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Old 05-07-2005, 05:44 AM   #1
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:mad Student suspended for 10 days over cell phone call from mother in Iraq

That is outrageous!! The poor kid has his mother risking her life for her country and her son is being treated like a criminal in the US for receiving a call from her while he was in school. That teacher and principal should be drop shipped in a desert for a year or 20. Humanity never ceases to infuriate me!

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Military mom's call leads to son's suspension
Superintendent says student 'became very belligerent'

Friday, May 6, 2005 Posted: 11:34 PM EDT (0334 GMT)

(CNN) -- A Columbus, Georgia, high school student has been suspended for 10 days after he became defiant when a teacher interrupted a cell phone conversation with his mother, who is stationed in Iraq, a school district official said Friday.

"He became very belligerent and very threatening to her" when asked to turn over the phone, Phillips said.

The teen, whom Muscogee County School District Superintendent John Phillips Jr., wouldn't name, did not tell the teacher he was talking to his mother in Iraq.

The Associated Press identified him as Kevin Francois.

"I'm sure if she was aware of that, she would have acted much differently in dealing with the matter," Phillips said.

The student received the call from Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates during a lunch break at Spencer High School.

"He said he was 17 years old and he would do what he wanted to do," Phillips told CNN-affiliate WTVM.

The teacher took him to the principal's office, where "he became very unruly and out of control," said Phillips. "It was escalating to a point where they were getting ready to call security."

The student lives with his guardian, an aunt, while his mother is deployed, the superintendent said. Both are to attend a meeting at the school Wednesday.

"We are endeavoring to have the young man readmitted after a three-day suspension, which was the first option for him. It was only after greater defiance and profanity that the suspension was extended," Phillips said.

The student knew it was against school policy to use a cell phone on school grounds, he added.

"We try to protect instructional time. We try to make sure the environment in the school is appropriate," Phillips said. "The young man knows what the rules and regulations are."

Phillips said the school, which is located near Fort Benning, often arranges for students to receive calls from parents who are deployed. More than 3,700 students in the district belong to military families.
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Old 05-07-2005, 05:47 AM   #2
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I originally read a different version of this story on AOL news:

COLUMBUS, Ga. (May 7) - A high school student was suspended for 10 days for refusing to end a mobile phone call with his mother, a soldier serving in Iraq, school officials said.

The 10-day suspension was issued because Kevin Francois was "defiant and disorderly'' and was imposed in lieu of an arrest, Spencer High School assistant principal Alfred Parham said.

The confrontation Wednesday began after the 17-year-old junior got a call at lunchtime from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion.

Mobile phones are allowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom.''

Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office.

"Kevin got defiant and disorderly,'' Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days.''


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He deserved it for acting like a jerk.
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NP there, he should of just said who he was talking to and not been a typical 17 year old idiot.
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If he was white y'all would have nothing negative to say...
How would you react if somebody wanted you to end a phone call with your MOTHER who is over in Iraq
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If he was white y'all would have nothing negative to say...
How would you react if somebody wanted you to end a phone call with your MOTHER who is over in Iraq
Yeah...it had nothing to do with the fact that he was being beligerant or threatening nor does it stem from the fact that he never mentioned that he was on the phone with his mother in Iraq. The teacher should have just read his mind or used some other kind of super hearing to listen in on the call. Instead, this poor black youth is being punished unjustly.


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He told the teachers he was on the phone with his mother in Iraq
The teacher told him to end the call now

So he probably told them to shut the fuck up
I would have done the exact same thing...

Teacher vs. Mom

Mom always wins
Fuck the teacher, the school district whatever
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Should of arrested the fucker, He probably stole the Cell phone anyway.
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I never understood the whole suspension thing, the more [time away from school] the merrier I always said.
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I just read they reduced the suspension to 3 days. Still fucked up tho
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they should have just hung him because he is black
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I don't see why students can't use their phones when on breaks...
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"the student knew it was against school policy to use a cell phone on school grounds"
WTF School grounds ? fucked up school
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A real heart warming story just in time for Mother's Day
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He should have just got up and left the classroom instead of making a scene
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Like I said in another thread. I would love to know what they think they can charge the kid with criminally. all he did was refuse to follow a teachers directions and hang up a phone.


That is fucked up.

In the other thread, Smokey posted the principals name phone and info.
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his mom will get shot or decapitated anyways

let her son talk to her while he still can
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NP there, he should of just said who he was talking to and not been a typical 17 year old idiot.
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"The student received the call from Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates during a lunch break at Spencer High School."

its on a lunch break, who fucking cares?
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"The student received the call from Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates during a lunch break at Spencer High School."

its on a lunch break, who fucking cares?
I don't. God knows I didn't listen to a thing anyone told me back then nor did I follow any rules. Point is he violated the rules and couldn't keep his composure or talk his way out of it.
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How would you react if somebody wanted you to end a phone call with your MOTHER who is over in Iraq
Give the fucking victim mentality a break for 5 minutes.
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well he is black so im sure that cell phone was stolen, not to mention, he was probably asking his mom where the crack rock stash in their project was so he could smoke up.
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Go to the school's website and get their side of the story. I'd suspend him too. Fuckin' moron kid.
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Go to the school's website and get their side of the story. I'd suspend him too. Fuckin' moron kid.
I'm sure it's not one sided, either.
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It's funny to see people "outraged" by this story.

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MUSCOGEE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT
COLUMBUS, GEORGIA


MEDIA RELEASE


MEDIA RELEASE FROM DR. JOHN A. PHILLIPS, JR..
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The Muscogee County School District has over 3700 military students enrolled. We have
a long and strong relationship with Ft. Benning. Spencer High School has the greatest
number of military students of any of our schools. All of our counselors have received
training in supporting students whose parents have been deployed, and military personnel
serve as Partners in Education in over half of our schools.

When the Spencer teacher approached the young man about using a cell phone on
campus, contrary to Board of Education policy which is designed to preserve
instructional time and decorum in our schools, the young man did not tell the teacher he
was speaking to his mother in Iraq. He indicated he would not comply with a request to
turn over his cell phone and used profanity. The teacher escorted the young man to the
office, where assistant principals tried to get him to calm himself and to cease the use of
profanity. It was only at this point that administrators learned he was talking to his
mother in Iraq.

The Guidance Department at Spencer High School has arranged for a number of students
to receive calls from parents who are deployed. They would have been happy to do this
for this young man. The issue here was not so much the use of the cell phone as it was
the choices the young man made in handling the situation. We are empathetic to all
students whose parents serve in the armed forces; we do have behavior standards which
we uphold.

The school has been in touch with personnel from Ft. Benning. We are endeavoring to
have the young man readmitted after a three day suspension, which was the first option
for him. It was only after greater defiance and profanity that the suspension was
extended. We will ask that the student and his guardian sign a behavior contract
indicating that he will comply with the same standards of behavior which apply to all of
our students. We will continue to be sensitive to the needs of students whose parents
serve our country.

06 May 2005

Contact: Dr. Billy Kendall ? (706) 649-0514 ? [email protected]
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Looks like another one of our youth who has not been taught social skills, or critical thinking skills. Suspend his punk ass.
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Why this story outrages me: It's so typically narrow minded American. I don't know where a lot of you people come from, but where I come from, our schools/teachers would have gone above and beyond to make provisions for a student whose parent(s) was in Iraq and calling them. There's this student's side of the story, the school's side of the story, and the truth. Just reading the 2 versions above, you can see they are both biased.

This isn't about a young man being insubordinent. This is about adult's using poor judgement. There's a thing called discretion and if any teacher or principal on that staff had half a brain they would have never let something like this escalate to national news. Lets pretend for a moment that this kid was rude, breaking the rules, didn't tell the teacher it was his mother calling from Iraq, etc etc... surely after finding out that it was his mother, they SHOULD have looked the other way and not given this kid more grief than he already has. Your mother is in Iraq, you won't see her for a year, she's risking her life, and you're getting national news coverage because you received a phone call from her during LUNCH while you were in school. Ridiculous!

This country and people in this country make mountains out of mole hills. We put so much time and effort into nonsense and less important things. Osama bin Laden roams around the world free... but FEAR NOT! We have a teenager and his cell phone abuse under control
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Why this story outrages me: It's so typically narrow minded American. I don't know where a lot of you people come from, but where I come from, our schools/teachers would have gone above and beyond to make provisions for a student whose parent(s) was in Iraq and calling them. There's this student's side of the story, the school's side of the story, and the truth. Just reading the 2 versions above, you can see they are both biased.

This isn't about a young man being insubordinent. This is about adult's using poor judgement. There's a thing called discretion and if any teacher or principal on that staff had half a brain they would have never let something like this escalate to national news. Lets pretend for a moment that this kid was rude, breaking the rules, didn't tell the teacher it was his mother calling from Iraq, etc etc... surely after finding out that it was his mother, they SHOULD have looked the other way and not given this kid more grief than he already has. Your mother is in Iraq, you won't see her for a year, she's risking her life, and you're getting national news coverage because you received a phone call from her during LUNCH while you were in school. Ridiculous!

This country and people in this country make mountains out of mole hills. We put so much time and effort into nonsense and less important things. Osama bin Laden roams around the world free... but FEAR NOT! We have a teenager and his cell phone abuse under control

Way to wrap it up, i think this is over hyped, but hey, another bullshit for me to write about on my blog.
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Why this story outrages me: It's so typically narrow minded American. I don't know where a lot of you people come from, but where I come from, our schools/teachers would have gone above and beyond to make provisions for a student whose parent(s) was in Iraq and calling them. There's this student's side of the story, the school's side of the story, and the truth. Just reading the 2 versions above, you can see they are both biased.

This isn't about a young man being insubordinent. This is about adult's using poor judgement. There's a thing called discretion and if any teacher or principal on that staff had half a brain they would have never let something like this escalate to national news. Lets pretend for a moment that this kid was rude, breaking the rules, didn't tell the teacher it was his mother calling from Iraq, etc etc... surely after finding out that it was his mother, they SHOULD have looked the other way and not given this kid more grief than he already has. Your mother is in Iraq, you won't see her for a year, she's risking her life, and you're getting national news coverage because you received a phone call from her during LUNCH while you were in school. Ridiculous!

This country and people in this country make mountains out of mole hills. We put so much time and effort into nonsense and less important things. Osama bin Laden roams around the world free... but FEAR NOT! We have a teenager and his cell phone abuse under control

Yeah let's let the kid get away with shit because his mother is in Iraq.
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:47 AM   #44
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Yeah let's let the kid get away with shit because his mother is in Iraq.
You're not a real patriot if you don't let precocious little fucks swear at you when you ask them to comply with school policy if their parents are in Iraq and you're not psychic enough to know who's on the phone when the little cocksucker is giving you grief... Duh.
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That kid should tell them people to go suck on some balls and find a better place to get an education.
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Fuck... GFY could put that kid into the bombest mother fuckin private school in the country... then again, so can the Army... I say drop out, get the GED, take the signup bonus and join Mom...
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Okay yes the 17yr old was an idiot to get all defence but honestly now come on, your seperated from your mom, you get a call, of course your going to get mad when they try to take it from you, and teachers these days dont ask whats going on they demand it. So this kid probley had no chance to tell the teacher shit. You all would of acted the same way, this kid had a reason to be mad. 10 days is a bit much.
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Old 05-08-2005, 05:21 AM   #50
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-the teacher didn't know who the kid was talking to; the kid didn't tell the teacher who he was talking to
-phones aren't allowed on school grounds at that school (whether it should be or not is a different issue... it's not allowed apparently at this school and the kid knew it).

The teacher made the right decision based on what the teacher knew.

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