Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
Thread Tools
Old 02-09-2005, 04:26 PM   #101
woj
<&(ĐŋĐ)&>
 
woj's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 47,882
100 who believe in God...
__________________
Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager
Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager
woj is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 04:29 PM   #102
pradaboy
sell me your banners
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: on the tubes
Posts: 12,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
No.

They die. We can prove that they are dead and havent gotten to live life, but we cant prove that they go to heaven or that there is a heaven.
Our incapabilities to prove or disprove something do not mean something doesn't exist
__________________
Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
FREE to register domains...
Better than 99% of the crap sold here!
pradaboy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 04:31 PM   #103
spideriux
Registered User
 
spideriux's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 17,227
I don't believe in God
__________________
FreeOnes
spideriux is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 04:32 PM   #104
Joe Citizen
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,552
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetaMan
every man on earth belives in God
I don't.
Joe Citizen is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 04:43 PM   #105
hydro
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Dirty 3rd
Posts: 4,216
oh damn another religious gfy thread. One thing is for sure though, if i was the creator of all life i wouldn't even think about saving people from drunk drivers, storms, fires etc since then everybody would expect something from me. I really hate overly religous people though, if you carry your bible with you i can tolerate it but if your telling me im going to hell because i scratched my nuts that pisses me off pretty bad.
hydro is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 04:54 PM   #106
Dagwolf
President of Canada
 
Dagwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo
Posts: 23,141
OMG you scratched your nuts? You're gonna get it for sure!
__________________
Sleep well, and dream of large women.

Dagwolf is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 05:09 PM   #107
PenisFace
Confirmed User
 
PenisFace's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 3,774
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetME
This topic is little sensative and complicated. I shouldn't respond to it, but I'll say that God punishes people through their loved ones sometimes. Kids die and are born handicaped is because God punishes their parents for whatever they've done wrong.
In that case, god is a the biggest cocksucker. Ever.
__________________
Need custom blog posts or articles? Hit me up: Blog And Article Writer

Yes, I can do any kind of custom orders, too!

ICQ: 641204000
PenisFace is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 05:14 PM   #108
Tipsy
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: See sig
Posts: 6,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by hydro
... i scratched my nuts...

You're so fucked it's untrue. It seems that not only are you going to hell but all your family will die and go there too because of your actions. You may as well quit now as you have no future!
__________________
Ignorance is never bliss.
Tipsy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 05:25 PM   #109
Elli
Reach for those stars!
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 17,991
(Exodus 34:6-7) - "Then the Lord passed by in front of him and proclaimed, "The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in lovingkindness and truth; who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations."

Seems a little unloving and unmerciful to me, if I was asked.
__________________
email: [email protected]
Elli is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 05:31 PM   #110
Skillz Unlimited
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Califor
Posts: 1,541
There is a higher being

There is a God. I'm not saying that a certain religions God is THE GOD but i know there is a higher being out there. Consider a few things:

1. How is it that all of our body parts work together to keep us alive?
2. How is it that when we break a bone or get a cut, our body is able to heal itself?
3. Even down to the places that we have hair like the eye lashes and nose, on our heads and chest and your pubic areas. Hair is placed in these places for reasons. It's either placed to keep these area's warm or to keep particles from getting in.


These things did not just happen by coincidence. The body was strategically built by something.
Skillz Unlimited is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 05:33 PM   #111
Tipsy
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: See sig
Posts: 6,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skillz Unlimited
There is a God. I'm not saying that a certain religions God is THE GOD but i know there is a higher being out there. Consider a few things:

1. How is it that all of our body parts work together to keep us alive?
2. How is it that when we break a bone or get a cut, our body is able to heal itself?
3. Even down to the places that we have hair like the eye lashes and nose, on our heads and chest and your pubic areas. Hair is placed in these places for reasons. It's either placed to keep these area's warm or to keep particles from getting in.


These things did not just happen by coincidence. The body was strategically built by something.
Take a 101 course in basic biology. Ignorance really isn't bliss despite so many thinking so around here.
__________________
Ignorance is never bliss.
Tipsy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 05:37 PM   #112
italianninja
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 564
What have you got to loose if you believe in god? Because if you die and he exists then all is good, if you die and you are simply dead then you havent lost anything.
italianninja is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 06:20 PM   #113
Nembrionic
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,424
Quote:
Originally Posted by dij
explain to me one thing,
How can god take away/punish all the innocent people?
You might say they weren't really innocent by your standards, and I can agree.
But what about children who are ages 1 month to 3 years, it's immpossible they could've do something so wrong to deserve death.

And what about children who are born handicapped an suffer the rest of their lives? How does that work?

All the people that believe in God are stupid.

Riddle me this:


The ONLY way to know about God is to HEAR about him from somebody else.
Either through a story or by reading the bible.

So...letīs say for experiment sake you get a kid, and make sure it nevers gets to hear anything about God.

The kid will never think out of the blue: hey, I better get praying for god will smite my sorry ass.



If God would exist, donīt you think he would have made it SELF EVIDENT that he existed WITHOUT a stupid bible?



Iīm sure all you godfearing people all of a sudden get deaf and come up with some silly excuses.
Nembrionic is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 10:08 PM   #114
rickholio
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Nor'easterland
Posts: 1,914
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddysGirl
"There's something in every atheist, itching to believe, and something in every believer, itching to doubt"
Heh, that's a great quote. Where's it from?

In my case it's certainly true. I'd love to KNOW, as I suspect many others would. However, I do not know, and the ludicrious amounts of counter-intuitive, counter-reality dogma I'd have to swallow in order to give myself over to a faith-based existance goes against every fibre of my being. At my core I'm a rational, reasoning and (I believe) reasonable person who preferrs facts to 'shutting off my brain' and living life in what I consider to be a lie.

It would appear that, barring some astonishing, life-altering experience, I shall forevermore take The Red Pill... regardless of how bleak those facts might be. Part of the geas of living a reality-based existance is that you start to develop a bit of a cassandra complex around the true believers, having the luxury of being outside the system and seeing the manipulation of those within. Eventually, as my personal value system evolved, I realized that it's pointless and even rude to try to coax those individuals back into these waters that they metaphorically consider labelled 'Here There Be Dragones." They choose to define their existance in ways other ordain, I chose another course... and while I would celebrate those who would chart a similar course to mine, I have no hate for those who would deny it.

If only that basic respect could trump the tribalistic us-vs-them mentality and was honoured by all, the world would be a far more pleasant place.

Elli: Thanks hun Always nice to be appreciated!

I'ma still kick your ass in air hockey tho
rickholio is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2005, 11:24 PM   #115
pradaboy
sell me your banners
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: on the tubes
Posts: 12,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nembrionic
All the people that believe in God are stupid.

Riddle me this:


The ONLY way to know about God is to HEAR about him from somebody else.
Either through a story or by reading the bible.

So...letīs say for experiment sake you get a kid, and make sure it nevers gets to hear anything about God.

The kid will never think out of the blue: hey, I better get praying for god will smite my sorry ass.



If God would exist, donīt you think he would have made it SELF EVIDENT that he existed WITHOUT a stupid bible?



Iīm sure all you godfearing people all of a sudden get deaf and come up with some silly excuses.

Judging people by their beliefs is REALLY stupid

God did not make it self-evident because that would eliminate the factor of actual BELIEF now wouldn't it? If you'd try to read the actual Book instead of calling it stupid (while you probably have NO clue of what it says) you might actually grasp the concept.
__________________
Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
FREE to register domains...
Better than 99% of the crap sold here!
pradaboy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 01:06 AM   #116
michel
TheHun's Yellow Pages!
 
michel's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 3,420
Quote:
Originally Posted by leedsfan
apparantly according to most right wingers in the states god doesnt like pornographers, so whether you believe in him or not, you're totally fucked mate. not going to heaven, do not pass go. go directly to hell.

Thank God, I don't live there....
michel is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 01:08 AM   #117
michel
TheHun's Yellow Pages!
 
michel's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 3,420
Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler
"...This isn't about proof, but believe..."

"...because their heart tells them to. Not because there's proof."

The voice of true rational and intelligent thinking
So does this mean you never felt love in your whole life? Hmmm, sorry to hear man
michel is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 08:39 AM   #118
Nembrionic
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,424
Quote:
Originally Posted by pradaboy
Judging people by their beliefs is REALLY stupid

God did not make it self-evident because that would eliminate the factor of actual BELIEF now wouldn't it? If you'd try to read the actual Book instead of calling it stupid (while you probably have NO clue of what it says) you might actually grasp the concept.

Thanks for proving you are one of the īdeafī ones.
I was raised with the bible. I donīt hate it. I think thereīs a lot of valuable īlessonsī hidden in it. But the thing itself is nonsens.

A ībeliefī is ALL that it is. Itīs something people WANT to believe in so deep down they donīt have to worry about anything since thereīs always an explanation: God.

It would eliminate the factor of belief right? By making it self-evident people would KNOW God exists. There would be no NEED for belief and HOPE that he exists. What more would God want?

God is supposed to be flawless. Well guess what? God IS flawless since he depends on the bible and the word of human beings. If that for some reason falls away, God wouldnīt īexistī.
Take some secluded tropical island for example. People never saw a bible, never heard about God (not THIS one).
So how on earth could they BELIEVE in God? By just all of a sudden īknowī about him?




BTW: judging people on their believes is stupid huh? Tell that to the insane amount of Christians that are talking shit about the Islam. "There is only one God" blablabla. Those people have their believes too ya know. Very fucking hypocrit.
Nembrionic is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 08:51 AM   #119
pradaboy
sell me your banners
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: on the tubes
Posts: 12,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nembrionic
Thanks for proving you are one of the īdeafī ones.
I was raised with the bible. I donīt hate it. I think thereīs a lot of valuable īlessonsī hidden in it. But the thing itself is nonsens.

A ībeliefī is ALL that it is. Itīs something people WANT to believe in so deep down they donīt have to worry about anything since thereīs always an explanation: God.

It would eliminate the factor of belief right? By making it self-evident people would KNOW God exists. There would be no NEED for belief and HOPE that he exists. What more would God want?

God is supposed to be flawless. Well guess what? God IS flawless since he depends on the bible and the word of human beings. If that for some reason falls away, God wouldnīt īexistī.
Take some secluded tropical island for example. People never saw a bible, never heard about God (not THIS one).
So how on earth could they BELIEVE in God? By just all of a sudden īknowī about him?




BTW: judging people on their believes is stupid huh? Tell that to the insane amount of Christians that are talking shit about the Islam. "There is only one God" blablabla. Those people have their believes too ya know. Very fucking hypocrit.
Who says I'm one of those Christians? By saying that people who believe in God are stupid you mean every single one, including me. I did not talk about other people judging Muslims or anything I merely pointed out that you are judging that I'm stupid because of my beliefs. I think you have to agree with me that that's not a very intelligent remark now is it?

I do not approve of "other" Christians judging other people but why do you bring this up? To justify your remark? "Yeh but he pushed me first" that's the kind of remark you made there

Why do you call me one of the "deaf" ones? If you think I am please make your point... I'm always interested to discuss anything as long as it's an intelligent discussion and there is no prejudice at play.

__________________
Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
FREE to register domains...
Better than 99% of the crap sold here!
pradaboy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 09:15 AM   #120
DaddysGirl
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Dirty South
Posts: 627
Im curious, for the people who dont believe in anything, how do you pattern your life? How do you decide between right and wrong? What guides you? What inspires you?
__________________
www.MacDaddyBucks.com $40 flat
Wanna laugh? www.fuckingthehelp.com
ICQ:307993589
DaddysGirl is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 09:17 AM   #121
Young
Bland for life
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 10,468
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddysGirl
Im curious, for the people who dont believe in anything, how do you pattern your life? How do you decide between right and wrong? What guides you? What inspires you?
Right and wrong was given to me by Catholic school and my parents. About 5 months ago the death of my girlfriend opened my eyes. It was like taking the fucking pill in the Matrix.

If there is a God....he is one fucked dude. Rape, Incest, Murder, Torture, Children getting killed, molested, beaten, exploited. Fuck the idea of God.
__________________
★★★
Young is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 09:31 AM   #122
yuvalus
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,906
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elli
There must be a god because you believe in/need a god? Well that's pretty tight logic. You got me. *rolls eyes*
It's simple
If there's no gosh, then after you die you just die
there's no afterlife, no heaven etc.
So why live? what is the difference between dying now and when you're 80 y.o.?
That's why atheist ppl commit more suicide then religous ppl. And currect me if I'm wrong.
__________________
Mail me: [email protected]
yuvalus is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 09:37 AM   #123
serguei
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hungary
Posts: 802
Belive yourself only!
__________________
RevshareCash.com
FREE HOSTED GALLERIES!
55% Payout! Unique content - Defloration, underwater nudity & naked gymnasts!
serguei is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 09:52 AM   #124
pradaboy
sell me your banners
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: on the tubes
Posts: 12,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by Young
Right and wrong was given to me by Catholic school and my parents. About 5 months ago the death of my girlfriend opened my eyes. It was like taking the fucking pill in the Matrix.

If there is a God....he is one fucked dude. Rape, Incest, Murder, Torture, Children getting killed, molested, beaten, exploited. Fuck the idea of God.
so everything that goes wrong is His fault, or if He existed there would be no pain/unhappiness?

That's shortsighted man, people have a free will to do whatever they want... THAT is what's causing the grief and pain in this world
__________________
Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
FREE to register domains...
Better than 99% of the crap sold here!
pradaboy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 10:01 AM   #125
project_naughty
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 568
Quote:
Originally Posted by dij
explain to me one thing,
How can god take away/punish all the innocent people?
You might say they weren't really innocent by your standards, and I can agree.
But what about children who are ages 1 month to 3 years, it's immpossible they could've do something so wrong to deserve death.

And what about children who are born handicapped an suffer the rest of their lives? How does that work?
God is not capable of punishing anyone. All god is capable of is creating the multiverse.
project_naughty is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 10:05 AM   #126
nico-t
emperor of my world
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: nethalands
Posts: 29,903
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetME
The main thing is to have a belief.
I pray so wars stop, so the earth could be peaceful
keep up the good work, its really helping
nico-t is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 10:26 AM   #127
Nembrionic
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,424
Quote:
Originally Posted by yuvalus
It's simple
If there's no gosh, then after you die you just die
there's no afterlife, no heaven etc.
So why live? what is the difference between dying now and when you're 80 y.o.?
That's why atheist ppl commit more suicide then religous ppl. And currect me if I'm wrong.

Your logic is flawed. Your are molding your arguments to fit your believes. Thatīs what I was talking about when I meant the īdeafī people.

You are bending your way of thinking.
Nembrionic is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 10:49 AM   #128
Nembrionic
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,424
Quote:
Originally Posted by pradaboy
Who says I'm one of those Christians? By saying that people who believe in God are stupid you mean every single one, including me. I did not talk about other people judging Muslims or anything I merely pointed out that you are judging that I'm stupid because of my beliefs. I think you have to agree with me that that's not a very intelligent remark now is it?

I do not approve of "other" Christians judging other people but why do you bring this up? To justify your remark? "Yeh but he pushed me first" that's the kind of remark you made there

Why do you call me one of the "deaf" ones? If you think I am please make your point... I'm always interested to discuss anything as long as it's an intelligent discussion and there is no prejudice at play.

Excuse me? Am I not entitled to an opinion? I think itīs shortsighted to just accept the bible as being true.
There are so many supernatural happenings and big stories in there which never happen in the current days. Lemme guess? God has grown tired of us and gave up? There is ALWAYS an explanation when it comes to religion.
Typical trait of legends....


I call you one of the īdeafī people because of your īself-evidentī remark. I explained my reasons in the same reply.
Nembrionic is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 01:08 PM   #129
yuvalus
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,906
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nembrionic
Your logic is flawed. Your are molding your arguments to fit your believes. Thatīs what I was talking about when I meant the īdeafī people.

You are bending your way of thinking.
I did not say this is the proof, and I don't want to start preachin.
I said that if ppl that don't believe will think about it, they will find that killing themselves is just like dying at the age of 80.
__________________
Mail me: [email protected]
yuvalus is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 01:50 PM   #130
Elli
Reach for those stars!
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 17,991
Quote:
Originally Posted by yuvalus
It's simple
If there's no gosh, then after you die you just die
there's no afterlife, no heaven etc.
So why live? what is the difference between dying now and when you're 80 y.o.?
That's why atheist ppl commit more suicide then religous ppl. And currect me if I'm wrong.
What is so wrong with death? I don't know what's "out there" any more or less than you do. Because (I don't think) there's any heaven or hell, I live my life doing what I think is right. I try to leave things better than when I found them, I do unto others as I would want them to do to me, and I try to be a better person. One day I hope to be old and wise and satisfied with my life, with few regrets. If I die at that point, who am I to complain? I had a pretty good kick at the cat, and I did what I could with it. No loss.

Why would I die sooner from a lack of belief in a monothestic God? Is the sin attached to suicide the only thing that's keeping Catholics alive? I highly doubt that.
__________________
email: [email protected]
Elli is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 01:51 PM   #131
Elli
Reach for those stars!
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 17,991
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickholio

Elli: Thanks hun Always nice to be appreciated!

I'ma still kick your ass in air hockey tho
I will pray to Ares and Athena before I enter the arena with you, and we shall see who the gods favour!
__________________
email: [email protected]
Elli is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 02:53 PM   #132
pradaboy
sell me your banners
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: on the tubes
Posts: 12,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nembrionic
Excuse me? Am I not entitled to an opinion? I think itīs shortsighted to just accept the bible as being true.
There are so many supernatural happenings and big stories in there which never happen in the current days. Lemme guess? God has grown tired of us and gave up? There is ALWAYS an explanation when it comes to religion.
Typical trait of legends....


I call you one of the īdeafī people because of your īself-evidentī remark. I explained my reasons in the same reply.
Again you go ahead and make assumptions as if you actually know me!

Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, but if you cannot defend it for 5 seconds that opinion is not worth much. You can call me "deaf" and I will call you "blind" for you do not see what goes on in this world
__________________
Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
FREE to register domains...
Better than 99% of the crap sold here!
pradaboy is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 03:23 PM   #133
SuckOnThis
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: In my head
Posts: 6,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nembrionic
All the people that believe in God are stupid.

Riddle me this:


The ONLY way to know about God is to HEAR about him from somebody else.
Either through a story or by reading the bible.

So...letīs say for experiment sake you get a kid, and make sure it nevers gets to hear anything about God.

The kid will never think out of the blue: hey, I better get praying for god will smite my sorry ass.



If God would exist, donīt you think he would have made it SELF EVIDENT that he existed WITHOUT a stupid bible?
Take a look around. The trees, the animals, the universe, everything in perfect harmony. Oh, but it all just happened by chance.

And if God was to make himself evident to the blind such as yourself people like you would be suing him for everything thats wrong in your life.
SuckOnThis is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 03:36 PM   #134
rickholio
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Nor'easterland
Posts: 1,914
Quote:
Originally Posted by pradaboy
so everything that goes wrong is His fault, or if He existed there would be no pain/unhappiness?

That's shortsighted man, people have a free will to do whatever they want... THAT is what's causing the grief and pain in this world
That seems a little arbitrary... when good things happen it goes to the "Glory of God", but when bad things happen we're responsible (or Jack Flash?) If we're responsible for the bad, then we should responsible for the good too... and if we're responsible for our own good, then God is irrelevant aside from being a comfortable illusion, as I had already mentioned.

It all comes down to predestination: If good and bad are all part of God's Great Plan(tm) and all our actions are predetermined and known, then we're all merely cogs in a great machine and the illusion of free will is the cruelest of all hoaxes. If there's no fate but what we make, then the only purpose for God is to set the peices in motion and has no control over, or reprocussions on, our existance as we know it.

In my opinion, even if we ARE predestined 100% to some great celestial clockwork orange, the illusion of free will is so complete as to make it indistinguishable for all practical purposes.. irrespective if I'm a man waking up from a dream of being a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming I'm a man, the end result is the same.

That's enough dime store philosophy from me for now, methinks. Maybe I should wander over to the classics bookshelf and reread a little Goethe.
rickholio is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 05:30 PM   #135
rambler
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: vancouver
Posts: 745
Quote:
Originally Posted by pradaboy
Again you go ahead and make assumptions as if you actually know me!

Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, but if you cannot defend it for 5 seconds that opinion is not worth much. You can call me "deaf" and I will call you "blind" for you do not see what goes on in this world
You must not understand english very well or you are just narrow minded( I suspect the latter).
rambler is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2005, 05:36 PM   #136
rambler
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: vancouver
Posts: 745
Quote:
Originally Posted by michel
So does this mean you never felt love in your whole life? Hmmm, sorry to hear man
Yah, thats it

Keep believing, it's your choice. I was just commenting on your defense of your beliefs... it sounded rather amusing.
rambler is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 08:49 PM   #137
Anthony
Keyboard Warrior
 
Anthony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: One of the outer rings of Hell
Posts: 9,653
I date religous women. Not one night goes by where I don't hear a prayer starting with "Oh GOD!"

__________________

Anthony is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 09:12 PM   #138
iwantchixx
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
iwantchixx's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Boonies
Posts: 12,860
Quote:
Originally Posted by dij
explain to me one thing,
How can god take away/punish all the innocent people?
You might say they weren't really innocent by your standards, and I can agree.
But what about children who are ages 1 month to 3 years, it's immpossible they could've do something so wrong to deserve death.

And what about children who are born handicapped an suffer the rest of their lives? How does that work?

the parent's sin is passed unto their children. that's just the way it is.
iwantchixx is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 09:36 PM   #139
Ian
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,259
"Religion is the opiate of the masses"

Karl Marx

Seems to me that religion is all about churches, "states", money, power and control.

Always has been.
Ian is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 09:52 PM   #140
MrJackMeHoff
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LOLLIPOP ISLAND =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posts: 4,569
If there is a God your all fucked and going to hell so stfu about it.
__________________
MrJackMeHoff is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 09:55 PM   #141
MrJackMeHoff
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LOLLIPOP ISLAND =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posts: 4,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuckOnThis
Take a look around. The trees, the animals, the universe, everything in perfect harmony. Oh, but it all just happened by chance.

And if God was to make himself evident to the blind such as yourself people like you would be suing him for everything thats wrong in your life.

Its called natural selection over millions of years and not too hard to figure out.. Where was God when the dinosaurs roamed the earth?
__________________
MrJackMeHoff is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 10:00 PM   #142
TooDoLittleIzALot
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 158
Bad shit happens to good people, children die or are born with diabilities etc. because WE ARE ALL SINNERS (and so this forum has proven), even children. Children are sinners, even though they are innocent because that damn ADAM & EVE bit a fuckin' apple! I DO BELIEVE WE ARE BEING PERMANTLY PUNISHED AND LABELED SINNERS BECAUSE ANOTHER ASS DID SOME WRONG BY HIS "FREE WILL"!!

Now as far as handicap children "suffering"...I don't know that they all do...if they were born that way they don't have experiences with any different for comparison!! Maybe some suffer. We suffer more seeing them like that I think.
TooDoLittleIzALot is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 10:13 PM   #143
SuckOnThis
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: In my head
Posts: 6,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff
Its called natural selection over millions of years and not too hard to figure out.. Where was God when the dinosaurs roamed the earth?

Huh? The universe, planets and nature being in synch is due to natural selection? What grade are you in?
SuckOnThis is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 10:17 PM   #144
ThunderBalls
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Mesosphere
Posts: 2,926
Quote:
Originally Posted by iwantchixx
the parent's sin is passed unto their children. that's just the way it is.

Thats about the dumbest shit I've heard all week.
ThunderBalls is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 10:20 PM   #145
SpaceAce
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Magrathea
Posts: 6,493
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nembrionic
All the people that believe in God are stupid.

Riddle me this:


The ONLY way to know about God is to HEAR about him from somebody else.
Either through a story or by reading the bible.

So...letīs say for experiment sake you get a kid, and make sure it nevers gets to hear anything about God.

The kid will never think out of the blue: hey, I better get praying for god will smite my sorry ass.



If God would exist, donīt you think he would have made it SELF EVIDENT that he existed WITHOUT a stupid bible?



Iīm sure all you godfearing people all of a sudden get deaf and come up with some silly excuses.
You have the nerve to accuse other people of being stupid then post something like this? Here's a riddle for your massive brain to chomp on: If what you said is true, where did the concept of God come from? Since no one left to their own devices would ever "... think out of the blue: hey, I better get praying for god will smite my sorry ass," then how did the concept of God ever reach its current state? Either your reasoning in the above post is wrong or you're wrong about God's existence. Either way, you should think twice about insulting the intelligence of people who don't agree with you when you've nothing to stand on, yourself.

SpaceAce
SpaceAce is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2005, 10:23 PM   #146
SpaceAce
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Magrathea
Posts: 6,493
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
"Religion is the opiate of the masses"

Karl Marx

Seems to me that religion is all about churches, "states", money, power and control.

Always has been.
There are a lot of people in this thread quoting philosophers, songwriters and anyone else they can think of. Just because someone said something doesn't make it true.

"Tofu is a snack food made from cat spleens." - SpaceAce

SpaceAce
SpaceAce is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2005, 07:54 AM   #147
Nembrionic
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,424
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceAce
Just because someone said something doesn't make it true.
Just because someone wrote something down doesnīt make it true either.
Nembrionic is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2005, 08:01 AM   #148
Nembrionic
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,424
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceAce
You have the nerve to accuse other people of being stupid then post something like this? Here's a riddle for your massive brain to chomp on: If what you said is true, where did the concept of God come from? Since no one left to their own devices would ever "... think out of the blue: hey, I better get praying for god will smite my sorry ass," then how did the concept of God ever reach its current state? Either your reasoning in the above post is wrong or you're wrong about God's existence. Either way, you should think twice about insulting the intelligence of people who don't agree with you when you've nothing to stand on, yourself.

SpaceAce
You have read my post carefully and yet you havenīt.
There were beliefs long before God came along.

People have the need to believe in something bigger so they donīt have to worry about the big things the donīt understand.

People have been believing in all kinds of gods.
Funny that NONE of these religions are selfevident and ALL are ONLY and I say again ONLY propagated through books, sculptures and talk.

NONE of these religions that EVOLVE over time have ever shown any evidence.

I say it again: God is flawed because he doesnīt exist if heīs not propagated through the means mentioned above.
Nembrionic is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2005, 08:14 AM   #149
Nembrionic
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,424
and thus he can not exist according to your own precious bible..
Nembrionic is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2005, 08:25 AM   #150
webseth
Confirmed User
 
webseth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 362
you cant prove a negative. the burden of proof is on the believers and they havent put up yet, so they should shut up
webseth is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright Đ 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.