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AaronM · 12-31-2004, 02:34 PM

I just wanted to say that the majority of the content providers who shoot exclusive solo girl content are shooting themselves in the foot....and others as well.

Yesterday I quoted a guy a price for 50 exclusive sets. The price I quoted was roughly 55% off my normal rates per set. As it turns out...Somebody else offered this person a similar deal for 70% less than my offer to him.

Now, I don't mind not getting that business...But I just don't understand the stupidity behind these prices. Either they are producing in a foreign country for pennies a set, not paying the models, or they are not making any profit. Maybe that's why so many content providers spam these boards every day.

This was the response after they received my quote.

"[02:47] EDITED: ok illbe frank thats a good price for nude, out of our range though, we got a deal for PRICE REMOVED prolly less quality yes
[02:48] AaronM: That's a great deal.
[02:48] EDITED: yes i know really appreciate you taking time, if we need new content and we got some more to spend ill certainly contact you

your pics are perfect
[02:49] AaronM: OK man., Thank you for considering it. Let me know if things change for you.
[02:49] EDITED: i will thanks and have fun tonite!"

This business and the people in it never cease to amaze me.

RRACY · 12-31-2004, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

I just wanted to say that the majority of the content providers who shoot exclusive solo girl content are shooting themselves in the foot....and others as well.

Yesterday I quoted a guy a price for 50 exclusive sets. The price I quoted was roughly 55% off my normal rates per set. As it turns out...Somebody else offered this person a similar deal for 70% less than my offer to him.

Now, I don't mind not getting that business...But I just don't understand the stupidity behind these prices. Either they are producing in a foreign country for pennies a set, not paying the models, or they are not making any profit. Maybe that's why so many content providers spam these boards every day.

This was the response after they received my quote.

"[02:47] EDITED: ok illbe frank thats a good price for nude, out of our range though, we got a deal for PRICE REMOVED prolly less quality yes
[02:48] AaronM: That's a great deal.
[02:48] EDITED: yes i know really appreciate you taking time, if we need new content and we got some more to spend ill certainly contact you

your pics are perfect
[02:49] AaronM: OK man., Thank you for considering it. Let me know if things change for you.
[02:49] EDITED: i will thanks and have fun tonite!"

This business and the people in it never cease to amaze me.

I know alot of sites won't pay shit for hardcore video but 120 a set isn't real bad. It depends on how many images per set. Any price under 5k for fifty sets is BS.

Ice · 12-31-2004, 02:53 PM

AaronM we have spoke about you doing custom shoots for us and for what you do it's very much in the ballpark of the other top content shooters.

You offer alot more the the "average" shooters and IMO is worth a few hundred bucks more. The old saying holds true.... "You get what you pay for"

The Other Steve · 12-31-2004, 02:59 PM

It happens with all types of content production. The people purchasing content for pennies are shooting themselves in the foot as well.

If they were prepared to pay a reasonable figure for content they could build up genuine long term relationships with quality producers. Instead they go for the cheapest they can get from producers who can't survive financially.

The end result is that they waste time looking for a new provider every time they need new content because the guy they used last time is out of business. You would think that they would learn their lesson but some of them never do.

abyss_al · 12-31-2004, 03:07 PM

some of these providers are morons.... it's turning into the 'designers' market issue... people doing it for too cheap, making the good ones look bad..

DeanCapture · 12-31-2004, 03:39 PM

I didn't mean to undercut you Aaron.... I just needed the business buddy

Seriously though - more often than not...cheap prices goes hand in hand with shitty service. I wouldn't be surprised if that guy get's back in touch with you fairly soon. Sooner or later he'll get tired of all the bullshit that goes along with cheap prices

Happy New Year my brotha' -

DeanCapture · 12-31-2004, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Other Steve

It happens with all types of content production. The people purchasing content for pennies are shooting themselves in the foot as well.

If they were prepared to pay a reasonable figure for content they could build up genuine long term relationships with quality producers. Instead they go for the cheapest they can get from producers who can't survive financially.

The end result is that they waste time looking for a new provider every time they need new content because the guy they used last time is out of business. You would think that they would learn their lesson but some of them never do.

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gregtx · 12-31-2004, 03:43 PM

yup... lots of foreign shooters have really driven down the costs... and with images.. tehy don't even need to speak english.. so its that much easier to shoot over seas... outsourcing of content to foreign lands.. lets blame GWBUSH ;)

PhotoGreggXXX · 12-31-2004, 04:46 PM

Cracks me up on some the prices I've heard 'wanna be' producers pumping out stuff for. We've had shooters rent our studio or house, and of course I find out what they're getting for the shoots...enough to pay the talent, the rental and a few hundred bucks.

Thing is they're okay with doing 3-5 shoots like that a week. They don't have any staff, any overhead, so 750-1000 a week is okay for them.

Our going rates for hardcore reality are 2000-3000, depending on talent, degree of difficulty, how much editing, encoding, stills, teasers/trailers, etc.

Been that rate since we did the 1st episode for MilfSeeker almost 3 years ago. My costs haven't changed and neither have the prices to customers.

Don't worry Aaron, people like us always have plenty of biz, let the new guys have a few cookies too

NaughtyRob · 12-31-2004, 04:47 PM

I agree. We have a dollar figure that we will never go below for custom exclusive. Otherwise its a waste of time.

AaronM · 12-31-2004, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RRACY

I know alot of sites won't pay shit for hardcore video but 120 a set isn't real bad. It depends on how many images per set. Any price under 5k for fifty sets is BS.

$120 per set sucks. I wouldn't pick up my camera for that.

abyss_al · 12-31-2004, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

$120 per set sucks. I wouldn't pick up my camera for that.

120/set is wack! even for non-exclusive it's wack!

12-31-2004, 02:34 PM	#1
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Pricing for exclusive content. I just wanted to say that the majority of the content providers who shoot exclusive solo girl content are shooting themselves in the foot....and others as well. Yesterday I quoted a guy a price for 50 exclusive sets. The price I quoted was roughly 55% off my normal rates per set. As it turns out...Somebody else offered this person a similar deal for 70% less than my offer to him. Now, I don't mind not getting that business...But I just don't understand the stupidity behind these prices. Either they are producing in a foreign country for pennies a set, not paying the models, or they are not making any profit. Maybe that's why so many content providers spam these boards every day. This was the response after they received my quote. "[02:47] EDITED: ok illbe frank thats a good price for nude, out of our range though, we got a deal for PRICE REMOVED prolly less quality yes [02:48] AaronM: That's a great deal. [02:48] EDITED: yes i know really appreciate you taking time, if we need new content and we got some more to spend ill certainly contact you your pics are perfect [02:49] AaronM: OK man., Thank you for considering it. Let me know if things change for you. [02:49] EDITED: i will thanks and have fun tonite!" This business and the people in it never cease to amaze me.

12-31-2004, 02:53 PM	#3
Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	AaronM we have spoke about you doing custom shoots for us and for what you do it's very much in the ballpark of the other top content shooters. You offer alot more the the "average" shooters and IMO is worth a few hundred bucks more. The old saying holds true.... "You get what you pay for" __________________ icq 1904905

12-31-2004, 02:59 PM	#4
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	It happens with all types of content production. The people purchasing content for pennies are shooting themselves in the foot as well. If they were prepared to pay a reasonable figure for content they could build up genuine long term relationships with quality producers. Instead they go for the cheapest they can get from producers who can't survive financially. The end result is that they waste time looking for a new provider every time they need new content because the guy they used last time is out of business. You would think that they would learn their lesson but some of them never do. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

12-31-2004, 03:07 PM	#5
abyss_al LOOKING FOR TRADES Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 15,605	some of these providers are morons.... it's turning into the 'designers' market issue... people doing it for too cheap, making the good ones look bad.. __________________ EMAIL: allen @ vasmediagroup.com \| ICQ: 311329761 \| SKYPE: abyss.al \| AIM: xABYSSxALx

12-31-2004, 03:39 PM	#6
DeanCapture Haters & Trolls SUCK! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,275	I didn't mean to undercut you Aaron.... I just needed the business buddy Seriously though - more often than not...cheap prices goes hand in hand with shitty service. I wouldn't be surprised if that guy get's back in touch with you fairly soon. Sooner or later he'll get tired of all the bullshit that goes along with cheap prices Happy New Year my brotha' - __________________ Twitter: @DeanCapture Instagram: @TheDeanCapture DeanCapture "at" Gmail.com

12-31-2004, 03:43 PM	#8
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	yup... lots of foreign shooters have really driven down the costs... and with images.. tehy don't even need to speak english.. so its that much easier to shoot over seas... outsourcing of content to foreign lands.. lets blame GWBUSH ;) __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

12-31-2004, 04:46 PM	#9
PhotoGreggXXX Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,616	Cracks me up on some the prices I've heard 'wanna be' producers pumping out stuff for. We've had shooters rent our studio or house, and of course I find out what they're getting for the shoots...enough to pay the talent, the rental and a few hundred bucks. Thing is they're okay with doing 3-5 shoots like that a week. They don't have any staff, any overhead, so 750-1000 a week is okay for them. Our going rates for hardcore reality are 2000-3000, depending on talent, degree of difficulty, how much editing, encoding, stills, teasers/trailers, etc. Been that rate since we did the 1st episode for MilfSeeker almost 3 years ago. My costs haven't changed and neither have the prices to customers. Don't worry Aaron, people like us always have plenty of biz, let the new guys have a few cookies too __________________ PornPayouts! Tons of Exclusive new HI Dev Videos... Home of the WeDo Girls! e-mail: [email protected] ICQ - 138-053-157

12-31-2004, 04:47 PM	#10
NaughtyRob Two fresh affiliate progs Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Inside teen pussy Posts: 29,602	I agree. We have a dollar figure that we will never go below for custom exclusive. Otherwise its a waste of time. __________________ [email protected] Skype: 17026955414 Vacares Web Hosting - Protect Your Ass with Included Daily Backups