Tgp2 gallery on a "tgp" conversions since one week back.
 

I talked to a few persons who said tgp2 galleries did not work so I asked em to let me have a spot for a week on their tgps with my tgps 2 galleires and then we could compare ratios....

I dont know if I make good galleries and they make em bad but I creamed their asses lol!

My overall ratio 1:120
Their: 1:380

The join clicks was awsome!

I will make them convert to the tgp2 clan lol!

Peace out!

Yep tgp2 worked really well for me but I found after a year of submitting galleries there were fewer places that took tgp2 galleries. I'm still getting sales from my old galleries from over 2 years ago. Think I'm going to start submitting them again now as well.


Smurfette

It will never work. Surfers will always move on to the next tgp that lists 16 pics instead of 6 or whatever.

Wow... I would really like to see your tgp galleries. I have never been able to make sales from them.

tgp2 are great, they convert a LOT better

Thats how tgp webmasters people talk.

You are wrong. You have to think as a surfer. I talked to some friends that are not in this bizz and I can tell you this much..I gave them 2 options....they would stay with my kind of sites after what I told them.

How could you make sales from my galleires? ;)

I dont believe Franck runs any TGPs :2 cents:

Feel free to show me some of yours and I give you some pointers if you like.

I dont want to make sales off your galleries.. I just wanted to see one. I don't do TGP2. I tried it a long time ago, it didnt work out for me. I run TGP's and submit TGP galleries and thats all I need.

It was a long time ago. I dont even remember where I put them. No biggie, just wanted a visual from you thats all.

Give me your icq or add me and I show you.

Argh, can you be quiet about TGP2 please :)
Please let this thread die :winkwink:

Why would you want those kind of surfers that are obvously aren't interested in paying for porn?

From my own experience as both a surfer and a webmaster, less is more.

You people need to learn a thing or two about marketing. You are supposed to be controlling the surfer and making them buy more product, not letting them control you and twist your arm into giving it away for free.

Talk about sheep... haha... I am watching webmasters be the sheep and surfers be the shepherds!

Quit telling me the sky is falling. The only thing that is falling here is the Cum Sensei and I's ratios! If you want to be a chicken little go right ahead. Fact is you are making us the unique area of the web and uniqueness always gets more interest.

Remember this?

http://www.linkification.com/linked/tgp2c.gif

no... when is it from?

How would you do it with a movie gallery? 1 movie clip instead of 3?

2002, I think.

Yes correct.

1 small clip no longer then about 10-15 seconds and most important...NOT EXPOSING ANYTHING OF THE GOOD STUFF!

The idea is to get the surfer to go to the paysite to get that goodie!

I get pissed everytime I see movie galleries with 3-10 movies all exposing the money shot and everything. Why would the surfer go to the paysite then?

No give them a small bite..then they have to go to the restaurant to get the big meal.

And ofcourse lots of ads around the movie clip thumb...the idea with tgp2 is to get LOTS of ad exposure...

In one of mine galleries I get 2 on the index page then 2 on each picture html page EXCLUDED the big picture who also lead to the sponsor.

Is that not better then just 2-3 links on a index page giving away 15-20 pictures?

Added you to my icq.

Ok added you man.

Now the trick is getting anyone to list you. I mean paid listings might be an option if they would take it.

No you wont need to pay or anything to get listed.
You list your own galleries in you own network...just making galleires will not make you enough money..you need to have the whole packadge!

Own sites, list your own galleries, trade with others, submit to other sites.

Then you will be on your way.

I never submit galleries, but when I build them for my own sites.. I always use the less content rule.. That and I link the images to HTML. Seems to work fine on my sites, you just have to make sure and pick the best possible pictures for the gallery since there is less.

is there a current list of tgp2's who take submissions?

Not that I know of...but thats not what im trying to do..I am trying to get more SITES into this....you build a site you manage it and host your own made galleries.
:)
This is NOT for the people who just want the traffic but dont want to work for it.

That's not true. Then why not let webmasters submit 100 pic galleries, more is better right? Have any proof of this? Got any statistical date on 15 pic galleries vs 16 pic galleries. 16 pics should be better since they have an extra pic.

5 good pics on a gallery or 16 pics which 11 are crap. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Well to be honest I think it´s bad enough when tgps tell webmasters the pictures or movies have to be huge as fuck!

A gallery is nothing more then a advertisment for something...why give them the whole product for free? No fucking way...for me it ends here..

I am going my own path to offer the surfers less and get more to the sponsors...if someone want to follow me fine..if they dont there is nothing I can do about it.

(Btw about all you contacting me on icq...I get right to you when I have time. Sorry if it´s taking long but my icq is a fucking xmas tree right now LOL!.)

tgp2 may convert better (i haven't done it in a time). the reason it flopped was not the conversions.. it was the lack of tgp2 traffic. tgp2 owners felt that they couldn't get enough traffic as compared to the traffic that tgp1 owners got..

take this example, if you get 10,000 hits a day to a tgp2 gallery which gets you 1 sale vs.. 50,000 a day to a tgp1 gallery which gets you 2 sales just because you are getting more traffic. which would you do? i'd take the 2 sales any day! sure you would like it to convert better but in the end you want more sales and more $$$ :1orglaugh with the lack of tgp2 sites, it's even harder to get traffic.

as for the surfer mentally.. i'm sure they know that tons of free porn exists.. tgp1,tgp2,mgp,linklist sites.. after a while they are all the same! yes they will always look for more free porn. they will look for better and better. from tgp1 -> tgp2 -> mgp. you can't stop it.. every site owner is fighting for there attention by providing more and more free porn.. it may seem that tgp1 is giving away more free porn than tgp2.. but it really isn't.. it's still giving a surfer a SAMPLE.. what you are hoping for is that the surfer eventually gets bored of the samples.. and want to see more of a certain girl.. more or a certain niche.. some 30 minute videos of a particular model.. something that NO tgp can give for free...

I work different. I look how to tease my surfers. They are so excited, they have wood, but they want to shoot cum. They pull their CC, so see more, and voila...

Well that was because what most site owners thought was that building a tgp2 site was the SAME as a tgp site. It´s not, the traffic are smaller but the goals are not set to make a 100K site..if I can get each of my 10 sites up to maby 7-10K a day that will be enough to make me 1K a month income from each site. And with 10 sites up and running...well you understand the rest.


Well what if 10K traffic a day to a gallery give you about 20-30 signups because the traffic are better and you still only get 2 sales from 50-100K to the normal gallery (This happens you know)
Would you still take the 50K hits? Think quality not quantity.

How the fucking hell can you say a tgp2 gallery that have less content and way more ads gives away just as much as a tgp gallery with 16-209 big picture from one set and only 2-3 link out? That I dont understand at all.

And NO not all surfers know where to find porn. You think like a webmaster (I hope you are one) and thats nothing like the way the surfer thinks...nothing of a sort!

But hey keep your 2 signups on 50K and I keep my signups for me :)

I have based my entire business model on "less is more" and my ratios have consistently been better than TGP submitters. Not only that, my click through ratios from my page to the sponsor is way above the 5% or whatever TGP submitters pull.

Cumsensei, if you wouldn't mind showing me a tgp2 gallery I would appreciate it. I might have something we can use. ICQ: 281896315

One or two. Is Choker's still one?

I know some one who had good luck with a TGP2 gallery on the hun!

I know you're busy, hit me up when you can. I really want to discuss this with you.

Yep, I remember. We even had a big TGP2 meeting in Vegas!
Too bad we lost that domain. TGP2base.com is the new home of TGP2.

yea, I can imagine :)

I used to build tgp2 gallerys 2-3 years ago and they always converted pretty good, just like Smurfette I still get sales from those gallerys......

and like Sensei says to make any larger amount of cash these days on tgp2 you need to operate the sites as well as the gallerys.

Do any sponsors offer FHG's in this format?

You are one lazy fuck!
Do it like in the old days...BUILD YOUR OWN GALLERIES! Jesus today people wont work anything...
I build over 100 galleries today alone!

Sorry if I come down hard now...but I been zippin redbull all day and I am a little wired up now..in the zone if you will ;)

some did... when tgp2 first came it. when it died, sponsors stopped making them.

it's not about being lazy.. some guys actually would rather work on getting traffic to their tgps than do the mind numbing tasking of creating descriptions, galleries, etc.. if a sponsor won't do it, another will.. hey, they want your traffic as much as you want their affiliate checks.

Yes and when you use the FHG you loose out on SE traffic you miss the oppurtunity to create your own unique galleries that noone have seen and to optimize them for your sites.

YOu also miss out on links within your system that make SE loves you more.

But hey! What do I know.-

good concept. I remember the big issue before was getting normal tgps to link to the sites that listed smaller content.

I think karups has them. There is a list around.
The problem is that hosted galleries don't bother with pics on html.
Just use your old tgp galleries, divide them up
into 5 pics and put the pics on html, its easy!

No offence taken, I know how to make gallery templates also. Yes 100 per day isn't difficult with the same (or close to it) html and a batch cropping/resizing program. :)

But as someone in the US who doesn't want to have 2257 concerns, FHG's are a great tool to advertise hardcore programs, which is why I'm asking. I think one of the first galleries I ever made was tgp2 style, but then I couldn't find anywhere to submit it to at the time...

Didn't I tell you to let this thread die? :)

Wan't an easy way to make a tgp2? Use the rotateher.com links feature your own galleries. Looking to get started, here are some
good articles:
http://www.vnwr.com/dfn/052405/index.html

Hey I am on a crusade here.
And all that want to join can!

This will be REAL good!

Jimmer contact me and I show you where we will work from.

We have a forum set up for this...and no its not the old tgp2 forum..we gonna work things a little different at this place.