LA police kill baby girl - GoFuckYourself.com

cambaby · 07-13-2005, 10:35 PM

Can you believe this shit?! Oh my god what cruelty has American police come to?! The horror and despair!
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The 19-month-old toddler who died during a gunfire exchange between police and her father was killed by a single police bullet to the head, the Los Angeles County coroner said Wednesday.

The report said it came from a Los Angeles Police Department officer's rifle.

The girl's father, Jose Raul Pena, died as a result of multiple gunshot wounds, the coroner said.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/13/tod...ing/index.html

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eamedia · 07-13-2005, 10:36 PM

somebodys resigning...

wdsguy · 07-13-2005, 10:38 PM

Fucking idiots, the suspect was holding the baby girl as a HUMAN SHIELD, he also tried to kill her HIMSELF. He fired over 40 rounds at the police, what were they suppose to do just take it??? Now all the fucking minorities are all out in arms saying this was racially motivated blah blah blah. fuckers need something better to do.

KRL · 07-13-2005, 10:39 PM

From what I heard the total loser using his daughter as a human shield started shooting directly at the officers first and they think he killed his daughter not the police.

Love Sex · 07-13-2005, 10:39 PM

did you even read the article
"Pena, 34, was holding his daughter Suzy when he opened fire on police last Sunday, unleashing 40 shots in three separate exchanges. He and his daughter died in a hail of gunfire after he confronted police in an alley behind his apartment."

"After 4 p.m., shortly after officers arrived, Pena began shooting, using the toddler as a shield, Bratton said."

websiex · 07-13-2005, 10:40 PM

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Pena, 34, was holding his daughter Suzy when he opened fire on police last Sunday,

The police aren't at fault, the father is. Police have to protect themselves, I'm sure you would do the same if someone was shooting at you. Just a tradegy due to the fathers stupidness.

cambaby · 07-13-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy

Fucking idiots, the suspect was holding the baby girl as a HUMAN SHIELD, he also tried to kill her HIMSELF. He fired over 40 rounds at the police, what were they suppose to do just take it??? Now all the fucking minorities are all out in arms saying this was racially motivated blah blah blah. fuckers need something better to do.

Yes most of the liberals on this board will tell you that the police did not need to shoot that many shots and could have used non-lethal force etc etc oh and add a dozen fucking roses.

wdsguy · 07-13-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Love Sex

did you even read the article
"Pena, 34, was holding his daughter Suzy when he opened fire on police last Sunday, unleashing 40 shots in three separate exchanges. He and his daughter died in a hail of gunfire after he confronted police in an alley behind his apartment."

"After 4 p.m., shortly after officers arrived, Pena began shooting, using the toddler as a shield, Bratton said."

Idiotic retards can't read, all they can do is bitch until 1 day when they actually need the police.

cambaby · 07-13-2005, 10:40 PM

By the way this is troll bait you silly fools Im trying to find a democrat to bash tonight

$$$ · 07-13-2005, 10:45 PM

Fuck that. "A total of 11 officers fired nearly 90 shots at Pena." ?

I'm no fucking liberal, but I know for a fact that a roof top sniper could have shot the guy in the head with one shot. There were 3 different shootouts in which the gunman shot 40+ shots at police. They could have had a sniper ready to take him out in minutes. Fuck the LAPD. I'm right and anyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong. This thread can now be closed by admins.

4Pics · 07-13-2005, 10:48 PM

like the police have a sniper waiting for shootouts... jeeez

baddog · 07-13-2005, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KRL

From what I heard the total loser using his daughter as a human shield started shooting directly at the officers first and they think he killed his daughter not the police.

The autopsy determined it was a shot from a cop that killed her, but fuck anyone that blames the cops for this.

The guy told his wife that when he dies his daughter was going down with him. He was a fucking pussy that was shooting at people, hit a cop, and was using her as a shield.

It isn't like they were aiming at the kid, and those of you that think SWAT is a one shot, one kill deal watch too much TV.

baddog · 07-13-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by $$$

Fuck that. "A total of 11 officers fired nearly 90 shots at Pena." ?

I'm no fucking liberal, but I know for a fact that a roof top sniper could have shot the guy in the head with one shot. There were 3 different shootouts in which the gunman shot 40+ shots at police. They could have had a sniper ready to take him out in minutes. Fuck the LAPD. I'm right and anyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong. This thread can now be closed by admins.

you are a fucking idiot, and watch too much tv

$$$ · 07-13-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Pics

like the police have a sniper waiting for shootouts... jeeez

I'm sure LAPD has sniper riffles. They could have gone about this without murdering the 1 year old girl. Bottom line. End of discussion.

wdsguy · 07-13-2005, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by $$$

Fuck that. "A total of 11 officers fired nearly 90 shots at Pena." ?

I'm no fucking liberal, but I know for a fact that a roof top sniper could have shot the guy in the head with one shot. There were 3 different shootouts in which the gunman shot 40+ shots at police. They could have had a sniper ready to take him out in minutes. Fuck the LAPD. I'm right and anyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong. This thread can now be closed by admins.

No point argueing with a retard.

cambaby · 07-13-2005, 10:54 PM

Where are all the minorities tonight? Early bedtime to get to the food stamp appointment in the morning?

$$$ · 07-13-2005, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

you are a fucking idiot, and watch too much tv

Fuck you troll. I don't give a fuck about your forum reputation or post count. I'll shit all over your intellect on my worst day.

reynold · 07-13-2005, 10:57 PM

That stupid cop needs more seminar. Or giver him water guns instead.

baddog · 07-13-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by $$$

I'm sure LAPD has sniper riffles. They could have gone about this without murdering the 1 year old girl. Bottom line. End of discussion.

Just an FYI, I get people all the time asking me for programmers. You are scratched off the list as you are too stupid for me to even consider sending any business to.

baddog · 07-13-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by reynold

That stupid cop needs more seminar. Or giver him water guns instead.

Don't be a fucking tool

webkoj · 07-13-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by $$$

I'm sure LAPD has sniper riffles. They could have gone about this without murdering the 1 year old girl. Bottom line. End of discussion.

I guess they should have asked him to stop shooting while they got the sniper riffle in position. "hey can you stop shooting us for a minute. our sniper is 10 minutes away from being in position"

$$$ · 07-13-2005, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Just an FYI, I get people all the time asking me for programmers. You are scratched off the list as you are too stupid for me to even consider sending any business to.

I don't give a shit you idiot.

$$$ · 07-13-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by webkoj

I guess they should have asked him to stop shooting while they got the sniper riffle in position. "hey can you stop shooting us for a minute. our sniper is 10 minutes away from being in position"

they could have honestly taken a gun with a scope and killed him with 1 headshot. not 90 miss guided bullets that ended up taking the life of an innocent girl. i fail to realize how you don't agree with me or understand where i'm coming from.

wdsguy · 07-13-2005, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by $$$

they could have honestly taken a gun with a scope and killed him with 1 headshot. not 90 miss guided bullets that ended up taking the life of an innocent girl. i fail to realize how you don't agree with me or understand where i'm coming from.

You are assuming that when this happened, that they had time to get a sniper in place, find a good spot and had a clean shot at him. Have you been playing too much counter strike?

$$$ · 07-13-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy

You are assuming that when this happened, that they had time to get a sniper in place, find a good spot and had a clean shot at him. Have you been playing too much counter strike?

Yeah man, I play CS. I also write in livejournals & listen to Linkin Park. Leave me alone and stop oppressing my inner demons.

Seriously though, I'm sure at least one of the 11 cops had a shotgun with a scope on it. Relax with the idiocy.

cambaby · 07-13-2005, 11:15 PM

Headshot!

nofx · 07-13-2005, 11:22 PM

I and still fail to see why people view law enforcement as heros

GweedZilla · 07-13-2005, 11:24 PM

Aimbot!

NTSS · 07-13-2005, 11:24 PM

Another LAPD fuck up...what else is new?

baddog · 07-13-2005, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $$$

they could have honestly taken a gun with a scope and killed him with 1 headshot. not 90 miss guided bullets that ended up taking the life of an innocent girl. i fail to realize how you don't agree with me or understand where i'm coming from.

Maybe next time we will luck out and it will be in your trailer park, and you will get hit in the crossfire

baddog · 07-13-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by $$$

Yeah man, I play CS. I also write in livejournals & listen to Linkin Park. Leave me alone and stop oppressing my inner demons.

Seriously though, I'm sure at least one of the 11 cops had a shotgun with a scope on it. Relax with the idiocy.

Yeah, shotguns are great sniper rifles

nofx · 07-13-2005, 11:32 PM

this is nothing new

dont be so shocked

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SAN ANTONIO ? San Antonio police arrested one of their own Tuesday for allegedly sexually assaulting another man.

Officials made the announcement Tuesday afternoon regarding the officer who has been on administrative duty for about a month.

Officer Dean Gutierrez was taken into custody Tuesday for allegedly sexually assaulting a 21-year-old man on June 10. The alleged assault involved a transsexual by the name of Starlight.

Investigators allege Starlight was picked up by the bus stop near Laredo and Zarzamora by Gutierrez, who was off duty at the time and said he needed to check for warrants.

Investigators said that was just a pretense and said Gutierrez then sexually assaulted Starlight.

San Antonio Police Chief Albert Ortiz said tests confirmed that bodily fluids found in the patrol car and on the victim belong to Gutierrez.

?The citizens of this community deserve to trust every police officer on the street,? Ortiz said. ?When something like this happens, of course, that destroys a certain amount of that trust. Hopefully, by handling this case expeditiously ? sends a message to the community that trusting San Antonio police officers is worthwhile. And any other officer who finds himself outside the law, can expect that we will treat their case as expeditiously and as quickly as possible.?

Gutierrez is in custody and faces a maximum sentence of life in prison if convicted in a court trial.

http://killpolice.com/blog/index.php?p=48

bdld · 07-13-2005, 11:42 PM

the police did everything right, this guy was drunk and on crack, holding his daughter while shooting at the cops

cambaby · 07-13-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nofx

this is nothing new
dont be so shocked
http://killpolice.com/blog/index.php?p=48

Well hell whats wrong with getting a little tranny ass? I mean come on nofx even you appreciate a good cock in the old ass sometimes dont ya?

naugthygUrL · 07-13-2005, 11:46 PM

that stupid cop should be punished

baddog · 07-13-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by naugthygUrL

that stupid cop should be punished

and your pussy should be sewn up so you can't breed

GweedZilla · 07-13-2005, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

and your pussy should be sewn up so you can't breed

WOW .. lol

nofx · 07-14-2005, 12:06 AM

that stupid baby is better of dead anyways

she would have grown up to be a crackwhore and live off of welfare

SmokeyTheBear · 07-14-2005, 12:06 AM

The cops were idiots the father was an adiot , the mother was an idiot , they all were idiots..

Cops are supposed to give their own life to protect others , not kill people to protect themselves..

My theory is in cases where something seems drastic is , Was there a way to avoid it.? In this case there wasnt much that could have been done.. Somone mentioned liberals whining about beanbag guns etc, but it isn't such a bad idea.. certainly it doesnt take 90 shots to kill 1 man.

Ogix · 07-14-2005, 12:08 AM

fucking police!fuck police!fuck police!fuck cops!fuck police and fuck all of them!fuck police!fuck them!fuck them all!

nofx · 07-14-2005, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

Well hell whats wrong with getting a little tranny ass? I mean come on nofx even you appreciate a good cock in the old ass sometimes dont ya?

what kind of games are you trying to play with this thread cock snuggles ?

Vagisil · 07-14-2005, 12:18 AM

I think it's funny that anyone could even remotely fault these officers... the motherfucker SHOT a cop in the shoulder (could have EASILY been his head or heart), he was still shooting at police and they shot at him, a MOVING, erratic target. 1 cop wasn't PERFECT in his aim, the poor little girl died.

As tragic as it is, COPS are NOT perfect. They tried their best. Sometimes hostages die. It's a fact. It happens. It appauls me that the family and some of you idiots can say the police had any fault in this.

I would venture to say that even if the GUY did not SHOOT A COP, just shot AT COPS, they would be EQUALLY as RIGHT to shoot how and when they did.

nofx · 07-14-2005, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vagisil

I think it's funny that anyone could even remotely fault these officers... the motherfucker SHOT a cop in the shoulder (could have EASILY been his head or heart), he was still shooting at police and they shot at him, a MOVING, erratic target. 1 cop wasn't PERFECT in his aim, the poor little girl died.

As tragic as it is, COPS are NOT perfect. They tried their best. Sometimes hostages die. It's a fact. It happens. It appauls me that the family and some of you idiots can say the police had any fault in this.

I would venture to say that even if the GUY did not SHOOT A COP, just shot AT COPS, they would be EQUALLY as RIGHT to shoot how and when they did.

oh i'm sure that just not why they have trained SWAT snipers available ?

they arent supposed to be used in situations like this, nah, not at all.

websiex · 07-14-2005, 01:08 AM

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oh i'm sure that just not why they have trained SWAT snipers available ?

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Whew, you think these police officers wanted to kill the little girl? I think you're living in the twilight zone. No one wants to kill a child; what the police officers did was the only option on the table. Lets look at it in reality here for a second and not TV land. There is a nutcase running at you with a gun, he has already shot one police officer, and he is still firing shots.

Now, what do you do? Do you wait for a police sniper to come or do you shoot him? Well, since you think The Shield is real, you would probably wait around for a sniper and not shoot while this guy lays waste to every cop there.

You have no logic on this event, and simply you can't defend your statements. The police had no other options, so I don't even know why you're trying to defend your statements.

Whew, some people are just out of it I guess.

baddog · 07-14-2005, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nofx

oh i'm sure that just not why they have trained SWAT snipers available ?

they arent supposed to be used in situations like this, nah, not at all.

put down the pipe and step away from the keyboard.

Did you even read the article?

Sunday's incident was only the second time in the 38-year history of the SWAT team that a hostage died during a standoff involving the unit, Bratton said. In the last incident, in the 1970s, the victim was killed by the hostage-taker, he said.

Pretty impressive record. Idiot

Manowar · 07-14-2005, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GweedZilla

Aimbot!

je_rome · 07-14-2005, 01:48 AM

tsk. tsk. sometimes i don't want to read news anymore. because of such accidents. another innocent life lost.

chodadog · 07-14-2005, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Pics

like the police have a sniper waiting for shootouts... jeeez

I don't think the cops acted in the best way in this situation. The death of that girl surely could have been avoided. This was not a some shootout that lasted 5 minutes. Cops arrived at the scene shortly before 4 pm and the article on CNN says they were killed at about 6.30 pm.

Now, i'm no police expert, but i'm am pretty sure the LAPD could muster up a police sniper within 2.5 hours. What do you think? Hell, the girl might have died anyways even with a sniper, but in a situation like this, every precaution should be taken to prevent the loss of an innocent life.

It's not like shots were constantly being fired for that 2.5 hour period. Surely they had enough time during the phone call to put a sniper into a reasonable position to take this guy out.

Beyond that... Beanbag rounds, tranquilizers.. Fuck, anything is better than 11 cops firing 90 rounds with a toddler in the line of fire.

I don't see how anyone can think that the LAPD handled this situation well.

solonline · 07-14-2005, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nofx

that stupid baby is better of dead anyways

she would have grown up to be a crackwhore and live off of welfare

You think this is funny ? You think it makes people wanna click your sig -
you pile of fucking shite!

Matt 26z · 07-14-2005, 02:17 AM

I have NEVER heard a story like this before were the cops kill a hostage in an attempt to take down the criminal.

They should have backed off and waited for a sharpshooter to arrive.

How would you like to be taken hostage in LA now, knowing that at any moment they could unload gunfire on YOU just to kill your captor?

07-13-2005, 10:35 PM	#1
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	LA police kill baby girl Can you believe this shit?! Oh my god what cruelty has American police come to?! The horror and despair! ------------------------------------------------------------ The 19-month-old toddler who died during a gunfire exchange between police and her father was killed by a single police bullet to the head, the Los Angeles County coroner said Wednesday. The report said it came from a Los Angeles Police Department officer's rifle. The girl's father, Jose Raul Pena, died as a result of multiple gunshot wounds, the coroner said. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/13/tod...ing/index.html ----------------------------- With that I would like to let you know that nofx reminds you it is your duty to http://www.killpolice.com

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07-13-2005, 10:39 PM	#4
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07-13-2005, 10:45 PM	#10
$$$ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 894	Fuck that. "A total of 11 officers fired nearly 90 shots at Pena." ? I'm no fucking liberal, but I know for a fact that a roof top sniper could have shot the guy in the head with one shot. There were 3 different shootouts in which the gunman shot 40+ shots at police. They could have had a sniper ready to take him out in minutes. Fuck the LAPD. I'm right and anyone who doesn't agree with me is wrong. This thread can now be closed by admins. __________________ http://www.webcamcash.com/?wrefid=C006535 - $70.00 per signup. Cash in on this 376 242 3 $35.00 $70.00 $210.00 AVERAGE $0.87 / unique

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nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	I and still fail to see why people view law enforcement as heros __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

07-13-2005, 10:38 PM	#3
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	Fucking idiots, the suspect was holding the baby girl as a HUMAN SHIELD, he also tried to kill her HIMSELF. He fired over 40 rounds at the police, what were they suppose to do just take it??? Now all the fucking minorities are all out in arms saying this was racially motivated blah blah blah. fuckers need something better to do.

07-13-2005, 10:39 PM	#5
Love Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,905	did you even read the article "Pena, 34, was holding his daughter Suzy when he opened fire on police last Sunday, unleashing 40 shots in three separate exchanges. He and his daughter died in a hail of gunfire after he confronted police in an alley behind his apartment." "After 4 p.m., shortly after officers arrived, Pena began shooting, using the toddler as a shield, Bratton said."

07-13-2005, 10:40 PM	#9
cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	By the way this is troll bait you silly fools Im trying to find a democrat to bash tonight

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4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	like the police have a sniper waiting for shootouts... jeeez

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cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	Where are all the minorities tonight? Early bedtime to get to the food stamp appointment in the morning?

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reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	That stupid cop needs more seminar. Or giver him water guns instead.

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cambaby So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CR Posts: 3,141	Headshot!

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07-13-2005, 11:42 PM	#33
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	the police did everything right, this guy was drunk and on crack, holding his daughter while shooting at the cops

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nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	that stupid baby is better of dead anyways she would have grown up to be a crackwhore and live off of welfare __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

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SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	The cops were idiots the father was an adiot , the mother was an idiot , they all were idiots.. Cops are supposed to give their own life to protect others , not kill people to protect themselves.. My theory is in cases where something seems drastic is , Was there a way to avoid it.? In this case there wasnt much that could have been done.. Somone mentioned liberals whining about beanbag guns etc, but it isn't such a bad idea.. certainly it doesnt take 90 shots to kill 1 man. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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Ogix Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Banned Posts: 1,025	fucking police!fuck police!fuck police!fuck cops!fuck police and fuck all of them!fuck police!fuck them!fuck them all!

07-14-2005, 12:18 AM	#42
Vagisil Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: stank poona Posts: 399	I think it's funny that anyone could even remotely fault these officers... the motherfucker SHOT a cop in the shoulder (could have EASILY been his head or heart), he was still shooting at police and they shot at him, a MOVING, erratic target. 1 cop wasn't PERFECT in his aim, the poor little girl died. As tragic as it is, COPS are NOT perfect. They tried their best. Sometimes hostages die. It's a fact. It happens. It appauls me that the family and some of you idiots can say the police had any fault in this. I would venture to say that even if the GUY did not SHOOT A COP, just shot AT COPS, they would be EQUALLY as RIGHT to shoot how and when they did. __________________ I fix your discharge.....

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I have NEVER heard a story like this before were the cops kill a hostage in an attempt to take down the criminal. They should have backed off and waited for a sharpshooter to arrive. How would you like to be taken hostage in LA now, knowing that at any moment they could unload gunfire on YOU just to kill your captor?