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Old 05-22-2005, 02:41 PM   #51
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I do find it funny that you accuse me of not being able to think for myself and then your very next sentence includes a bad poltical seterotype.
You think right wing fundamentalists likes free speech? That's not a stereotype, it's a fact. They wants porn illegal and they want you in jail.

You must be pretty sheltered to not have seen what the far right has tried to do with the first amendment when they get the chance.

Porn webmasters who support the far right are like an abused wife in a relationship where their husband is beating them. The far right hates you and wants to lock you up, and you keep kissing their ass.

Get out of the bad relationship you're in with the far right!

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Old 05-22-2005, 02:42 PM   #52
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More proof you dont belong in any political discussion
Do you believe an adult should be able to read anything they want?
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:42 PM   #53
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Many of the liberals in the thread have been told that president Bush wants to stop stem cell research.

That simply shows how uninformed they are.

I can make this thread extremely embarassing for them, but I'm having alot of fun as it is.


FunForOne, if you had a daughter with a crippling illness, or you were in a wheelchair, do you think your views on stem cell harvesting would change?



Personally, I think that mankind should push genetic engineering as far as we can go. I'd love to see vat grown replacement organs ( designer, no less ) in 50 years.


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Old 05-22-2005, 02:44 PM   #54
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FunForOne, if you had a daughter with a crippling illness, or you were in a wheelchair, do you think your views on stem cell harvesting would change?
If Rush Limbaugh's views change, his will change. Otherwise, nothing will change them.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:46 PM   #55
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They just want people to harvest them from alternate sources, but those sources are much more difficult to harvest the best cells from. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The embryonic research has shown far less results than the alternative sources.
It is argued that it does have more long term potential, but the science is just not ready for it.

Things could change tomorrow, then it may be appropriate to change policies regarding funding related to existing embryos.

As of now, president bush is against further government funding of embryonic stem cell research for ethical and scientific reasons.



Liberals just decided to tell you that superman died because President Bush reads his bible.

Whoever started this thread felt the topic extremely important, but didn't take the time to google. My bet is that they had little time becuase this was posted on a lot more message boards. It wasn't meant for serious scientific and ethical discussion.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:53 PM   #57
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The embryonic research has shown far less results than the alternative sources.
It is argued that it does have more long term potential, but the science is just not ready for it.


Really?


From the little bit of late night reading into this subject, I believe that scientists have said stem cells harvested from embryos is the best source there is. Hmm!


I bet scientists around the world wouldn't agree which is the definitive best source.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:53 PM   #58
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Give him time! He has to do a search at Rush's website to see what he believes.

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Old 05-22-2005, 02:54 PM   #59
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Do you believe that adults should be able to read whatever they want?
Ahh...Danny boy...the question should be...do you beleive that an adult should be legally able to publish whatever they want?

Well?
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:55 PM   #60
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Ahh...Danny boy...the question should be...do you beleive that an adult should be legally able to publish whatever they want?

Well?
what? fuck off. It's a simple question.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:56 PM   #61
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Do you believe that adults should be able to read whatever they want?


You actually, unknowingly, hit the nail on the head. I dont speak for everyone in the republican party, but I Imagine most feel the same way I do.

"ADULTS"


I believe "adults" should enjoy as much porn as they want. I believe "adults" should read anything they want.


I have a son, I hope he learns about "fisting" and "double penetration" when he is old enough to comprehend the consequences of his actions and his actions toward others.

My job is stimulate the growth of his mind until it matures. That takes time, to speed up that process, would leave his maturity incomplete. There is no black and white, the natural timely discovery of things is important in the development process.

Just my opinion. This is my first try at fatherhood, but I plan alot.
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Give him time! He has to do a search at Rush's website to see what he believes.

You seem to be well versed in what Rush has to say...which would make you the only person that I know of that listens to Rush.
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Ahh...Danny boy...the question should be...do you beleive that an adult should be legally able to publish whatever they want?

Well?
and the answer is yes.
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Old 05-22-2005, 02:57 PM   #64
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Ahh...Danny boy...the question should be...do you beleive that an adult should be legally able to publish whatever they want?

Well?
Another brainwashed Bush sheep arrives to attack free speech.

Pathfinder thinks free speech is too dangerous, because we're at war with Muslims!
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well that puts you one ahead of most of your colleagues


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what? fuck off. It's a simple question.
Ahh...yes it is...and if you put down the MJ for a few hours...Danny boy... maybe...just maybe...you will find a coherent answer.
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I really do find it funny that the someone would take the time to tell everyone they are from free speech land and then bash a political radio show for existing in every post.
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Another brainwashed Bush sheep arrives to attack free speech.

Pathfinder thinks free speech is too dangerous, because we're at war with Muslims!
Pathfinder is a fucking disturbed individual, one of the dozens who post in every political thread in defense of conservative issues but doesn't want to admit to being a conservative.

His idea of an insult is to call me Danny-boy, which is always good for a laugh.

My name is Bernie, theking, and Pathfinder sucks cocks in hell.
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I really do find it funny that the someone would take the time to tell everyone they are from free speech land and then bash a political radio show for existing in every post.
yes we're from 'free speech land' where everyone gets along and flowers grow all along the roadside hahahaha

You don't believe in free speech, and you DON'T believe adults should be free to read anything they want to read. You just have to say it because you know you'll be laughed off the board if you don't
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and the answer is yes.
So you are in favor of publishing books about...hmm lets say...how to make bombs and terrorize you neighbor...how to committ murder and get away with...how to produce a "dirty nuke"...or how about how to seduce and molest children and get away with it...etc...etc? This is your brain on drugs...Danny boy.
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yes we're from 'free speech land' where everyone gets along and flowers grow all along the roadside hahahaha

You don't believe in free speech, and you DON'T believe adults should be free to read anything they want to read. You just have to say it because you know you'll be laughed off the board if you don't


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So you are in favor of publishing books about...hmm lets say...how to make bombs and terrorize you neighbor...how to committ murder and get away with...how to produce a "dirty nuke"...or how about how to seduce and molest children and get away with it...etc...etc? This is your brain on drugs...Danny boy.
I'm in favor of publishing anything and everything Pathfinder. Adults should be able to sort the good from the bad on their own without daddy W telling them what's ok and what's not ok to look at lest they hurt their widdle eyes.
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you wish

do you believe that women should enjoy the same level of freedom as men?
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I'm pretty sure they dont want you using the word "harvested" in the fight to legislate and pay for the growth of young humans to dismantle and use body parts as they see fit.
This is an "adultboard" as you say so often ... tough I never saw you posting anything business related ....
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This is an "adultboard" as you say so often ... tough I never saw you posting anything business related ....


Ask me a business related question and I'll do my best to answer.
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Another brainwashed Bush sheep arrives to attack free speech.

Pathfinder thinks free speech is too dangerous, because we're at war with Muslims!
FYI...PF has been dead...approaching three years now...but thank you for believing that I am he.

Further more...FYI...I am not now a Republican...and have never been a Republican. In addition I did not vote for President Bush the first time and did not vote for him the second time...and I do not like Mr. Bush holding the office of the Presidency...thank you very much.

Having said the above...feel free to carry on with your fiction Mr. Fiction...even though you are not very good at it.
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what sites do you run?
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Embryotic stem cells do perform and show better results than adult or "other" stem cells. To use a better word they are still highly plastic.
One must actually really follow the current and past research as well as keep very up to date on foriegn data to really understand this issue.
Like so many others it is very easy to get scientists to counter what other scientists say in order to push or halt an agenda. Keep in mind our Government still believes that global warming needs more study, and the tobacco companies were also able to debunk most all scientists with their own for decades. So just because some reports claim otherwise does not in no way even often resemble the truth.
Christian right wing republicans (not all republicans) desire to keep embryos from being used due soley on the religious angle and the scare tactics that it would lead to baby harvesting (more abortions).
Like it or not though stem cell research even at the embryo level will go on and move foward. The majority of this research though will either be done in other countries or in small well funded private labs in the US. At one point in time our country lead the world in such fields, but alas like many others the powers that be would rather ignore what made us prosper and try to return us to some utopian god fearing society that never exsisted in the first place.
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FYI...PF has been dead...approaching three years now...but thank you for believing that I am he.

Further more...FYI...I am not now a Republican...and have never been a Republican. In addition I did not vote for President Bush the first time and did not vote for him the second time...and I do not like Mr. Bush holding the office of the Presidency...thank you very much.

Having said the above...feel free to carry on with your fiction Mr. Fiction...even though you are not very good at it.
shut up man, your act is ooooold.

what's the story again? Pathfinder died, left his monitor on this page and you just decided to start posting?

hahahahahahaha

you're such a weird fuck
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Embryotic stem cells do perform and show better results than adult or "other" stem cells. To use a better word they are still highly plastic.
One must actually really follow the current and past research as well as keep very up to date on foriegn data to really understand this issue.
Like so many others it is very easy to get scientists to counter what other scientists say in order to push or halt an agenda. Keep in mind our Government still believes that global warming needs more study, and the tobacco companies were also able to debunk most all scientists with their own for decades. So just because some reports claim otherwise does not in no way even often resemble the truth.
Christian right wing republicans (not all republicans) desire to keep embryos from being used due soley on the religious angle and the scare tactics that it would lead to baby harvesting (more abortions).
Like it or not though stem cell research even at the embryo level will go on and move foward. The majority of this research though will either be done in other countries or in small well funded private labs in the US. At one point in time our country lead the world in such fields, but alas like many others the powers that be would rather ignore what made us prosper and try to return us to some utopian god fearing society that never exsisted in the first place.
I prefer to pretend that the average intelligence level on this board is higher than in the general population, therefore it's not necessary to 'prove' over and over what scientists and educated people take as a given. The question isn't whether embryotic stem cells are better or easier to produce than adult stem cells. They are. The question is whether the religious freaks are going to allow the scientists to do their job even if it offends the Almight Gawd.
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I mean think about it.

God created everything.

he Created aids and diabetes and cancer and herpes and....

He DIDNT create the cures for those yet. Therefore they must be godly. right?



there is some exciting new research coming out of germany with type 2 diabetes that may apply to type 1 as well. Fingers crossed for your daughter.

I forget the exact details but it involved extracting tissue from one part of the body and putting it in another. :o it seemed relatively simple and is having some results.
who says god created anything ..who says he even exists ..
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what sites do you run?

You are really asking if I belong here. Thats a good question to ask, I have no problem with that.

I am very close to reaching my goal of averaging a reality cash signup a day for the entire month.

Remember, I never claimed to be a big timer in the industry. I've really just been full time since a couple months into this year.

As far as sites, I have several domains with small projects on each.

My bread and butter is gallery submissions. I do ok, I want to do better.

If you want to ICQ me, I'll show you some samples. If you are experienced in what I'm trying to accomplish, I also take advice.


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You are really asking if I belong here. Thats a good question to ask, I have no problem with that.

I am very close to reaching my goal of averaging a reality cash signup a day for the entire month.

Remember, I never claimed to be a big timer in the industry. I've really just been full time since a couple months into this year.

As far as sites, I have several domains with small projects on each.

My bread and butter is gallery submissions. I do ok, I want to do better.

If you want to ICQ me, I'll show you some samples. If you are experienced in what I'm trying to accomplish, I also take advice.


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Pathfinder is a fucking disturbed individual, one of the dozens who post in every political thread in defense of conservative issues but doesn't want to admit to being a conservative.

His idea of an insult is to call me Danny-boy, which is always good for a laugh.

My name is Bernie, theking, and Pathfinder sucks cocks in hell.
Thank you for the compliment...Danny boy.

The primary singular view that I have that some would call a [conservative] view...is that I am strong on defense spending...military R&D...and maintaing a large standing military. I was against the million man cut in military personell that was begun by President Bush Senior and followed through by President Clinton.

Other than that singular view...Danny boy...I am a moderate...with liberal leanings...thank you very much. I do not and have never defended this Administration and a conservative view in general...but I do defend against misinformation and lies about the same.
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Thank you for the compliment...Danny boy.

The primary singular view that I have that some would call a [conservative] view...is that I am strong on defense spending...military R&D...and maintaing a large standing military. I was against the million man cut in military personell that was begun by President Bush Senior and followed through by President Clinton.

Other than that singular view...Danny boy...I am a moderate...with liberal leanings...thank you very much. I do not and have never defended this Administration and a conservative view in general...but I do defend against misinformation and lies about the same.
if you can fit three 'Danny Boys' in one post, that means you win.

Also, you lying peice of shit, I've never seen you make ONE post leaning even slightly to the left, but about a million swerving hard right. So shut the fuck up.

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shut up man, your act is ooooold.

what's the story again? Pathfinder died, left his monitor on this page and you just decided to start posting?

hahahahahahaha

you're such a weird fuck
Incorrect "story"...Danny boy...but then again I have noticed that you memory is very short term...probably due to all of the drugs you have consumed.
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:28 PM   #88
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Incorrect "story"...Danny boy...but then again I have noticed that you memory is very short term...probably due to all of the drugs you have consumed.
The only thing dumber than your average post is the fact that I always reply to you
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:32 PM   #89
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The only thing dumber than your average post is the fact that I always reply to you
I releive you of the obligation...Danny boy...feel free not to reply. No need to thank me...Danny boy.
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:34 PM   #90
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I releive you of the obligation...Danny boy...feel free not to reply. No need to thank me...Danny boy.
one more danny boy and I'll be defeated. YOU CAN DO IT!!!
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:37 PM   #91
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It is sad to see at which level the USA is reduced ...

People choosed a " side" and stick to it, non-withstanding the issues ...

And, even if you can show the nonsense of their positions, they still remain blinded by their original choice ....


Let me put it a bit more simpler:

I was and am against the war in Iraq... I beleived it was conducted under false pretenses ...
But let's suppose the US would have comed up with the stocpile of WMD, I would have bowed the head and admit I was wrong, that I was fooled ...

I doubt FunForOne,Warchild,12Shits,TheKing can ever have that intellectual capacity ....

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Old 05-22-2005, 03:39 PM   #93
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one more danny boy and I'll be defeated. YOU CAN DO IT!!!
OK...Danny boy. BTW...nice "hooch" you recently acquired. You gave a price...but what is the annual property tax...providing you care to say...Danny boy?
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It is sad to see at which level the USA is reduced ...

People choosed a " side" and stick to it, non-withstanding the issues ...

And, even if you can show the nonsense of their positions, they still remain blinded by their original choice ....


Let me put it a bit more simpler:

I was and am against the war in Iraq... I beleived it was conducted under false pretenses ...
But let's suppose the US would have comed up with the stocpile of WMD, I would have bowed the haed and admit I was wrong, that I was fooled ...

I doubt FunForOne,Warchild,12Shits,TheKing can ever have that intellectual capacity ....

the enraging thing about it is that there was a ton of evidence that he was lying even as he said it over and over and democrats refused to put a stop to it. they were afraid that something WOULD be found and they would look bad and that if nothing was found it would be the end of his presidency for lying so blatantly to the country. Neither proved to be the case.
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:43 PM   #95
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because stem cell therapy works, and immortality has been reserved for the ultra elite?
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:43 PM   #96
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OK...Danny boy. BTW...nice "hooch" you recently acquired. You gave a price...but what is the annual property tax...providing you care to say...Danny boy?
http://www.bartaustin.com/lasvegas/property-taxes.html

I figure it'll cost me between 12 and 15k per year, but I could be wrong. A little more than the LA house probably.
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It is sad to see at which level the USA is reduced ...

People choosed a " side" and stick to it, non-withstanding the issues ...

And, even if you can show the nonsense of their positions, they still remain blinded by their original choice ....


Let me put it a bit more simpler:

I was and am against the war in Iraq... I beleived it was conducted under false pretenses ...
But let's suppose the US would have comed up with the stocpile of WMD, I would have bowed the head and admit I was wrong, that I was fooled ...

I doubt FunForOne,Warchild,12Shits,TheKing can ever have that intellectual capacity ....

FYI...I was a proponent for taking down Sadam and the Baath Party from '91...which is when they first began to break the truce agreements they signed...and remained a proponent each year there after...for accumlative reasons. Thus there is not any false pretenses from my point of view...my ire lies with the fact that President Bush Senior and President Clinton did not act to eliminate Sadam and the Baath party. I support President Bush for having acted...even though it was a decade over due. I do not support the way the conflict has been conducted and is currently being conducted...for mulitple reasons.
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FYI...I was a proponent for taking down Sadam and the Baath Party from '91...which is when they first began to break the truce agreements they signed...and remained a proponent each year there after...for accumlative reasons. Thus there is not any false pretenses from my point of view...my ire lies with the fact that President Bush Senior and President Clinton did not act to eliminate Sadam and the Baath party. I support President Bush for having acted...even though it was a decade over due. I do not support the way the conflict has been conducted and is currently being conducted...for mulitple reasons.
Are you also a proponent of 'taking down' the govt. of Uzbekistan, the Sudan and the hundreds of other little tinpot dictators currently brutalizing their populace?
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the enraging thing about it is that there was a ton of evidence that he was lying even as he said it over and over and democrats refused to put a stop to it. they were afraid that something WOULD be found and they would look bad and that if nothing was found it would be the end of his presidency for lying so blatantly to the country. Neither proved to be the case.


In the years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports showed that Saddam Hussein had worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.

He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein would have continued to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and would havel kept trying to develop nuclear weapons
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:54 PM   #100
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Are you also a proponent of 'taking down' the govt. of Uzbekistan, the Sudan and the hundreds of other little tinpot dictators currently brutalizing their populace?
I would not be against it particulary...but to the best of my knowledge the governments of neither of these two countries...have declared themselves to be an enemy of the US or have made themselves into a perceived enemy of the US. I could be wrong...and if I am...I am satisfied that it will be pointed out...Danny boy.
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