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Donny · 12-10-2004, 01:35 PM

You'd have a hard time proving slander or any sort of damage to your business in a court of law. If you think you can do it, go for it. I think it's a waste of money.

Again, it is GARY's site. You mentioned "freedom of speech" in a previous post. This is Gary's freedom of speech. Pure and simple.

ronaldo · 12-10-2004, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
But he won't let me into ASACP. Why? Because of www.TeenKarma.com . I'm a partner in that site. Gary feels the model looks too young (even though she's 21 years old).

Gary feels the same way about many of Steve's girls. He feels they are made to look younger than they are.

Obviously, I disagree with some of Gary's points of view or I wouldn't own TeenKarma.com. But Gary practices consistency, even if you're a friend of his.

What would your feelings be if searching for teenkarma sent surfers to the ASACP as opposed to the default page?

If you're being objective, would you not agree that THAT would be more consistent?

RawAlex · 12-10-2004, 01:39 PM

Donovan, Gary exact actions in blocking you from ASACP is only a side part of the issue. If i go to sex.com and serch for "TEEN KARMA" or "TEENKARMA" I get the default search page (with napster of porn and others). I search for lightspeed, and I get ONLY the link to ASACP. Obviously, while Gary feels (in your words) that Teen Karma is a bad site, he still doesn't actively filter the term like he filters out the Lightspeed stuff.

That isn't consistancy, that is done with intent. What image it leaves the public with is fairly obvous.

the ASACP situation is just as bad: If all your models are 18, if your paperwork is in line, and you are legal, then they should have no issue with you. By having the organization that supposedly represents the online industry refuse you membership because they question your content could lead to the government making the same assumption. In a very real way, they have basically said "we are not sure about this donovan guy", because if they were sure, they would allow you to be a member and to support the cause.

Using subjective rather than objective rules to approve or disapprove membership to what should be one of the most important organizations in the business is, IMHO, a flawed way of selecting those that are worthy.

I hope that Joan now takes the time to look at the situation that has been created, and move to a more subjective approach so that membership in this organization can be encouraged, not discouraged.

Alex

Rich · 12-10-2004, 01:39 PM

http://www.asacp.com/ASACP_Directory.php?level=Guardian

ASACP Member Directory- Guardian

yambo.biz

How many times have they been busted billing for child porn?

Donny · 12-10-2004, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronaldo
What would your feelings be if searching for teenkarma sent surfers to the ASACP as opposed to the default page?

If you're being objective, would you not agree that THAT would be more consistent?

Again, it's Gary's site and he can do as he wishes. I would not be offended. Seriously.

Donny · 12-10-2004, 01:44 PM

As Gary mentioned earlier, this has been happening for more than 2 years and Steve is only seeing it right now. Obviously there aren't many people searching for his sites on sex.com or he would have heard about it long ago. So chill already.

Steve and Gary hate each other. Gary usually "gets one over" on Steve more than Steve does Gary. It looks like Steve finally got something with some meat to it that he can use against Gary. It's gone 4 pages already.

Congratulations, Steve.

EDIT TO ADD: Your business isn't being harmed by this. That being the case, this is really only a case of whining. I personally find it rather amusing.

RawAlex · 12-10-2004, 01:45 PM

Then you have really thick skin. You don't mind someone saying in public that you are possibly involved in CP?

Come off it!

Alex

TheEbonyFelony · 12-10-2004, 01:46 PM

its public knowledge donny has his head up gary's ass

ronaldo · 12-10-2004, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Again, it's Gary's site and he can do as he wishes. I would not be offended. Seriously.

Fair enough. I'll grant you it's his site.

Do you believe it's a conflict of interest for him to sit on the ASACP board and have people using HIS search engine to send complaints to the ASACP, over personal animosity?

Donny · 12-10-2004, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawAlex
Then you have really thick skin. You don't mind someone saying in public that you are possibly involved in CP?

Come off it!

Alex

I've had people say that before about the TeenKarma.com site. Gary was one of them. It doesn't bother me. I simply disagree with him and he shuts up.

Gary loves to give Steve shit because he gets the reaction from Steve that is evident here.

GARY, I'M MAKING A REQUEST! PLEASE SHOW THE ASACP SITE IN SEARCH RESULTS FOR TEEN KARMA!

There. Now calm the fuck down. Who fucking cares? Really!

Donny · 12-10-2004, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
its public knowledge donny has his head up gary's ass

Yep. I even said so myself earlier in the thread. Tell these people something they don't know.

broke · 12-10-2004, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Yep. I even said so myself earlier in the thread. Tell these people something they don't know.

Donnie -- what's the link to your content again?

Never mind. I have it.

P.S.

Don't forget...

It's my site and I can do whatever I want on MY site.

Donny · 12-10-2004, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
Donnie -- what's the link to your content again?

Never mind. I have it.

P.S.

Don't forget...

It's my site and I can do whatever I want on MY site.

You can indeed. But you can't use my content. That would be a copyright violation.

You can, however, say whatever you wish.

NBDesign · 12-10-2004, 02:00 PM

Well, for what it's worth, not that anyone rreally cares what I think... I have to say as an unbiased reader of this.... I mean I don't know the people at sex.com... and steve... well you know how I feel about you so you know this is unbiased when I say....

Yeah, to fuck with someone's business is not cool.....

..... but I have to admit... it is funny as hell...

broke · 12-10-2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
You can indeed. But you can't use my content. That would be a copyright violation.

You can, however, say whatever you wish.

But it's MY SITE...

Are you saying I can't violate state and federal law on MY SITE? Are you saying I don't have complete control? Are you saying I can't defame you and your content on my site?

That's a damn shame...

If only your 'friends' followed the same rules...

jscott · 12-10-2004, 02:06 PM

damn! this is some crazy shit!

Donny · 12-10-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronaldo
Do you believe it's a conflict of interest for him to sit on the ASACP board and have people using HIS search engine to send complaints to the ASACP, over personal animosity?

I doubt if anyone has sent a complaint to ASACP about Steve's sites after finding the link on sex.com.

The personal animosity is well known. This is not new.

There are sites all over the net where animosity is expressed. Unless a person is a complete moron they can see right through it.

That is the case here. If there was a way to prove it I would be willing to bet money that no one has come to the conclusion that Lightspeed runs pedo sites because of the sex.com search results.

Has anyone here come to that conclusion from those results? Anyone? Anyone? Neither have the surfers. I'd also be willing to bet the average surfer is of higher intelligence than most of today's adult webmasters.

Again, chill! This is only the internet.

Donny · 12-10-2004, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
But it's MY SITE...

Are you saying I can't violate state and federal law on MY SITE? Are you saying I don't have complete control? Are you saying I can't defame you and your content on my site?

That's a damn shame...

If only your 'friends' followed the same rules...

You need to take a logic class. The two do not even compare.

You can say all you want about my sites and my content. But you cannot steal from me.

Gary is not using Steve's content illegally.

broke · 12-10-2004, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
You need to take a logic class. The two do not even compare.

You can say all you want about my sites and my content. But you cannot steal from me.

Gary is not using Steve's content illegally.

God -- you are retarded.

Go back to defending your 'buddies' crimes.

Do you really want to bet that I can't find one person that thought Steve's sites are affiliated with CP after getting hit with Gary's search results?

ONE PERSON is all it takes to prove damages.

Kimmykim · 12-10-2004, 02:19 PM

Donovan, it's nice that you stick up for your friend Gary, but at this point, your image would be better served by shutting up. Your argument isn't logical, telling someone else they are being illogical is ridiculous.

The ISSUE here is that Gary did something extremely juvenile, and given his position on the board of ASACP, people assumed that ASACP either knew of, or even condoned, his actions.

This is not the case. I have spoken with Joan about this issue PRIOR to any of this coming up. Not the sex.com results, but the animosity between Gary and Steve, and how it produces a negative effect on ASACP with Gary sitting on the board and giving people the impression that his actions are either sanctioned or appreciated by ASACP.

IMO, Gary owes some apologies. Steve, Joan and ASACP, as well as the webmaster community at large, and he should apologize for being a juvenile ass.

SteveLightspeed · 12-10-2004, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
God -- you are retarded.

Go back to defending your 'buddies' crimes.

Do you really want to bet that I can't find one person that thought Steve's sites are affiliated with CP after getting hit with Gary's search results?

ONE PERSON is all it takes to prove damages.

I have one, I just gave his phone number to my attorney.

SteveLightspeed · 12-10-2004, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign
not that anyone rreally cares what I think...

How perceptive of you.

Steve Lightspeed

ronaldo · 12-10-2004, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Donovan, it's nice that you stick up for your friend Gary, but at this point, your image would be better served by shutting up. Your argument isn't logical, telling someone else they are being illogical is ridiculous.

The ISSUE here is that Gary did something extremely juvenile, and given his position on the board of ASACP, people assumed that ASACP either knew of, or even condoned, his actions.

This is not the case. I have spoken with Joan about this issue PRIOR to any of this coming up. Not the sex.com results, but the animosity between Gary and Steve, and how it produces a negative effect on ASACP with Gary sitting on the board and giving people the impression that his actions are either sanctioned or appreciated by ASACP.

IMO, Gary owes some apologies. Steve, Joan and ASACP, as well as the webmaster community at large, and he should apologize for being a juvenile ass.

I've always been a big fan and supporter of the ASACP, but after reading this thread I started to have serious questions about their agenda and whether or not it was the right organization and/or people in charge to do the job they claim to do.

This post helped me believe that some respected members of our community have the same concerns, as well as the ear of those in question.

Hopefully an adjustment to the situation will be made, or the ASACP is in danger of losing alot of credibility in the eyes of the very sites they claim to represent.

NBDesign · 12-10-2004, 02:32 PM

well... good to see you havn't changed... still an asshole.

I can see why people like fucking with you.

~take care

davethetruth · 12-10-2004, 02:33 PM

Is "Lightspeed" trademarked, or just "Lightspeed Girls"?

SleazyDream · 12-10-2004, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Donovan, it's nice that you stick up for your friend Gary, but at this point, your image would be better served by shutting up. Your argument isn't logical, telling someone else they are being illogical is ridiculous.

The ISSUE here is that Gary did something extremely juvenile, and given his position on the board of ASACP, people assumed that ASACP either knew of, or even condoned, his actions.

This is not the case. I have spoken with Joan about this issue PRIOR to any of this coming up. Not the sex.com results, but the animosity between Gary and Steve, and how it produces a negative effect on ASACP with Gary sitting on the board and giving people the impression that his actions are either sanctioned or appreciated by ASACP.

IMO, Gary owes some apologies. Steve, Joan and ASACP, as well as the webmaster community at large, and he should apologize for being a juvenile ass.

i agree. well said Kim

TheGoldenChild · 12-10-2004, 02:41 PM

I just AIMED Gary and he told me he is immediately banning Littleapril.com

At least he is trying to stay consistent.
I believe he had NO IDEA whatsoever that the site was even listed on sex.com

gkremen · 12-10-2004, 02:42 PM

kk - fyi as I said before I am no longer associated with www.asacp.org in any way, shape or kind. Thus Steve Jones should have no issues with the organization.

Niko Bimini · 12-10-2004, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Some people should put in a few more years before thinking they have any sort of leverage. Gary won't miss your business.

Thanks for the advice Donavan. I can't tell you how much I look forward to the day when you will show up at a show and share your wisdom with me face to face!

Please make that happen soon!

Like I am thinkng Vegas would be good!

Donny · 12-10-2004, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bimini
Thanks for the advice Donavan. I can't tell you how much I look forward to the day when you will show up at a show and share your wisdom with me face to face!

Please make that happen soon! Like I am thinkng Vegas would be good!

If I decide to go to 'Vegas I'll make sure to do so.

Donny · 12-10-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Donovan, it's nice that you stick up for your friend Gary, but at this point, your image would be better served by shutting up. Your argument isn't logical, telling someone else they are being illogical is ridiculous.

What is illogical about "It is Gary's site. He can do with it as he pleases."??

If Steve doesn't like Gary's decisions he can sue him.

That's pretty simple. And logical.

In the meantime, Steve can continue being butt hurt and whining. That's his right.

Donny · 12-10-2004, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gkremen
kk - fyi as I said before I am no longer associated with www.asacp.org in any way, shape or kind. Thus Steve Jones should have no issues with the organization.

There you have it.

Niko Bimini · 12-10-2004, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
If I decide to go to 'Vegas I'll make sure to do so.

You just keep doing what you have been and I will keep waiting and hoping for you to show up.

It's alright Donny I am very patient.

The day will come. I promise you.

Donny · 12-10-2004, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bimini
You just keep doing what you have been and I will keep waiting and hoping for you to show up.

It's alright Donny I am very patient.

The day will come. I promise you.

Man, do you really think I am so childish as to post threats on a board. If we meet, we meet. If you decide to swing you decide to swing.

All you're doing is proving that you still need a few more years to mature, as I said before.

Kimmykim · 12-10-2004, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
What is illogical about "It is Gary's site. He can do with it as he pleases."??

If Steve doesn't like Gary's decisions he can sue him.

That's pretty simple. And logical.

In the meantime, Steve can continue being butt hurt and whining. That's his right.

Well, my original thought was to post, "wow, you're still in third grade!" -- BUT that would have been dropping myself a few notches to your level.

Bow out gracefully, before you give people an even worse impression of you than they might have gotten in the last couple of pages.

Niko Bimini · 12-10-2004, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Man, do you really think I am so childish as to post threats on a board. If we meet, we meet. If you decide to swing you decide to swing.

All you're doing is proving that you still need a few more years to mature, as I said before.

I don't post threats Donny.

I wait.

And I promise.

C ya soon!

Donny · 12-10-2004, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Well, my original thought was to post, "wow, you're still in third grade!" -- BUT that would have been dropping myself a few notches to your level.

Bow out gracefully, before you give people an even worse impression of you than they might have gotten in the last couple of pages.

Are you still working for someone else Kimmy? What, no business sense to work for yourself?

This thread is ridiculous. People say things about others. That's the way life goes.

Do you think GFY can be held accountable for the slanderous remarks many of its posters have made against George Bush?

Donny · 12-10-2004, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bimini
I don't post threats Donny.

I wait.

And I promise.

C ya soon!

Grow up. Like I said, if we meet, we meet. If you swing, you swing. It won't be a very wise decision, but it's a decision you're free to make.

You're quite the business man. Take a look around and learn. Have you seen Lensman, Sleazy, Shemp, etc EVER make threats? Why, because that's not the way businessmen act.

Like I said, come back in a few years when you've learned a little about being a business man.

TheGoldenChild · 12-10-2004, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Are you still working for someone else Kimmy? What, no business sense to work for yourself?

This thread is ridiculous. People say things about others. That's the way life goes.

Do you think GFY can be held accountable for the slanderous remarks many of its posters have made against George Bush?

Man, Donny

You really are an idiot
George Bush=public figure

people on this board= private citizens with nothing better to do

Donny · 12-10-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kBizzle
Man, Donny

You really are an idiot
George Bush=public figure

people on this board= private citizens with nothing better to do

George Bush=public figure

Exactly. Now tell me, do you think Lightspeed could be considered a "public figure"?

Any good attorney can easily make that case. And Gary has plenty.

Like I said, ridiculous thread.

WiredGuy · 12-10-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Are you still working for someone else Kimmy? What, no business sense to work for yourself?

This thread is ridiculous. People say things about others. That's the way life goes.

Do you think GFY can be held accountable for the slanderous remarks many of its posters have made against George Bush?

What does someone's employment have to do with this thread?

What is important behind this thread is Gary's systemmatic association of lightspeed related keywords with child pornography. Gary could simply have returned no results or the default search results but he purposely grouped these searches with the same results you would get for a CP related search.

WG

TheGoldenChild · 12-10-2004, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
George Bush=public figure

Exactly. Now tell me, do you think Lightspeed could be considered a "public figure"?

Any good attorney can easily make that case. And Gary has plenty.

Like I said, ridiculous thread.

"Exactly. Now tell me, do you think Lightspeed could be considered a "public figure"?

NO

TheShark · 12-10-2004, 03:56 PM

Correct. Lightspeed is not a "public figure" as that term is used WRT defamation.

Quote:

Originally posted by kBizzle
"Exactly. Now tell me, do you think Lightspeed could be considered a "public figure"?

NO

Donny · 12-10-2004, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
What does someone's employment have to do with this thread?

Nothing. I just get tired of hearing people spout off when they have no business sense whatsoever. It's irritating. It's even more irritating if you've been around these people and witnessed their attitude. People who can't work for themselves, yet think they know the industry inside and out. EEEERRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!

Just a personal opinion that probably should have remained unspoken.

Quote:

What is important behind this thread is Gary's systemmatic association of lightspeed related keywords with child pornography. Gary could simply have returned no results or the default search results but he purposely grouped these searches with the same results you would get for a CP related search.

You are right, of course.

But I still think it's ridiculous. So much so, that I have asked Gary to associate search terms of one of my sites with the same result that Steve's sites receive.

Who really fucking cares what Gary thinks of Steve's sites? Nobody really thinks Steve produces Pedo Sites. Everyone here knows this is just a personal thing. Have you seen a SINGLE person that has posted "Geez, I didn't realize Steve was pushing CP!" No? Really? Are you sure?

Sue him and get it over with. Geez.

Donny · 12-10-2004, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheShark
Correct. Lightspeed is not a "public figure" as that term is used WRT defamation.

Here you go, Steve. An adult industry legal specialist.

the Shemp · 12-10-2004, 04:01 PM

are Little April galleries taboo? i dont want to have a problem when i apply for an ASACP membership.....

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-10-2004, 04:03 PM

Fuckit...

Call the attornies.

Slander!!
Libal!!

Damages!
$$$

Donny · 12-10-2004, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Fuckit...

Call the attornies.

Slander!!
Libal!!

Damages!
$$$

Exactly!

GonZo · 12-10-2004, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kBizzle
Man, Donny

You really are an idiot
George Bush=public figure

people on this board= private citizens with nothing better to do

KB congrats on your continued success with Mens Niche. You found your calling.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-10-2004, 04:25 PM

In the most black and white sense...

Lightspeed is NOT CP.

ASACP Deals with ASACP "Things" not gray matter but legit fact on CP and illegal content. Inferring otherwise on a Legal business with no background in CP...

Woooo

Big money...

BIG.

12-10-2004, 01:44 PM	#156
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	As Gary mentioned earlier, this has been happening for more than 2 years and Steve is only seeing it right now. Obviously there aren't many people searching for his sites on sex.com or he would have heard about it long ago. So chill already. Steve and Gary hate each other. Gary usually "gets one over" on Steve more than Steve does Gary. It looks like Steve finally got something with some meat to it that he can use against Gary. It's gone 4 pages already. Congratulations, Steve. EDIT TO ADD: Your business isn't being harmed by this. That being the case, this is really only a case of whining. I personally find it rather amusing. Last edited by DonovanPhillips; 12-10-2004 at 01:46 PM..

12-10-2004, 01:46 PM	#158
TheEbonyFelony Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hidden village of the sand..TRAINING TO KILL NARUTO Posts: 1,964	its public knowledge donny has his head up gary's ass __________________ no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

12-10-2004, 02:00 PM	#164
NBDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell Posts: 5,814	Well, for what it's worth, not that anyone rreally cares what I think... I have to say as an unbiased reader of this.... I mean I don't know the people at sex.com... and steve... well you know how I feel about you so you know this is unbiased when I say.... Yeah, to fuck with someone's business is not cool..... ..... but I have to admit... it is funny as hell... __________________ Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic. Get Heidi for your site Here. Lots of sets to choose from. She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All.

12-10-2004, 02:32 PM	#174
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12-10-2004, 02:33 PM	#175
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12-10-2004, 01:35 PM	#151
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	You'd have a hard time proving slander or any sort of damage to your business in a court of law. If you think you can do it, go for it. I think it's a waste of money. Again, it is GARY's site. You mentioned "freedom of speech" in a previous post. This is Gary's freedom of speech. Pure and simple.

12-10-2004, 01:39 PM	#153
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Donovan, Gary exact actions in blocking you from ASACP is only a side part of the issue. If i go to sex.com and serch for "TEEN KARMA" or "TEENKARMA" I get the default search page (with napster of porn and others). I search for lightspeed, and I get ONLY the link to ASACP. Obviously, while Gary feels (in your words) that Teen Karma is a bad site, he still doesn't actively filter the term like he filters out the Lightspeed stuff. That isn't consistancy, that is done with intent. What image it leaves the public with is fairly obvous. the ASACP situation is just as bad: If all your models are 18, if your paperwork is in line, and you are legal, then they should have no issue with you. By having the organization that supposedly represents the online industry refuse you membership because they question your content could lead to the government making the same assumption. In a very real way, they have basically said "we are not sure about this donovan guy", because if they were sure, they would allow you to be a member and to support the cause. Using subjective rather than objective rules to approve or disapprove membership to what should be one of the most important organizations in the business is, IMHO, a flawed way of selecting those that are worthy. I hope that Joan now takes the time to look at the situation that has been created, and move to a more subjective approach so that membership in this organization can be encouraged, not discouraged. Alex

12-10-2004, 01:39 PM	#154
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	http://www.asacp.com/ASACP_Directory.php?level=Guardian ASACP Member Directory- Guardian yambo.biz How many times have they been busted billing for child porn?

12-10-2004, 01:45 PM	#157
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Then you have really thick skin. You don't mind someone saying in public that you are possibly involved in CP? Come off it! Alex

12-10-2004, 02:06 PM	#166
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	damn! this is some crazy shit!

12-10-2004, 02:19 PM	#170
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Donovan, it's nice that you stick up for your friend Gary, but at this point, your image would be better served by shutting up. Your argument isn't logical, telling someone else they are being illogical is ridiculous. The ISSUE here is that Gary did something extremely juvenile, and given his position on the board of ASACP, people assumed that ASACP either knew of, or even condoned, his actions. This is not the case. I have spoken with Joan about this issue PRIOR to any of this coming up. Not the sex.com results, but the animosity between Gary and Steve, and how it produces a negative effect on ASACP with Gary sitting on the board and giving people the impression that his actions are either sanctioned or appreciated by ASACP. IMO, Gary owes some apologies. Steve, Joan and ASACP, as well as the webmaster community at large, and he should apologize for being a juvenile ass.

12-10-2004, 02:41 PM	#177
TheGoldenChild Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pacific Palisades Posts: 6,940	I just AIMED Gary and he told me he is immediately banning Littleapril.com At least he is trying to stay consistent. I believe he had NO IDEA whatsoever that the site was even listed on sex.com __________________

12-10-2004, 02:42 PM	#178
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12-10-2004, 04:01 PM	#196
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	are Little April galleries taboo? i dont want to have a problem when i apply for an ASACP membership..... __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

12-10-2004, 04:03 PM	#197
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Fuckit... Call the attornies. Slander!! Libal!! Damages! $$$ __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

12-10-2004, 04:25 PM	#200
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	In the most black and white sense... Lightspeed is NOT CP. ASACP Deals with ASACP "Things" not gray matter but legit fact on CP and illegal content. Inferring otherwise on a Legal business with no background in CP... Woooo Big money... BIG. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|