Correct me if I'm wrong but has the british police KILLED an innocent man today? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 05:58 AM

100 shots in the head

alexg · 07-23-2005, 05:58 AM

100 hypocrite scumbag mayors

VeriSexy · 07-23-2005, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

maybe he was deaf?

That would suck

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy

That would suck

OK lets get this cleared up, so you dont have to listen to any more bull shit

The man was under police observation because he had emerged from a house that was being watched following Thursday's attacks

He was followed by surveillance officers to Stockwell station, where his clothing and behaviour added to their suspicions

Police then warned the man, who then jumped over the turnstyle and ran on to the station platform, while the police told everyone to get down the man ran for the train.

they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

Fletch XXX · 07-23-2005, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

the big lie comes in when you realize NO FUCKING PIGS will pile onto a guy they think is wearing a bomb.

cops dont do heroic shit, they do bad things.

show me one cop that will throw himself on top of a man wearing a bomb to save someone, let alone more than one guy "bundle" on top of him.

yeah he had a bomb.

BULL SHIT

ezrydn · 07-23-2005, 06:37 AM

The London story just proves that Muslims DO drink. Didn't it say that one took 5 shots before 10AM??????

alexg · 07-23-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ezrydn

The London story just proves that Muslims DO drink. Didn't it say that one took 5 shots before 10AM??????

KingK7 · 07-23-2005, 06:55 AM

I can see why they didnt want to take any chances with this bastard. It will only take 1/10th of a second to press a detonator.

Satisfaction · 07-23-2005, 07:08 AM

yeh i dont think he was innocent :/

imageman · 07-23-2005, 07:18 AM

for doing their job, Blame the fucking c.u.n.t.s who planted the bombs in the first place blame the fuckers who caused 911.

alexg · 07-23-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Satisfaction

yeh i dont think he was innocent :/

check out cnn.com

i hate being right all the time

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 09:46 AM

The cops were part of operation kratos, designed to shoot and kill suspected suicide bombers, they got the wrong guy.

Yup it was a mistake , just like what happens in israel , usa , and every other civilized country

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by kektex
Yeah that`s the way to respond to rocks.With bullets from machine guns.

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Originally Posted by alexg

The IDF never does that.

i hope your joking..

alexg · 07-23-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

The cops were part of operation kratos, designed to shoot and kill suspected suicide bombers, they got the wrong guy.

Yup it was a mistake , just like what happens in israel , usa , and every other civilized country

congrats - you're not a hypocrite unlike many...

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 09:50 AM

Try getting on a train in London at the moment. They are searching everyone getting into the stations. He pushed past a security post and ran. In my opinion he deserved to die due to stupidity.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 09:53 AM

http://www.democracynow.org/article..../05/03/0026239

Not only do they shoot rock throwers with machine guns , but often they kill journalists filming it.

7 dead journalists in 2 years , ( and that isn't including their own journalists they have killed )

I'm not anti-semetic , i'm anti-stupidity

I have lots of jewish friends , i dont think any of them would agree with your statement..

besides this isn't about israel anyways..

alexg · 07-23-2005, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Originally Posted by kektex
Yeah that`s the way to respond to rocks.With bullets from machine guns.

i hope your joking..

shooting unarmed people with live fire? as a rule - definitely not.
there is a suspect arrest routine. goes as follows:
the soldier yells to the suspect to stop (in hebrew and in arabic)
if he doesn't stop the soldier pulls his gun in the air in a way the suspect would see it.
if he still doesn't stop, the soldier shoots in the air.
only if the suspect still doesn't stop the soldier is allowed to shoot towards the suspect's feet.

I heard first hand stories about soldiers who were imprisoned for not following this routine.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Try getting on a train in London at the moment. They are searching everyone getting into the stations. He pushed past a security post and ran. In my opinion he deserved to die due to stupidity.

"deserved" to die is a little harsh..

What if the guy was semi-retarted and deaf ..

The cops really had no choice, i dont blame them , and i dont blame the guy , its just bad place at a bad time scenario.

alexg · 07-23-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

"deserved" to die is a little harsh..

What if the guy was semi-retarted and deaf ..

The cops really had no choice, i dont blame them , and i dont blame the guy , its just bad place at a bad time scenario.

oh i take my words back...

you ARE a hypocrite like the others

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

shooting unarmed people with live fire? as a rule - definitely not.
there is a suspect arrest routine. goes as follows:
the soldier yells to the suspect to stop (in hebrew and in arabic)
if he doesn't stop the soldier pulls his gun in the air in a way the suspect would see it.
if he still doesn't stop, the soldier shoots in the air.
only if the suspect still doesn't stop the soldier is allowed to shoot towards the suspect's feet.

I heard first hand stories about soldiers who were imprisoned for not following this routine.

Did you happen to read the article above.. they shot an UNARMED journalist wearing a BRIGHT ORANGE VEST. ( while shooting rock throwers )

You can quote till the suns come home , but i have seen them shooting rock throwers with my very own eyes. I physically watched them shoot an unarmed child in the head with a machine gun, the child was holding a small rock sling , nothing else.

I'm sure most of the time , the idf actually feels threatned and sometimes its a mistake , but to say "the idf doesn't shoot rock throwers with machine guns " is plain wrong , there is ZERO validity in tht statement.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

oh i take my words back...

you ARE a hypocrite like the others

i knew that was coming...

mind pointing out the hypocracy in what said ?

cambaby · 07-23-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

You can quote till the suns come home , but i have seen them shooting rock throwers with my very own eyes. I physically watched them shoot an unarmed child in the head with a machine gun, the child was holding a small rock sling , nothing else.

Sure ya have.
How is a rock thrower weilding child not armed?

alexg · 07-23-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Did you happen to read the article above.. they shot an UNARMED journalist wearing a BRIGHT ORANGE VEST. ( while shooting rock throwers )

You can quote till the suns come home , but i have seen them shooting rock throwers with my very own eyes. I physically watched them shoot an unarmed child in the head with a machine gun, the child was holding a small rock sling , nothing else.

I'm sure most of the time , the idf actually feels threatned and sometimes its a mistake , but to say "the idf doesn't shoot rock throwers with machine guns " is plain wrong , there is ZERO validity in tht statement.

a week ago an Israeli soldier died after being hit with a stone and fall of a terrace... but you never link to these articles...

and why when it's an IDF mistake you do blame the IDF, but when it's a London Police mistake you say and I quote "I don't blame them"?

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

oh i take my words back...

you ARE a hypocrite like the others

You cant take both sides of the fence my friend..

The cops follow orders , just like IDF. The cops chasing him dont know anything but that he is a suspected terrorist in a bulky jacket, ignoring orders trying to board a subway.

It was a tragic mistake, BUT given the same circumstances i cant really say they should have done things differently..

cachondo · 07-23-2005, 10:07 AM

Scotland Yard confirm : was an error http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/homepage/int...uk/4711021.stm

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

"deserved" to die is a little harsh..

What if the guy was semi-retarted and deaf ..

The cops really had no choice, i dont blame them , and i dont blame the guy , its just bad place at a bad time scenario.

I dont think it is harsh. Everyone knows what is happening in London at the moment. Even if he was semi-retarded and deaf he would still realise that we are being hit by bombers.

I get ont he train everyday and I dont get shot, just like millions of others. When there are armed police at the entrances to most London stations and they say stop you dont run.

I would rather that guy dies and I know for definite that my train doesnt have a bomb on it. I dont have the time for deaf retards running past people check points and the police not shooting them. He could have had the bomb strapped to him and been running to the platform for maximum death toll.

Fuck him.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

a week ago an Israeli soldier died after being hit with a stone and fall of a terrace... but you never link to these articles...

and why when it's an IDF mistake you do blame the IDF, but when it's a London Police mistake you say and I quote "I don't blame them"?

Because you never said " the idf has never been hit with a stone"

I never blamed the idf at all , your taking things a little far . In most of the IDF cases i DONT think its their fault in any way.

I dont blame the individual officers , just as much as i dont blame idf when they mistakenly kill civilians..

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Sure ya have.
How is a rock thrower weilding child not armed?

You would kill a smalll child with a machine gun , because he is throwing rocks at you ? come on now get real...

cambaby · 07-23-2005, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

You would kill a smalll child with a machine gun , because he is throwing rocks at you ? come on now get real...

cambaby · 07-23-2005, 10:41 AM

cambaby · 07-23-2005, 10:43 AM

Oh and trust me these kids want to kill you too Smokey.

alexg · 07-23-2005, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

I never blamed the idf at all , your taking things a little far . In most of the IDF cases i DONT think its their fault in any way.

I dont blame the individual officers , just as much as i dont blame idf when they mistakenly kill civilians..

well ok then

i must have got the wrong impression...

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Oh and trust me these kids want to kill you too Smokey.

when i was 7 i hated and loved whatever my parents did.

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Originally Posted by cambaby

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

You would kill a smalll child with a machine gun , because he is throwing rocks at you ? come on now get real...

alexg · 07-23-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i knew that was coming...

mind pointing out the hypocracy in what said ?

The fact that you don't blame the British cops, but I was under the impression that you do blame Israeli soldiers in similar cases (even less serious cases because in this case we're talking the middle of London, not a militarized area)...

that would be hypocrite.

but since you said in your last post that you never blamed the IDF, then I was probably under the wrong impression, in which case I take my words back, again.

Theo · 07-23-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

I dont think it is harsh. Everyone knows what is happening in London at the moment. Even if he was semi-retarded and deaf he would still realise that we are being hit by bombers.

I get ont he train everyday and I dont get shot, just like millions of others. When there are armed police at the entrances to most London stations and they say stop you dont run.

I would rather that guy dies and I know for definite that my train doesnt have a bomb on it. I dont have the time for deaf retards running past people check points and the police not shooting them. He could have had the bomb strapped to him and been running to the platform for maximum death toll.

Fuck him.

Everybody looks his side

I hope London will remain #1 target so i'll be safer

Fuck you

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

well ok then

i must have got the wrong impression...

well dont go soft on me yet , while in most cases i DONT think its the individual idf soldiers at fault, i DO think they shouldn't be there to start with.

The officers in operation kratos were trained to do exactly what they did, Shoot an unarmed , but possibly suicidal bomber. Thats what they thought they had.. They were obviously not trained well enough, or its the tragic "accident" that happened on their first ever response.

The same way IDF is trained to shoot "armed" terrorists who may be taking cover behind rock throwing kids, sometimes mistakes happen , sometimes its wrong , and sometimes they arent trained properly or are disobeying orders.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

I dont think it is harsh. Everyone knows what is happening in London at the moment. Even if he was semi-retarded and deaf he would still realise that we are being hit by bombers.

I get ont he train everyday and I dont get shot, just like millions of others. When there are armed police at the entrances to most London stations and they say stop you dont run.

I would rather that guy dies and I know for definite that my train doesnt have a bomb on it. I dont have the time for deaf retards running past people check points and the police not shooting them. He could have had the bomb strapped to him and been running to the platform for maximum death toll.

Fuck him.

You have a point there. Even in the most unlikely event he was deaf and brain damaged and didn't understand what was going on, he should have been aware or his "guardian" should have made him aware he cant freak out in public right now..

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KingK7

I can see why they didnt want to take any chances with this bastard. It will only take 1/10th of a second to press a detonator.

Like fletch said, you are nuts if you think 5 cops jumped on a guy they thought was a loaded up suicide bomber. That is what snipers are for.

thaifan99 · 07-23-2005, 11:02 AM

How many here run from cops when they are stopped?

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Try getting on a train in London at the moment. They are searching everyone getting into the stations. He pushed past a security post and ran. In my opinion he deserved to die due to stupidity.

Using that logic, 75% of GFY deserves to die.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Like fletch said, you are nuts if you think 5 cops jumped on a guy they thought was a loaded up suicide bomber. That is what snipers are for.

why did they jump him then ?

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

You have a point there. Even in the most unlikely event he was deaf and brain damaged and didn't understand what was going on, he should have been aware or his "guardian" should have made him aware he cant freak out in public right now..

Thing is he didnt have a guardian. The turnstyles that he vaulted arent small. You dont vault those things unless you have a serious reason. It would be hard to do it and get away with it before the new safety messures. There are alot of police by every station entrance.

He was doing something wrong. Probably not a terrorist but he ran for some reason infront of armed police. It is like standing in the middle of the motorway and wondering why you were run over.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Using that logic, 75% of GFY deserves to die.

dont give anyone any ideas...

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

I physically watched them shoot an unarmed child in the head with a machine gun, the child was holding a small rock sling , nothing else.

So was he armed or not? He can't be both. Sounds armed to me.

If you don't think someone can do great bodily harm with a rock, much less using a sling to project it you must have led a very sheltered childhood.

Just like you don't bring a knife to a gunfight (unless you are HA), you don't bring rocks to a gunfight.

Like Relish said, he deserved to die for stupidity.

Johny Traffic · 07-23-2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Thing is he didnt have a guardian. The turnstyles that he vaulted arent small. You dont vault those things unless you have a serious reason. It would be hard to do it and get away with it before the new safety messures. There are alot of police by every station entrance.

He was doing something wrong. Probably not a terrorist but he ran for some reason infront of armed police. It is like standing in the middle of the motorway and wondering why you were run over.

exactly! Also add to that. That they had foillowed him all the way from a terrorist house that the was watching. When will you lot understand this was not a random shooting. It was a special services opperation

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Baddog the Police officers all showed their badges, they all had caps on saying Police. What more do you fucking need?

How do you show your badge to someone running away?

alexg · 07-23-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

well dont go soft on me yet , while in most cases i DONT think its the individual idf soldiers at fault, i DO think they shouldn't be there to start with.

The officers in operation kratos were trained to do exactly what they did, Shoot an unarmed , but possibly suicidal bomber. Thats what they thought they had.. They were obviously not trained well enough, or its the tragic "accident" that happened on their first ever response.

The same way IDF is trained to shoot "armed" terrorists who may be taking cover behind rock throwing kids, sometimes mistakes happen , sometimes its wrong , and sometimes they arent trained properly or are disobeying orders.

let's see what will happen after the "pullout plan". soldiers (or civilians) won't be there anymore. will you admit you were wrong if they continue shooting qasam missiles, this time deeper into israel?

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic

OK lets get this cleared up, so you dont have to listen to any more bull shit

they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him.

Translation: they murdered him

SmokeyTheBear · 07-23-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So was he armed or not? He can't be both. Sounds armed to me.

If you don't think someone can do great bodily harm with a rock, much less using a sling to project it you must have led a very sheltered childhood.

Just like you don't bring a knife to a gunfight (unless you are HA), you don't bring rocks to a gunfight.

Like Relish said, he deserved to die for stupidity.

you could use a shirt as a sling or a shoelace , so technically you are armed now and by the same reasoning should be shot for stupidity if you wander into the wrong area

but seriously, dont you ever remember being a kid ? didnt you throw rocks at things ? people ? did you deserve to die for stupidity ? ( mind you , you weren't throwing rocks at people with guns

)

If a group of kids was throwing rocks at me , i would propably move my tank to a different location. Seriously , i dont understand people's willingness to kill people.

Yes he was armed, he had a sling made from a 1 inch piece of leather attached to a shoelace. YES its capable of severe injury, NO do i think in any way even if there was 10,000 kids with slings and rocks would i shoot any of them if i had an chance to leave..

baddog · 07-23-2005, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

The officers in operation kratos were trained to do exactly what they did, Shoot an unarmed , but possibly suicidal bomber.

They are trained to shoot people that are unarmed but possibly suicidal?

It is good work if you can get it I guess

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	The cops were part of operation kratos, designed to shoot and kill suspected suicide bombers, they got the wrong guy. Yup it was a mistake , just like what happens in israel , usa , and every other civilized country __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	I can see why they didnt want to take any chances with this bastard. It will only take 1/10th of a second to press a detonator.

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	http://www.democracynow.org/article..../05/03/0026239 Not only do they shoot rock throwers with machine guns , but often they kill journalists filming it. 7 dead journalists in 2 years , ( and that isn't including their own journalists they have killed ) I'm not anti-semetic , i'm anti-stupidity I have lots of jewish friends , i dont think any of them would agree with your statement.. besides this isn't about israel anyways.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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