Pipecrew, are you paying the $650,000 FTC fine you guys got hit with? - GoFuckYourself.com

BradShaw · 07-20-2005, 09:13 AM

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/07/alrsweep.htm

Are you paying it, or is that the other guy?

"BangBros.com Inc., based in Florida, will pay $650,000 in civil penalties;"

Fletch XXX · 07-20-2005, 09:14 AM

you pay taxes?

Triple 6 · 07-20-2005, 09:14 AM

tom foolery

riddler · 07-20-2005, 09:14 AM

ouch thats harsh fines.

SouthernGirl · 07-20-2005, 09:15 AM

didnt others get hit as well

PureCash
HawgsCash
Bangbros

jact · 07-20-2005, 09:16 AM

Do I sense a bit of jealousy because they can afford to obsorb those fines? Feels like penis envy to me...

WiredGuy · 07-20-2005, 09:16 AM

Wow, I just noticed this part of the article:

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TJ Web Productions, LLC, a Nevada company; Cyberheat, Inc., an Arizona Corporation; and Impulse Media, a Washington corporation

Isn't that Timbo's company, TopBucks and Soulcash respectively?
WG

BradShaw · 07-20-2005, 09:17 AM

I agree, it is the price of doing biz. But I also heard this is just the first round and there is much more to come.

robfantasy · 07-20-2005, 09:18 AM

what the fuck is going on

XxXotic · 07-20-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Wow, I just noticed this part of the article:

Isn't that Timbo's company, TopBucks and Soulcash respectively?
WG

impulse is SC yeah, cyberheat is topbucks but dunno for sure who the other is. But definitely 2/3

I see MD Media was implicated too

chadglni · 07-20-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Wow, I just noticed this part of the article:

Isn't that Timbo's company, TopBucks and Soulcash respectively?
WG

The part that would bother me is that you can't have further violations. So if an affiliate spams again watch out!

Fletch XXX · 07-20-2005, 09:19 AM

yes, Impulse Mesia is SOulcash

llporter · 07-20-2005, 09:19 AM

that sucks guys

OldSchoolJim · 07-20-2005, 09:20 AM

Let the witch hunts begin!

Rinaldo · 07-20-2005, 09:20 AM

That's 3 house payments

SouthernGirl · 07-20-2005, 09:21 AM

i think we should all band together to sue junk snail mailers

BVF · 07-20-2005, 09:22 AM

I think MD Media is pimproll.

WiredGuy · 07-20-2005, 09:23 AM

So, I wonder which sponsors are taking mail in light of the settlements announced herein and the new list of defendents the FTC named...
WG

p1mpdogg · 07-20-2005, 09:23 AM

pipecrew is a sales rep.... he couldnt pay a bar tab.

p1mpdogg · 07-20-2005, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

So, I wonder which sponsors are taking mail in light of the settlements announced herein and the new list of defendents the FTC named...
WG

took down all of our bp hosting last week.

fuck that shit

KRL · 07-20-2005, 09:23 AM

Holy shit. $650K.

Ouch.

BradShaw · 07-20-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

pipecrew is a sales rep.... he couldnt pay a bar tab.

My bad...

crockett · 07-20-2005, 09:25 AM

What gets me is it's not the program that is doing the spamming, so assuming they killed all affiliates that spam. What's to stop the competition from getting some spammers to send out of bunch of spam promoting those programs to put them out of biz.

simple simon · 07-20-2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

What gets me is it's not the program that is doing the spamming,

Or so you think its not

Platinum Dave · 07-20-2005, 09:30 AM

Brad your such a shit disturber!

crockett · 07-20-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

Or so you think its not

lol yea this is true..

hova · 07-20-2005, 09:31 AM

damn, that's a serious fine! Looks like the witch hunt has begun

Platinum Dave · 07-20-2005, 09:31 AM

Also Brad why are you singling out one company?

PR_Dave · 07-20-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

I think MD Media is pimproll.

Yes and we delt with it and seriously cleaned house.

PimpRoll is an official "no mail allowed" program.

Back to business.

Weppel · 07-20-2005, 09:32 AM

Pimproll (MD Media) has to pay almost $240k, that has to hurt..

Phoenix · 07-20-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Yes and we delt with it and seriously cleaned house.

PimpRoll is an official "no mail allowed" program.

Back to business.

good stuff man

Weppel · 07-20-2005, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Yes and we delt with it and seriously cleaned house.

PimpRoll is an official "no mail allowed" program.

Back to business.

Good, a fine like that should be taken seriously, no matter how big you are.

dropped9 · 07-20-2005, 09:33 AM

That's a lot of folks we all know right there....

Drake · 07-20-2005, 09:34 AM

That's a lot of coin

TheDoc · 07-20-2005, 09:35 AM

This is pretty deep shit..

From what I understand not all the companies listed spam and they do close webmaster accounts that don?t send compliant emails. Notice some settled while others didn?t, if you didn?t violate the law then no reason to settle.

And?.. THIS ISN?T the cost of doing business, this is the cost of breaking the law.

PR_Dave · 07-20-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Weppel

Good, a fine like that should be taken seriously, no matter how big you are.

It was taken very seriously and we got a lot of flack for no longer accepting mail months ago.

These days it is just easier not to accept mail.

Fletch XXX · 07-20-2005, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weppel

Pimproll (MD Media) has to pay almost $240k, that has to hurt..

with the amount of content they have in their backend, there should be no need to spam.

im doing some work for them right now and i can assure you guys once a member gets inside he will be pleased.

http://www.pimproll.com

sign up

Peaches · 07-20-2005, 09:37 AM

I would suspect the fines are a small percentage (10%ish) of what was made.

SouthernGirl · 07-20-2005, 09:38 AM

i hope they havent spent all their money along the way

Phoenix · 07-20-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I would suspect the fines are a small percentage (10%ish) of what was made.

i have heard 33% but no oneis goig to admit anything

chadglni · 07-20-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches

I would suspect the fines are a small percentage (10%ish) of what was made.

I'd guess less than that. But the ones that settled can easily be fucked by a rogue affiliate spamming them for fun. Part of the agreement was no more spams.

Pipecrew · 07-20-2005, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

pipecrew is a sales rep.... he couldnt pay a bar tab.

haha news to me!

Pipecrew · 07-20-2005, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

It was taken very seriously and we got a lot of flack for no longer accepting mail months ago.

These days it is just easier not to accept mail.

Same Here, we havent and will not ever accept mail.

I think our email policy is pretty clear.

http://www.bangbrosonline.com/email.htm

p1mpdogg · 07-20-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Same Here, we havent and will not ever accept mail.

I think our email policy is pretty clear.

http://www.bangbrosonline.com/email.htm

how many affiliate programs say that in their tos? i think every single one does.

moron. who are you fooling.

Peaches · 07-20-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

i have heard 33% but no oneis goig to admit anything

Even at that you're still making a nice profit

WiredGuy · 07-20-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Even at that you're still making a nice profit

The no more spam clause I'm sure makes it hard to continue doing this on an on-going basis

WG

Manowar · 07-20-2005, 09:49 AM

Pure Marketing Solutions, LLC, a Florida company, and Internet Matrix Technology, a corporation based in Louisiana, will together pay $50,000.

Wasn't PMS - purecash?

I thought they closed up

TheDoc · 07-20-2005, 09:50 AM

I'm just courious.. But why would you settle if you didn't break the law in the first place? TOS or not.. I know for a fact I have recieved spam from some of these companies in the last month. Looking to see if I can dig it up again..

Tom_PM · 07-20-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I'm just courious.. But why would you settle if you didn't break the law in the first place? TOS or not.. I know for a fact I have recieved spam from some of these companies in the last month. Looking to see if I can dig it up again..

If you have received anything from an affiliate of ours, do hit me up on ICQ so they can be terminated.

ps: that includes someone who *IS* in compliance, as we accept *NO* email traffic. Period.

WiredGuy · 07-20-2005, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I'm just courious.. But why would you settle if you didn't break the law in the first place? TOS or not.. I know for a fact I have recieved spam from some of these companies in the last month. Looking to see if I can dig it up again..

The cost of settling is far less than the cost of defending yourself against the FTC. If you're not making that much money from mail, it may be a better choice.
WG

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	This is pretty deep shit.. From what I understand not all the companies listed spam and they do close webmaster accounts that don?t send compliant emails. Notice some settled while others didn?t, if you didn?t violate the law then no reason to settle. And?.. THIS ISN?T the cost of doing business, this is the cost of breaking the law. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I'm just courious.. But why would you settle if you didn't break the law in the first place? TOS or not.. I know for a fact I have recieved spam from some of these companies in the last month. Looking to see if I can dig it up again.. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation