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Originally Posted by pradaboy
so everything that goes wrong is His fault, or if He existed there would be no pain/unhappiness?
That's shortsighted man, people have a free will to do whatever they want... THAT is what's causing the grief and pain in this world
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That seems a little arbitrary... when good things happen it goes to the "Glory of God", but when bad things happen we're responsible (or Jack Flash?) If we're responsible for the bad, then we should responsible for the good too... and if we're responsible for our own good, then God is irrelevant aside from being a comfortable illusion, as I had already mentioned.
It all comes down to predestination: If good and bad are all part of God's Great Plan(tm) and all our actions are predetermined and known, then we're all merely cogs in a great machine and the illusion of free will is the cruelest of all hoaxes. If there's no fate but what we make, then the only purpose for God is to set the peices in motion and has no control over, or reprocussions on, our existance as we know it.
In my opinion, even if we ARE predestined 100% to some great celestial clockwork orange, the illusion of free will is so complete as to make it indistinguishable for all practical purposes.. irrespective if I'm a man waking up from a dream of being a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming I'm a man, the end result is the same.
That's enough dime store philosophy from me for now, methinks. Maybe I should wander over to the classics bookshelf and reread a little Goethe.
