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Blah. Here's a suggestion for a "bigger government" solution to the problem....
Why doesn't the DOJ create a registry for all adult entertainment workers? For models/talent: The DOJ would require a small initial filing and certification fee, plus annual maintenance fees to store all the ID / real name realted documents there, at the DOJ. The models can register all thier stage names and aliases they use in the industry with them. The models would be issued a referenceable ID# and identification card. This photo id card could be shown to PRIMARY producers at the time of production - instead of an ID with personal details. At each shoot with a new primary producer, models would be required to log in to the DOJ registry site and add the ID# of each primary producer they will be working with. These entries would be one way only... the model can never remove this type of entry after making it (for good reason). For Primary Producers Primary producers would also register and create an account within the registry. They would pay a small intital fee and annual fees just like the models. A registered primary producer could then log into the DOJ web site for this registry, look up the assigned DOJ adult entertainment worker ID of the talent they wish to work with and be shown a picture of the DOJ registry id assigned to the model to verify the data. If the primary producer is confident that data and photo matches, the primary producer would make a photocopy or scan of the ID and begin working with that model. As with the talent, the primary producer would also make a one-way entry (not deleteable) with the talent he/she will be working with. When the primary producer licenses or sells the content to a secondary producer, then the primary producer will visit the DOJ registry and make a one-way entry with the secondary producers ID to signifiy that they have licensed or sold conent to that secondary producer. Secondary Producers: Seconary producers would also register and create an account within the registry. They would pay a small intital fee and annual fees just like the models and primary producers. Before a secondary producer purchases content from a primary producer the secondary producer should request from the primary producer to see the photocopied or scanned versions of the DOJ registry ids for the models the secondary producer will be purchasing content of, as well as request the DOJ registry ID # of the primary producer. The secondary producer could then log into the DOJ registry to confirm that A) the photo ID is correct, and B) the model has approved of his/her content to be distributed by the primary producer in question. When the secondary producer agrees to purchase or contract content from the primary producer, the secondary producer would log into the DOJ registry and make a one-way entry with the primary producers ID to signify this is someone he/she is doing business with. ---------------------------------------------------- Some other ideas for this system... As far as the one-way entries to signify who is working with who go, for added security, the DOJ registry could require approval from both parties before being permanently adding the entries to each parties file.... ...sort of like how paypal requests you to approve a payment into your account from an unverified user. Also... a feedback system. As long as prior transactions between the parties exist, complaints could be filed by any of the parties against any of the parties and be added to the registry... sort of like ebay feedback. This wouldn't be so much for the DOJ to police (unless there are excessive number of complaints?) as it is for the talent and producers to know who they are working with and any past problems at any of the levels. The way I see it this idea would: - Help talent protect their true identities from everyone except the DOJ. Not even the primary producer would need the true identity or personal details of the talnet - Help talent verify that the producer they are planning to work with doesn't have some very negative history (by looking up his feedback from other models). - By allowing any of the parties to perform lookups (if they have the proper information on the people or company they need to look up) It would help both the primary and secondary producers be 100% sure that the model(s) they are working with or purchasing content with is legit. So what do you think? This post is (c) Copyright 2005 GoBigtime, and may not be reproduced or distributed outside of this thread without permission ![]() |
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Finally... if the DOJ really wants to know who and what is where on every url....
The list URL's could then be uploaded as required (due to additions, deletion , modification) either by primary or secondary producers... or whoever is displaying the urls to the end users. The url list would simply be a 1 per line text file that is uploaded and composed of ID# of the model and the url that model currently appears on. Optionally the models and primary producers could have access to this end user URL data as well, simply by logging into their DOJ registry account. The reason for that would be... models or producers may have specific clasues for what can and can not be done with their images, this would be a way to help them track and verify that the images are being used in accordance with the license. |
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the DOJ already addressed something like that...
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So Fucking Banned
Join Date: Oct 2003
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SOrry, DOJ shot it down. They want records, they want them now, and they are not going to wait a year or two for implentation of some big program. Children are getting forced into porn every day and being molested, so better hurry up and check the records of the honest porn people rather than the fucker sending me 50 " real ch|ld pr0-n0s" spams today.
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They could get really silly and wherever possible suggest that the models ID# is embedded in an alt/title tag within the html.... so for example you (or the DOJ) could just hover over a photo of a model in a tour, and if you had other alt text there, at the end of the alt text it would just have something like "#9UY8NFE7" which would be the referenceable id of the model....
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Makes sense .
Here in Quebec, we get certificates from the gov for every movie/video release. They have the contract between the producer and distributor and emit a certificate. Each copy afterwards is sold to stores with an affixed sticker sold by the gov. It is feasable by a provincial gov, how can it not be feasable by the mighty powerfull US gov ??? Because it doesn't suit their goals...
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It wouldn't be burdensome on the Department, because the Department would could create a special unit within the Department dedicated to the registry That unit would be more than 100% funded by annual fees of the people in the registry. For ALL of adult entertainment, the unit could be easily handled by a staff of no more than 10 permanent people - that's including the programming/IT staff. Around ~50 extra temporary staff members would be needed to start (for maybe 90 days) to help process the initial surge of applications. Several years to develop? We could develop and deploy every aspect of this system in 90-150 days. And by every aspect I mean setting up the network and website, setting up the office, training the team members... everything. |
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I think in the end they'll have to do something like this thread suggests. It's a very fair system and the only way they'll silence the opposition. In many ways, this system is even better for the industry than doing nothing at all. It solves alot of the uncertainty problems with people selling content and their models. |
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They would never do anything like that because it would put the burdon on them, not us as much..
Top it off with I don't believe this law will be used to stop CP.. I think it's going to be used as an extra tool for the DOJ to bring down their obscenity targets.. If they cared or thought 2257 could stop CP, they would have done at least one record check over the last 5 years, with the existing law.
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Assume at any given time, 100,000 people are in adult (world wide) that would be required to registe in order to do business in the US... times initial AVERAGE registration cost of $250 (producers higher, models lower). to help pay for design of the system and initial account creation...
So that's $25,000,000 - $25 million dollars. Then, annual fees could be an average of $100 (slightly more for producers, slightly less for models)... so that would be an annual budget of around $10,000,000. After the initial creation and population of the registry, the staff could be fairly small and the overhead for that staff would definitely be way under the annual budget. |
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Yeah but if they did that they would have to cancell their witch hunt.
And the current admin loves a good witch hunt. |
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DOJ?
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You are missing the point. The DOJ is not looking for a good record-keeping system. The DOJ is trying to create a "web of regulations" that is difficult (if not impossible) to follow as a way of putting as many porn producers out of business as possible.
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