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Canadians dealing with CCBill bullshit..........
I've looked in to incorporating in delaware to be able to sign up with ccbill.. but after talking to a ccbill rep on icq... even he cant tell me if that will be enough to be able to sign up with ccbill.... now is there any other processor i could use? or anyone know how to go about incorporating in the US and using CCBill ? since they need SSN and DRIVERS LICENCE and PASSPORT... i doubt the delaware company for incorporating will supply that information ... so can anyone help? i'm getting really fucking frusterated... this is such a bitch...
any other processor i could use? or can anyone give me some suggestions on what to do. or who to talk ot?
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We registered in nevada and had to file pages and pages of paperwork ...
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Haters & Trolls SUCK!
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You have to be incorporated to signup with CCbill?
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My hips don't lie
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who is your principal? |
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The Hustler
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Send traffic to www.filthyhooker.com and ALL of your problems will go away.
Think Illuminati.. You scrub my ass and I'll inpregnant your wife. |
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You shouldn't have a problem. We're primarily a Canadian venture but our US subsidiary has a CCBill IPSP account. Depending on how you structure your organization, you might end up being liable for US Federal Corporate Income Tax, Delaware Corporate Income Tax (on revenue from sales to people in Delware), and GST/PST your Canadian sales.
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Get a nominee director and ur fine!
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- find a business partner in the US who will act as your principal (keep in mind, this person has control over your CCBill account & your domains since his name is the one Visa is looking at) - try to get a merchant account - incorporate in EU (you may run into the principal problem again, but for the time being, the rules are more lax than in the US) - go premium AVS - find an existing company that wants to take on your sites for some kind of revenue split (lots of companies took on smaller sites when the Visa fees started up) - accept MC, checks, dialer, phone & snail mail payments until you can find a Visa solution |
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I gave up and found someone willing to process my sites. It's just too much BS.
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i tried talking to someone from ccbill on icq...
he himself didnt even know what to say... he suggested moving to the usa... and no i'm not bullshitting... didn't even know what i was talking about when i started talking about companies that incorporate for you.. such as the delaware company etc etc
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What's the story on verotel? is that an option you could pursue?
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I dont see what th ebig deal is. There already are free trade scripts, free tgp scripts and free hosted galleries that all the tgp'ers have used one time or another already. I think people are just scared of competition. remember when you were the little guy who worked hard to become big? Why is it not ok for today's little guy to do the same?
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"Assassins"
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This whole thing is a load of total bull shit.
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Also, what's the difference between people using free tools or people who don't use tools at all? Remember when TGPs never had trade scripts or submission scripts? hell, some still exist and are doing really well. Any idiot can start a scriptless site and with enough work becomme established.
I'd really like to see the rule where only established sites can do biz and the little guys starting out shouldn't exist. |
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exactly... they make it fucking hard for the people starting out....
EXTREMELY hard.... either way.. a couple of us canadians who are going through the same bullshit have made a sub forum on a canadian forum dedicated to ccbill bullshit and paysite startup... so if interested icq me.... there is already some good info posted.... and once i figure this shit out i'lll post it there and here too
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Why are Caadians getting fucked? I don't understand........
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again,wrong fucking tread. what the fuck! |
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If I recall correctly, all you need are articles of incorporation for a US company, a federal tax id, and the passport of the principal (and possibly the officers) of the company. Unless they've changed their policy the principal does not have to be a US citizen/resident. I wouldn't expect them to know about "companies that incorporate for you".
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Stop bashing CCBILL
I've been fucked over by 3 billing companies (probilling, IBILL, merchant account) since starting business in 98 CCBILL is still sendiing me checks every week You should kiss their ass - CCBILL is the best - good luck staying in business without them |
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j/k You should try contacting different people at ccbill... there has to be someone that has done this before. Good luck |
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sonofsam,
CCbill is a great company, maybe you spoke with the wrong person? I'll drop "corvette" from CCbill an ICQ about this thread for you. He'll get you taken care of. As for your "join by online check" option, I'm your man! No need to incorporate in the US to get started either. Hit me up and I'll have you pushing transactions by week's end! Check out (Web Transaction Services) for more details. We've been processing ACH (online checks) longer than anyone on the Adult'Net, and for many of the largest programs too. Our understanding of the ACH processing industry allows us to specialize in providing innovative check based solutions for your business Should you decide to signup via our website (WTSbank.com), enter this code (M42YACBE) into the comment box, or contact me directly to receive your first month possessing FREE! Setup is free as well if you use that promotional code, or contact ME directly to get in on this great offer! I'm looking forward to hearing from you! Kindest Regards, Ben Zuckerman Account Manager Web Transaction Services Direct: 1(512)263-3011 ext.1168 Mobile: 1(512)263-3011 Email: benz AT wtsbank.com ICQ: 138827832
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It's not the US' fault nor Ccbill's. If you must lay blame, then blame Visa's policies (fruitless) or the collusion of Canadian banks. An entire industry has been wiped out in Canada because of the banking industry's refusal to touch adult. Write your mp, or find a vocal and ambitious reporter. This is the only way that the situation will change.
In the meantime, follow Kcat's suggestions. It's not fun, nor fair, but if you want to be in the paysite business bad enough, you will do whatever needs to be done, as we have.... |
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sonofsam
hit me via email and i'll see what I can do for you
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Old thread...SonofSam did u manage to finally get setup with ccbill and thru with all the incorp bshit?
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nice bump
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bump for canadian webmasters
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Get a nominee director and ur fine!
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yes of course - that's the risk you take using somebody. hiring a lawyer to be your director is probably the best bet since he would be disbarred if he took advantage. though there are plenty of lawyers, accountants and managers who see enough money and go bad.
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Wow that's a no good!!......Looks like Canadian webmasters are fucked! |
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you can incorporate in europe and use ccbill eu
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wow.. bumping a 2 year old thread.... instead of starting a new one?
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does anyone know of any companies / business associates that are actually interested in being prinicipals for a sum of course? |
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Maybe it just because Canada is a lame country. Just a thought.
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Just my ![]() And seriously why more people don't just go with Verotel to start is beyond me.
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Hi,
Sorry for asking a silly question but , what is the Main Issue with Canadian Web-Masters/Site-Owners and U.S. 3PP'S and U.S. Credit card transactions????? SONOFSAM Asked an interesting question regarding a possible U.S. Partner being the forward with a U.S. 3PP in order to allow a canadian w/masters to processes c/cards and doing this for a fee..... What would it take to make this happen???? Feel free to contact me at : [email protected] Maybe i can help...... I would appreciate any suggestions from the rest of you guys. Also, Ben Z @ WTS is an awsome professional, great when it comes to client service and follow-up. WTS is a great company... Whats up Ben????? Ben ,Hit me with an e-mail if you catch this, it's been awhile . Also, Mike over at Verotel U.S. is a great guy and mirrors what i said about Ben. Best of luck all. Thank you in advance.... P.S. My site is down , im still looking for some design help. I want to put something nice together. Hit me @ the e-mail above with your portfolio....I'm ready to move asap so i wont be waisting your time.
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[email protected] ICQ : 405993908 I can help you.... Free service, I am a former 3pp sales director. I am currently researching the best 3pp's and merchant banks. Reputation , Pay-Out Consistancy and Client Service. In light of the past 1 1/2 years of 3pp's going under and taking your hard earned $ with them, i strongly suggest that you conact me. I can get you , at least , 1% discount on your current fee/rate. I dont want you to give up your current 3pp , i simply want you to diversify your risk.This is a Free service. cc,checks,etc... |
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