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sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 10:41 PM

100 bad situations....

Strife · 03-15-2005, 10:46 PM

HAHA...dumbass bitch...looks like she fucked herself.

CybermedAndy · 03-15-2005, 10:49 PM

Let's finish this now-

See post #6.

sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelDollarsAndy

Let's finish this now-

See post #6.

hahaha best suggestion in the thread

Illicit · 03-15-2005, 10:54 PM

Why you ever turned down the $3500 I'll never know... Well you said you wanted experience, nows your chance to get it... put the site up and milk it for every dime you can. Stop crying about it like a baby.

.:St Ides:. · 03-15-2005, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illicit

Why you ever turned down the $3500 I'll never know... Well you said you wanted experience, nows your chance to get it... put the site up and milk it for every dime you can. Stop crying about it like a baby.

sadly I agree, he feels his time is worth more then 1k. he could have gotten 3500 and been back at a solid starting point to shoot a new site and learned what he could and could not do

sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 10:57 PM

its not like i was stuck on 4k...

i just threw it out there... like i said before i even started negotiating with lightspeed..... i told the web camming bosses that i would accept 3500.... this all happened in a matter of 2 minutes... they said 3500 i said 4000 and then they said no right away....

.:St Ides:. · 03-15-2005, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

its not like i was stuck on 4k...

i just threw it out there... like i said before i even started negotiating with lightspeed..... i told the web camming bosses that i would accept 3500.... this all happened in a matter of 2 minutes... they said 3500 i said 4000 and then they said no right away....

Put pride aside my friend. In many situations there is no negotiating. Especially in adult, most people tell you what they want to do and that's that. Not all the back and forth bull shit. Most i've dealt with get to the point, there is no time to nit pick and haggle.

kmanrox · 03-15-2005, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

its not like i was stuck on 4k...

i just threw it out there... like i said before i even started negotiating with lightspeed..... i told the web camming bosses that i would accept 3500.... this all happened in a matter of 2 minutes... they said 3500 i said 4000 and then they said no right away....

i usually side with the little guy, but i gotta tell ya... if you counter, that *is* a deal breaker... you declined his offer by raising.. i learned this the hard way too... i had a domain i valued at about $200, had some chick offering me $4500, i was like '5k' and she said 'no' and when I said 'umm ok I'll take 4.5k' she said 'no, you declined my offer, that's a deal breaker...

sucked ... i learned the hard way on this deal as it was right before XMas when i was a poor Marine and I could have used it...

SteveLightspeed · 03-15-2005, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

i told the web camming bosses that i would accept 3500.... this all happened in a matter of 2 minutes... they said 3500 i said 4000 and then they said no right away....

You just explained to everyone your mistake. Do you think I didn't hear from Steve that you were willing to accept $3500? Only when I asked for an NDA, you tried to jack me for another $500 --- so you fucked yourself. $3500 is too high too, $2500 is fair. But this is all moot now anyway, cause I'm such a "dick".

Steve Lightspeed

sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 11:14 PM

you know why i called you a dick... don't try and use that against me.

SteveLightspeed · 03-15-2005, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

you know why i called you a dick... don't try and use that against me.

Ok, $1500, take it or leave it.

Wanna go lower?

European Lee · 03-15-2005, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Ok, $1500, take it or leave it.

Wanna go lower?

If i call you a dick will you lower it anyway Steve ;)

Regards,

Lee

sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 11:20 PM

hahha... 3500

SteveLightspeed · 03-15-2005, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

hahha... 3500

ok, $1250, take a negotiation class already.

.:St Ides:. · 03-15-2005, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

you know why i called you a dick... don't try and use that against me.

Calling someone a dick is not a good way to negotiate. Every post you make is another foot you dig deeper into the ground

.:St Ides:. · 03-15-2005, 11:24 PM

In about an hour Sam is going to end up owing Steve money for time and headaches.

Sly · 03-15-2005, 11:25 PM

Ok now this is getting funny.

sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Ok now this is getting funny.

this has been funny the whole time lol

JoeA · 03-15-2005, 11:26 PM

We agreed on the deal as we had been friends for so long, and I introduced her to the main producers in the adult biz over here, so 50/50 was a natural agreement. We spoke about me being her agent for a while, but we decided to build the site instead as I felt awkward taking money from her that way...

I shoot all the content except the b/g, as that's the one style she doesn't feel comfortable doing with me behind the camera. We have a friend who shoots that and he does it on a content share basis or he pays her, gives us the stills for the site and we promote the film when it's released on Dvd.

As I said, Sahara is a full time model and as well as the films she's shot so far, she also appears on UK satellite tv at least once a week in a hardcore g/g show. Any money she makes from the site is a bonus to her normal work, which earns her $11000-14000 a month. The only prob I have is explaining that what she see's on the CCBill stats as gross sales isn't what we get in the end... LOL. I wish CCBill would make the last column the amount we will receive after deductions.. AC/EGS Pay had that as a feature when they were processors, as we webmasters pointed it out while it was still in beta would be a good idea

In the UK there are a few webmasters who work with models successfully running a solo site on a 50/50 basis... Maybe it's just a UK thing. One friend of mine looks after quite a few of them and never has a problem. In fact he's now stopped taking on more models as he works all hours of the day as it is.

Doctor Dre · 03-15-2005, 11:29 PM

If you are stupid enough to shoot a model for a single girl website without getting her to sign an exclusivity contract, you deserve to loose that money.

Doctor Dre · 03-15-2005, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceXXX

and now she won't shoot with you cause of that agreement?

sounds like she is the flat out idiot here...and sounds like she is the reason for your drama

fuckin women...

launch the site, no trials, promote the fuck out of it, make your money back

once you make your money back, sell the content in a blowout sale for some cheap price on some site like contentblowout.com...and let it ride for a few months...make more money back

not spending a couple hundread bucks to get a good and clear contract wrote is the problem right now

sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

not spending a couple hundread bucks to get a good and clear contract wrote is the problem right now

it was my first site.. i know i made that mistake.... i know now....

.:St Ides:. · 03-15-2005, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

If you are stupid enough to shoot a model for a single girl website without getting her to sign an exclusivity contract, you deserve to loose that money.

My point exactly, only one person at fault here, all the others were just trying to do biz.

Kard63 · 03-15-2005, 11:38 PM

Dude, launch the site already. Listen to ContentProducer. When the site doesnt make a buck anymore and she has a diferent job give that shit away for free.

sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63

Dude, launch the site already. Listen to ContentProducer. When the site doesnt make a buck anymore and she has a diferent job give that shit away for free.

trust me i have every intent to

.. site will be up as soon as the design gets tweaked a little

BlueQuartz · 03-15-2005, 11:46 PM

start making free sites or galleries and work your arse off

you will make money and you will have to invest very little and will have nothing liek the responsibility of a paysite

this is such a common mistake peopke make - thinkin its real easy n shit - just open a paysite n youll be rich - anyways just read your post n thats it - all th best

_

sonofsam · 03-15-2005, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueQuartz

start making free sites or galleries and work your arse off

you will make money and you will have to invest very little and will have nothing liek the responsibility of a paysite

this is such a common mistake peopke make - thinkin its real easy n shit - just open a paysite n youll be rich - anyways just read your post n thats it - all th best

_

oh believe me, i will be working my ass off

James White · 03-15-2005, 11:56 PM

Launch the site, no trials, like Jace said. Just sell the fuck outa what you got now and make back your money as much as you can.

KMR Stitch · 03-16-2005, 12:03 AM

Very intresting read.

Illicit · 03-16-2005, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

ok, $1250, take a negotiation class already.

I think he is learning alot from you owning his ass

sonofsam · 03-16-2005, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illicit

I think he is learning alot from you owning his ass

venus · 03-16-2005, 12:08 AM

gonna throw my

in on this real quick.
For starters, your not out as much money as your suggesting. The equipmnent is something you can use again and again and again with different models so you can't really include that in the loss. Your not out on money for the model because you have her content, and I can tell you this, its not the amount of content you have, its the quality of the content. I do not see where your out money.
The situation did not work out with that girl, get used to it and move on, launch the site, use her as the spokesperson, then add other content...its not hard. If you have good content use it, if you dont, toss it and start over. There is a million things you can do, dont focus on the one bit of content, this business is a bitch, like most businesses, stay in it long enough and your going to get fucked over, stabbed in the back and ripped off.

dont worry about lightspeed, dont worry about the model, dont worry about the cam place, focus on YOUR goal and get on with it, you sound like life is over, you do not have to follow other people examples of a "single girl site", do it your way and dont even look at other sites untill yours is done the way you want it to be.

Illicit · 03-16-2005, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus

gonna throw my

in on this real quick.
For starters, your not out as much money as your suggesting. The equipmnent is something you can use again and again and again with different models so you can't really include that in the loss. Your not out on money for the model because you have her content, and I can tell you this, its not the amount of content you have, its the quality of the content. I do not see where your out money.
The situation did not work out with that girl, get used to it and move on, launch the site, use her as the spokesperson, then add other content...its not hard. If you have good content use it, if you dont, toss it and start over. There is a million things you can do, dont focus on the one bit of content, this business is a bitch, like most businesses, stay in it long enough and your going to get fucked over, stabbed in the back and ripped off.

dont worry about lightspeed, dont worry about the model, dont worry about the cam place, focus on YOUR goal and get on with it, you sound like life is over, you do not have to follow other people examples of a "single girl site", do it your way and dont even look at other sites untill yours is done the way you want it to be.

Good Advice.... You should take it...

sonofsam · 03-16-2005, 12:12 AM

yah , thinking over it... i don't think it will be so bad... because of this situation i have made a lot of new contacts... i think i'll just launch her site and offer lifetime membership or something along those lines... a lot of very nice people have offered me free content.. i'm not going to use it because i dont want something for free... but everyones been really helpfull...

a big thanks to the people that have icqed me... and contentproducer for the free content offer...

i'm pretty much done with this thread..

hydro · 03-16-2005, 12:18 AM

I ran into a problem like this too back in november and the best thing to do at this point is just promote the site with what you have and add in some filler content. I had about 30 pic sets and 13 videos from this girl then she got this new boyfriend and just flaked on me so i just used it.

venus · 03-16-2005, 12:20 AM

you should post a pic of this model, I am curious as to why she is so important to you. She does not seem to be a really big deal to lightspeed because he said he would not use her and for you to go for it, lets see who all this mess was over if you can do it.

sonofsam · 03-16-2005, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venus

you should post a pic of this model, I am curious as to why she is so important to you. She does not seem to be a really big deal to lightspeed because he said he would not use her and for you to go for it, lets see who all this mess was over if you can do it.

www.adultforum.ca/skinnymandy ... the designs not tweaked yet.. but that gives u an idea of what she looks like

webgurl · 03-16-2005, 12:23 AM

No offence sonofsam this time you should do some more research before getting into yourself into further issues . I'm only trying to tell u this cause you are still really fresh noobie and wish u don't waste anymore $$$ into this side of the business .
Learn more about this industry before you make another move .

Donny · 03-16-2005, 12:35 AM

If Steve has decided not to use the model make a site with that content you have, get back as much money as you can, and then put all of the content for sale on Ounique.com . They'll sell it for you to their huge database of webmasters and give you 50% of all sales forever. 4 years from now you'll still be making money on that content.

Of course, since you need money now your best bet is to sell your content to Lightspeed. Keep trying to negotiate until they say, "Absolutely not. We are not interested." At that point, see my first paragraph.

sonofsam · 03-16-2005, 12:41 AM

negotiations are over already, im just gonna go ahead and launch the site.. then when it doesnt sell anymore.. release it all for free lol

Pornwolf · 03-16-2005, 12:55 AM

This might be a cool time to think about using an AVS system. Deluxe Pass would probably make you a decent amount of money and provide you with the content that will keep the rebills flowing. Use their hosting too and you end up with no additional costs since that seems like an important thing in your case.

sonofsam · 03-16-2005, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

This might be a cool time to think about using an AVS system. Deluxe Pass would probably make you a decent amount of money and provide you with the content that will keep the rebills flowing. Use their hosting too and you end up with no additional costs since that seems like an important thing in your case.

i already have the CCBill thing covered but thanks for the suggestion

Donny · 03-16-2005, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

negotiations are over already, im just gonna go ahead and launch the site.. then when it doesnt sell anymore.. release it all for free lol

Don't forget to sell it on Ounique as well. It will still sell, I guarantee it. I'm talking from experience here. I sent some stuff to Ounique more than 3 years ago and STILL receive monthly royalties on it.

sonofsam · 03-16-2005, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Don't forget to sell it on Ounique as well. It will still sell, I guarantee it. I'm talking from experience here. I sent some stuff to Ounique more than 3 years ago and STILL receive monthly royalties on it.

i will put it on ounique for the beginning... but once it doesn't do so good... its being released for free

iwantchixx · 03-16-2005, 07:56 AM

I'm hoping that Sam and Lightspeed can at least reconcile any differences that arised from this situation. It would be a shame to not be able to do further business together down the road. This model fucked both of you guys over and pitted you against each other. Don't let that stupid whore ruin any possible business relationships. kiss n make up

adonthenet · 03-16-2005, 08:12 AM

damn i feel bad for you..
if you can please hit me up 162027899
good luck! lunch the fucking site!

Doctor Dre · 03-16-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

it was my first site.. i know i made that mistake.... i know now....

You should do your homework before investing a lot of time in something ... people in this business are really helpfull ...

Spending big money on hotels, makeup artists and other b ullshit isn't gonna bring you far when you start a new site (unless you have a 150-200k to start up with) .

Doctor Dre · 03-16-2005, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

This might be a cool time to think about using an AVS system. Deluxe Pass would probably make you a decent amount of money and provide you with the content that will keep the rebills flowing. Use their hosting too and you end up with no additional costs since that seems like an important thing in your case.

greatest idea ever

Wizard-X · 03-16-2005, 10:50 AM

Been there, done that. My last roommate was a pornstar - a young one. The young sluts are the most unreliable people you will ever meet, and there is always an "ex" in the picture that makes your life a living hell.

The above mentioned girl just decided on a whim that she wants to go get an education - "makeup school". So she drops everything and moves away to do it (sacrificing her 10k-20k/month from porn). Out of all this money she of course has nothing.

I have maybe 10 vids of her and ~1000 pics. I begged and pleaded with her to not go. I specifically told her that she was not going to be able to continue her expensive life style if she left.

She called me up last night because she doesn't want to get a real job and expects a $2k a month 'allowance' until the website starts generating revenue. Her parents won't give her shit, so I should.

hahahahahahahahaahah

my advice to you Sam: hang in there bro

03-15-2005, 10:41 PM	#101
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	100 bad situations.... __________________ I like turtles.

03-15-2005, 10:46 PM	#102
Strife Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 4,534	HAHA...dumbass bitch...looks like she fucked herself. __________________ Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet

03-15-2005, 10:49 PM	#103
CybermedAndy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,170	Let's finish this now- See post #6. __________________ Add some upsell items to your pages here!

03-15-2005, 10:54 PM	#105
Illicit wtf ? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GFY Posts: 11,895	Why you ever turned down the $3500 I'll never know... Well you said you wanted experience, nows your chance to get it... put the site up and milk it for every dime you can. Stop crying about it like a baby. __________________ Insert Sig Here

03-15-2005, 10:57 PM	#107
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	its not like i was stuck on 4k... i just threw it out there... like i said before i even started negotiating with lightspeed..... i told the web camming bosses that i would accept 3500.... this all happened in a matter of 2 minutes... they said 3500 i said 4000 and then they said no right away.... __________________ I like turtles.

03-15-2005, 11:14 PM	#111
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	you know why i called you a dick... don't try and use that against me. __________________ I like turtles.

03-15-2005, 11:20 PM	#114
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	hahha... 3500 __________________ I like turtles.

03-15-2005, 11:24 PM	#117
.:St Ides:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,857	In about an hour Sam is going to end up owing Steve money for time and headaches.

03-15-2005, 11:25 PM	#118
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	Ok now this is getting funny. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

03-15-2005, 11:26 PM	#120
JoeA Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London Posts: 568	ContentProducer We agreed on the deal as we had been friends for so long, and I introduced her to the main producers in the adult biz over here, so 50/50 was a natural agreement. We spoke about me being her agent for a while, but we decided to build the site instead as I felt awkward taking money from her that way... I shoot all the content except the b/g, as that's the one style she doesn't feel comfortable doing with me behind the camera. We have a friend who shoots that and he does it on a content share basis or he pays her, gives us the stills for the site and we promote the film when it's released on Dvd. As I said, Sahara is a full time model and as well as the films she's shot so far, she also appears on UK satellite tv at least once a week in a hardcore g/g show. Any money she makes from the site is a bonus to her normal work, which earns her $11000-14000 a month. The only prob I have is explaining that what she see's on the CCBill stats as gross sales isn't what we get in the end... LOL. I wish CCBill would make the last column the amount we will receive after deductions.. AC/EGS Pay had that as a feature when they were processors, as we webmasters pointed it out while it was still in beta would be a good idea In the UK there are a few webmasters who work with models successfully running a solo site on a 50/50 basis... Maybe it's just a UK thing. One friend of mine looks after quite a few of them and never has a problem. In fact he's now stopped taking on more models as he works all hours of the day as it is. __________________ www.saharagetsdirty.com/ www.ravishingindians.com/ www.anglo-indian-girls.com/

03-15-2005, 11:38 PM	#125
Kard63 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 237 619 975 Posts: 8,944	Dude, launch the site already. Listen to ContentProducer. When the site doesnt make a buck anymore and she has a diferent job give that shit away for free. __________________

03-15-2005, 11:46 PM	#127
BlueQuartz Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,971	start making free sites or galleries and work your arse off you will make money and you will have to invest very little and will have nothing liek the responsibility of a paysite this is such a common mistake peopke make - thinkin its real easy n shit - just open a paysite n youll be rich - anyways just read your post n thats it - all th best _

03-15-2005, 11:56 PM	#129
James White Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dirty South, Atlanta ICQ# : 191-402-709 Posts: 1,405	Launch the site, no trials, like Jace said. Just sell the fuck outa what you got now and make back your money as much as you can.

03-16-2005, 12:03 AM	#130
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	Very intresting read.

03-16-2005, 12:08 AM	#133
venus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 3,112	gonna throw my in on this real quick. For starters, your not out as much money as your suggesting. The equipmnent is something you can use again and again and again with different models so you can't really include that in the loss. Your not out on money for the model because you have her content, and I can tell you this, its not the amount of content you have, its the quality of the content. I do not see where your out money. The situation did not work out with that girl, get used to it and move on, launch the site, use her as the spokesperson, then add other content...its not hard. If you have good content use it, if you dont, toss it and start over. There is a million things you can do, dont focus on the one bit of content, this business is a bitch, like most businesses, stay in it long enough and your going to get fucked over, stabbed in the back and ripped off. dont worry about lightspeed, dont worry about the model, dont worry about the cam place, focus on YOUR goal and get on with it, you sound like life is over, you do not have to follow other people examples of a "single girl site", do it your way and dont even look at other sites untill yours is done the way you want it to be. __________________ Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

03-16-2005, 12:12 AM	#135
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	yah , thinking over it... i don't think it will be so bad... because of this situation i have made a lot of new contacts... i think i'll just launch her site and offer lifetime membership or something along those lines... a lot of very nice people have offered me free content.. i'm not going to use it because i dont want something for free... but everyones been really helpfull... a big thanks to the people that have icqed me... and contentproducer for the free content offer... i'm pretty much done with this thread.. __________________ I like turtles.

03-16-2005, 12:18 AM	#136
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	I ran into a problem like this too back in november and the best thing to do at this point is just promote the site with what you have and add in some filler content. I had about 30 pic sets and 13 videos from this girl then she got this new boyfriend and just flaked on me so i just used it.

03-16-2005, 12:20 AM	#137
venus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 3,112	you should post a pic of this model, I am curious as to why she is so important to you. She does not seem to be a really big deal to lightspeed because he said he would not use her and for you to go for it, lets see who all this mess was over if you can do it. __________________ Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

03-16-2005, 12:23 AM	#139
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	No offence sonofsam this time you should do some more research before getting into yourself into further issues . I'm only trying to tell u this cause you are still really fresh noobie and wish u don't waste anymore $$$ into this side of the business . Learn more about this industry before you make another move .

03-16-2005, 12:35 AM	#140
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	If Steve has decided not to use the model make a site with that content you have, get back as much money as you can, and then put all of the content for sale on Ounique.com . They'll sell it for you to their huge database of webmasters and give you 50% of all sales forever. 4 years from now you'll still be making money on that content. Of course, since you need money now your best bet is to sell your content to Lightspeed. Keep trying to negotiate until they say, "Absolutely not. We are not interested." At that point, see my first paragraph.

03-16-2005, 12:41 AM	#141
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	negotiations are over already, im just gonna go ahead and launch the site.. then when it doesnt sell anymore.. release it all for free lol __________________ I like turtles.

03-16-2005, 12:55 AM	#142
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	This might be a cool time to think about using an AVS system. Deluxe Pass would probably make you a decent amount of money and provide you with the content that will keep the rebills flowing. Use their hosting too and you end up with no additional costs since that seems like an important thing in your case. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches. Last edited by Pornwolf; 03-16-2005 at 12:57 AM..

03-16-2005, 07:56 AM	#146
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	I'm hoping that Sam and Lightspeed can at least reconcile any differences that arised from this situation. It would be a shame to not be able to do further business together down the road. This model fucked both of you guys over and pitted you against each other. Don't let that stupid whore ruin any possible business relationships. kiss n make up

03-16-2005, 08:12 AM	#147
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	damn i feel bad for you.. if you can please hit me up 162027899 good luck! lunch the fucking site!

03-16-2005, 10:50 AM	#150
Wizard-X Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Posts: 111	Been there, done that. My last roommate was a pornstar - a young one. The young sluts are the most unreliable people you will ever meet, and there is always an "ex" in the picture that makes your life a living hell. The above mentioned girl just decided on a whim that she wants to go get an education - "makeup school". So she drops everything and moves away to do it (sacrificing her 10k-20k/month from porn). Out of all this money she of course has nothing. I have maybe 10 vids of her and ~1000 pics. I begged and pleaded with her to not go. I specifically told her that she was not going to be able to continue her expensive life style if she left. She called me up last night because she doesn't want to get a real job and expects a $2k a month 'allowance' until the website starts generating revenue. Her parents won't give her shit, so I should. hahahahahahahahaahah my advice to you Sam: hang in there bro