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CET · 11-03-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc
have to love this idea that only the USA has freedom

No one said that. However, America does give its citizens more freedoms then any other single country. I've spent lots of time researching this to find a place to run to if America goes to shit and only Switzerland even comes close.

Webby · 11-03-2004, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by CET
You're wrong. I've been looking into where to move if shit should hit the fan. The only country that comes even close to having America's freedoms is Switzerland, and they still don't have as many.

Were you born afflicted or was this thru some life experience?

You are clearly insane... or amazingly ignorant of this world.

I suspect both are applicable - the prerequisite for being a citizen of Camp USA.

McSpike · 11-03-2004, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
The United States of America is THE SUPERPOWER -- the rest of the world is one big shit hole.

We can wipe all of you out on a whim, militarily. We can bury your countries economically as an afterthought.

You are insiginificant fleas and we are the greatest country in the history of the world.

Your opinions are insignificant. You're impotent. We run the world, and you live and die at our pleasure.

Suck on that you trick ass bitches.

Go Fuck Yourself

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
America has most probably the biggest deficit in the World - How would it be if the rest of the World stopped loaning you cash?

Bankrupt, perhaps?

Actually, I would like that very much, it would force fiscal reform.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by xfalmp
LOL, so true. They love to claim their freedom yet every other country have too. They should stop leaving in their own little world... if only they researched a little.

Most countries do not guarantee their citizens the rights of freedom of speech, religion, free press, petition grievence, bare arms, a fair and speedy trial, privacy, private property. These are GUARANTEED in our constitution, most countries guarantee a few of these freedoms in their constitution, but not all of them.

Ian · 11-03-2004, 02:21 PM

I read these posts and think it's sad how many people know so little about history and the world around them, amazing.

Furious_Male · 11-03-2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Furious_Male:

I'll try an keep this *VERY SIMPLE*....

Are you just totally stupid or just ignorant????

You have clearly never spent more than one second in making yourself aware of the financial state of your country and related financial implications of anything.

Are you employed or have you ever ran a business? Just curious.

I am stupid and ignorant because I believe the US should keep out of other countries affairs? I am aware of of the state of my countries financial situations. I believe a step towards improving them would be to worry more about issues at home then overseas. Its my opinion if you don't like it fuck off.

For the record Yes I run a very succesfull business. Why are you getting personal with me? Do you want to compare bank statements or cocks fuck head.

Joe Citizen · 11-03-2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Most countries do not guarantee their citizens the rights of freedom of speech, religion, free press, petition grievence, bare arms, a fair and speedy trial, privacy, private property. These are GUARANTEED in our constitution, most countries guarantee a few of these freedoms in their constitution, but not all of them.

Australia has all those freedoms you mention except the right to bear arms. Instead we have the right to be free of gun violence.

Personally I prefer that right.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by donnie
Yes, Sweden need your money.

Don't be stupid.

Actually, I wouldn't doubt it. Sweden has the highest tax rate in the industrialized world. Americans pay about half the taxes of Swedes, which gives us more money to spend, which supports our robust economy. Sorry, but Sweden's economy pales in comparisson to America's economy, even at Sweden's best and America's worst.

Webby · 11-03-2004, 02:26 PM

Ian:

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I read these posts and think it's sad how many people know so little about history and the world around them, amazing.

Amazing?

I am fucking stunned by the astounding ignorance. I've never seen this level of crass stupidity from any nation on the earth that comes from some in the US.

I sure hope, tho that's failing, that this is not the average intelligence of others in the US.

If so, it's better they be put down at birth - I can see why there is a fetish about abortion there.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
No, you're wrong.

Why don't you tell us about all the freedoms we're missing?

Name ONE country that has more freedoms guaranteed to its citizens in its constitution. I'll wait.

ColBigBalls · 11-03-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Buff
The United States of America is THE SUPERPOWER -- the rest of the world is one big shit hole.

We can wipe all of you out on a whim, militarily. We can bury your countries economically as an afterthought.

You are insiginificant fleas and we are the greatest country in the history of the world.

Your opinions are insignificant. You're impotent. We run the world, and you live and die at our pleasure.

Suck on that you trick ass bitches.

Go Fuck Yourself

this is probly the most retarded statement i have ever seen on GFY

1 there is no economic super power.. 3 % of the us economy is saudi money.. not to mention japan or europe

"Suck on that you trick ass bitches" OK you dont live in the ghetto your probly not black and your not a pimp so talk like an adult and pull your head out of your ass and relize that the US is in a pretty poor place right now.

"Your opinions are insignificant. You're impotent. We run the world, and you live and die at our pleasure." This is why you cant tour outside your countrie

Joe Citizen · 11-03-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Male
I am stupid and ignorant because I believe the US should keep out of other countries affairs?

No, you're just naive to think it's even possible.

Furious_Male · 11-03-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by eisbaer
Never thought a Kerry voter had such a low intellect. How about spending some of your 350billion Pentagon for foreign aid and take some 100 billion to fix things at home instead of whining about how much money is spend in foreign aid.

and about the googled figures. There are countries out there with newspapers who really contain content. Yes really! not only full page ads for 5 MPG SUV's.

We know these numbers here in Europe, we don't have to google them, as America is famous for spending all the money for military but not for Foreign Aid. And now a Democrat whines how many is spend for foreign aid. Yes I have to widen my horizont as I always thought Democrats would care about such things.

Go out and buy some thing to read, can you? I guess in the next biggest town only 300 miles away is a newsstand where you can get a real newspaper.

You just agreed with what I have been trying to say.
Are you a fucking idiot or what? Let me say this one more time. I believe in taking the foreign aid and using it at home. That is where I feel its better spent. Its just my opinion. I am not going to go in circles with you. Its obvious you have a fucking issue comprehending a god damn thing.

And yes you did google that. Those figures were copied and pasted. Don't try to act like your such the fucking genious.

dcortez · 11-03-2004, 02:29 PM

Many of us outside the US sincerely empathise with those of you who did not support a 4 year extension of the current regime. We had all hoped that common sense would prevail.

However, regardless of specific issues, in terms of world perception, what used to be viewed as and 'tolerated' (pending your election) as the fundamentalist ramblings and crude reactions (no pun intended) by a guy called george and his rich croneys, your democratic process suggests that the majority (albiet slight) of your country, the United States of America supports this.

This is surprising, disappointing, and very frightening.

Your country is not united - it is clearly and seriously divided as evidenced by your election results.

There are over 100,000,000 people in your country who do not endorse what has gone on in the past 4 years and, apparently, are helpless to do anything about it.

Further and unfortunately, the half of your nation which feels victimized by the rest of the planet, and believes to be under constant threat of 'attack', has been enabled by your democratic process to further its paranoia, intentional misinformation, fear mongering, 'why us' attitude, and resulting unfounded 'pre-emptive' strikes.

I don't think I'm alone when I mark a new date in my calendar as a devastating moment in world history:

Nov/02/2004

Good luck to our sensible 'American Cousins' and friends - please let us know if there is anything we can do to help you work towards a more globally respectful and responsible democracy.

We're all in this together!

ColBigBalls · 11-03-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Name ONE country that has more freedoms guaranteed to its citizens in its constitution. I'll wait.

Canada.. gay people can get married here

Denmark.. the whole controlled drung and prostatution thing

among others

Furious_Male · 11-03-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
No, you're just naive to think it's even possible.

I was simply stating some basic ideas. Is it possible at this point. Probably not. But changes have to be made. We have to make an effort not to get involved in places we don't belong.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Were you born afflicted or was this thru some life experience?

You are clearly insane... or amazingly ignorant of this world.

I suspect both are applicable - the prerequisite for being a citizen of Camp USA.

Instead of pulling out facts, you pull out insults. I accept your concession!

Joe Citizen · 11-03-2004, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Male
I was simply stating some basic ideas. Is it possible at this point. Probably not. But changes have to be made. We have to make an effort not to get involved in places we don't belong.

You need to stop invading other countries unnecessarily and murdering their citizens.

That would be a good start.

chupachups · 11-03-2004, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Name ONE country that has more freedoms guaranteed to its citizens in its constitution. I'll wait.

Did they brainwash you? There are lots and lots of countries that have this. What are the US citizens guaranteed that no other country have the possibility to match?

Webby · 11-03-2004, 02:33 PM

Furious_Male:

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I am stupid and ignorant because I believe the US should keep out of other countries affairs? I am aware of of the state of my countries financial situations. I believe a step towards improving them would be to worry more about issues at home then overseas. Its my opinion if you don't like it fuck off.

Hey!! I got no problem with that!

I did have a problem with a kinda weird question you had about, - who does the US owe loads of money to??

Answer? Many many billions to many countries, in particular Asia.

I also run a biz and I sure as hell want to know who I owe money to. It's probably the wiser to know this.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Australia has all those freedoms you mention except the right to bear arms. Instead we have the right to be free of gun violence.

Personally I prefer that right.

Has crime lowered ANY?

My point stands, no single country guarantees as many freedoms as America does. If anyone can prove otherwise (and I mean proof, not rhetoric), I'll gladly pack my bags and move there.

Furious_Male · 11-03-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
You need to stop invading other countries unnecessarily and murdering their citizens.

That would be a good start.

I think that falls in line with staying out of places we don't belong. Yes I agree.

Joe Citizen · 11-03-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Name ONE country that has more freedoms guaranteed to its citizens in its constitution. I'll wait.

The Netherlands has gay marriage, legal euthanasia and decriminalised soft drugs.

There's three that you don't have.

Webby · 11-03-2004, 02:37 PM

CET:

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Instead of pulling out facts

You don't introduce any facts - nada.

Only your ignorant opinions - tho that might be after that intensive research you wasted time doing.

Do you expect any serious discussion?? Sure hope not.

Joe Citizen · 11-03-2004, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by Furious_Male
I think that falls in line with staying out of places we don't belong. Yes I agree.

Then we agree.

Furious_Male · 11-03-2004, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Then we agree.

Usualy No

But regarding this issue yes it looks like we do.

Tala · 11-03-2004, 02:38 PM

Honest opinion, take it for what it's worth. No matter which of the candidates, (and I use the term very loosely), won, we'd still be the laughingstock of the rest of the world. We've gotten entirely too arrogant in our "nobility" and entirely too complacent.

VIVE LE REVOLUCION!!!! (Okay, wishful thinking, my bad...)

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by dcortez
Many of us outside the US sincerely empathise with those of you who did not support a 4 year extension of the current regime. We had all hoped that common sense would prevail.

Ironically "common sense" did prevail. Conservatives prefer to use "common sense" rather then facts, logic or the scientific method. Of course, common sense would contradict quantum physics, yet it is the most well tested and accepted set of theories in scientific history, even more so then general relativity and gravity. Conservatives preach to pay attention to common sense and ignore everything else. Unforutnately, common sense is not all it's cracked up to be.

Tala · 11-03-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Name ONE country that has more freedoms guaranteed to its citizens in its constitution. I'll wait.

Mmmmkay.

Let's rewrite that sentence a bit for those who aren't getting it.

"Name ONE country that has MORE freedoms..." Not DIFFERENT freedoms.

Carry on.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by ColBigBalls
Canada.. gay people can get married here

Denmark.. the whole controlled drung and prostatution thing

among others

You listed different things that are legal, not guaranteed freedoms.

I'll reitterate, if anyone can name ONE country that GUARANTEES more FREEDOMS then America does, I'll gladly move there.

chupachups · 11-03-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by Tala
Honest opinion, take it for what it's worth. No matter which of the candidates, (and I use the term very loosely), won, we'd still be the laughingstock of the rest of the world. We've gotten entirely too arrogant in our "nobility" and entirely too complacent.

VIVE LE REVOLUCION!!!! (Okay, wishful thinking, my bad...)

I dont think so to be honest. It would have been totally different if Kerry won. Remember, the world would prefer, almost anyone, instead of Bush....

Tala · 11-03-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Ironically "common sense" did prevail. Conservatives prefer to use "common sense" rather then facts, logic or the scientific method. Of course, common sense would contradict quantum physics, yet it is the most well tested and accepted set of theories in scientific history, even more so then general relativity and gravity. Conservatives preach to pay attention to common sense and ignore everything else. Unforutnately, common sense is not all it's cracked up to be.

It's too early for this...

Webby · 11-03-2004, 02:42 PM

CET:

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My point stands, no single country guarantees as many freedoms as America does. If anyone can prove otherwise (and I mean proof, not rhetoric), I'll gladly pack my bags and move there.

Astounding stupidity.

The US is now THE most unfree country in the Western World.

There are MANY countries who have more "freedoms" than the US and many other advantages, - but you clearly don't know this.

No.. please don't inflict any other country with your residency - they are often not so tolerant of US idiots.

Tala · 11-03-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
I dont think so to be honest. It would have been totally different if Kerry won. Remember, the world would prefer, almost anyone, instead of Bush....

True. However, would Kerry necessarily have been a beter President, or was he just thrown up by the Democratic party in a vain attempt, (sadly), to get Bush out of office?

Joe Citizen · 11-03-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by CET
You listed different things that are legal, not guaranteed freedoms.

I'll reitterate, if anyone can name ONE country that GUARANTEES more FREEDOMS then America does, I'll gladly move there.

Why do you want more, wouldn't the same amount be enough?

chupachups · 11-03-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by CET
You listed different things that are legal, not guaranteed freedoms.

I'll reitterate, if anyone can name ONE country that GUARANTEES more FREEDOMS then America does, I'll gladly move there.

What are those perticular "freedoms" you are talking about?

dcortez · 11-03-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Ironically "common sense" did prevail. Conservatives prefer to use "common sense" rather then facts, logic or the scientific method. Of course, common sense would contradict quantum physics, yet it is the most well tested and accepted set of theories in scientific history, even more so then general relativity and gravity. Conservatives preach to pay attention to common sense and ignore everything else. Unforutnately, common sense is not all it's cracked up to be.

Fair enough.

I hoped, the jist of my message was clear.

In lieu of 'common sense' (which is more a naive aspiration), let's use 'level-headed, balanced globally responsible' instead.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
Did they brainwash you? There are lots and lots of countries that have this. What are the US citizens guaranteed that no other country have the possibility to match?

This is a matter of research and special intrest to me. I've spent a great deal of time comparing constitutions, tort law, etc., to find another country that guarantees more freedomes. If I can find another country that has more guaranteed freedoms then the American constitution guarantees, I'll move to that country. I have yet to find that country. If you've found it, then spit it out, I'd genuinely love to hear it.

Tala · 11-03-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
CET:

Astounding stupidity.

The US is now THE most unfree country in the Western World.

There are MANY countries who have more "freedoms" than the US and many other advantages, - but you clearly don't know this.

No.. please don't inflict any other country with your residency - they are often not so tolerant of US idiots.

Webby, please stop with the namecalling. I don't appreciate being lumped into the generalized "US idiots" box. Thanks.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
You need to stop invading other countries unnecessarily and murdering their citizens.

That would be a good start.

AMEN!

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
The Netherlands has gay marriage, legal euthanasia and decriminalised soft drugs.

There's three that you don't have.

1. You're listing things that are legal, not constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.

2. These are things we don't have, fine but we've got things they don't have.

Webby · 11-03-2004, 02:49 PM

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This is a matter of research and special intrest to me. I've spent a great deal of time comparing constitutions, tort law, etc., to find another country that guarantees more freedomes.

Is this retard serious???

"Comparing consititutions, tort law, etc,"

Hell.. that is one guy that is a VERY hard learner if he has not grasped even basic fundamental facts, yet spews rubbish about tort law.

Sheesh....

I have absolutely NADA sympathy for crass idiots like this.

Have a nice day in lala land

Joe Citizen · 11-03-2004, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by CET
This is a matter of research and special intrest to me. I've spent a great deal of time comparing constitutions, tort law, etc., to find another country that guarantees more freedomes. If I can find another country that has more guaranteed freedoms then the American constitution guarantees, I'll move to that country. I have yet to find that country. If you've found it, then spit it out, I'd genuinely love to hear it.

You are playing a semantic game by talking about 'guaranteed' freedoms.

You Americans NEED 'guaranteed' freedoms because you have a large population of rabid, fundamentalist Christians who are constantly trying to attack them.

Most other first world nations don't have this problem.

In practice, there are many countries that enjoy the same day to day freedoms that you enjoy. I live in one of them.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
CET:

You don't introduce any facts - nada.

Only your ignorant opinions - tho that might be after that intensive research you wasted time doing.

Do you expect any serious discussion?? Sure hope not.

Unlike you, I'm actually interested in being proven wrong. If someone can produce and prove that another country has more freedoms then America, then that's where I'm going to move to. It is greatly to my advantage that someone prove me wrong. You, on the other hand, just want someone to bitch at. I bet you're a really frustrated individual. Probably either money or relationship problems.

chupachups · 11-03-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by CET
This is a matter of research and special intrest to me. I've spent a great deal of time comparing constitutions, tort law, etc., to find another country that guarantees more freedomes. If I can find another country that has more guaranteed freedoms then the American constitution guarantees, I'll move to that country. I have yet to find that country. If you've found it, then spit it out, I'd genuinely love to hear it.

Ok, fair enough. So what are they, what do you have that many other western countries dont?

Manowar · 11-03-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by dcortez
Many of us outside the US sincerely empathise with those of you who did not support a 4 year extension of the current regime. We had all hoped that common sense would prevail.

However, regardless of specific issues, in terms of world perception, what used to be viewed as and 'tolerated' (pending your election) as the fundamentalist ramblings and crude reactions (no pun intended) by a guy called george and his rich croneys, your democratic process suggests that the majority (albiet slight) of your country, the United States of America supports this.

This is surprising, disappointing, and very frightening.

Your country is not united - it is clearly and seriously divided as evidenced by your election results.

There are over 100,000,000 people in your country who do not endorse what has gone on in the past 4 years and, apparently, are helpless to do anything about it.

Further and unfortunately, the half of your nation which feels victimized by the rest of the planet, and believes to be under constant threat of 'attack', has been enabled by your democratic process to further its paranoia, intentional misinformation, fear mongering, 'why us' attitude, and resulting unfounded 'pre-emptive' strikes.

I don't think I'm alone when I mark a new date in my calendar as a devastating moment in world history:

Nov/02/2004

Good luck to our sensible 'American Cousins' and friends - please let us know if there is anything we can do to help you work towards a more globally respectful and responsible democracy.

We're all in this together!

Best post i've read all day.

Tala · 11-03-2004, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Is this retard serious???

"Comparing consititutions, tort law, etc,"

Hell.. that is one guy that is a VERY hard learner if he has not grasped even basic fundamental facts, yet spews rubbish about tort law.

Sheesh....

I have absolutely NADA sympathy for crass idiots like this.

Have a nice day in lala land

Instead of namecalling, prove him wrong.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Chupachups
I dont think so to be honest. It would have been totally different if Kerry won. Remember, the world would prefer, almost anyone, instead of Bush....

I disagree, look at Kerry's platform and compare it to Bush's. They were practically identical with a few minor differences.

CET · 11-03-2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
CET:

Astounding stupidity.

The US is now THE most unfree country in the Western World.

There are MANY countries who have more "freedoms" than the US and many other advantages, - but you clearly don't know this.

No.. please don't inflict any other country with your residency - they are often not so tolerant of US idiots.

You have now made a positive claim, now prove it. If you can prove it, then I'll be moving to the country that has more guaranteed freedoms. I'll wait.

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dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	Many of us outside the US sincerely empathise with those of you who did not support a 4 year extension of the current regime. We had all hoped that common sense would prevail. However, regardless of specific issues, in terms of world perception, what used to be viewed as and 'tolerated' (pending your election) as the fundamentalist ramblings and crude reactions (no pun intended) by a guy called george and his rich croneys, your democratic process suggests that the majority (albiet slight) of your country, the United States of America supports this. This is surprising, disappointing, and very frightening. Your country is not united - it is clearly and seriously divided as evidenced by your election results. There are over 100,000,000 people in your country who do not endorse what has gone on in the past 4 years and, apparently, are helpless to do anything about it. Further and unfortunately, the half of your nation which feels victimized by the rest of the planet, and believes to be under constant threat of 'attack', has been enabled by your democratic process to further its paranoia, intentional misinformation, fear mongering, 'why us' attitude, and resulting unfounded 'pre-emptive' strikes. I don't think I'm alone when I mark a new date in my calendar as a devastating moment in world history: Nov/02/2004 Good luck to our sensible 'American Cousins' and friends - please let us know if there is anything we can do to help you work towards a more globally respectful and responsible democracy. We're all in this together!