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    a surfer that signs up, gets off and cancels is useless! you want to peek their interest.. want to make them see more..  beyond the i want to get off.. surfers will pay for something they can not get for free. you just need to interest them enough.. whether that be  6 pics or 16 pics.. doesn't matter. galleries are an ad device to get them to check out the sponsor.
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 once this 2257 stuff gets worked out I might be up for it. 
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 But hey if you are happy with what you get stick with it man! But all I am saying is that I rather have 10000 galleries that I made myself and that I have controll over then 10000 FHG. Ratios will be better...traffic will be better and so on and so on.... And about your post just here above...ones again you think like a webmaster and not a surfer. 
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 there is no proof that 15 pic or 16 pic galleries make more sales.. there is proof though that a 15 or 16 pic gallery will get listed more often than a 6 pic gallery.. more listing = more traffic = more sales = more $$$ i'm not arguing the less is more theory... it's true.. but no one will give you traffic! 
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	Another thing that hasn't been mentioned is 2257. Are you affraid of 2257? TGP2 is your answer. TGP2 sites would love non nude galleries. Funny. I had a gallery on Richards-Realm once and it did very well. Tawnee and Jordan Capri with not a whole lot showing. Only a few pics. Recently I redid the graphics and resubmitted it. They turned it down because it didn't show enough nudity. The same gallery had sold a total of 10 memberships and is responsible for 3 months of rebills on 8 of them... What does that tell you? Webmasters are mistaken and have lost site of why surfers like Lightspeed in the first place. Softcore-teasing... The guy has built an empire on it and webmasters are to thick headed to realize that.  | 
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 Did I not say in my thread....We are building a network! There will be sites to trade with...YOU will not get to submit your galleries to other people... You will have to build your own sites to get traffic. We dont want any freeloader webmasters. We want people who are willing to work for the traffic. How hard is it to understand? 
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 i think i'm thinking more of a surfer than you.. you're thinking like a webmaster when you say give them less porn.. you have to give what the surfer wants.. if they would rather visit a tgp1 rather than a tgp2 what should you make? btw, the mentaility of keeping traffic within my own circle.. don't leak out traffic.. etc. was exactly what i thought when i first started out.. but i've learned it simply doesn't work that way.. good luck with your reinvention of tgp2.. unless it's radically different from the original one, it will fail again just like the first time 
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		 Well... Time to fire up the networks and build the galleries... TGP2 is back and Cum Sensei is going to take this thing and run with it. You can either be on the train or off the chain, it doesn't really matter to me. I prefer having little or no competition. Though, it'd be nice to have some of you to trade with. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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   the average TGP submitter makes shit.. which is why they complain that TGP sucks.. if everyone made lots in TGP then the serious submitters would be in trouble.. saying you make a little more than shit pushing non-nude stuff is not saying much.. 
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		 This thread brings good feelings. I'm glad to see a discussion about TGP2 in here.  There are those that are doing well and others that are doing poorly.  TGP2 is like a family.  When one is hurting we are there trying to help. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 While were talking about TGP2. Over at the TGP2 gallerypool the rules clealry state no outside links but what about 2257? We HAVE to have 2257 links on our pages. Is this rule going to be amended? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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   if you've figured it out, why does it "suck" TGP is probably the longest running successful porn story.. since the beginning it's been there and still alive and kicking today. if it sucks so much, why are there still plenty of TGPs? why are there still plenty of submitters? that's right.. because it works! TGP2 never lived up to it's potential and probably never will. i'm not saying it's the best converting traffic.. mostly due to the clueless webmasters that try to sell the paysites they promote as "free".. but it makes money and is just another source of traffic and revenue. 
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 And we got the forum setup for this whole oldschoolt concepts... We will be building: toplists. Picposts (Do you remember these?) Link lists tgp2 All working interlinked. We are starting to grow a nice little clan at my forum so I think in say 6 months or so this will be fucking kickin ass! We are gonna suply all people who want in with everything they need to get started including scripts and directions and guidence how to proceed. Like I said before..this is my own little crusade and if I can change the mind of a few people to follow this idea I will be happy. Btw...I just got contacted by one of the big players in the industry about this idea...intressting 
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		 Just curious, I like the TGP2 concept. And I honestly do believe in it. People might be calling it dead, but many do call the non nude scene dead as well.(18+) While it's not. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 TGP2 and non-nude sites is not necessarily dead.. it's just not active with a lot of support.. if you have your own sites and traffic.. you can do whatever you want.. i have nothing against TGP2.. it would be great if there was more support.. but the reality is you WILL NOT be getting big traffic from the big TGP guys to your TGP2 galleries and non-nude sites.. without traffic, you got no sales.. cumsensei, just curious.. were you in the biz the first time around? unless you have some new engenious approach to TGP2, history will repeat itself.. ![]() 
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 I also know what killed it back then and it was not just low traffic. And yes this time around things will be different. 
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		 Annasporn  has submitted them to the hun with success. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 Perhaps we can work together on some of this. We have been doing simular stuff as your crew. We've been doing Tgp2 since the begaining in July of 2001. We have tried almost everything and know what works and doesn't work. Toplist, Picpost and the such are great sources for traffic. One thing everyone forgets is traffic can be bought and sent to Tgp2 sites and galleries. It does pay off. It sure more sense then buying a gallery spot and making little or no sales. Tgp2 simply converts better then the industry norm. So no traffic isn't as big a factor as everyone thinks it is. If you can't get it then buy it! Duh. OzKaNoz Still Tgp2 after all these years.  | 
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		 For sure we will contact you when we have a simple network online man. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I am expecting nothing else! I want a close working relation. Just want to get my stuff online first 
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		 Please explain D.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Looks like Cum Sensei is on a conversion roll... and everyone else is invited. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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