

Will the pullout plan be a "miracle" in peace ? very doubtfull on either side..

Will missiles still be fired by both sides ? most likely.. hopefully not..

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

They are trained to shoot people that are unarmed but possibly suicidal?

yup from what i hear thats the sounds of it..

suicidal terrorists yes, ( dont ask me how they discern terrorists from civilians thats obviously something they will want to discuss now that they have killed an unarmed an possibly unsuicidal civilian )

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

why did they jump him then ?

Because he was a suspect that they wanted to kill/talk to.

No way in hell would you find 5 cops, all at the same place, at the same time, that would jump on a bomb.

In war you hear of rare individuals that would throw themselves on a grenade to protect others. You never read about 5 guys fighting for the privilege.

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 11:27 AM

To jump through the turnstyle takes serious effort. He wanted to get to the platform withouth being searched. What would you think if you were one of the police?

There is a guy in a large jacket jumping the turnstyle at a time when there are suicide bombers.

The police didnt take a chance and got rid of him. How were they to know he didnt have a bomb? He displayed all the signs of someone who could have been a suicide bomber. Say they hadnt shot him and he got to the platform and denoted the bomb killing loads of people? Everyone would have been asking why he had been under surveilance and didnt get wasted.

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

When will you lot understand this was not a random shooting. It was a special services opperation

When will you understand it was murder?

I can picture the scene now. 5 cops take him down. 4 cops doing what they are supposed to do, and 1 guy, like Relish, that happened to have a friend die in the blasts from 2 weeks ago, goes postal and decides to take things into his own hands and executes him.

alexg · 07-23-2005, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

you keep shifting the topic to be a jewish thing, its not. I was merely discussing police/military vs. civilians , and how they should be treated..

I was commenting on your statement that you believe IDF soldiers shouldn't be there in the first place. soon we will have a chance to see what happens in such case. my guess: MORE terrorism.

Scott McD · 07-23-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

When will you understand it was murder?

I can picture the scene now. 5 cops take him down. 4 cops doing what they are supposed to do, and 1 guy, like Relish, that happened to have a friend die in the blasts from 2 weeks ago, goes postal and decides to take things into his own hands and executes him.

Who cares ??

Like Relish said, if the guy hadn't acted like a fuckwit, the incident would never have happened.

They couldn't take the chance, so the guy paid the price...

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

you could use a shirt as a sling or a shoelace , so technically you are armed now and by the same reasoning should be shot for stupidity if you wander into the wrong area

If I have my shirt off, and twisted in a manner that it could be used as a sling, and I am in an area like South Central during the Rodney King riots, yeah, I guess so.

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but seriously, dont you ever remember being a kid ? didnt you throw rocks at things ? people ? did you deserve to die for stupidity ? ( mind you , you weren't throwing rocks at people with guns

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The last house I lived at with my parents was a corner lot, with a front yard made up of decorative rocks. There were times there were as many rocks in the street as there were in the yard. I have split heads with rocks. I had quite the arm, and great aim. If I was dumb enough to throw rocks at someone with a gun, I think I would deserve whatever I got. These kids in Palestine want to be martyrs, that is why they are throwing the rocks in the first place.

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If a group of kids was throwing rocks at me , i would propably move my tank to a different location.

Remind me to never hire you as part of an occupying force if rocks will make you move your tank.

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

suicidal terrorists yes, ( dont ask me how they discern terrorists from civilians thats obviously something they will want to discuss now that they have killed an unarmed an possibly unsuicidal civilian )

Sounds like they just pick one from the crowd . . . I believe we call it racial profiling here in the states.

alexg · 07-23-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Remind me to never hire you as part of an occupying force if rocks will make you move your tank.

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

Who cares ??

Like Relish said, if the guy hadn't acted like a fuckwit, the incident would never have happened.

They couldn't take the chance, so the guy paid the price...

So, we can eliminate anyone that acts like a fuckwit? I hope you say your prayers at night.

What would happen if this happened in LA? How many of you guys jumped all over LAPD when the little girl got shot when her daddy decided to use her as a human shield?

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 11:46 AM

He displayed all the signs for a suicide bomber and got shot. End of story. The police are told to shoot suicide bombers in the head as body shots can set off the explosives.

He acted a dick and paid for it with his life. It was a harsh sentance for being an idiot but then again what did he expect.

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:47 AM

I still think we should apply this rule everywhere.

Act like an idiot, pay for it with your life.

Pim(P) · 07-23-2005, 11:48 AM

All I heared was that he wasn't involved in the suicide bombings. He could very well have been some kind of gangster.

thaifan99 · 07-23-2005, 11:49 AM

The British police have a special authorisation at this moment in time,.....

Its called Operation Kratos...

They are told to shoot in the head instead of the torso.

head shots immobilise most muscle control instantly so the bombers cannot detonate anything...............and torso shots may set off any explosives.

Theo · 07-23-2005, 11:54 AM

do you know what kratos means?

Scott McD · 07-23-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I still think we should apply this rule everywhere.

Act like an idiot, pay for it with your life.

You're argument is wearing thin.

He was potentially a bomber, they couldn't take the chance.

What if he was a bomber, and they had the chance to kill him, but didn't and it resulted in the deaths of around 20 people ??

I don't see why you are tyring to make a fuss out of this, unless you're bored...

thaifan99 · 07-23-2005, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

do you know what kratos means?

has several..greek - biblical and more

baddog · 07-23-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

He was potentially a bomber, they couldn't take the chance.

What if he was a bomber

You are absolutely correct. They should just start picking out dark skinned, turban wearing people . . . because they might be terrorists.

Scott McD · 07-23-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You are absolutely correct. They should just start picking out dark skinned, turban wearing people . . . because they might be terrorists.

*yawn*

To quote relish -

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To jump through the turnstyle takes serious effort. He wanted to get to the platform withouth being searched. What would you think if you were one of the police?

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There is a guy in a large jacket jumping the turnstyle at a time when there are suicide bombers.

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 12:24 PM

He wasnt shot because of his colour. he wasa shot because he tried to evade a police check and search point to get to the station platform while wearing a large jacket in the middle of summer.

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You are absolutely correct. They should just start picking out dark skinned, turban wearing people . . . because they might be terrorists.

LMAO.

Muslims dont wear Turbans you idiot. Thats Hindus. Fucking hell man

alexg · 07-23-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

LMAO.

Muslims dont wear Turbans you idiot. Thats Hindus. Fucking hell man

looks like a turban to me or something similar.

that's sheich hassan nassrallah - leader of the hezzbollah terrorist organisation

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

looks like a turban to me or something similar.

that's sheich hassan nassrallah - leader of the hezzbollah terrorist organisation

I couldnt give two shits what it does or doesnt look like to you. So all head wear are turbans to you?

LMAO so if an Asian has something on his head he is a hindu not a muslim?

Scott McD · 07-23-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

He wasnt shot because of his colour. he wasa shot because he tried to evade a police check and search point to get to the station platform while wearing a large jacket in the middle of summer.

Shhh, don't say that. He did NOTHING wrong, NOTHING. It was MURDER...

Well, according to some on here anyway...

alexg · 07-23-2005, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

I couldnt give two shits what it does or doesnt look like to you. So all head wear are turbans to you?

LMAO so if an Asian has something on his head he is a hindu not a muslim?

no not all headwear

but i googled to see what a turban looks like and this looks damn similar.. so why are you trying to bust anyone's balls for that?

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

no not all headwear

but i googled to see what a turban looks like and this looks damn similar.. so why are you trying to bust anyone's balls for that?

Because when people are trying to make clever comments about a difficult special services operation and implying that the special services man did it because the suspect was wearing a turban. Then maybe someone should point out his ignorance.

So why are you trying to bust peoples balls for shooting a suspected terrorist, when you come from a fucked up country who kills innocent people every day?

thaifan99 · 07-23-2005, 01:01 PM

the dead man was BRAZILIAN!

alexg · 07-23-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Why are you trying to bust peoples balls for shooting a suspected terrorist, when you come from a [i'm just a moron who doesn't know anything about israel]

because the nutbag you like to refer to as London Mayor seems to have a huge hardon on my country and is always the first to call it a terrorist state and express sympathy to the palestinian suicide bombers after incidents where supposedly palestinian civilians were mistakenly killed (because they were around a real terrorist, not because they were running from the police), and now that his city's police done something so bad that even the "israeli terrorists" never did (shoot an innocent man in the middle of the capital city) it seems like for him it's ok...

alexg · 07-23-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

because the nutbag you like to refer to as London Mayor seems to have a huge hardon on my country and is always the first to call it a terrorist state and express sympathy to the palestinian suicide bombers after incidents where supposedly palestinian civilians were mistakenly killed (because they were around a real terrorist, not because they were running from the police), and now that his city's police done something so bad that even the "israeli terrorists" never did (shoot an innocent man in the middle of the capital city) it seems like for him it's ok...

and so does your foreign minister who was always the first to condemn Israel when they killed PROVEN hammas leaders such as rantisi and yassin...

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

because the nutbag you like to refer to as London Mayor seems to have a huge hardon on my country and is always the first to call it a terrorist state and express sympathy to the palestinian suicide bombers after incidents where supposedly palestinian civilians were mistakenly killed (because they were around a real terrorist, not because they were running from the police), and now that his city's police done something so bad that even the "israeli terrorists" never did (shoot an innocent man in the middle of the capital city) it seems like for him it's ok...

OK I will spell this out for you. Ken Livington, when he speaks, only speaks for Ken Livington. I think that we have supported Israel over the last few years and maybe you shouldnt keep atacking my country over the comments of one man who does not speak for the rest of us

alexg · 07-23-2005, 01:13 PM

"After the assassination of Sheik Yassin, Britain abstained on a UN resolution criticizing Israel."

http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/1857.cfm

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

and so does your foreign minister who was always the first to condemn Israel when they killed PROVEN hammas leaders such as rantisi and yassin...

Whats that got to do with Turbins?

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 01:15 PM

Withouth the British Israel would not exist. We could have alos quite easily sided with Germany in World War II and let you all burn but we didnt.

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

"After the assassination of Sheik Yassin, Britain abstained on a UN resolution criticizing Israel."

http://www.worldpress.org/Mideast/1857.cfm

Whats that got to do with Turbins?

alexg · 07-23-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

Whats that got to do with Turbins?

nothing..
you asked why I started this thread...

the main reason was to point out the hypocrisy in this world...

thaifan99 · 07-23-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

OK I will spell this out for you. Ken Livington, when he speaks, only speaks for Ken Livington. ... maybe you shouldnt keep atacking my country over the comments of one man who does not speak for the rest of us

Very true.

This man has only 1 interest...........himself and his career.

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Withouth the British Israel would not exist. We could have alos quite easily sided with Germany in World War II and let you all burn but we didnt.

Exactly, but here we are with them throwing it back in our face

alexg · 07-23-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thaifan99

Very true.

This man has only 1 interest...........himself and his career.

well I'm glad I managed to contribute to a few people's negative feelings towards him...

If I could do that, I feel all my posts lately weren't made for nothing...

alexg · 07-23-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Withouth the British Israel would not exist. We could have alos quite easily sided with Germany in World War II and let you all burn but we didnt.

ever heard about Godwin's Law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

well I'm glad I managed to contribute to a few people's negative feelings towards him...

If I could do that, I feel all my posts lately weren't made for nothing...

infact just the opposite. Ken Livingsone was elected because his own party completely fucked up the election process. But you over the last few days have continuosly attacked a country that has supported you over the last 40 years.

Gunni · 07-23-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

and so does your foreign minister who was always the first to condemn Israel when they killed PROVEN hammas leaders such as rantisi and yassin...

They killed the guy with 5 shots, didn't shoot up the whole train or bomb it with helicopters, and taking out 2 more trains while they were at it.
What I belive is what Ken Livingstone has been critisizing is the fact that Israelian army kills a lot of people to take out one man (including women and children).

The day that England start blowing up whole appartment buildings to kill one person you can use this argument

cambaby · 07-23-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thaifan99

the dead man was BRAZILIAN!

AKA drug runner. This is your brain on drugs... well WAS his brain.

Gunni · 07-23-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

infact just the opposite. Ken Livingsone was elected because his own party completely fucked up the election process. But you over the last few days have continuosly attacked a country that has supported you over the last 40 years.

The UK actually gave Israel to the Jews, or am I mistaken?

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

ever heard about Godwin's Law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/G/Godwins-Law.html

Fantastic. Always remember who let you live.

alexg · 07-23-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunni

They killed the guy with 5 shots, didn't shoot up the whole train or bomb it with helicopters, and taking out 2 more trains while they were at it.
What I belive is what Ken Livingstone has been critisizing is the fact that Israelian army kills a lot of people to take out one man (including women and children).

The day that England start blowing up whole appartment buildings to kill one person you can use this argument

rantisi and yassin were eliminated perfectly without any civilian casualties yet the british foreign minister was quick to condemn it.

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunni

The UK actually gave Israel to the Jews, or am I mistaken?

you are 100% correct

alexg · 07-23-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunni

The UK actually gave Israel to the Jews, or am I mistaken?

something like that...

but they were illegal occupiers before that anyways right?

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

something like that...

but they were illegal occupiers before that anyways right?

So you hate the English as well as the palestinians?

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