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Old 12-09-2004, 05:41 PM   #101
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Old 12-09-2004, 05:46 PM   #102
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Kinda low action. Strange that some ppl can't split personal and business issues.
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Old 12-09-2004, 05:48 PM   #103
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Gary, isn't it time for you to retire with the rest of the industry dinosaurs anyway?

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Old 12-09-2004, 05:49 PM   #104
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Old 12-09-2004, 05:52 PM   #105
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I'm sitting here shaking my head, this is actually humorous now. I think we just heard the ghetto-rich version of "its my ball, so I make the rules" didn't we? Odd Gary, you had a lot of time to discuss YOUR PROBLEMS with me in Curacao, but you are too much of a fucking pussy I guess to talk man to man.

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Old 12-09-2004, 06:42 PM   #106
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Gary, don't know you but this is really damn sad to hear and read about.

Even if its just a little problem with sex.com I would be on the damn horn working it right out with them. Your org should be above even having someone misslead to your door.

what the hell does a serch for lightspeed have to do with you ?
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:54 PM   #107
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Baddog, thanks for clarifying a few things above.
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:03 PM   #108
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:07 PM   #111
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dont exagerate about very serious matters such as this, i think you are lying

sex + under 18 = cp, make sure that you have your facts straight before you accuse
I believe him, the EXACT same thing has happened to us.
I will see if I still have the Email that I was sent...
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:59 PM   #112
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1) What is on the result set of http://www.sex.com has nothing to do with http://www.asacp.org. I am on the board because I care about prevention of the core issue of ASACP, child pornography and as I write the industry's biggest check to the organization. If you want to write a bigger check than I do, I will immediately resign and you can take my place.

2) Is someone does not like it and want to sue us if they feeling we are "defaming them," it is a free country. Our agent of process is http://kepler.ss.ca.gov/corpdata/Sho...=200033710058. All I can say is bring it on...

3) Our results have been the same for the questioned catagories for at least TWO YEARS. Is someone a little slow at the switch.

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> sex.com isn't a great converter, they feature their links (like ??
> Overture) on many "partner" sites. Some are highly
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Gary I don't know you, have never met you, and have never had anything to do with you. And this reponse insures that I never will know you, or do business with your company.


Someone who sits on the board of an organization set up to stop CP....................linking a LightSpeed site to ASACP the very organization he sits on the board of.......................and then posting this response basically waving arrogance in the face of anyone who has questioned you in this thread???

Telling us all that if we want to "cut a bigger check than you" you will gladly step down?????

Is the agenda to protect children and stop CP? Or is the agenda to carry out personal vendettas against those you don't like in the industry?

I can tell you that as long as GARY is involved and by his own admission controling the puppet strings of ASACP than I will never join or contribute in any way.

Now I realize that I am not in a position to "buy Gary" out of his board seat........................but there are alot of mid sized players out there like me that HAVE to be as offended as I am at your comments.

To Joan I am sorry but I don't see how ASACP will ever have any credibility within the industry while this person is a part of it.
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:24 PM   #113
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Gary I don't know you, have never met you, and have never had anything to do with you. And this reponse insures that I never will know you, or do business with your company.


Someone who sits on the board of an organization set up to stop CP....................linking a LightSpeed site to ASACP the very organization he sits on the board of.......................and then posting this response basically waving arrogance in the face of anyone who has questioned you in this thread???

Telling us all that if we want to "cut a bigger check than you" you will gladly step down?????

Is the agenda to protect children and stop CP? Or is the agenda to carry out personal vendettas against those you don't like in the industry?

I can tell you that as long as GARY is involved and by his own admission controling the puppet strings of ASACP than I will never join or contribute in any way.

Now I realize that I am not in a position to "buy Gary" out of his board seat........................but there are alot of mid sized players out there like me that HAVE to be as offended as I am at your comments.

To Joan I am sorry but I don't see how ASACP will ever have any credibility within the industry while this person is a part of it.
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This practice is rather unfair of sex.com to do. A search for "child porn" on sex.com gives as a result the ASACP. That's fair. But labelling searches such as "tawnee stone" or "lightspeed" into the same category as CP is totally uncalled for Gary.

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I was just thinking that having a domain called sex.com gets a lot of porn surfers just buy default. So if sex.com does something fucked up, it makes the rest of the adult industry look a bit suspect dosn't it ?
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This practice is rather unfair of sex.com to do. A search for "child porn" on sex.com gives as a result the ASACP. That's fair. But labelling searches such as "tawnee stone" or "lightspeed" into the same category as CP is totally uncalled for Gary.

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i would assume lightspeed as a term related to adult is trademarked - and gary on sex.com linking to anything other then lightspeed on a specific search for lightspeed would be in infringement of trademark and in line for a WHOPPER of a lawsuit under those circumstances.
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Gary, isn't it time for you to retire with the rest of the industry dinosaurs anyway?

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This is coming from a guy who drives a POS VIPER that be bought with $ from catering to pedophiles. The license plate should read pedophile$.

Steve will either end up broke, in jail, or broke and in jail. His ride is about over according to his wife.
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This is coming from a guy who drives a POS VIPER that be bought with $ from catering to pedophiles. The license plate should read pedophile$.

Steve will either end up broke, in jail, or broke and in jail. His ride is about over according to his wife.

Ooh Bradwee....

Go back to your own little board, no one wants you here.

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Sleazy was trying to get approved . he has posted about it before. but i havent heard offically that he is in the association..
geez, he even knows the handshake...
I was accepted and have donated the asacp money and support their cause.


my thoughts on this - yes gary is on the board of the asacp, but gary is but one voice on that board and doesn't speak for the whole. I didn't verify this but if it's true that links for lightspeed on sex.com lead to the asacp I see this as a problem with sex.com and it's management- and i DO see it as a problem - but not with the asacp. It's not the asacp's fault the traffic was sent to them.
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This is coming from a guy who drives a POS VIPER that be bought with $ from catering to pedophiles. The license plate should read pedophile$.

Steve will either end up broke, in jail, or broke and in jail. His ride is about over according to his wife.
actually i think the ride is just begining tonight.......
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my thoughts on this - yes gary is on the board of the asacp, but gary is but one voice on that board and doesn't speak for the whole. I didn't verify this but if it's true that links for lightspeed on sex.com lead to the asacp I see this as a problem with sex.com and it's management- and i DO see it as a problem - but not with the asacp. It's not the asacp's fault the traffic was sent to them.
congrats on getting accepted as an ASACP member, but does that mean that you cant list Lightspeed galleries? i'm so confused...
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congrats on getting accepted as an ASACP member, but does that mean that you cant list Lightspeed galleries? i'm so confused...

If I'm not allowed to list legal content then something is wrong - but at no point was I ever aware of this requirement.
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Thank you for your support. I am resigning from the board of ASACP effectively immediately. Looking forward to having Steve and his friends lead the charge. Joan Irvine can be reached at 323 965 1400.
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And it goes to a link for ASACP? What a CROCK OF SHIT!

Does anyone else think ASACP should be staffed by an elected committee? Industry politics within the current committee seems to be clouding their judgement and wasting their resources. Maybe they could focus on their real goal of removing CP from the net?

Has anyone else had enough of these assclowns running ASACP?

Hey Gary, Joan

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Yes, filtering "tawnee stone" and "lightspeed" as CP keywords is extremely lame of Gary to do, but sex.com is his site and he can do what he wants.
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Thank you for your support. I am resigning from the board of ASACP effectively immediately. Looking forward to having Steve and his friends lead the charge. Joan Irvine can be reached at 323 965 1400.
I'm trying to figure out if this is a joke or not. This entire thread is the reason why I try to distance myself as much as possible from all the behind-the-scenes politicking.

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Thank you for your support. I am resigning from the board of ASACP effectively immediately. Looking forward to having Steve and his friends lead the charge. Joan Irvine can be reached at 323 965 1400.
Why don't you just quit pointing your searches for "lightspeed" and "tawnee stone" to ASACP, wouldn't that have been easier? LOL!
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One would hope that if a website was suspected to publish material depicting minors, it would be passed on to the right organisations and agencies; surely they would then look into it.

Would it make sense to have somebody who used to be involved in the adult business heading such an organization as opposed to somebody who still is?
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Thank you for your support. I am resigning from the board of ASACP effectively immediately. Looking forward to having Steve and his friends lead the charge. Joan Irvine can be reached at 323 965 1400.
Really?!?

Steve, I could hear your voice when I read the first post ...
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Old 12-10-2004, 07:44 AM   #135
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At the end of the day, SEX.COM still treats ligthspeed, tawnee stone, and selected other search results different from others.

Go there. Search for "bullshit ideas" and you get 10 results, starting with the "napster of porn". That is the default page.

What has happened to lightpseed is SPECIFIC, to provide information to the public that suggests that lightspeed material is CP.

Without the piles of cash the long list of lawyers on retainer, well, this discussion would be very different.

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Old 12-10-2004, 08:21 AM   #136
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Lightspeed sites are not as bad as littleapril, remember the first trailer they had with her where the ending was questioning if she was even legal
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Old 12-10-2004, 08:36 AM   #137
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PS: Your traffic sucks. I've never had a successful (ie: profitable) campaign, despite the help and suggestions of various account managers.
The traffic now is worse now than it has ever been..
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:07 AM   #138
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At the end of the day, SEX.COM still treats ligthspeed, tawnee stone, and selected other search results different from others.

Go there. Search for "bullshit ideas" and you get 10 results, starting with the "napster of porn". That is the default page.

What has happened to lightpseed is SPECIFIC, to provide information to the public that suggests that lightspeed material is CP.

Without the piles of cash the long list of lawyers on retainer, well, this discussion would be very different.

Alex
Yes that has been proven. And as all advertisers know when you bid you can bid on the no result searches.

Right from the admin area..

No Results Pages View Other Bidders 0.03 0.13

Right now the top bid is .13 (.03 is default that I had set). Napster of porn is probably that bidder.

Soooo. When searching for Lightspeed why doesnt one receive the "No Results" Query?

And I will say again the traffic has been real bad lately. I don't know if its a few large volume partners or what.
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:00 AM   #139
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I am resigning from the board of ASACP effectively immediately.
thank you

any day that gary resigns from the board of asacp is a good day for the adult industry

is helmy next?
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:13 AM   #140
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Thank you for your support. I am resigning from the board of ASACP effectively immediately. Looking forward to having Steve and his friends lead the charge. Joan Irvine can be reached at 323 965 1400.

If you call this support, I wonder how your friends threat you

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priceless. And here's me thinking you're a crusty californian almost retiree. There's life in the old dog yet. Very funny.
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:53 AM   #142
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So garry.. Still having demons chasing you under tables? Teeth still discoloring from off color smoke? Nervous, gittery, cant hold still to type? hahaha asking yourself, "How can he know all this?"


have a good one g...

p.s. Did you pay your new lawyer? or make a promise?
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priceless. And here's me thinking you're a crusty californian almost retiree. There's life in the old dog yet. Very funny.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:03 PM   #144
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So dose this mean they are buying traffic from sex.com using your sites names? Or is it some sex.com screw up? If they are paying for those search terms and directing it at their site, I think I'd sick my lawyers on them.
It's well known that Gary doesn't like Steve. I have no doubt Gary is making a statement here. No doubt whatsoever. And Gary is a major player on the ASACP board.

But, you know what... that's his right. He owns sex.com . Bitch all you want, but that's what it boils down to.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:14 PM   #145
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It's well known that Gary doesn't like Steve. I have no doubt Gary is making a statement here. No doubt whatsoever. And Gary is a major player on the ASACP board.

But, you know what... that's his right. He owns sex.com . Bitch all you want, but that's what it boils down to.
Its his "right"?

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/ruleroad.htm

The Federal Trade Commission Act allows the FTC to act in the interest of all consumers to prevent deceptive and unfair acts or practices. In interpreting Section 5 of the Act, the Commission has determined that a representation, omission or practice is deceptive if it is likely to:

mislead consumers and
affect consumers' behavior or decisions about the product or service.


So you'd be ok if he pulled the same shit about your girl, whats her name again, um.... oh yeah

http://www.teenkarma.com

Its the HYPOCRISY man, you know better than that!

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Ok, forgive me for using these other examples, that Gary seems happy to sell traffic to:

Little April
http://www.sex.com/q.html?Terms=litt...il&loc=sxHmTop

Hustler's Barely Legal
http://www.sex.com/q.html?Terms=bare...al&loc=sxHmTop


Damn could a point prove itself more easily?

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Gary I don't know you, have never met you, and have never had anything to do with you. And this reponse insures that I never will know you, or do business with your company.


Someone who sits on the board of an organization set up to stop CP....................linking a LightSpeed site to ASACP the very organization he sits on the board of.......................and then posting this response basically waving arrogance in the face of anyone who has questioned you in this thread???

Telling us all that if we want to "cut a bigger check than you" you will gladly step down?????

Is the agenda to protect children and stop CP? Or is the agenda to carry out personal vendettas against those you don't like in the industry?

I can tell you that as long as GARY is involved and by his own admission controling the puppet strings of ASACP than I will never join or contribute in any way.

Now I realize that I am not in a position to "buy Gary" out of his board seat........................but there are alot of mid sized players out there like me that HAVE to be as offended as I am at your comments.

To Joan I am sorry but I don't see how ASACP will ever have any credibility within the industry while this person is a part of it.
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Well said Nic
Bullshit.

Gary won't let me into ASACP either, and I am a good friend. Many people know that Gary invested money in my business several years to help me grow, money which has allowed me to get to where I am today. I've stayed at Gary's house for a month. He's been generous in every way.

But he won't let me into ASACP. Why? Because of www.TeenKarma.com . I'm a partner in that site. Gary feels the model looks too young (even though she's 21 years old).

Gary feels the same way about many of Steve's girls. He feels they are made to look younger than they are.

Obviously, I disagree with some of Gary's points of view or I wouldn't own TeenKarma.com. But Gary practices consistency, even if you're a friend of his.
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But Gary practices consistency, even if you're a friend of his.

I'll wait for the "oh shit" that is coming, drum roll please....
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So you'd be ok if he pulled the same shit about your girl, whats her name again, um.... oh yeah

http://www.teenkarma.com

Its the HYPOCRISY man, you know better than that!

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WOW...now that girl looks young...But I know she's of age so I'm not the type to WHINE about young looking girls like others on this board.
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