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Tala · 11-03-2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen

You Americans NEED 'guaranteed' freedoms because you have a large population of rabid, fundamentalist Christians who are constantly trying to attack them.

You know, it's very strange...I usually don't agree with you. But this. Yes, I agree with you.

You're on a roll here!

Edit: 150 argumentative Bush haters.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
CET:

Astounding stupidity.

The US is now THE most unfree country in the Western World.

There are MANY countries who have more "freedoms" than the US and many other advantages, - but you clearly don't know this.

No.. please don't inflict any other country with your residency - they are often not so tolerant of US idiots.

Webby · 11-03-2004, 02:54 PM

Tala:

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Webby, please stop with the namecalling. I don't appreciate being lumped into the generalized "US idiots" box. Thanks.

Did I even address you in any post?? No.

Did I "namecall" you? No

Did I lump you into the "generalized US idiots box"? No

WTF are you talking about??

On the flip side of the coin, there is no way, I could possible make the assumption any US citizen is not in the "generalized US idiots box".

I will continiue to make that assumption until otherwise proven.

There is certainly no offense intended to you personally.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Why do you want more, wouldn't the same amount be enough?

OK, that'll do. Name one country that has as many guaranteed freedoms as there are in America. More is better, but just as many is just as good.

chupachups · 11-03-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by CET
I disagree, look at Kerry's platform and compare it to Bush's. They were practically identical with a few minor differences.

You do? Well, let me tell you, the rest of world doesnt give a shit about gay marriage, social welfare etc etc when you are in the midst of a war runned by a intellectual retard.

Tala · 11-03-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Tala:

Did I even address you in any post?? No.

Did I "namecall" you? No

Did I lump you into the "generalized US idiots box"? No

WTF are you talking about??

On the flip side of the coin, there is no way, I could possible make the assumption any US citizen is not in the "generalized US idiots box".

I will continiue to make that assumption until otherwise proven.

There is certainly no offense intended to you personally.

Perhaps the offense was taken by my own perception of your wording. My bad. I apologize.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
What are those perticular "freedoms" you are talking about?

Read The Constitution, there's tons of them listed in there. I also listed several of them earlier in this thread. I'll quote myself for your convience:

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Originally posted by CET
freedom of speech, religion, free press, petition grievence, bare arms, a fair and speedy trial, privacy, private property

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by dcortez
Fair enough.

I hoped, the jist of my message was clear.

In lieu of 'common sense' (which is more a naive aspiration), let's use 'level-headed, balanced globally responsible' instead.

That sounds like an euphamism for "common sense".

How about, "facts, logical reasoning, and acceptance of results brought about by the scientific method"? It's a mouthful, but I don't know any shorter way of saying it.

megatgpdotnet · 11-03-2004, 02:59 PM

Hahaha, thats true........ bad for you folks.....

chupachups · 11-03-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Read The Constitution, there's tons of them listed in there. I also listed several of them earlier in this thread. I'll quote myself for your convience:

That wasnt much.....

Webby · 11-03-2004, 03:00 PM

CET:

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Name one country that has as many guaranteed freedoms as there are in America. More is better, but just as many is just as good.

Hell.. you seriously have a problem...

Look at almost any Euro country... several on the American continent and - hell.. literally *any* continent!

Are you fucking blind or just REALLY stupid??

Tala · 11-03-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
You do? Well, let me tell you, the rest of world doesnt give a shit about gay marriage, social welfare etc etc when you are in the midst of a war runned by a intellectual retard.

pssst...."run by." Runned isn't a word.....

As far as I understand it, the United States, being founded by religious zealots, will continue to have it's pathetic liberal/conservative controversy until the end of time. There surely is no sign to my view that the US will ever be any different.

I find that sad. I also find it frustrating and downright infuriating that what I can and cannot do is being called by someone who behaves like God is his right-hand man.

*sigh*

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Is this retard serious???

"Comparing consititutions, tort law, etc,"

Hell.. that is one guy that is a VERY hard learner if he has not grasped even basic fundamental facts, yet spews rubbish about tort law.

Sheesh....

I have absolutely NADA sympathy for crass idiots like this.

Have a nice day in lala land

Since you completely fail to grasp reason, logic and cannot hold a discussion without the gratuitous use of name calling, you may now say "hello" to my ignore list. Thanks for playing, but I've had enough of your worthless ramblings. Goodbye!

chupachups · 11-03-2004, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
pssst...."run by." Runned isn't a word.....

*sigh*

jejeje

BlueQuartz · 11-03-2004, 03:04 PM

Come on come on
I see no changes. Wake up in the morning and I ask myself,
"Is life worth living? Should I blast myself?"
I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black.
My stomach hurts, so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch.
Cops give a damn about a negro? Pull the trigger, kill a nigga, he's a hero.
Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares? One less hungry mouth on the welfare.
First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal the brothers.
Give 'em guns, step back, and watch 'em kill each other.
"It's time to fight back", that's what Huey said.
2 shots in the dark now Huey's dead.
I got love for my brother, but we can never go nowhere
unless we share with each other. We gotta start makin' changes.
Learn to see me as a brother 'stead of 2 distant strangers.
And that's how it's supposed to be.
How can the Devil take a brother if he's close to me?
I'd love to go back to when we played as kids,
but things change, and that's the way it is.

[Bridge w/ changing ad libs]

(Come on, come on) That's just the way it is. Things'll never be the same.
That's just the way it is. aww yeah...
[Repeat]

I see no changes. All I see is racist faces.
Misplaced hate makes disgrace for races we under.
I wonder what it takes to make this one better place...
let's erase the wasted.
Take the evil out the people, they'll be acting right.
'Cause mo' black than white is smokin' crack tonight.
And only time we chill is when we kill each other.
It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other.
And although it seems heaven sent,
we ain't ready to see a black President, uhh.
It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact...
the penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks.
But some things will never change.
Try to show another way, but they stayin' in the dope game.
Now tell me what's a mother to do?
Bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you.
You gotta operate the easy way.
"I made a G today" But you made it in a sleazy way.
Sellin' crack to the kids. "I gotta get paid,"
Well hey, well that's the way it is.

[Bridge]
[Talking:]

We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.

And still I see no changes. Can't a brother get a little peace?
There's war on the streets & the war in the Middle East.
Instead of war on poverty,
they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me.
And I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do.
But now I'm back with the facts givin' 'em back to you.
Don't let 'em jack you up, back you up, crack you up and pimp smack you up.
You gotta learn to hold ya own.
They get jealous when they see ya with ya mobile phone.
But tell the cops they can't touch this.
I don't trust this, when they try to rush I bust this.
That's the sound of my tune. You say it ain't cool, but mama didn't raise no fool.
And as long as I stay black, I gotta stay strapped & I never get to lay back.
'Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs.
Some buck that I roughed up way back... comin' back after all these years.
Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat. That's the way it is. uhh

[Bridge 'til fade]
Some things never change.

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
You are playing a semantic game by talking about 'guaranteed' freedoms.

You Americans NEED 'guaranteed' freedoms because you have a large population of rabid, fundamentalist Christians who are constantly trying to attack them.

Most other first world nations don't have this problem.

In practice, there are many countries that enjoy the same day to day freedoms that you enjoy. I live in one of them.

I'm sure that's true, but I like the idea of those freedoms being constitutionally guaranteed. It makes it much more difficult for any government to take them away. My countrymen may be fucked up individuals who re-elected a monkey in a suit, but we are generally absolutely rabid about keeping our freedoms no matter what (with only a few exceptions).

ColBigBalls · 11-03-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by CET
1. You're listing things that are legal, not constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.

2. These are things we don't have, fine but we've got things they don't have.

HOW ABOUT THE FREDOM TO DUE PROCESS!!!

how many people are being detained every day because the fit the HUGELY vauge profile of a terrorist for day weeks and months on end, with no legal council or any reason as to why there being held. Some fucking home of the free

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
Ok, fair enough. So what are they, what do you have that many other western countries dont?

I've listed them twice, should I really to do it again?

Tala · 11-03-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
jejeje

ColBigBalls · 11-03-2004, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls
HOW ABOUT THE FREDOM TO DUE PROCESS!!!

how many people are being detained every day because the fit the HUGELY vauge profile of a terrorist for day weeks and months on end, with no legal council or any reason as to why there being held. Some fucking home of the free

the american constitution in theroy is great but its far from praticed

Odie · 11-03-2004, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Australia has all those freedoms you mention except the right to bear arms. Instead we have the right to be free of gun violence.

Personally I prefer that right.

yup I agree..just b/c it's written in the constitution doesn't mean that u ARE free. Are you really free?? The government has complete knowledge of where u shop, eat, sleep, shit, spend, and drive. I couldn't stand walking around being afraid of whether or not some guy is going to pull a gun or not...scary shit

Webby · 11-03-2004, 03:07 PM

Tala:

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There surely is no sign to my view that the US will ever be any different.

That is one frightening prospect - both for the US and the ripple effect globally.

There is a danger... tho that time has already passed by.. that the US which had some excellent high ideals is no longer of any credibility. That is damned sad, both for the US and the world.

The other danger is.. the only route may possibly be a downwards spiral in many areas. I can't think of any sane person wishing to see this happen or any country.

Tala · 11-03-2004, 03:07 PM

For a price I'd do about anything
Except pull the trigger
For that I'd need a pretty good cause
Then I heard of Dr. X
The man with the cure
Just watch the television
Yeah, you'll see there's something going on

Got no love for politicians
Or that crazy scene in D.C.
It's just a power mad town
But the time is ripe for changes
There's a growing feeling
That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due

I used to trust the media
To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
But now I've seen the payoffs
Everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?

Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Revolution calling you
[There's a] Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Gotta make a change
Gotta push, gotta push it on through

McSpike · 11-03-2004, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Most countries do not guarantee their citizens the rights of freedom of speech, religion, free press, petition grievence, bare arms, a fair and speedy trial, privacy, private property. These are GUARANTEED in our constitution, most countries guarantee a few of these freedoms in their constitution, but not all of them.

OMFG. can you be more ignorant? I live in a country you probably didn't even hear of and we have ALL of that, except for the fire arms and thanks god not every dick can get those.

On the other hand...
Each country would probably vote for their Bush - amount of stupidity is probably the same everywhere.

One thing still amazes me. The "jealousy factor" some like to mention so much. If they only knew, lol... There's simply nothing in US that would make me wanna live there. Get it in your heads.

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
You do? Well, let me tell you, the rest of world doesnt give a shit about gay marriage, social welfare etc etc when you are in the midst of a war runned by a intellectual retard.

You're either forgetting or ignoring the fact that Kerry supported the war and wanted to expand it further. Kerry wanted an extra 40,000 troops enlisted, which could only have been accomplished with a draft. Honestly, I'm not sure which would have been a worse president, but at least by electing Kerry there would have been a change. I'm a fan of change, I think it ought to happen as often as possible. If nothing else, at least one branch of the government would not have been republican controlled.

skillfull · 11-03-2004, 03:10 PM

Land of the free and we're united, make our destiny, we take control,
yeah, never divided, we got the power and we'll never be, divided we fall,
oh yeah, land of the free, free to conspire, control destiny,
oh yeah, you're gonna see, no use resistin',
you're livin' in the land of the free, free to control your life,
land of the free, free to control your mind, land of the free?
Land of the free, united nations of hypocrisy, profit's our goal,
we're incorporated, it's big business and oil companies controlling us all,
oh yeah, land of the free, free to conspire, control destiny,
oh yeah, you're gonna see, no use resistin',
you're livin' in the land of the free, free to control your life,
land of the free, free to control your mind, land of the free?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of hypocrisy
and to the republic for which it stands, one nation,
without liberty and justice for all

Land of the free, free to control your life, land of the free,
free to control your mind, land of the free, land of the free,
free to control your life, land of the free, free to control your mind,
land of the free?

Yeah, right

megatgpdotnet · 11-03-2004, 03:11 PM

Haha, America and freedom......... hahahhahaaa!!!

Tala · 11-03-2004, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by skillfull
Land of the free and we're united, make our destiny, we take control,
yeah, never divided, we got the power and we'll never be, divided we fall,
oh yeah, land of the free, free to conspire, control destiny,
oh yeah, you're gonna see, no use resistin',
you're livin' in the land of the free, free to control your life,
land of the free, free to control your mind, land of the free?
Land of the free, united nations of hypocrisy, profit's our goal,
we're incorporated, it's big business and oil companies controlling us all,
oh yeah, land of the free, free to conspire, control destiny,
oh yeah, you're gonna see, no use resistin',
you're livin' in the land of the free, free to control your life,
land of the free, free to control your mind, land of the free?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of hypocrisy
and to the republic for which it stands, one nation,
without liberty and justice for all

Land of the free, free to control your life, land of the free,
free to control your mind, land of the free, land of the free,
free to control your life, land of the free, free to control your mind,
land of the free?

Yeah, right

Nice.

And terribly sad. Sad but true.

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls
HOW ABOUT THE FREDOM TO DUE PROCESS!!!

how many people are being detained every day because the fit the HUGELY vauge profile of a terrorist for day weeks and months on end, with no legal council or any reason as to why there being held. Some fucking home of the free

Unfortunately, there are a few people being held without due process and I think that's a travesty of justice. However, this is a very small exception rather then a rule. What you're describing is such a small percentage of prisoners (a fraction of 1%), that it's unlikely to ever happen to any one American citizen. I would much prefer it if it didn't happen at all. None the less, what is happening there is unconstitional and should stop.

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Odie
I couldn't stand walking around being afraid of whether or not some guy is going to pull a gun or not...scary shit

In a country where guns are illegal, only criminals will have guns. England has not seen a drop in violent crime since outlawing privately owned guns and neither has Australia, yet that was supposed to be the basis of outlawing guns.

Webby · 11-03-2004, 03:15 PM

McSpike:

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OMFG. can you be more ignorant? I live in a country you probably didn't even hear of and we have ALL of that, except for the fire arms and thanks god not every dick can get those.

Na.. just "accept" it as a retard with a mouth - disasterous combo.

Sounds like where I live is much the same - certainly more freedoms than Camp USA.

The comparison is like some person used to living under either a protected regime or some.. eg communist regime. They have travelled nowhere, can't even get their historical facts correct and don't have a clue of this world.

When the blinkers come off - many are amazed. Tho there are some where it is all pointless....

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by McSpike
OMFG. can you be more ignorant? I live in a country you probably didn't even hear of and we have ALL of that, except for the fire arms and thanks god not every dick can get those.

On the other hand...
Each country would probably vote for their Bush - amount of stupidity is probably the same everywhere.

One thing still amazes me. The "jealousy factor" some like to mention so much. If they only knew, lol... There's simply nothing in US that would make me wanna live there. Get it in your heads.

What country do you live in and do you have as many guaranteed freedoms as Americans do?

ColBigBalls · 11-03-2004, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by CET
You're either forgetting or ignoring the fact that Kerry supported the war and wanted to expand it further. Kerry wanted an extra 40,000 troops enlisted, which could only have been accomplished with a draft. Honestly, I'm not sure which would have been a worse president, but at least by electing Kerry there would have been a change. I'm a fan of change, I think it ought to happen as often as possible. If nothing else, at least one branch of the government would not have been republican controlled.

Your also forgeting at the time everyone was led to beleave the lies of WMD's and terrorist ties in Iraq, as well as the fact saying that with what he new now would he have done things diffrently.. yes.. all be it easy to say now.. GWB's awnser.. yes i would do it all again. so he fucked up and admitted he would do it again!?! thats your leader

chupachups · 11-03-2004, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by CET
What country do you live in and do you have as many guaranteed freedoms as Americans do?

Dude, all civilized western countries have that?

ColBigBalls · 11-03-2004, 03:25 PM

It is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. --Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls
Your also forgeting at the time everyone was led to beleave the lies of WMD's and terrorist ties in Iraq, as well as the fact saying that with what he new now would he have done things diffrently.. yes.. all be it easy to say now.. GWB's awnser.. yes i would do it all again. so he fucked up and admitted he would do it again!?! thats your leader

I didn't forget that and Kerry agreed with that position. My point was that Kerry was not the "anti-war" candidate that everyone seemingly wanted him to be.

Michaelious · 11-03-2004, 03:29 PM

America..you are all screwed lol

CET · 11-03-2004, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Michaelious
America..you are all screwed lol

If you live in this world, then you're screwed too.

Peacemaker · 11-03-2004, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by CET
In a country where guns are illegal, only criminals will have guns. England has not seen a drop in violent crime since outlawing privately owned guns and neither has Australia, yet that was supposed to be the basis of outlawing guns.

and builds criminals which run amok

M_M · 11-03-2004, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
The United States of America is THE SUPERPOWER -- the rest of the world is one big shit hole.

We can wipe all of you out on a whim, militarily. We can bury your countries economically as an afterthought.

You are insiginificant fleas and we are the greatest country in the history of the world.

Your opinions are insignificant. You're impotent. We run the world, and you live and die at our pleasure.

Suck on that you trick ass bitches.

Go Fuck Yourself

Every single superpower in the history got beaten eventually.

BRISK · 11-03-2004, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by infatu
Freedoms? You have no freedom in America. You guys are so tightly bound by the religious freaks and brainwashed by your biased media, you truly don't know the meaning of freedom.

Most Kerry supporters realize this. Unfortunately the majority of your country are uneducated ignorant red necks.

I suggest you do some learning about the way people live in truly free countries before you go on about how America is the "freeest country in the world". That's just political propoganda IMO.

Peacemaker · 11-03-2004, 03:40 PM

Read:

People who live in a country that has had a Dictator, which got removed after a world war, and now live in a well runing democratic country, know what freedom is.
yes, i am talking about germany

i dont think that anyone of us here know what freedom really is. you cant compare., because you do not have the experience.

BRISK · 11-03-2004, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by smit
while i don't think bush's reelection is the end of the world by any means, keep in mind that every great civilization eventually dies down... so all the arrogant americans must realize we won't be number 1 forever.

BRISK · 11-03-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Dildozer
Americans are brainwashed. You think you're free yet each day you're losing a bit of your so called freedom

Sexzity · 11-03-2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Has crime lowered ANY?

My point stands, no single country guarantees as many freedoms as America does. If anyone can prove otherwise (and I mean proof, not rhetoric), I'll gladly pack my bags and move there.

In Denmark we can watch boobs on the tv cannels.

Even Hardcore acts is send in the television
16 y.o persons can buy beers and smokes in . At 18 they can buy beers at bars.
At the ages of 15 it is allowed to fuck even with adults.
No kids can be arrested in they are under 15 y.o.
Teens can be outdoor all night long. Not as it is in parts of the US where teens has to be home at 12 p.m.

We dont have the rights to caring arms, but we are allowed to protect our self.

We have around 100 persons killed every year of a population on 5.5 mio people.

BRISK · 11-03-2004, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by CET
No one said that. However, America does give its citizens more freedoms then any other single country. I've spent lots of time researching this to find a place to run to if America goes to shit and only Switzerland even comes close.

Does America allow gay marriage?

What about marijuana? Is that legal?

What about Cuba? Are Americans free to travel to any country they want to? or just the ones the government allows them to?

Ad3pt · 11-03-2004, 03:58 PM

Here we go again. I had to jump in here at CET's defense. Webby and the rest of the fuckwits on this thread: Quit talking shit and prove CET wrong. Webby I think I called your bluff a while back. You're poetic rhetoric might work on children but not on me. Put up or shut up. You can start by disclosing what country your're in, what's this business you claim to run, or just answer CET's fucking question. Which country has more or even the same amount of GUARANTEED FREEDOMS as the US? Please do tell.

BRISK · 11-03-2004, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
You Americans NEED 'guaranteed' freedoms because you have a large population of rabid, fundamentalist Christians who are constantly trying to attack them.

Sexzity · 11-03-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Ad3pt
Here we go again. I had to jump in here at CET's defense. Webby and the rest of the fuckwits on this thread: Quit talking shit and prove CET wrong. Webby I think I called your bluff a while back. You're poetic rhetoric might work on children but not on me. Put up or shut up. You can start by disclosing what country your're in, what's this business you claim to run, or just answer CET's fucking question. Which country has more or even the same amount of GUARANTEED FREEDOMS as the US? Please do tell.

Please define freedom. In Denmark we have all the rights that US has. Just not the arms part.

We have the rights to lie to the police.
We have the rights to say not to the police to look in our trunk.
We was the first country in the world allowing porn.
We was allso first with gay marriage.

What we just need it to know what you meen freedom is.

Peacemaker · 11-03-2004, 04:16 PM

Freedom is the combination of:
- Abilities to think freely
- Abilities to act freely

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Tala Fucked if I know Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Do you have a flag? Posts: 23,368	For a price I'd do about anything Except pull the trigger For that I'd need a pretty good cause Then I heard of Dr. X The man with the cure Just watch the television Yeah, you'll see there's something going on Got no love for politicians Or that crazy scene in D.C. It's just a power mad town But the time is ripe for changes There's a growing feeling That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due I used to trust the media To tell me the truth, tell us the truth But now I've seen the payoffs Everywhere I look Who do you trust when everyone's a crook? Revolution calling Revolution calling Revolution calling you [There's a] Revolution calling Revolution calling Gotta make a change Gotta push, gotta push it on through __________________ ICQ: 11120676 \| Google: mindcrime \| Skype: suitemindcrime\|E-Mail: mindcrime AT gmail.com\|PR girl with great writing skills for hire!!!! Contact me to work for YOU!\|TECHIEMEDIA? 24/7 support from some of the best techs in the biz. Tell Jim that I sent you.

11-03-2004, 03:10 PM	#176
skillfull Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Quebec Calisse Posts: 4,716	Land of the free and we're united, make our destiny, we take control, yeah, never divided, we got the power and we'll never be, divided we fall, oh yeah, land of the free, free to conspire, control destiny, oh yeah, you're gonna see, no use resistin', you're livin' in the land of the free, free to control your life, land of the free, free to control your mind, land of the free? Land of the free, united nations of hypocrisy, profit's our goal, we're incorporated, it's big business and oil companies controlling us all, oh yeah, land of the free, free to conspire, control destiny, oh yeah, you're gonna see, no use resistin', you're livin' in the land of the free, free to control your life, land of the free, free to control your mind, land of the free? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of hypocrisy and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, without liberty and justice for all Land of the free, free to control your life, land of the free, free to control your mind, land of the free, land of the free, free to control your life, land of the free, free to control your mind, land of the free? Yeah, right __________________ mind at underdark dot cc SEO Analyst Thunder-Ball.net - Member

11-03-2004, 03:11 PM	#177
megatgpdotnet Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: EU Posts: 1,296	Haha, America and freedom......... hahahhahaaa!!! __________________ ICQ: 343 896 902 \| Traffic: Buy and Sell \| My top sponsors: Dating (1:26 fs) \| Webcams (20% lifetime) \| $25 / free signup \| Paysites (trials, crossells, alternative billing) \| Other Stuff .com domains $7.99 \| Dreamhost promo codes \| Cheap quality content \| Embed Tube Script Toplists: 1 \| 2

11-03-2004, 03:29 PM	#187
Michaelious Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 6,720	America..you are all screwed lol __________________

11-03-2004, 03:04 PM	#165
BlueQuartz Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,971	Come on come on I see no changes. Wake up in the morning and I ask myself, "Is life worth living? Should I blast myself?" I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black. My stomach hurts, so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch. Cops give a damn about a negro? Pull the trigger, kill a nigga, he's a hero. Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares? One less hungry mouth on the welfare. First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal the brothers. Give 'em guns, step back, and watch 'em kill each other. "It's time to fight back", that's what Huey said. 2 shots in the dark now Huey's dead. I got love for my brother, but we can never go nowhere unless we share with each other. We gotta start makin' changes. Learn to see me as a brother 'stead of 2 distant strangers. And that's how it's supposed to be. How can the Devil take a brother if he's close to me? I'd love to go back to when we played as kids, but things change, and that's the way it is. [Bridge w/ changing ad libs] (Come on, come on) That's just the way it is. Things'll never be the same. That's just the way it is. aww yeah... [Repeat] I see no changes. All I see is racist faces. Misplaced hate makes disgrace for races we under. I wonder what it takes to make this one better place... let's erase the wasted. Take the evil out the people, they'll be acting right. 'Cause mo' black than white is smokin' crack tonight. And only time we chill is when we kill each other. It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other. And although it seems heaven sent, we ain't ready to see a black President, uhh. It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact... the penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks. But some things will never change. Try to show another way, but they stayin' in the dope game. Now tell me what's a mother to do? Bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you. You gotta operate the easy way. "I made a G today" But you made it in a sleazy way. Sellin' crack to the kids. "I gotta get paid," Well hey, well that's the way it is. [Bridge] [Talking:] We gotta make a change... It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes. Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live and let's change the way we treat each other. You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do what we gotta do, to survive. And still I see no changes. Can't a brother get a little peace? There's war on the streets & the war in the Middle East. Instead of war on poverty, they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me. And I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do. But now I'm back with the facts givin' 'em back to you. Don't let 'em jack you up, back you up, crack you up and pimp smack you up. You gotta learn to hold ya own. They get jealous when they see ya with ya mobile phone. But tell the cops they can't touch this. I don't trust this, when they try to rush I bust this. That's the sound of my tune. You say it ain't cool, but mama didn't raise no fool. And as long as I stay black, I gotta stay strapped & I never get to lay back. 'Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs. Some buck that I roughed up way back... comin' back after all these years. Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat. That's the way it is. uhh [Bridge 'til fade] Some things never change.

11-03-2004, 03:25 PM	#185
ColBigBalls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,733	It is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. --Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering

11-03-2004, 03:40 PM	#192
Peacemaker Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Mars Posts: 897	Read: People who live in a country that has had a Dictator, which got removed after a world war, and now live in a well runing democratic country, know what freedom is. yes, i am talking about germany i dont think that anyone of us here know what freedom really is. you cant compare., because you do not have the experience. __________________ SEO since 2002 - Google Index Record: 32 minutes. - Selling SEO services and tools

11-03-2004, 03:58 PM	#197
Ad3pt Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: California Posts: 476	Here we go again. I had to jump in here at CET's defense. Webby and the rest of the fuckwits on this thread: Quit talking shit and prove CET wrong. Webby I think I called your bluff a while back. You're poetic rhetoric might work on children but not on me. Put up or shut up. You can start by disclosing what country your're in, what's this business you claim to run, or just answer CET's fucking question. Which country has more or even the same amount of GUARANTEED FREEDOMS as the US? Please do tell. __________________ Don't look here for the joke. It's in your pants. South O - World Class surfer destination since 2001.

11-03-2004, 04:16 PM	#200
Peacemaker Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Mars Posts: 897	Freedom is the combination of: - Abilities to think freely - Abilities to act freely __________________ SEO since 2002 - Google Index Record: 32 minutes. - Selling SEO services and tools