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Old 05-02-2005, 11:58 AM   #1
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Jon used the GFY Challenege to SCAM me and Machine Gun Kelly out of thousands of.....

On April 11th Jon with AWStuff, Gallery Serve and The GFY Challenge ICQ'd me to see if I was interested in advertising in the GFY Challenge. After getting some info from him and talking to him on the phone it sounded like a great deal. He promised I would be the only host allowed to advertise and that he would throw in some free advertising at the Montreal show as well.

The next day, April 12th, I spoke with Jon 3 times on the phone. Once to confirm Western Union payment of $2,000, another time to confirm his address, and a 3rd time to confirm that he he received the money. After April 12th I contacted Jon numerous times VIA email, ICQ, and phone. I left him 5 voice mail messages and then yesterday, May 1st, both phone numbers for him were disconnected. I have not heard from Jon since April 12th.

He promised Machine Gun Kelly $1,000 to design the website and never paid. Machine Gun Kelly spoke with Jon numerous times, but has not heard from him in the last two weeks and neither have I.

We both felt with the people who were backing this challenge it had to be legit, but we got scammed.

Why do we think we got scammed?

The last time I talked to Jon was when he was picking up the money at Western Union. After that he never replied to me. As of May 1 both of his phone numbers were disconnected. He has been off of ICQ and the boards for over almost 3 weeks.

Jon took me for $2,000 and promised Machine Gun Kelly $1,000.

Here is the contact information we have for him. If you have ANY contact information for him please leave it here or contact me as I would like to contact him.

Jonathon Rube
1206 Bringle Ferry Rd.
Salisbury, NC 28144

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If anyone else got scammed by Jon please notify me. We are putting something together.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:59 AM   #2
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:01 PM   #3
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that sucks but also lame... I mean, not the grandest idea in the world, but he really could have scammed more money. If his intention was to start this thing, scam sponsors and disappear... he could have gotten a lot more.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:03 PM   #4
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that sucks but also lame... I mean, not the grandest idea in the world, but he really could have scammed more money. If his intention was to start this thing, scam sponsors and disappear... he could have gotten a lot more.
I would agree. We've given him 3 weeks, he hasn't contacted us and BOTH of his phone numbers have been disconnected. Those were pretty strong signs to us that he did not plan on following through, prompting us to take action.
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Foookin scammers.

MachineGunKelly wouldnt post this himself I bet. He is to nice. I told MGK to tear that scammer a new ass last week.

MachineGUnKelly is a great designer and really nice guy and I am glad Hostive finally said somthing.
I approve of this thread.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:06 PM   #7
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I would agree. We've given him 3 weeks, he hasn't contacted us and BOTH of his phone numbers have been disconnected. Those were pretty strong signs to us that he did not plan on following through, prompting us to take action.
That's what I was thinking. Would it be worth it all the trouble for that amount?
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wow that sucks ass!!!!!!!! I was wondering what happened to it
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:07 PM   #9
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Wasn't he doing work for somebody? Maybe you could contact them, they may be having similar troubles or at least know what's going on.

Good luck.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:08 PM   #11
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That's what I was thinking. Would it be worth it all the trouble for that amount?
That's what I don't understand. Why do all of this for $2,000? It just doensn't seem worth it to me, but we've given him a lot of time and have been very accomodating up to this point.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:08 PM   #12
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He promised Machine Gun Kelly $1,000 to design the website and never paid. Machine Gun Kelly spoke with Jon numerous times, but has not heard from him in the last two weeks and neither have I.

We both felt with the people who were backing this challenge it had to be legit, but we got scammed.
Yep , thats the case .
Jon Contacted me and I told him I wouldn't work before being paid .

Anyway one way or another I was convinced to start once I saw lensman and ADULT.com were backing it .

I was supposed to recieve my payment of $1000 the day hostive sent his off ..

No one has heard from him since .
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:10 PM   #13
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Well I can attest to the fact MGK and Hostive have been pretty throrough in looking for Jon. They both didn't want to say anything until today.

Jon is you can read this go to your local 7-11 and call the police with the kidnapping story... oops sorry getting threads confused here.

For real though Jon if you are seeing this you need to contact these guys and straighten it out.

A lot of people backed you on this project and wanted to see it followed through ... many of us were waiting to see the challenge happen.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:11 PM   #14
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is this the guy that posts as "Jon"? Been around for a long time if so, suprising he would kill his name for $3k.
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That's what I don't understand. Why do all of this for $2,000? It just doensn't seem worth it to me, but we've given him a lot of time and have been very accomodating up to this point.
Well it he may have not set out to scam anyone but something happend and he just said fuck it and took it.. Could be I dunno.

Either way sorry to hear Ive been scammed in the past it sucks.
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This isn't surprising at all, this jon dude has been a loser for years, always has a ton of Ideas, but is nothing more than then a broke board whore
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maybe something happened to him? I know Jon just from boards, but I'm a bit surprised on this. On the other hand I understand your worries.
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maybe something happened to him? I know Jon just from boards, but I'm a bit surprised on this. On the other hand I understand your worries.
I thought something may have happened to him at first, also. That's why I gave him so much time. I left him numerous voice mail messages in hopes that if something did happen to him someone related to him or close to him would check the messages and reply. When BOTH of his phone numbers were disconnected that was a sign to us that he was scamming.
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is this the guy that posts as "Jon"? Been around for a long time if so, suprising he would kill his name for $3k.

$3k thats being reported so far. Jon stated before he had $5k of prize money built up from sponsors too.

So the plot could thicken very soon I am thinking.
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This sucks bigtime.... I hope he shows his face and pays
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maybe something happened to him? I know Jon just from boards, but I'm a bit surprised on this. On the other hand I understand your worries.
I questioned that myself .
BUT , you gotta admit Western Union isnt exactly the bermuda triangle

HE was supposed to pay me from WU the day he was there to pick up the money ........... So when did it happen ?
Did he pick up the money then get shot before he could send mine ?
Doesnt add up .

We know he picked up the money .. but never paid me which would've been 5 minutes later ,

My Guess seeing a few K on the table and he decided to boogie

Jon was very available until that day he picked up payment then he disappeared .

I slow released the design cause I became suspicious ,
so he actually never ended up getting the full version or the flyers etc he ordered but they are done and I even turned down a bunch of you for that week cause I was supposed to be so busy with this GFY challenge stuff ..

guess all I have now is a reminder why I started charging upfront .... and I'm gonna be twice as strict now .
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This sucks bigtime.... I hope he shows his face and pays
Me too....
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Well take this as a formal resignation of me being a Judge in the gfychallenge,....

Not cool at all Jon
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I wonder if he took money from other sponsors as well.
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Well take this as a formal resignation of me being a Judge in the gfychallenge,....

Not cool at all Jon
Nope.... he made a lot of promises to a lot of people.

If you got screwed too, post here please!!!

Here is the link to the other post where Jon praised MGK for his design...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=454060

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machinegunkelly please email me your info- need a custom toon logo for a section of nicolelenz.com please.
If you need it soon , I can't help
I'm booking for about 2 weeks from now , and I'm a little delayed now as I have been on dial up for almost 2 weeks now :P


Email me [email protected] and I'll see what I can do for you .
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Looks like someone has himself a new big screen tv and hookers for a night.
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If you need it soon , I can't help
I'm booking for about 2 weeks from now , and I'm a little delayed now as I have been on dial up for almost 2 weeks now :P


Email me [email protected] and I'll see what I can do for you .
2 weeks is fine, will email you when i get back from my lunch meeting with our patent firm.
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Well take this as a formal resignation of me being a Judge in the gfychallenge,....

Not cool at all Jon
Good move Juicy .

Part of the reason I think myself and hostive were so trusting of this guy was all the names attached to it ..

Sure I didnt know Jon , but he just told me don't worry lensman, Juicy etc were involved , you're gonna get paid , and sure as shit I bought it ..
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Looks like someone has himself a new big screen tv and hookers for a night.
I hope he kept his receipt for the tv....
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I have now is a reminder why I started charging upfront .... and I'm gonna be twice as strict now .
At least always go half up front.
Sometimes full.

Oh...
And never never take money until the client is locked in with a date.

These days it seems some of the most surprising people and companies are burning designers, the shit's goto stop. Funny thing is most companies are not shit if they don;t got a decent designer yet content pinching designers all the time.

Sorry MGK that this happened bro.
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When he runs out of crack, booze, and money and sobers up you will hear from him again.
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That's interesting, that is also Private Ivy's address.
I live within 30 minutes from there.
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doesn't make sense to me why people would scam someone for a few thousand dollars. makes zero sense to me.

if you are gonna blackball yourself from the industry why not do it for 2-3-5 mil like some others in the past have?

2k to ruin your name is just dumb in my book.
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Damn..... I only knew him from the board but I got a good vibe from the guy

Could have been a panic thing.... he found himself with a handfull of cash and a pretty risky venture, maybe he just felt out of his depth. If he had no real roots where he was its pretty ez to go missing.

Hope he is OK.... but if it was a scam I hope he rots in hell.
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That's interesting, that is also Private Ivy's address.
I live within 30 minutes from there.

Not the same address. Same town but not the same address.
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Good move Juicy .

Part of the reason I think myself and hostive were so trusting of this guy was all the names attached to it ..

Sure I didnt know Jon , but he just told me don't worry lensman, Juicy etc were involved , you're gonna get paid , and sure as shit I bought it ..
Lensman's involvement = "Sure, go ahead with the contest."
Juicy's involvement = Being a judge.

Am I right?

Not quite "involvement", if you ask me.
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thats fucked up, hope u guys get this resolved soon. kel, glad to see yer still alive whats shakin (aside from the obvious)
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I always said he sucked. Looked at my previous posts. But everyone thought he was soooo cool. Fact is, everything Jon starts/setups fails. His host, his freehosting, his resource site and everything else
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:58 PM   #49
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Lensman's involvement = "Sure, go ahead with the contest."
Juicy's involvement = Being a judge.

Am I right?

Not quite "involvement", if you ask me.

Yeah ,

Just seemed to me with all the names involved , the sticky threads on GFY etc that it was legit so I went ahead with it .
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:58 PM   #50
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Not saying Jon is an asshole. Just saying as "business" man he sucks
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