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Old 05-18-2005, 03:00 PM   #51
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So if you're buying your content legally from a reputable source - the cd should come with the necessary documentation - you print it out and stick it in a filing cabinet - exactly how fucking difficult is that?

For old content you have 2 choices - get the info from whom you bought it from or buy new content.

Buy New Content - stimulate the economy
Look Up The Info - hire somone to do it - stimulate the economy

Do It Yourself - AHA! That's the real problem! If you do it yourself, you won't have time to post and you gain oh - so much respect by having a high post count...
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Why don't you just answer the question? It is all about record keeping, and making them available.
Everyone draws their own conclusions. You seem to know everything, why don't you answer it? OH and I believe that I did with the 5-10, I would think that's enough to ruin anyone's life if they fucked up just once. I think it's an agenda, pure and simple.
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So if you're buying your content legally from a reputable source - the cd should come with the necessary documentation - you print it out and stick it in a filing cabinet - exactly how fucking difficult is that?

For old content you have 2 choices - get the info from whom you bought it from or buy new content.

Buy New Content - stimulate the economy
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Do It Yourself - AHA! That's the real problem! If you do it yourself, you won't have time to post and you gain oh - so much respect by having a high post count...
God lord - what rock have you been living under?
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12 clicks - #1 Bush fan on the planet...I knew you would make it over here.
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12 clicks - #1 Bush fan on the planet...I knew you would make it over here.
nah, he doesn't even make my top ten. I just understand how meaningless these worries about how he effects things are.
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Bush and you have a lot in common, as you are both idiots, and have a history of not exactly being truthful. However, if you think Kerry was the answer you might be a little dumber than Bush.
Well, at least Kerry would not have his hardcore right wing conservative base to pander to...this is exactly why we have this shit coming down the pike now...Rove and The Bible Bangers got him in, now it's time for some ass kissing.

And oh yeah, fuck you dickwad.
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does not having air conditioning count as a good point?
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I have air conditioning. I said living in Europe, not living in Poland.
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Why don't you just answer the question? It is all about record keeping, and making them available.
Hey stupiddog - have you read the original draft of 2257? They know that it is damn near impossible to keep those records and they don't give a fuck...this isn't about record keeping, this isn't about CP, this is about shoving the current administrations moral imparitives down the world's throat and getting all of this evil porn off the internet.

The record keeping that the new 2257 suggests would be difficult for even a large / well organized company to comply with...either you are 100% compliant or you are not.

Feds: "Oh, can we see {this models} id on {this banner} of your TGP."

TGP Guy: "Damn, that one was served from a bannerserver...It's in there but not cross refferenced quite right."

Feds: "Well then you are not 100% compliant. Put your hands against the wall - you are under arrest."

Now you are fucked.

But hell, postwhores like baddog don't have anything to worry about becasue they don't even make any money in this industry.
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Didn't all those people die in Germany during that heatwave a couple years ago?
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this is about shoving the current administrations moral imparitives down the world's throat and getting all of this evil porn off the internet.
Jay, this is the mistake people in porn make all the time.
Its not the administration's morals, its the majority of American's values.
its about not being able to give your children an email account because it will get spammed with "V1rgin sux huge Cocke" emails.
its about misdirecting mainstream urls to porn
etc. etc.

in that scenario, we lose all day long. It's not the president, its the people and lack of ethics in our biz.
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Jay, this is the mistake people in porn make all the time.
Its not the administration's morals, its the majority of American's values.
its about not being able to give your children an email account because it will get spammed with "V1rgin sux huge Cocke" emails.
its about misdirecting mainstream urls to porn
etc. etc.

in that scenario, we lose all day long. It's not the president, its the people and lack of ethics in our biz.
I actually agree with you on the porn spam and the redirection...something should be done about that, however, I don't think "its the majority of American's values" that are being represented here. This is W catering to a select few that would like to see censorship on the internet.

I actually think there could be a big backlash to this...it seems people don't care so much when our military is misused or if airport security is not quite what it could be, but the do get angry as hell when you fuck with their entertainment...and that's what porn is, after all, it's entertainment.
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Well, at least Kerry would not have his hardcore right wing conservative base to pander to...this is exactly why we have this shit coming down the pike now...Rove and The Bible Bangers got him in, now it's time for some ass kissing.

And oh yeah, fuck you dickwad.

You should stick to link lists, because you obviously don't know shit about politics
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just saw attorney general gonzalez on c-span talking about going after "internet porn" and "obscenity" and his plan seems to be to get local law enforcement more involved to police obscenity on a more "community" level... CP was mentioned once "internet porn" and "obscenity" a few times... those are direct quotes from his mouth and it is obvious what their intentions are


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Hey stupiddog - have you read the original draft of 2257? They know that it is damn near impossible to keep those records and they don't give a fuck...this isn't about record keeping, this isn't about CP, this is about shoving the current administrations moral imparitives down the world's throat and getting all of this evil porn off the internet.

The record keeping that the new 2257 suggests would be difficult for even a large / well organized company to comply with...either you are 100% compliant or you are not.

Feds: "Oh, can we see {this models} id on {this banner} of your TGP."

TGP Guy: "Damn, that one was served from a bannerserver...It's in there but not cross refferenced quite right."

Feds: "Well then you are not 100% compliant. Put your hands against the wall - you are under arrest."

Now you are fucked.

But hell, postwhores like baddog don't have anything to worry about becasue they don't even make any money in this industry.

yeah, I can see how tough it would be to get rid of any banner with hardcore content, or that you didn't have records on. idiot.

See, the difference between you and me is that if I have something up that I can't rely on my paperwork, I dump it. Not a problem.

I can hear your story now though . . . "I got arrested because I had a website up that was critical of the Bush Administration." Just like last time.
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I actually agree with you on the porn spam and the redirection...something should be done about that, however, I don't think "its the majority of American's values" that are being represented here. This is W catering to a select few that would like to see censorship on the internet.
See, the thing is, he won, by a majority of the popular vote this time around. He has reason to believe that it is the majority of American's values. If you ever listened to Kerry politic, he said the same fucking things as Bush did re: American values.

The wheels were in motion, it did not matter who got elected. Bush is an idiot. Kerry would have been worse though.


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I actually think there could be a big backlash to this...it seems people don't care so much when our military is misused or if airport security is not quite what it could be, but the do get angry as hell when you fuck with their entertainment...and that's what porn is, after all, it's entertainment.
And every time they try to bump up the airport security people here and in the news start claiming our personal liberties are being taken away.

However, if you think that there is going to be some negative political backlash to Bush's presidency due to the 2257 regs cutting in on the porn of the people, for the people and by the people, please wrap some of what you are smoking in a few layers of plastic wrap, twp layers of aluminum foil and stick it in a Tupperware container, then ship it to me, I would be forever greatful, and I will support whatever political rant you want to take.

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just saw attorney general gonzalez on c-span talking about going after "internet porn" and "obscenity" and his plan seems to be to get local law enforcement more involved to police obscenity on a more "community" level... CP was mentioned once "internet porn" and "obscenity" a few times... those are direct quotes from his mouth and it is obvious what their intentions are


LMAO at "it's just about record keeping"
God, lord...how stupid is that? The poilice do a poor enough job keeping real criminals off the street, now they gotta be burdened with worring about some dude roughing up his suspect to some free porn? Fucking genius!

CP is one thing. I would happily reprt that to the police if I had information about it, but this has nothing to do with CP...it is just convienent high moral ground to stand on and has nothing to do with the true intentions.
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just saw attorney general gonzalez on c-span talking about going after "internet porn" and "obscenity" and his plan seems to be to get local law enforcement more involved to police obscenity on a more "community" level... CP was mentioned once "internet porn" and "obscenity" a few times... those are direct quotes from his mouth and it is obvious what their intentions are


LMAO at "it's just about record keeping"

haha, yeah, I know my city has plenty of surplus money in the budget to have cops stay at the station and surf porn looking for sites that are owned by people in their jurisdiction.
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haha, yeah, I know my city has plenty of surplus money in the budget to have cops stay at the station and surf porn looking for sites that are owned by people in their jurisdiction.
you might think that but some jurisdictions have actually asked for the power to do so in the pass and asscroft denied them... there are plenty of right wing groups that have nothing but time on their hands and will report "obscene" material to anybody that will listen
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CP is one thing. I would happily reprt that to the police if I had information about it, but this has nothing to do with CP...it is just convienent high moral ground to stand on and has nothing to do with the true intentions.
yeah if anybody else happened to see the interview/speech please chime in but it was obvious that the long term target is anything "obscene" and not just CP....
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yeah if anybody else happened to see the interview/speech please chime in but it was obvious that the long term target is anything "obscene" and not just CP....

Okay, I get where you are going. My mistake. Now, would you mind telling me the legal definition of obscene, and what kind of content you are using, or a sponsor who you think meets that definition?
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Old 05-21-2005, 04:28 AM   #94
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Okay, I get where you are going. My mistake. Now, would you mind telling me the legal definition of obscene, and what kind of content you are using, or a sponsor who you think meets that definition?
that is a great question... the government won't define what they consider obscene... i sure as hell don't know... those are the terms that gonzalez himself used... the radio industry has been trying to get them to define "obscene" for over a decade and they won't do it.... and as far as I know they won't completely define sexually explicit but i could be wrong on that
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Old 05-21-2005, 04:42 AM   #95
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not to beat a dead horse but http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=470235 that thread gives you an idea of how they are rallying the troops fpr action.... there isn't any evidence that they are specifically targeting adult webmasters but it shows you that they have the arms to reach out anywhere they want to
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Old 05-21-2005, 04:43 AM   #96
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that is a great question... the government won't define what they consider obscene... i sure as hell don't know... those are the terms that gonzalez himself used... the radio industry has been trying to get them to define "obscene" for over a decade and they won't do it.... and as far as I know they won't completely define sexually explicit but i could be wrong on that

Did it ever occur to you that maybe this issue has been addressed before? People have been arguing about what is obscene since the 1830's and constantly since the end of the 1950's.

While you may hate Republicans and Bush, there is a bright spot. Republicans appoint Supreme Court judges, and they appoint conservative judges. I love conservative judges, and believe me, I have more time in front of judges than 98% of the people here (at least), and I know to appreciate a conservative judge.

Conservative judges go by the letter of the law. Liberal judges try to make a name for themself by saying gay marriages are okay, when the law plainly says it isn't (just an example).

The point is, it is the Courts that are going to decide it, and just be glad that we have a conservative Supreme Court that rules in our favor all the time.
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the day bush was re-elected was one fo the saddest days no doubt - I can still remember the feeling of shock and dis-belief watching the tv as the totals came in - I still think it was rigged somehow - it just had to be.
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Did it ever occur to you that maybe this issue has been addressed before? People have been arguing about what is obscene since the 1830's and constantly since the end of the 1950's.

While you may hate Republicans and Bush, there is a bright spot. Republicans appoint Supreme Court judges, and they appoint conservative judges. I love conservative judges, and believe me, I have more time in front of judges than 98% of the people here (at least), and I know to appreciate a conservative judge.

Conservative judges go by the letter of the law. Liberal judges try to make a name for themself by saying gay marriages are okay, when the law plainly says it isn't (just an example).

The point is, it is the Courts that are going to decide it, and just be glad that we have a conservative Supreme Court that rules in our favor all the time.
why don't you define "obscene" for me then? by gov't standards please... they won't tell you what is obscene but they will punish you for being obscene... i'm not trying to argue with you but you seem to refuse to belive that the current administration is on the war path to get rid of porn... i heard it straight from the horses mouth this morning... i believe what i heard and if the 2257 stuff isn't shot down then it is gonna get worse and worse... and the last time any of this was fought out in court the dems were in power and it was all different judges
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