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shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:08 PM

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read this shit

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

A human brain is pretty much hardwired near the age of 12 (or before?); meaning the synaptic connections that will be made are made - so says some programming teacher I had. Everything thought, conclusion, etc. after that age must be learned and will not be hardwired into your consciousness.

From having a mother, she a middle child in her family, who's been diagnosed with fibromyalgia, I think most "psychosomatic" illnesses are self created and the psychology and pharmaceutical professions only proliferate from it. I'm 100% confident my mother creates the "pain" in her life - not enough attention, feelings of alienation / worthlessness albeit the amount of time she spends helping family, etc. - are brought on by her and her alone.

In my opinion, unless you're a serious case who's taking knives to people one day and hugging them the next, I'd say your condition is created by yourself. From what I read, you post quality and mostly up-beat thoughts, indicative by no serious mental instability like some others who post here. I'm no shrink, I make no declarations that what I say are legitimate in any medical / psychological sense. I just think if you, in all reality, went to the local gardener and smelled the roses now and again while trying to seriously address things in your life causing you problems, it may help. Drug free.

But you see, before I was on the meds, I WAS violent one minute and serene the next. those who know me well can attest to that.

The psychosomatic issues are usually brought on by the strange wirings in one's head. The need for more attention, the fear, the anger...all of that comes from one's brain, intentionally or not. And surely, those who aren't intentionally doing it need help, just as much as those who are intentionally doing it. If someone is intentionally coming off as a poor pity me, attention-whore, always sick, etc. person, wouldn't YOU think he or she was in need of some mental help?

bangman · 04-02-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

I agree that the reason why doctors prescribe the drugs is due to an imbalance in the brain but the drugs actually do not help it. The reason for the initial imbalance is due to a multitude of things that I can not diagnose via a board thread nor should I as I am not qualified. I guarantee you that you could solve the imbalance through methods described in the book. The author Sherrie Rogers M.D. goes on in detail about all these ailments and more in her books.

https://secure.dreamscape.com/presti..._web_store.cgi

She sure does have the array of self-help books. Thanks for the link.

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

Bingo!

Almost 100% of the time the cause is environmental. A nutrient or mineral deficency. Alergic reaction or chemical sensitivity to any of the thousands of chemicals in the air, water and food we eat

don't make me fucking laugh

this is tolal BS

ULVideo · 04-02-2005, 12:12 PM

I've been involved with a few women who were true Bipolar (hey, when they are in the right part of their cycle, they are sex machines). The single biggest problem I can attest to is that it's very hard to get someone who is in an "up cycle" to go on the correct meds, because who wants to take meds which will dull all the "up" stuff? Then, they crash, and it's touch to get them to take the proper meds because they are so "down". Bipolar disorder needs to be dealt with usings proper meds (one woman I saw tried to claim she was using one of the diet aids - ephedra based - to control it. I couldn't find one doctor who agreed with this course).

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Tala, whats your cause for depression ?

Are you talking about the physical cause, (which I've explained already), or an external trigger?

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz

right on man

drugs are not the fuckin answer

the statistics on people taking drugs in countries liek usa,uk,canada & aust are frightening - noone can cope with ANYTHING anymore - there is a pill for every little ailment you can think of - it really is pathetic

yep, and the greedy jew doctors are very happy to leach hundreds of dollars every months from these people

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:12 PM

It will amaze you the stuff that is written in these books. There is a wealth of information in there. Anyone can take advantage of these protocals. It all boils down to trying to make the body clean and pure. It is no coincidence that we have the highest rates of cancer and are in the most industrialized era of the world. Trust me big companies are killing us and making tons of money doing it. I am not trying to go all green peace and hippie on you but the food we eat and water we drink is killing us along with thousands of other problems

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tala

Are you talking about the physical cause, (which I've explained already), or an external trigger?

I don't know. What are you depressed about ?

CDSmith · 04-02-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

In that case yes, some drugs are in order.

But it amazes me that every second American is hooked up on some kind of shit.

I suppose we are arguing two different sides of the issue here. You are focused on the idiots who run to the pharmacy every time a dish breaks, whereas I am talking about those who legitimately need treatment. We are both right.

I agree that there are too many people who reach for the happy candy ever time they feel sad. If only it were that simple for everyone, but it isn't. Exercising more doesn't cure an overabundance of seratonin, for example. I don't know why you think it would. You should not be attacking people who are trying their best to deal with clinical depression dude.

As to situational depression like I had, that is the one where there is the most if not ALL of the abuse and laziness you're describing, and that's where you and I agree. I can only speak for myself and from what I've seen in other cases I know of. For me it worked, my doctors all thought I legitimately needed it for a time, and I've long-since moved on with life.

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

don't make me fucking laugh

this is tolal BS

read the books along with the thousands of medical studies quoted, and by the way these are not studies paid for by pharma companies either.

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bangman

She sure does have the array of self-help books. Thanks for the link.

They are quasi professional and lay persons literature. Meant to educate the doctors and the patients.

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

I suppose we are arguing two different sides of the issue here. You are focused on the idiots who run to the pharmacy every time a dish breaks, whereas I am talking about those who legitimately need treatment. We are both right.

I agree that there are too many people who reach for the happy candy ever time they feel sad. If only it were that simple for everyone, but it isn't. Exercising more doesn't cure an overabundance of seratonin, for example. I don't know why you think it would. You should not be attacking people who are trying their best to deal with clinical depression dude.

As to situational depression like I had, that is the one where there is the most if not ALL of the abuse and laziness you're describing, and that's where you and I agree. I can only speak for myself and from what I've seen in other cases I know of. For me it worked, my doctors all thought I legitimately needed it for a time, and I've long-since moved on with life.

yes, thats what i'm talking about.
everyone seems on some kind of antidepressant drug these days.

if you have a serious mental problems, of course drugs can help.
but if are depressed because you have a shitty job or a fat ass, you don't need drugs.

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

I don't know. What are you depressed about ?

It sounds like you're talking about triggers. Okay.

ANYTHING can be a trigger. I can cry over the fact that my cat just meowed. I'm serious.

I have a lot of stressors going on right now, but honestly, I don't find myself depressed as deeply as I used to get. I can see the bright instead of the dark now.

It's very difficult to say what triggers my mood swings. Sometimes it's even the lack of a trigger that becomes a trigger. There is no one thing, Dark Jedi.

BlueQuartz · 04-02-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

yep, and the greedy jew doctors are very happy to leach hundreds of dollars every months from these people

indeed

dr's are just legalized drug dealers

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

They are quasi professional and lay persons literature. Meant to educate the doctors and the patients.

I dont need to read books to know that mental disorders DO NOT come from a "nutrient or mineral deficency" or "alergic reaction or chemical sensitivity to any of the thousands of chemicals in the air, water and food"

brilsmurf · 04-02-2005, 12:19 PM

wow i had t difficult to read! shorten it up a bit

psili · 04-02-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tala

But you see, before I was on the meds, I WAS violent one minute and serene the next. those who know me well can attest to that.

The psychosomatic issues are usually brought on by the strange wirings in one's head. The need for more attention, the fear, the anger...all of that comes from one's brain, intentionally or not. And surely, those who aren't intentionally doing it need help, just as much as those who are intentionally doing it. If someone is intentionally coming off as a poor pity me, attention-whore, always sick, etc. person, wouldn't YOU think he or she was in need of some mental help?

I've read other's peoples' posts who validate that drugs can actually help. And I'm not saying they can't. Hell, antibiotics were a godsend to humans. However, now they're overly abused and in many cases make the immune system weaker to newer strains of infection.

In your case, I'd stay on the meds if you think it makes you feel better, if that's what YOU feel is right. However, you started a thread asking the question how to cope; meaning you're not sure if your current path of therapy is the right way.

And judging from what you just wrote (if I'm wrong, forgive me), your mental state predates pubescence and is caused by early life trauma (in one way or another; upbringing / environment, etc.). In either case, all it may take is coming to terms with something horrible. Admitting it happened / apologizing to someone who caused you harm, voicing out loud things that wholly bind your soul into tension may help.

Again, I know not your situation or where you've been or are at. It's just my $.02.

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:20 PM

In the words of Sherrie Rogers M.D.

"As you will see, there is a BIOCHEMICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL TRIGGER OR CAUSE FOR MOST ALL problems of mal-health."

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

I dont need to read books to know that mental disorders DO NOT come from a "nutrient or mineral deficency" or "alergic reaction or chemical sensitivity to any of the thousands of chemicals in the air, water and food"

So you are a doctor then

BlueQuartz · 04-02-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tala

It sounds like you're talking about triggers. Okay.

ANYTHING can be a trigger. I can cry over the fact that my cat just meowed. I'm serious.

I have a lot of stressors going on right now, but honestly, I don't find myself depressed as deeply as I used to get. I can see the bright instead of the dark now.

It's very difficult to say what triggers my mood swings. Sometimes it's even the lack of a trigger that becomes a trigger. There is no one thing, Dark Jedi.

the lack of a trigger is a trigger?????

just like i said - people who have nothing serious to worry about

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

yep, and the greedy jew doctors are very happy to leach hundreds of dollars every months from these people

looks like you have your own inner problems to deal with

kenny · 04-02-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

I suppose we are arguing two different sides of the issue here. You are focused on the idiots who run to the pharmacy every time a dish breaks, whereas I am talking about those who legitimately need treatment. We are both right.

I agree that there are too many people who reach for the happy candy ever time they feel sad. If only it were that simple for everyone, but it isn't. Exercising more doesn't cure an overabundance of seratonin, for example. I don't know why you think it would. You should not be attacking people who are trying their best to deal with clinical depression dude.

As to situational depression like I had, that is the one where there is the most if not ALL of the abuse and laziness you're describing, and that's where you and I agree. I can only speak for myself and from what I've seen in other cases I know of. For me it worked, my doctors all thought I legitimately needed it for a time, and I've long-since moved on with life.

I agree.

However, bipolar disorder is far from a typical average depression.

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tala

It sounds like you're talking about triggers. Okay.

ANYTHING can be a trigger. I can cry over the fact that my cat just meowed. I'm serious.

I have a lot of stressors going on right now, but honestly, I don't find myself depressed as deeply as I used to get. I can see the bright instead of the dark now.

It's very difficult to say what triggers my mood swings. Sometimes it's even the lack of a trigger that becomes a trigger. There is no one thing, Dark Jedi.

Thats fucked up indeed.

Though I personally feel that you're just overreacting, getting too fixated on it and just pitying yourself. Posting on gfy - you sound very rational and mentally stable. I don't believe a trully sick person can act this way. Therefore, i think you're not sick (just need to accept reality for what it is)

BlueQuartz · 04-02-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

I've read other's peoples' posts who validate that drugs can actually help. And I'm not saying they can't. Hell, antibiotics were a godsend to humans. However, now they're overly abused and in many cases make the immune system weaker to newer strains of infection.

In your case, I'd stay on the meds if you think it makes you feel better, if that's what YOU feel is right. However, you started a thread asking the question how to cope; meaning you're not sure if your current path of therapy is the right way.

And judging from what you just wrote (if I'm wrong, forgive me), your mental state predates pubescence and is caused by early life trauma (in one way or another; upbringing / environment, etc.). In either case, all it may take is coming to terms with something horrible. Admitting it happened / apologizing to someone who caused you harm, voicing out loud things that wholly bind your soul into tension may help.

Again, I know not your situation or where you've been or are at. It's just my $.02.

nicely said

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

I've read other's peoples' posts who validate that drugs can actually help. And I'm not saying they can't. Hell, antibiotics were a godsend to humans. However, now they're overly abused and in many cases make the immune system weaker to newer strains of infection.

In your case, I'd stay on the meds if you think it makes you feel better, if that's what YOU feel is right. However, you started a thread asking the question how to cope; meaning you're not sure if your current path of therapy is the right way.

And judging from what you just wrote (if I'm wrong, forgive me), your mental state predates pubescence and is caused by early life trauma (in one way or another; upbringing / environment, etc.). In either case, all it may take is coming to terms with something horrible. Admitting it happened / apologizing to someone who caused you harm, voicing out loud things that wholly bind your soul into tension may help.

Again, I know not your situation or where you've been or are at. It's just my $.02.

I don't doubt that it predates pubescence at all, considering my parentage. *Let's NOT get into that* Suffice it to say, my childhood had a great many ups and downs, and I wish my mother had never been a part of it.

But that's behind me now. I have talked about it and worked through some things, made my peace with some and am working on making peace with myself. I miss my grandmother very much - for all intents and purposes, she was my mom. Thank goodness for her.

Longer story short, I'll be dealing with that for the rest of my life, I'm sure. There are some things that time doesn't heal.

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueQuartz

the lack of a trigger is a trigger?????

just like i said - people who have nothing serious to worry about

Oh believe me, I have plenty of serious things to worry about. But occasionally, the lack of a trigger is a trigger, though now I am starting to recognize it and prevent it. Hooray for therapy!

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

So you are a doctor then

I have some basic training in Tibetan medicine.
I can tell you that mental problems come from inner energy imballances. And can be treated without drugs.

klinton · 04-02-2005, 12:31 PM

:-)

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Thats fucked up indeed.

Though I personally feel that you're just overreacting, getting too fixated on it and just pitying yourself. Posting on gfy - you sound very rational and mentally stable. I don't believe a trully sick person can act this way. Therefore, i think you're not sick (just need to accept reality for what it is)

Does not everyone have his own version of reality?

I may well be overreacting and pitying myself. But honestly, I don't feel as though I'm doing either one. I feel like this is just the way I live - my version of reality.

I'm still learning what it means to accept things as they are, or to change things that I don't want. I'm not as sick as some, thankfully, but I am sick enough to need help. So I'm getting it. I may never fully heal, but I am getting better.

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

I have some basic training in Tibetan medicine.
I can tell you that mental problems come from inner energy imballances. And can be treated without drugs.

Thats exactly what I am saying too. I disagree with drugs. As a practioner of tibetan medicine you of all people should be aware of the environment and how linked we humans are to it. The earth is being poluted as are our bodies. The bodies natural response to these is to let you know that something is wrong with it. It can manifest itself in the form of a headache, highblood pressure, diabetes etc.

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

I have some basic training in Tibetan medicine.
I can tell you that mental problems come from inner energy imballances. And can be treated without drugs.

Also aren't the tibetan people a peaceful group who are persecuted. I don't know many tibetans that are anti semetic. stay on topic and leave your slurs out of this.

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

Also aren't the tibetan people a peaceful group who are persecuted. I don't know many tibetans that are anti semetic. stay on topic and leave your slurs out of this.

WTF was all that about?

psili · 04-02-2005, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tala

I don't doubt that it predates pubescence at all, considering my parentage. *Let's NOT get into that* Suffice it to say, my childhood had a great many ups and downs, and I wish my mother had never been a part of it.

But that's behind me now. I have talked about it and worked through some things, made my peace with some and am working on making peace with myself. I miss my grandmother very much - for all intents and purposes, she was my mom. Thank goodness for her.

Longer story short, I'll be dealing with that for the rest of my life, I'm sure. There are some things that time doesn't heal.

I hope I never post this link again, but look at http://landmarkeducation.com/ . Whatever anybody says about that course; I let my boss talk me into it and even the company paid for the first class (kind of like vacation from work, was what I thought), it helped many things in my life. I even paid for two more classes and ended up pussing out through the third curriculum, because I couldn't come to terms with being myself.

Again, I think you can find solace without drugs. But you're reading words from a kid who's mom refused to feed him Ritalin and instead took out sugar, food coloring and preservatives from his early diet and thus fucked him out of wanting to eat yummy candy like his wife loves to eat. *shrug* and a *smile*. So again, my outlook on drugs to treat many psychosomatic / psychological disorders is biased.

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tala

WTF was all that about?

Read above. It is in response to DJ's anti-Semitic remarks.

CDSmith · 04-02-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny

I agree.

However, bipolar disorder is far from a typical average depression.

That would fall into the category of clinical depression I mentioned.

It's a complicated issue to discuss because of the two distinct types. On one side you have people who are afflicted with certain brain imbalances and disorders who need treatment, while on the other side you have a few people who have a legitimate problem surrounded by millions who choose to abuse and rely on the drugs when they could very well otherwise cope just by changing their lifestyles and mindsets.

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

I hope I never post this link again, but look at http://landmarkeducation.com/ . Whatever anybody says about that course; I let my boss talk me into it and even the company paid for the first class (kind of like vacation from work, was what I thought), it helped many things in my life. I even paid for two more classes and ended up pussing out through the third curriculum, because I couldn't come to terms with being myself.

Again, I think you can find solace without drugs. But you're reading words from a kid who's mom refused to feed him Ritalin and instead took out sugar, food coloring and preservatives from his early diet and thus fucked him out of wanting to eat yummy candy like his wife loves to eat. *shrug* and a *smile*. So again, my outlook on drugs to treat many psychosomatic / psychological disorders is biased.

I think CET was on that diet too...the Feingold Diet? I'm not sure I'd want to try that, LOL - I have a sweet tooth from hell!

Thank you for the link; I'm looking at it now.

shuki · 04-02-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tala

I think CET was on that diet too...the Feingold Diet? I'm not sure I'd want to try that, LOL - I have a sweet tooth from hell!

Thank you for the link; I'm looking at it now.

what if it cured you?

Still want to eat sweets?

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

Thats exactly what I am saying too. I disagree with drugs. As a practioner of tibetan medicine you of all people should be aware of the environment and how linked we humans are to it. The earth is being poluted as are our bodies. The bodies natural response to these is to let you know that something is wrong with it. It can manifest itself in the form of a headache, highblood pressure, diabetes etc.

Yes all these things matter but not as much as say working during the night, sleeping during the day and and spending most of your time infront of a monitor. Of cource these things will fuck your head up. When you live this kind of life, your body just can't function right.

DarkJedi · 04-02-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

Also aren't the tibetan people a peaceful group who are persecuted. I don't know many tibetans that are anti semetic. stay on topic and leave your slurs out of this.

LOL. Again you're comparing apples to oranges.

Tibetans are peaceful people who just mind their own business and get put down by chinese.

Jews on the other hand dominate the world and me calling them greedy =| antisemitic.

Tala · 04-02-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shuki

what if it cured you?

Still want to eat sweets?

What if it did, but because I've become accustomed to the taste of sweets I became miserable? Would that not defeat the purpose?

As much as I would love to honestly say, "Hell yes, I'd do it!" I know for a fact that I wouldn't stay on it. Why should I lie to myself just to bring myself more pain?

So yes, I'd still want to eat sweets. If it cured me, hooray! I'd go celebrate with cake and ice cream.

There are some steps that I know I'm not ready to take yet, and that's one of them. Maybe I'll get there someday, but right now, I'm not yet ready for a step that big. Baby steps first, then walking, then running.

Furious_Female · 04-02-2005, 01:02 PM

I'm tripolar

Well, definitely bipolar... even though I've never been officially diagnosed. I know that I am. I have all the symptoms. My original handle was actually "moody". All I know is that I go from extreme highs to lows on a daily basis and anything can trigger a certain mood. I get really happy and "high on life", euphoric even, for a very short period of time, then something usually something really insignificant will make me cry and I'll be depressed for the rest of the day.

The thing is, I don't feel my depression is just a chemical imbalance. There really are underlying causes/reasons for the way I feel and think. I just don't bounce out of it or ignore it like a lot of people would. My problem is I can't stop thinking. I remember too much and dwell on things too much. They say ignorance is bliss, so I think "normal", happy people just don't remember why their life sucks lol.

Anyway, I'm against any and all mind altering medications. Whether it's Prozac or something stronger, I refuse to take any. I don't believe in taking most medicines. They are dangerous and usually end up causing worse problems than what you have already. I would rather go through life being moody than live in a cloud world or artifically change my mind.

websiex · 04-02-2005, 01:03 PM

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Jews on the other hand dominate the world and me calling them greedy =| antisemitic.

Whew, my head is spinning with your ignorant comments. Lets look at some basic logic here. Firstly, you think that drugs aren't needed for mental disorders, even though the drug thorazine literally cleared mental hospitals of patients, because it made these people think in reality again. It is actually quite astounding and I suggest you read up on it. There were people who were living in completely different worlds, and thorazine made them function as regular individuals that can hold steady jobs.

Whew, you seem to be twisting in the wind on a lot of the issues on this forum.

Tala · 04-02-2005, 01:12 PM

I have to say, this thread turned out to be much more interesting than I thought it would be. Thanks.

quant · 04-02-2005, 01:38 PM

Drugs rarely cure any disease. However, drugs can save your life.

I don't believe in taking any drug, psychotropic or not, daily just to live. I would seek out a more holistic approach and try to determine the root cause of it. Pills can make you happy, but so can success by hard work and a stable meaningful life. Clearly the happiness in the former is not equal to the latter. Homeostasis and serenity doesn't come easy.

I would think most people have no true desire or ambition to change their life and thus succumb to the notion that things will always be how they are. Personally I am disgusted by the concept of little kids on psychotropic drugs and doctors force feeding damaging chemicals to desperate patients while collecting kickbacks. If anyone knows anything about drug abuse, you'll know that psychotropic drugs are the most harmful and addictive known to man (i.e. barbiturates such as Xanax).

I would highly suggest you watch the movie, What the Bleep Do We Know? It has many profound moments and illustrates clearly what addiction is while enlightening you to the true power you and your thoughts have. Stuart Hameroff (associate of Roger Penrose) is in it. The website is at: http://whatthebleep.com/scientists/ and the torrents are at: http://www.mininova.org/search/?sear...eep+do+we+know

If you do take psychtropic drugs, you should definitely try to find time to watch the movie. Good luck.

Ron · 04-02-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

yes, thats what i'm talking about.
everyone seems on some kind of antidepressant drug these days.

if you have a serious mental problems, of course drugs can help.
but if are depressed because you have a shitty job or a fat ass, you don't need drugs.

I must agree with this.. If youre depressed about shitty job, fat ass, bad color of your car of a girlfriend who left you dont need meds.

But if youre depressed without any reason you need. I have personality disorder (Schizotypic and paranoia) and without reason my mood changes within a second from "quit normal" to real depressed.
I had prozac what stabilized it some, now i have risperdal for my semic pshychotic (hope this is right word) symptomes.

Offcourse i can without meds, but then im a real horror for people i care about (if i care about anything when im depressed but okay).

And yes, i do go out of the house, i do my job, i do walk a lot.. but it doesnt help shit...

So no, not everyone needs meds, but some need them to make their life a little bit better..

Just my 2 cts..

Regards,

Ron

BlueQuartz · 04-02-2005, 02:29 PM

i just want everyone to be happy

happy happy joy joy

Major (Tom) · 04-02-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan Ivanov II

I believe Juicy D Links suffers from this ailment.

juicy has anxiety.. big difference
duke

Tala · 04-02-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

juicy has anxiety.. big difference
duke

I can see why he has anxiety attacks, every woman in the world wants him!

CDSmith · 04-02-2005, 03:00 PM

On another note, I find it quite funny in a 'funny' sort of way that a lot of people (and I mean a LOT) tend to drown their sorrows with alcohol, which is a depressant.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

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04-02-2005, 12:12 PM	#58
shuki Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 3,070	It will amaze you the stuff that is written in these books. There is a wealth of information in there. Anyone can take advantage of these protocals. It all boils down to trying to make the body clean and pure. It is no coincidence that we have the highest rates of cancer and are in the most industrialized era of the world. Trust me big companies are killing us and making tons of money doing it. I am not trying to go all green peace and hippie on you but the food we eat and water we drink is killing us along with thousands of other problems __________________ Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

04-02-2005, 12:19 PM	#67
brilsmurf Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,405	wow i had t difficult to read! shorten it up a bit __________________ The Best Adult Web Hosting of 2008 - http://www.adulthosting.com Affiliate Program – http://www.sxcash.com

04-02-2005, 12:20 PM	#69
shuki Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 3,070	In the words of Sherrie Rogers M.D. "As you will see, there is a BIOCHEMICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL TRIGGER OR CAUSE FOR MOST ALL problems of mal-health." __________________ Looking to buy established paysites contact me [email protected]

04-02-2005, 01:02 PM	#92
Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	I'm tripolar Well, definitely bipolar... even though I've never been officially diagnosed. I know that I am. I have all the symptoms. My original handle was actually "moody". All I know is that I go from extreme highs to lows on a daily basis and anything can trigger a certain mood. I get really happy and "high on life", euphoric even, for a very short period of time, then something usually something really insignificant will make me cry and I'll be depressed for the rest of the day. The thing is, I don't feel my depression is just a chemical imbalance. There really are underlying causes/reasons for the way I feel and think. I just don't bounce out of it or ignore it like a lot of people would. My problem is I can't stop thinking. I remember too much and dwell on things too much. They say ignorance is bliss, so I think "normal", happy people just don't remember why their life sucks lol. Anyway, I'm against any and all mind altering medications. Whether it's Prozac or something stronger, I refuse to take any. I don't believe in taking most medicines. They are dangerous and usually end up causing worse problems than what you have already. I would rather go through life being moody than live in a cloud world or artifically change my mind. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

04-02-2005, 12:12 PM	#55
ULVideo Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York Posts: 405	I've been involved with a few women who were true Bipolar (hey, when they are in the right part of their cycle, they are sex machines). The single biggest problem I can attest to is that it's very hard to get someone who is in an "up cycle" to go on the correct meds, because who wants to take meds which will dull all the "up" stuff? Then, they crash, and it's touch to get them to take the proper meds because they are so "down". Bipolar disorder needs to be dealt with usings proper meds (one woman I saw tried to claim she was using one of the diet aids - ephedra based - to control it. I couldn't find one doctor who agreed with this course).

04-02-2005, 12:31 PM	#79
klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	:-)

04-02-2005, 01:12 PM	#94
Tala Fucked if I know Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Do you have a flag? Posts: 23,368	I have to say, this thread turned out to be much more interesting than I thought it would be. Thanks. __________________ ICQ: 11120676 \| Google: mindcrime \| Skype: suitemindcrime\|E-Mail: mindcrime AT gmail.com\|PR girl with great writing skills for hire!!!! Contact me to work for YOU!\|TECHIEMEDIA? 24/7 support from some of the best techs in the biz. Tell Jim that I sent you.

04-02-2005, 01:38 PM	#95
quant Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 53	Drugs rarely cure any disease. However, drugs can save your life. I don't believe in taking any drug, psychotropic or not, daily just to live. I would seek out a more holistic approach and try to determine the root cause of it. Pills can make you happy, but so can success by hard work and a stable meaningful life. Clearly the happiness in the former is not equal to the latter. Homeostasis and serenity doesn't come easy. I would think most people have no true desire or ambition to change their life and thus succumb to the notion that things will always be how they are. Personally I am disgusted by the concept of little kids on psychotropic drugs and doctors force feeding damaging chemicals to desperate patients while collecting kickbacks. If anyone knows anything about drug abuse, you'll know that psychotropic drugs are the most harmful and addictive known to man (i.e. barbiturates such as Xanax). I would highly suggest you watch the movie, What the Bleep Do We Know? It has many profound moments and illustrates clearly what addiction is while enlightening you to the true power you and your thoughts have. Stuart Hameroff (associate of Roger Penrose) is in it. The website is at: http://whatthebleep.com/scientists/ and the torrents are at: http://www.mininova.org/search/?sear...eep+do+we+know If you do take psychtropic drugs, you should definitely try to find time to watch the movie. Good luck. Last edited by quant; 04-02-2005 at 01:40 PM..

04-02-2005, 02:29 PM	#97
BlueQuartz Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,971	i just want everyone to be happy happy happy joy joy

04-02-2005, 03:00 PM	#100
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	On another note, I find it quite funny in a 'funny' sort of way that a lot of people (and I mean a LOT) tend to drown their sorrows with alcohol, which is a depressant. Truth is stranger than fiction. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634