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Old 06-01-2005, 12:17 AM   #1
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MensNiche Tests Sex.com - RESULTS here!

MensNiche.com Test Sex.com Traffic, RESULTS HERE!!!

These results reflect the traffic quality and amounts from sex.com and not overall conversions of MensNiche products, you can find that here:

http://www.mensniche.com/topten.php (new pay period but updates dynamically as sales are made today)

What?s with Sex.com?

After working with affiliates for over 3 years, we?re constantly trying to find new ways to help them make more money with our programs. Recently, we found that many of our affiliates were asking if Sex.com traffic could work with our products.

Instead of telling them to go ahead and give Sex.com a try, we decided it would be best for our affiliates financially, if we tested the program first. So we decided to give their system a whirl and publish the results?

The Test:

We deposited $1,000 into a Sex.com account in December 2004, we then contacted Michelle ([email protected]) who took on the job of making our products convert and bring us a healthy return on our investment.

The products we used for the test were:

ProSolution Pills - http://www.prosolutionpills.com/
Volume Pills - http://www.volumepills.com/
Penis-Health - http://www.penis-health.com/
SizeGenetics - http://www.sizegenetics.com/
Attract Sexy Women - http://www.attractsexywomen.com/
Pro Enhance Patch - http://www.proenhance.com/
Kama Sutra - http://www.orgasmickamasutra.com/

Read below for each of their results?

Keywords

Below you will find a list of the top 10 keywords for each website, our clicks and their cost to us.

ProSolution Pills - http://www.prosolutionpills.com/



Volume Pills - http://www.volumepills.com/




Penis-Health - http://www.penis-health.com/



SizeGenetics - http://www.sizegenetics.com/



Attract Sexy Women - http://www.attractsexywomen.com/



Pro Enhance Patch - http://www.proenhance.com/



Kama Sutra - http://www.orgasmickamasutra.com/



Most of these campaigns had about 200+ keywords which picked up small amounts of traffic, if you would like a full list for your own campaigns, let me know ([email protected])

The Results

MensNiche.com Stats



As you can see by far the penis enlargement products performed the best:

Penis-Health - 10 Sales
ProSolution Pills - 9 Sales
ProEnhance - 6 Sales

In the end, with our $1000 and after a chargeback, we made $387.96. Keep in mind that this includes all the $$ spent on other programs other than the PE. (If we did this again we would ONLY push Penis Enlargement as this did the best). If we invested all the money in penis enlargement that figure would have doubled, which would have yielded about 50% ($500) return on investment. Live and learn.

Time This Took

These clicks came in over a 4 month period. Obviously, this is by no means a quick job, so if you?re looking for a quick ROI then this is not a very good source of traffic. However, if you have some spare $$$ you can afford to tie up for a few months, it can potentially give you a very health return on your investment.

I hope you can take something from our experience with Sex.com. If you have any questions, by all means email either [email protected] or [email protected], we?ll be happy to help you out.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:19 AM   #2
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thanks for sharing, lots of people keep that kind of info to themselves


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Old 06-01-2005, 12:19 AM   #3
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Usual PPC traffic converts at 1:20 and on our forum we have tests with all the top PPC search engines, and tests comparing us to our competitors also.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:28 AM   #4
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nice of you to share these results
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:29 AM   #5
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thats a lot of chargebacks :|
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Old 06-01-2005, 01:00 AM   #6
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thats a lot of chargebacks :|
why? its most likely going to be one big order
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why? its most likely going to be one big order
exactly....
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:28 AM   #8
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bumpyyyyy
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:32 AM   #9
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so if an affiliate did that, how much he would be making (if the affiliate keeps a % and not the full amounts)
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:33 AM   #10
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so if an affiliate did that, how much he would be making (if the affiliate keeps a % and not the full amounts)
That is what the figures are based on, AFFILIATE % is what u see there.
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:52 AM   #11
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Thanks for sharing. Sex.com can be a fickle traffic source to work with. A 4 month snap shot is nice to see.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:03 AM   #12
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nice, thanks for sharing those results
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:03 AM   #13
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WOW! Thanks for the info!
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:06 AM   #14
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:40 AM   #16
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no way id wait 4 months for a 300 buck return. 3000, sure. 300, no fing way
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:46 AM   #17
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Much better results than i would expect actually - thx for sharing them.
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So as expected, sex.com traffic is not all that great
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So as expected, sex.com traffic is not all that great
indeed, but can be used...
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Old 06-01-2005, 09:54 AM   #21
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no way id wait 4 months for a 300 buck return. 3000, sure. 300, no fing way
Yeah, profit or not, that must be disappointing.
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Hey Pradaboy, add a link to that Jessica animation to Evil Genius Cash if you would.. Thanks
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You can make a profit on sex.com traffic but damn is it ever slow coming.
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You can make a profit on sex.com traffic but damn is it ever slow coming.
Exactly that sums up the experiment.
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our ppc stuff did a little better, but overall thats pretty close. its a pain in the ass managing those things and the time saved on leaving it alone has made me more money other places.

at least you didn't come in here and tell a bunch of stats lies like others do. i almost posted my fake stats pic, but you guys kept it real and i can't hate ya for that.

lol.

good keywords.
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our ppc stuff did a little better, but overall thats pretty close. its a pain in the ass managing those things and the time saved on leaving it alone has made me more money other places.

at least you didn't come in here and tell a bunch of stats lies like others do. i almost posted my fake stats pic, but you guys kept it real and i can't hate ya for that.

lol.

good keywords.
We will post stats which are very impressive from testing on google adwords etc, why not post urs on sex.com here
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Stats today so far on variety of PPC:

Webmaster Uniques Signups Ratio Payout
xxxxx6 country withheld 193 7 1/28 $519.58
xxxxx7 country withheld 722 5 1/144 $323.32
xxxxx3 from Canada 26 4 1/7 $388.96
xxxxx2 country withheld 326 4 1/82 $197.63
xxxxx5 country withheld 39 3 1/13 $87.48
xxxxx3 country withheld 81 3 1/27 $522.50
xxxxx2 from United States 188 2 1/94 $119.30
xxxxx0 country withheld 46 2 1/23 $142.00


www.mensniche.com/topten.php
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From my own experience with sex.com over a couple of years, their conversions dropped off dramatically.

Apparently, they took on new "partners" that IMO brought very questionable traffic sources to the program. Net net, the CPC rates dropped dramatically across most keywords/phrases as others learned how poor they were converting.

Caveat: Haven't used them in over 6 months so I can't say if any changes have been made or service improved since then.
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Interesting for you to share the information.
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So as expected, sex.com traffic is not all that great
If you're an amatuer and have no idea what you're doing, then you're right you won't make much money (proof of that above).
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If you're an amatuer and have no idea what you're doing, then you're right you won't make much money (proof of that above).
So your saying we are amateurs? We destroyed your market share

We regularily do tests on different PPCS so why don't you help your affiliates out and do similiar tests and post the results to them.
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So your saying we are amateurs? We destroyed your market share
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From my own experience with sex.com over a couple of years, their conversions dropped off dramatically.

Apparently, they took on new "partners" that IMO brought very questionable traffic sources to the program. Net net, the CPC rates dropped dramatically across most keywords/phrases as others learned how poor they were converting.

Caveat: Haven't used them in over 6 months so I can't say if any changes have been made or service improved since then.
The quality of the traffic is diluted with the addition of these "partners". When you disable a site to make changes or to take advantage of specific time periods it is useless because the feed appears to be cached and continues to draw down your account.

Money still to be made though. Just takes a lot of baby sitting.
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So you guys usually convert at 1:20, but on this case, even with a PPC campaign, you guys converted 1:921 overall?

Doesn't sound right....
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So you guys usually convert at 1:20, but on this case, even with a PPC campaign, you guys converted 1:921 overall?

Doesn't sound right....
Geeze www.mensniche.com/topten.php

proof there, this was more a test of sex.com traffic than our sites.
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If you say so Darren. Why don't I post shit here? Because why would I want to create more competition for myself? That's stupid.

Yes, you're amateurs. If you pull in $50 a month on sex.com it proves you know nothing about ppc. I do 25 times that a month on that one source. Keep pushing the snakeoil my limey friend.
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Geeze www.mensniche.com/topten.php

proof there, this was more a test of sex.com traffic than our sites.
How is that proof?

I can create a page like that in 10 seconds...
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All of sudden this thread took a 180º turn :S
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Thats awsome bro!
i should take a look on it
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:31 PM   #42
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These results mean something completely different to me.... Sex.com traffic is actually workable, even if slow.

I always theorised that it would be extremely difficult to convert, but with a well written and devised campaign it looks like I could possibly do something worthwhile here.

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If you say so Darren. Why don't I post shit here? Because why would I want to create more competition for myself? That's stupid.

Yes, you're amateurs. If you pull in $50 a month on sex.com it proves you know nothing about ppc. I do 25 times that a month on that one source. Keep pushing the snakeoil my limey friend.
ummm whats stupid is your contradicting yourself with your MASSIVE signature, if you didn't want to create competition for yourself by getting new affiliates, makes you a somewhat poor rep.

All our systems work Brad as you well know.
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How is that proof?

I can create a page like that in 10 seconds...
Righto, 10 seconds starts now....
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Darren thanks for sharing bro might have to give Sex.com a go soon especiallly with some of our extreme niches. All about finding the time.

When you say you contacted : Michelle ([email protected]) to set this up

Basicly did they go through and pick all the stuff for you to buy that would convert? Do you need to go in and build campains and other stuff or do they do that for you?

Thanks again

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nice stats, well worth the wait indeed! that's what thinking and planning long term is all about, great job!!
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Thanks for the info !

I would not give out such detailed info though...
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Darren thanks for sharing bro might have to give Sex.com a go soon especiallly with some of our extreme niches. All about finding the time.

When you say you contacted : Michelle ([email protected]) to set this up

Basicly did they go through and pick all the stuff for you to buy that would convert? Do you need to go in and build campains and other stuff or do they do that for you?

Thanks again

Matthew
Though I have not used sex.com so far (bad reputation concerning conversions) I guess it works like Overture ... the key is to find keywords that exactly match your content Another thing is to have some kind of 'credit card needed' text in your description and so on...

I am in the ppc SE game for years now ... if you let a sales rep pick the keywords for you chances are high you will spend a lot of $$$ ;-)

By the way love your program Matt
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Darren thanks for sharing bro might have to give Sex.com a go soon especiallly with some of our extreme niches. All about finding the time.

When you say you contacted : Michelle ([email protected]) to set this up

Basicly did they go through and pick all the stuff for you to buy that would convert? Do you need to go in and build campains and other stuff or do they do that for you?

Thanks again

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They wanted us to promote Sex.com to our affiliates, so they ran the entire campaign and picked keywords etc for us.
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I have looked over your posted results, and am going to give you some free advice. I believe your conversions may have been better if your products were more accurately named. I have taken the liberty of providing you with the new improved and much more accurate names below.

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