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  • sonofsam
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2004
    • 18642
    #1

    Canadians dealing with CCBill bullshit..........

    I've looked in to incorporating in delaware to be able to sign up with ccbill.. but after talking to a ccbill rep on icq... even he cant tell me if that will be enough to be able to sign up with ccbill.... now is there any other processor i could use? or anyone know how to go about incorporating in the US and using CCBill ? since they need SSN and DRIVERS LICENCE and PASSPORT... i doubt the delaware company for incorporating will supply that information ... so can anyone help? i'm getting really fucking frusterated... this is such a bitch...

    any other processor i could use? or can anyone give me some suggestions on what to do. or who to talk ot?
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    • Doctor Dre
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      • Jan 2001
      • 51692
      #2
      We registered in nevada and had to file pages and pages of paperwork ...
      Originally posted by rayadp05
      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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        • DeanCapture
          Haters & Trolls SUCK!
          • Dec 2002
          • 9275
          #3
          You have to be incorporated to signup with CCbill?
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            • xxxdesign-net
              My hips don't lie
              • Nov 2002
              • 10129
              #4
              Originally posted by Doctor Dre
              We registered in nevada and had to file pages and pages of paperwork ...

              who is your principal?

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                • sickbeatz
                  The Hustler
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 4993
                  #5
                  Send traffic to www.filthyhooker.com and ALL of your problems will go away.


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                    • sonofsam
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 18642
                      #6
                      Originally posted by sickbeatz
                      Send traffic to www.filthyhooker.com and ALL of your problems will go away.


                      Think Illuminati.. You scrub my ass and I'll inpregnant your wife.
                      okay retard
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                        • NetRodent
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 3985
                          #7
                          Originally posted by sonofsam
                          I've looked in to incorporating in delaware to be able to sign up with ccbill.. but after talking to a ccbill rep on icq... even he cant tell me if that will be enough to be able to sign up with ccbill.... now is there any other processor i could use? or anyone know how to go about incorporating in the US and using CCBill ? since they need SSN and DRIVERS LICENCE and PASSPORT... i doubt the delaware company for incorporating will supply that information ... so can anyone help? i'm getting really fucking frusterated... this is such a bitch...

                          any other processor i could use? or can anyone give me some suggestions on what to do. or who to talk ot?
                          You could try talking to CCBill.

                          You shouldn't have a problem. We're primarily a Canadian venture but our US subsidiary has a CCBill IPSP account.

                          Depending on how you structure your organization, you might end up being liable for US Federal Corporate Income Tax, Delaware Corporate Income Tax (on revenue from sales to people in Delware), and GST/PST your Canadian sales.
                          "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
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                            • Bomber8888
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 1444
                              #8
                              Get a nominee director and ur fine!
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                                • KCat
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 2204
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by sonofsam
                                  I've looked in to incorporating in delaware to be able to sign up with ccbill.. but after talking to a ccbill rep on icq... even he cant tell me if that will be enough to be able to sign up with ccbill.... now is there any other processor i could use? or anyone know how to go about incorporating in the US and using CCBill ? since they need SSN and DRIVERS LICENCE and PASSPORT... i doubt the delaware company for incorporating will supply that information ... so can anyone help? i'm getting really fucking frusterated... this is such a bitch...

                                  any other processor i could use? or can anyone give me some suggestions on what to do. or who to talk ot?
                                  Options:
                                  - find a business partner in the US who will act as your principal (keep in mind, this person has control over your CCBill account & your domains since his name is the one Visa is looking at)
                                  - try to get a merchant account
                                  - incorporate in EU (you may run into the principal problem again, but for the time being, the rules are more lax than in the US)
                                  - go premium AVS
                                  - find an existing company that wants to take on your sites for some kind of revenue split (lots of companies took on smaller sites when the Visa fees started up)
                                  - accept MC, checks, dialer, phone & snail mail payments until you can find a Visa solution

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                                    • jact
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 9134
                                      #10
                                      I gave up and found someone willing to process my sites. It's just too much BS.
                                      Free agent

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                                        • sonofsam
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 18642
                                          #11
                                          i tried talking to someone from ccbill on icq...

                                          he himself didnt even know what to say... he suggested moving to the usa... and no i'm not bullshitting... didn't even know what i was talking about when i started talking about companies that incorporate for you.. such as the delaware company etc etc
                                          I like turtles.

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                                            • iwantchixx
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                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 12860
                                              #12
                                              What's the story on verotel? is that an option you could pursue?

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                                                • iwantchixx
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 12860
                                                  #13
                                                  I dont see what th ebig deal is. There already are free trade scripts, free tgp scripts and free hosted galleries that all the tgp'ers have used one time or another already. I think people are just scared of competition. remember when you were the little guy who worked hard to become big? Why is it not ok for today's little guy to do the same?

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                                                    • Martin
                                                      "Assassins"
                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 17278
                                                      #14
                                                      This whole thing is a load of total bull shit.

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                                                        • iwantchixx
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 12860
                                                          #15
                                                          Also, what's the difference between people using free tools or people who don't use tools at all? Remember when TGPs never had trade scripts or submission scripts? hell, some still exist and are doing really well. Any idiot can start a scriptless site and with enough work becomme established.

                                                          I'd really like to see the rule where only established sites can do biz and the little guys starting out shouldn't exist.

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                                                            • sonofsam
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 18642
                                                              #16
                                                              exactly... they make it fucking hard for the people starting out....

                                                              EXTREMELY hard.... either way.. a couple of us canadians who are going through the same bullshit have made a sub forum on a canadian forum dedicated to ccbill bullshit and paysite startup... so if interested icq me.... there is already some good info posted.... and once i figure this shit out i'lll post it there and here too
                                                              I like turtles.

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                                                                • Martin
                                                                  "Assassins"
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 17278
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Why are Caadians getting fucked? I don't understand........

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                                                                    • power182
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                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 136
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                      i tried talking to someone from ccbill on icq...

                                                                      he himself didnt even know what to say... he suggested moving to the usa... and no i'm not bullshitting... didn't even know what i was talking about when i started talking about companies that incorporate for you.. such as the delaware company etc etc
                                                                      Call their sales deparment, they'll know what you need.

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                                                                        • iwantchixx
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 12860
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                          I dont see what th ebig deal is. There already are free trade scripts, free tgp scripts and free hosted galleries that all the tgp'ers have used one time or another already. I think people are just scared of competition. remember when you were the little guy who worked hard to become big? Why is it not ok for today's little guy to do the same?
                                                                          sorry, WRong thread

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                                                                            • iwantchixx
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 12860
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                              I dont see what th ebig deal is. There already are free trade scripts, free tgp scripts and free hosted galleries that all the tgp'ers have used one time or another already. I think people are just scared of competition. remember when you were the little guy who worked hard to become big? Why is it not ok for today's little guy to do the same?

                                                                              again,wrong fucking tread. what the fuck!

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                                                                                • NetRodent
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                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 3985
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                                  i tried talking to someone from ccbill on icq...

                                                                                  he himself didnt even know what to say... he suggested moving to the usa... and no i'm not bullshitting... didn't even know what i was talking about when i started talking about companies that incorporate for you.. such as the delaware company etc etc
                                                                                  Try calling CCBill's sales department. I know atleast one of their reps, Sean Eggert, has dealt with this before. He should be able to tell you what documents you will need.

                                                                                  If I recall correctly, all you need are articles of incorporation for a US company, a federal tax id, and the passport of the principal (and possibly the officers) of the company. Unless they've changed their policy the principal does not have to be a US citizen/resident.

                                                                                  I wouldn't expect them to know about "companies that incorporate for you".
                                                                                  "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
                                                                                  --H.L. Mencken

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                                                                                    • mockingbich
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                      • 274
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Stop bashing CCBILL

                                                                                      I've been fucked over by 3 billing companies (probilling, IBILL, merchant account) since starting business in 98

                                                                                      CCBILL is still sendiing me checks every week

                                                                                      You should kiss their ass - CCBILL is the best - good luck staying in business without them

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                                                                                        • Shoplifter
                                                                                          Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                          • 5848
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by mockingbich
                                                                                          Stop bashing CCBILL
                                                                                          Agreed, this has nothing to do with them.
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                                                                                            • rambler
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                              • 745
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Martin
                                                                                              Why are Caadians getting fucked? I don't understand........
                                                                                              I betcha it's that fucking cocksucker Bush behind all this ccbill crap.















                                                                                              j/k

                                                                                              You should try contacting different people at ccbill... there has to be someone that has done this before. Good luck

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                                                                                                • Ben.Z
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                                                                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                                                                  • 1164
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  sonofsam,
                                                                                                  CCbill is a great company, maybe you spoke with the wrong person?
                                                                                                  I'll drop "corvette" from CCbill an ICQ about this thread for you. He'll get you taken care of.

                                                                                                  As for your "join by online check" option, I'm your man!
                                                                                                  No need to incorporate in the US to get started either. Hit me up and I'll have you pushing transactions by week's end! Check out (Web Transaction Services) for more details. We've been processing ACH (online checks) longer than anyone on the Adult'Net, and for many of the largest programs too. Our understanding of the ACH processing industry allows us to specialize in providing innovative check based solutions for your business

                                                                                                  Should you decide to signup via our website (WTSbank.com), enter this code (M42YACBE) into the comment box, or contact me directly to receive your first month possessing FREE! Setup is free as well if you use that promotional code, or contact ME directly to get in on this great offer!

                                                                                                  I'm looking forward to hearing from you!

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                                                                                                    • emmanuelle
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                      • 3662
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      It's not the US' fault nor Ccbill's. If you must lay blame, then blame Visa's policies (fruitless) or the collusion of Canadian banks. An entire industry has been wiped out in Canada because of the banking industry's refusal to touch adult. Write your mp, or find a vocal and ambitious reporter. This is the only way that the situation will change.
                                                                                                      In the meantime, follow Kcat's suggestions. It's not fun, nor fair, but if you want to be in the paysite business bad enough, you will do whatever needs to be done, as we have....

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                                                                                                        • StuartD
                                                                                                          Sofa King Band
                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                          • 29903
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by sonofsam
                                                                                                          ...but after talking to a ccbill rep on icq... even he cant tell me if that will be enough to be able to sign up with ccbill....
                                                                                                          Originally posted by NetRodent
                                                                                                          You could try talking to CCBill.
                                                                                                          Do people even read before posting??
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                                                                                                            • vicki
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                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                                              • 1478
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              sonofsam

                                                                                                              hit me via email and i'll see what I can do for you
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                                                                                                                • buildingblocks
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                                                                                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                  • 224
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Old thread...SonofSam did u manage to finally get setup with ccbill and thru with all the incorp bshit?
                                                                                                                  icq #403775482

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                                                                                                                    • directfiesta
                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                      • 30135
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WTS - Ben
                                                                                                                      sonofsam,
                                                                                                                      CCbill is a great company, maybe you spoke with the wrong person?
                                                                                                                      I'll drop "corvette" from CCbill an ICQ about this thread for you. He'll get you taken care of.

                                                                                                                      As for your "join by online check" option, I'm your man!
                                                                                                                      No need to incorporate in the US to get started either. Hit me up and I'll have you pushing transactions by week's end! Check out (Web Transaction Services) for more details. We've been processing ACH (online checks) longer than anyone on the Adult'Net, and for many of the largest programs too. Our understanding of the ACH processing industry allows us to specialize in providing innovative check based solutions for your business

                                                                                                                      Should you decide to signup via our website (WTSbank.com), enter this code (M42YACBE) into the comment box, or contact me directly to receive your first month possessing FREE! Setup is free as well if you use that promotional code, or contact ME directly to get in on this great offer!

                                                                                                                      I'm looking forward to hearing from you!

                                                                                                                      Kindest Regards,
                                                                                                                      Ben Zuckerman

                                                                                                                      Account Manager
                                                                                                                      Web Transaction Services
                                                                                                                      Direct: 1(512)263-3011 ext.1168
                                                                                                                      Mobile: 1(512)263-3011
                                                                                                                      Email: benz AT wtsbank.com
                                                                                                                      ICQ: 138827832
                                                                                                                      too bad you don't process sites stronguer then vanilla ....
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                                                                                                                      But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                        • sicone
                                                                                                                          Retired
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                          • 18453
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          nice bump

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                                                                                                                            • buildingblocks
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                                                                                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                              • 224
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              bump for canadian webmasters
                                                                                                                              icq #403775482

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                                                                                                                                • AGS-17
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                                                                                                                                  • May 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 1402
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Get a nominee director and ur fine!

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                                                                                                                                    • buildingblocks
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                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                                      • 224
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AGS-17
                                                                                                                                      Get a nominee director and ur fine!



                                                                                                                                      The nominee director has to present his passporte and sign the papers for the ccbill account. Cant he just run away with your ccbill account and take all your rebills legally?
                                                                                                                                      icq #403775482

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                                                                                                                                        • Mutt
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 34431
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by buildingblocks
                                                                                                                                          The nominee director has to present his passporte and sign the papers for the ccbill account. Cant he just run away with your ccbill account and take all your rebills legally?
                                                                                                                                          yes of course - that's the risk you take using somebody. hiring a lawyer to be your director is probably the best bet since he would be disbarred if he took advantage. though there are plenty of lawyers, accountants and managers who see enough money and go bad.
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                                                                                                                                            • buildingblocks
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                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                                              • 224
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                                              yes of course - that's the risk you take using somebody. hiring a lawyer to be your director is probably the best bet since he would be disbarred if he took advantage. though there are plenty of lawyers, accountants and managers who see enough money and go bad.


                                                                                                                                              Wow that's a no good!!......Looks like Canadian webmasters are fucked!
                                                                                                                                              icq #403775482

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                                                                                                                                                • k0nr4d
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                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                  • 9231
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  you can incorporate in europe and use ccbill eu
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                                                                                                                                                    • buildingblocks
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                                                      • 224
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                                                                                                                                      you can incorporate in europe and use ccbill eu



                                                                                                                                                      That's the option I'm looking into atm.....its just the nominee director part that I am concern about.
                                                                                                                                                      icq #403775482

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                                                                                                                                                        • Nad
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                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 503
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          wow.. bumping a 2 year old thread.... instead of starting a new one?
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                                                                                                                                                            • RegUser
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                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                              • 1472
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by KCat
                                                                                                                                                              Options:
                                                                                                                                                              - find a business partner in the US who will act as your principal (keep in mind, this person has control over your CCBill account & your domains since his name is the one Visa is looking at)
                                                                                                                                                              - try to get a merchant account
                                                                                                                                                              - incorporate in EU (you may run into the principal problem again, but for the time being, the rules are more lax than in the US)
                                                                                                                                                              - go premium AVS
                                                                                                                                                              - find an existing company that wants to take on your sites for some kind of revenue split (lots of companies took on smaller sites when the Visa fees started up)
                                                                                                                                                              - accept MC, checks, dialer, phone & snail mail payments until you can find a Visa solution
                                                                                                                                                              the above is a perfect post. these are the only ways for canadians to use US ccbill or paycom.

                                                                                                                                                              does anyone know of any companies / business associates that are actually interested in being prinicipals for a sum of course?

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                                                                                                                                                                • Brother Bilo
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2007
                                                                                                                                                                  • 4193
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Maybe it just because Canada is a lame country. Just a thought.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Lance69
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                      • 2266
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Brother Bilo
                                                                                                                                                                      Maybe it just because Canada is a lame country. Just a thought.
                                                                                                                                                                      Obviously your incapable of thought.
                                                                                                                                                                      Just my
                                                                                                                                                                      And seriously why more people don't just go with Verotel to start is beyond me.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • not2new
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Hi,
                                                                                                                                                                          Sorry for asking a silly question but , what is the Main Issue with Canadian Web-Masters/Site-Owners and U.S. 3PP'S and U.S. Credit card transactions?????
                                                                                                                                                                          SONOFSAM Asked an interesting question regarding a possible U.S. Partner being the forward with a U.S. 3PP in order to allow a canadian w/masters to processes c/cards and doing this for a fee.....
                                                                                                                                                                          What would it take to make this happen????
                                                                                                                                                                          Feel free to contact me at : [email protected]
                                                                                                                                                                          Maybe i can help......
                                                                                                                                                                          I would appreciate any suggestions from the rest of you guys.
                                                                                                                                                                          Also, Ben Z @ WTS is an awsome professional, great when it comes to client service and follow-up. WTS is a great company...
                                                                                                                                                                          Whats up Ben?????
                                                                                                                                                                          Ben ,Hit me with an e-mail if you catch this, it's been awhile .
                                                                                                                                                                          Also, Mike over at Verotel U.S. is a great guy and mirrors what i said about Ben.
                                                                                                                                                                          Best of luck all. Thank you in advance....

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                              • 42635
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by iwantchixx
                                                                                                                                                                              What's the story on verotel? is that an option you could pursue?
                                                                                                                                                                              Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • directfiesta
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by not2new
                                                                                                                                                                                  Hi,

                                                                                                                                                                                  P.S. My site is down , im still looking for some design help. I want to put something nice together. Hit me @ the e-mail above with your portfolio....I'm ready to move asap so i wont be waisting your time.
                                                                                                                                                                                  do a joomla site (joomla.org ) .
                                                                                                                                                                                  Tons of free templates you can modify to your needs.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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