Correct me if I'm wrong but has the british police KILLED an innocent man today?
 

well I read about this briefly and it doesn't seem like he was a suicide bomber.

that's just fucked up... since when do you shoot a guy 5 times in the middle of the street?

No - they shot a suspect :)

Shaft

they shot someone who pushed past bariers with what looks tobe a gag bomb...deserves to die

Wasent in the street in was in the tube and he failed to stop when told do so by police! If he innocent (which I doubt) tough... he should have stopped. Like I said better 1 dead than 100s. And if it is one of the fuckers then all the better.

maybe he was innocent BUT he was guilty of not stopping when asked by the police in a situation of terrorisme alert....

It's a normal thing....if he was innocent of being a suicide bomber, he was guilty of stupidity for not stopping when police ask to stop a week after bombings in the subway.... :2 cents:

that's a really fucked up situation.

maybe he doesn't understand english so he didn't stop?

i'm 90% sure he was innocent because if he wasn't they would surely say it in a clear way and it would be all over the news.

it seems they blew it and now they're just won't admit it...

oh that brings memories about some british woman who was also guilty of stupidity and died because of that but some of the people here were much more bothered about that issue than today's one :)

maybe he was deaf? :upsidedow

According to the press briefing, the guy shot was connected to the events of yesterday.

I am correcting you because you are wrong.

from cnn.com:

"The information I have available is that this shooting is directly linked to the ongoing and expanding anti-terrorist operation," said Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair.

While the death is deeply regrettable, Blair said, the man challenged police and refused to obey instructions.

A senior police official told CNN the man was being followed in connection with the investigation. The man has not been formally identified, the official said, and it is not clear if he was one of the four suspected bombers police have identified from closed circuit television images.




doesn't sound very convincing to be honest

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Way to suicide yourself .

Maybe that was a political suicide bomber

Can I borrow that magical crystal ball you are looking into?


;)

j.

You run from guys with guns telling you to stop and guess what you might get shot.

The only person I'm running from who has a gun drawn and telling me to stop is some guy trying to jack me.

And Bush is also a god and speaking the truth ;)

If you ever dealt with the press you know how fucking easy it is to manipulate it

i'm just suggesting things

you have to agree the quotes from the police and tony blair were not very convincing...

fuck it, kill more of these morons

I guess the part that kinda puts me off about this is that according to the eyewitnesses that have posted their stories - the guy tripped and fell - the police ran up to him and then shot him 5 times while he was lying on the ground? That doesnt sound like a "normal" reaction for a cop

so it's ok to shoot stupid people?

i can say something similar:

"you throw rocks at soldiers and guess what you might get shot"

:)

no idea how this example came to my mind...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...159815,00.html
turns out the police were plaincloths cops and the suspect was on the ground when they shot him

Maybe they should have offered him some tea and some cheesecake while asking him nicely to stop...
Even if he didnt understand English, if you have nothing to hide you would put your hands up and drop to the ground if policemen were yelling you at gunpoint.

Exactly...you throw rocks at armed men anything can happen.

why do you think he is innocent? when police chase you through the subway telling your to stop or they will shoot... you are already in the wrong.

:2 cents:

BTW, I'm rather trying to show the hypocrisy of some people than actually critisize the London police.

If such thing happened in Israel and it turned out the man was innocent (btw I don't recall such thing happening in Israel), Ken Livingfuck would be all over the media telling everybody how Israel are terrorists...

read my previous post to understand the point of this thread :)

True, but London has been attacked a few times in the recent days, so the police have to show that they will not fuck around.

Ummm - I think he did drop to the ground - thats when the cops - not in uniform btw - ran up and emptied 5 rounds into him while he was laying on the ground

I couldn't agree more....

BTW: Your sig rocks!

Wasnt aware of that, but still I dont change my POV, he ran and looked like a suspect, enough to get shot.

Uh, okay:

Correct me if I?m wrong, but did the British police KILL an innocent man, today?

or

Correct me if I am wrong but have the British police KILLED an innocent man today?

britain is crazy at the moment

Yeah that`s the way to respond to rocks.With bullets from machine guns.

As far as I can tell what happened today is fucked up.The guy tripped and the cops decided it would be a good idea, just to be on the safe side, to shoot him five times.
Fuck, the guy is already pinned to the ground.

BBC NEWS:
Stockwell passenger Mark Whitby told BBC News he had seen a man of Asian appearance shot five times by "plain-clothes police officers".

"One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him," he said.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

The IDF never does that.

I can only imagine what Ken Livingfuck would say if they did this once by mistake...

No.1 You dont' run from armed Police.
No.2 You don't walk around in a winter coat in the summer

No.1: sure you do, after you've done something illegal.
No.2: the 'trend' is known as "urban wear". Where you been hiding?
If a person is persecuted simply because they are weak and get cold easily, or find that to be a cool fashion, then our world is beyond fucked.

which part of PLAIN CLOTHES POLICEMEN don't you understand???????
which part of HE WAS LYING ON THE GROUND WHILE BEING SHOT FIVE TIMES don't you understand?????

alexg the sheep dont care, why even waste your time?

This is a war people. When you don't STOP when being told to, you get shot.

Stop trying to be so damn liberal and WAKE UP.

it is if they have a very real reason to believe he was another suicide bomber. whether they had we will have to see but from what i gather, the guy had been under survielance and they were following him to see who he met up with or where he went (so there's a good chance he's related to the recent attacks in some way - the security services don't put you under survielance just for being asian), unfortunatly he decided to enter the underground wearing a heavy coat on a summers day and when he was told to stop he ran. i would bet he's linked to all this and if so, good riddance. if he's not guilty of anything then it's a shame but there's not a person in europe let alone london who isn't aware of what's currently going on there at the moment. so to run from armed police in london at the moment let alone on the underground is crazy. but just because he wasn't one of the bombers doesn't mean he isn't linked in some way.

btw. i can't believe the irony of an israeli talking about 1 (only possibly) innocent person being shot when 5 year old children and aid workers are shot in israel almost daily.

I wouldn't care if I was in a country that spoke a language so remote that it would be impossible for anyone not born in that country to understand, learn or even comprehend...

Innocent of any crime or guilty as sin - when an armed cop is yelling instructions to you - you stop and raise your hands. You can always sort shit out later!

Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man appeared to be wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out".

I thought they just hit people there with those silly clubs.

Not even 12 hours has passed so it's a tad early to judge if he's innocent or not :)

What I've read and heard from eyewitnesses on TV, I'm on the cops side.

The guy didn't stop when told so.

He was running around in a big, bulky overcoat that didn't fit the current weather situation. Remember that everybody is looking for foreigners with backpacks, much better to strap the bombs to your body and cover it up with an overcoat, right?

When he fell/was tripped by the cops (I've heard both stories), he was shot with 5 rounds. He most likely has the detonator in the hand, pocket or up the arm. If they stop and ask him what he's doing, he can easily reach the detonator. Shoot to kill.

The cops are instructed to shoot to kill. The guy had done enough to justify the cops action.

so when do you think only whites, blacks and asians will be able to take the tube?

only a matter of time? i dont think it is to far fetched, this is war.

Israel is a terrorist state. They have a ghetto of 3.5 million people with no means of support, no country, no rights, no hope... Israel is no better than Nazi Germany.

I can't believe I agree with alexg. Everyone is so quick to judge and to just assume that the government is doing the right thing. Oh no, the government couldn't kill an innocent man, he must be a terrorist.

Like alex says, what if he was deaf? He deserves to die because he can't hear? What if he was mentally retarded or had a disease like alzheimer's and had no idea what was going on?

The fact is police shouldn't shoot people for not listening to them unless they KNOW they're very dangerous and/or armed. They like to use times like these, when half of the public is scared shitless, to get us used to abuses of power like this. It's pathetic to see how many people accept it.

how could ken livingstone allow such thing to happen?

i think he should retire from his post immediately...

What does the mayor have to do with this?

Oh right, he opposes Israel. blah blah blah