mpa3 vs nats - GoFuckYourself.com

nickjcuk · 10-20-2004, 03:48 AM

Would be nice to hear from both sides!

webmaster x · 10-20-2004, 03:49 AM

I keep hearing about NATS. Would be nice to hear re MPA3

TMM_John · 10-20-2004, 06:06 AM

Hey guys

Let me know if you want me to ramble on about NATS in here. You can get a pretty good idea of the software by taking a look here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=374461&s=

The NATS url is http://www.toomuchmedia.com/nats for anyone who may need it.

MPA3 is an improvement over MPA2, but still not as stable or as flexible as NATS IMO.

We have moved a number of clients from MPA2/3 to NATS. Not one client has yet moved from NATS to a competing software (MPA, etc.), that should speak for itself.

Let me know if you'd like more info on the software.

Thanks!

nickjcuk · 10-20-2004, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PBucksJohn

MPA3 is an improvement over MPA2, but still not as stable or as flexible as NATS IMO.

Right, so what exactly does NATS do that MPA3 doesn't (or vise versa)?

Basic_man · 10-20-2004, 08:52 AM

I personnaly prefer sponsors that use NATS !

Giorgio_Xo · 10-20-2004, 08:52 AM

Don't forget X3Scripts affiliate proggie. It is used by several large programs (Nasty Dollars, Oxcash, Soulcash, Extreme Paychecks, etc.) and only costs $7500 installed.

nickjcuk · 10-20-2004, 09:07 AM

When MPA2 first launched everybody was going on how great the software was. After 6 months of using them people started slating them, what makes NATS different? Are we gonna start to see the same threads in a few months time?

I find it increasingly hard to trust anybody out there with their latest software, as 99% of it is all hyped up on these boards (much like everything) Seems like the only way to really test how great the affiliate software is, would be to actually use it yourself.... but moving over takes time, its a lot of hassle.. Is a move from mpa2/3 worth it?

What is needed is an independent review of both pieces of software on their usability, future expansion, stability etc etc, so then we can make an informed choice, not just a "well Lensman uses it so it must be good" decision......

Lots of companies made their choice to use MPA mostly because of how every fucker out there wouldn't stop going on about how great they are... now suddenly they are crap, always have been and NATS is the only affiliate software you need..

Nathan · 10-20-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickjcuk
Right, so what exactly does NATS do that MPA3 doesn't (or vise versa)?

Hi nick,

NATS has more billers
NATS has better cascading
NATS has more payout structures
NATS has more program types
NATS has more configuration for sites
NATS has limited trials
NATS has easy templates via SMARTY
and more...

I can not talk for MPA3, but I have not seen any full MPA3 installations yet.

Regarding your 2nd, bigger post nick:

First of all, we are already more than 10 months old. Our first client got on board on 5th or 6th January in Vegas. (dukedollars.com).
But I understand your concerns, this industry has a lot of hype all the time, but our feedback is not hype. The people that came to us did make more money, they did come to us because their previous software, whatever it was, was not running good enough or was missing features which we already offer.

You call for an independent review, and I am all for it. But how do you expect this to work. If you can suggest someone that is knowledgable enough that would review multiple affiliate programs, I would be very interested in it, but it will be hard to find someone that would do it and that is not in any way bribable.

wiggitywack · 10-20-2004, 11:20 AM

X3 is the shiznit of the shiznit

BruceM · 10-20-2004, 11:34 AM

NATS

Crypt · 10-20-2004, 11:36 AM

NATS ;)

Gynecologist · 10-20-2004, 11:38 AM

Is there a master list of all sponsors who use NATS?

deniska · 10-20-2004, 11:51 AM

another

for NATS

willysbirthday · 10-20-2004, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiggitywack
X3 is the shiznit of the shiznit

Agreed

TheSenator · 10-20-2004, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gynecologist
Is there a master list of all sponsors who use NATS?

That would be cool

TMM_John · 10-20-2004, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nickjcuk
When MPA2 first launched everybody was going on how great the software was. After 6 months of using them people started slating them, what makes NATS different? Are we gonna start to see the same threads in a few months time?

I find it increasingly hard to trust anybody out there with their latest software, as 99% of it is all hyped up on these boards (much like everything) Seems like the only way to really test how great the affiliate software is, would be to actually use it yourself.... but moving over takes time, its a lot of hassle.. Is a move from mpa2/3 worth it?

Yes, people often hype their own software of course and that is hard to see through, read this thread tho: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=374461&s= for some feedback from actual people using the software and/or contact some yourself.

As for a master list, we are working on one and hope to have it live ASAP.

Argoz · 10-20-2004, 12:10 PM

how much for NATS?

Manowar · 10-20-2004, 12:12 PM

NATS.

TMM_John · 10-20-2004, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pixhell
how much for NATS?

http://www.toomuchmedia.com/nats/requestaquote.html

has a full price schedule.

NATS ranges from $150 to $650 per month depending on sales volume and # of sites. These are not "caps" but just tiers. If you go over either you are simply bumped to the next tier on your next invoice. Your program is not limited in any way and there is never a fee for moving up a tier.

There is an outright option also for $12,500 onetime.

justsexxx · 10-20-2004, 01:36 PM

Does any cascading processor offer Verotel yet?

Nathan · 10-20-2004, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx
Does any cascading processor offer Verotel yet?

No, verotel is missing essential features for integrating external referral systems into their setup.

We are in talks with verotel though and I plan to go to their office to talk to the managers about it sometime next month hopefully.

SKULL · 10-20-2004, 03:26 PM

All I know about MPA is that it has a shaving feature in it

... a lot of webmasters know this and try to stay away from sponsors using MPA..

justsexxx · 10-20-2004, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathan
No, verotel is missing essential features for integrating external referral systems into their setup.

We are in talks with verotel though and I plan to go to their office to talk to the managers about it sometime next month hopefully.

Sounds good!

Tipsy · 10-20-2004, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SKULL
All I know about MPA is that it has a shaving feature in it ... a lot of webmasters know this and try to stay away from sponsors using MPA..

Then you really don't know what you're talking about as it's v3 being discussed.

There's no doubt about it NATS IS a great bit of kit. However I wonder how many giving it a

actually own a copy and how many others have any idea of the features in MPA3. It'd be nice to acurately compare the 2.

wyvern · 10-20-2004, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathan

NATS has better cascading
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How is that? Could you elaborate please?

jmk · 10-20-2004, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SKULL
All I know about MPA is that it has a shaving feature in it ... a lot of webmasters know this and try to stay away from sponsors using MPA..

So you think that with NATS you CAN'T shave?

Steen2 · 10-20-2004, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jmk
So you think that with NATS you CAN'T shave?

If the code is encoded (of course it is), I don't see how you could. Too Much Media has said many times it refuses to add a shave feature.

SKULL · 10-20-2004, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jmk
So you think that with NATS you CAN'T shave?

No I didn't say that.. I just don't know if this can be done using NATS, I have not seen that kind of evidence about NATS like I did on previous threads about MPA...

djdez · 10-20-2004, 04:20 PM

5 technical support incidents seems rather light.... also now mpa responds to my support tickets in 12-24 hours... or instantly if I need it.

Support is weighted more in my book. How much are upgrades - what is your hourly rate for customization?

migrating from ccbill to nats is one thing... but migrating to nats from another self contained affiliate system is another. Just the hassle alone of telling wm's to change their urls is enough to make me shy.

Blazing · 10-20-2004, 04:26 PM

We use MPA3.. ( www.sexycitycash.com )

I must admit that MPA2 was a piece of crap, and at the time so was the support... mansion has done well placing qualified techs at your service 24/7

Big differences from MPA2 to MPA3..

1) the shave feature is gone...
2) more payout structures added
3) Tracking code capabilities
4) ability to assign sites to individual ownership to payout a % of overall commissions to 3rd party site owners.
5) bonus point and reward system added.

and more...

I will say that although I wish NATS was available when we bought this system, I am satisfied now with the product and the level of support given. In addition, they are always working on improving the system, and are giving NATS a run for thier money...

ok.. and for all that.. i should at least put in a plug...

We have specialized SHEMALE sites that convert and retain very well.. please give us a shot and test out MPA3 yourself...

feel free to contact me icq 7703879, we work hand in hand with our affiliate needs...

www.sexycitycash.com

Blazing · 10-20-2004, 04:33 PM

I just want to add that the migration from mpa2 to mpa3 was as seamless as could be.. mansion took care of everything, including some custom integration needs we had...

also.. in regards to the new gallery builder feature mpa3 has... I have a programmer that customized our gallery builder to work seemless with MPA3 and its really awesome.. hit me up if you want details....

Nathan · 10-20-2004, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wyvern
How is that? Could you elaborate please?

You are not limited to a single cascade.
You can cascade between billing types.
You can target single entries in a cascade to countries.
You can target whole cascades to countries (so that the associated "join via" option is not displayed on the join form)
You can display templates in the middle of cascades.
You can redirect to URLs in the middle of cascades.

There simply are more options which help you fine tune your signup process.

Nathan · 10-20-2004, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djdez
5 technical support incidents seems rather light.... also now mpa responds to my support tickets in 12-24 hours... or instantly if I need it.

Support is weighted more in my book. How much are upgrades - what is your hourly rate for customization?

migrating from ccbill to nats is one thing... but migrating to nats from another self contained affiliate system is another. Just the hassle alone of telling wm's to change their urls is enough to make me shy.

1) NATS has 5 support instances included per month, yes. These are only those instances which actually you caused, for example if you go and delete half the database. Noone has yet gone over their 5 support instances.

2) Upgrades are free if you lease. Outright customers are only going to have to pay if there is a MAJOR upgrade, which has not happened yet. Ask any of our clients how often we update their version of NATS. You will be amaized. Customization, if it is unusable by any other client is around 100 USD / hour, if it is reusable it is between 0 and 60 USD / hour depending on how reusable it is. To this date, I would say only around 5% of the customization done has cost the client anything.

3) Who ever said your webmasters have to change their links when you move from someone like MPA to NATS?
We import your whole MPA database as detailed as we can. The only thing you have to do is setup new tours using NATS coding, setup some of your ad tools again (FHGs are imported). Your reseller's old MPA links act as their Default NATS campaign.

10-20-2004, 03:48 AM	#1
nickjcuk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 72	mpa3 vs nats Would be nice to hear from both sides!

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10-20-2004, 06:06 AM	#3
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,660	Hey guys Let me know if you want me to ramble on about NATS in here. You can get a pretty good idea of the software by taking a look here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=374461&s= The NATS url is http://www.toomuchmedia.com/nats for anyone who may need it. MPA3 is an improvement over MPA2, but still not as stable or as flexible as NATS IMO. We have moved a number of clients from MPA2/3 to NATS. Not one client has yet moved from NATS to a competing software (MPA, etc.), that should speak for itself. Let me know if you'd like more info on the software. Thanks! __________________ Skype: JohnA1078 Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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10-20-2004, 09:07 AM	#7
nickjcuk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 72	When MPA2 first launched everybody was going on how great the software was. After 6 months of using them people started slating them, what makes NATS different? Are we gonna start to see the same threads in a few months time? I find it increasingly hard to trust anybody out there with their latest software, as 99% of it is all hyped up on these boards (much like everything) Seems like the only way to really test how great the affiliate software is, would be to actually use it yourself.... but moving over takes time, its a lot of hassle.. Is a move from mpa2/3 worth it? What is needed is an independent review of both pieces of software on their usability, future expansion, stability etc etc, so then we can make an informed choice, not just a "well Lensman uses it so it must be good" decision...... Lots of companies made their choice to use MPA mostly because of how every fucker out there wouldn't stop going on about how great they are... now suddenly they are crap, always have been and NATS is the only affiliate software you need..

10-20-2004, 11:20 AM	#9
wiggitywack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 561	X3 is the shiznit of the shiznit

10-20-2004, 11:34 AM	#10
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10-20-2004, 04:20 PM	#29
djdez Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 224	5 technical support incidents seems rather light.... also now mpa responds to my support tickets in 12-24 hours... or instantly if I need it. Support is weighted more in my book. How much are upgrades - what is your hourly rate for customization? migrating from ccbill to nats is one thing... but migrating to nats from another self contained affiliate system is another. Just the hassle alone of telling wm's to change their urls is enough to make me shy. __________________ Email: [email protected] PrideBucks - Making Gay Pay since 2003 GayAdPros.com - Buy. Sell. Exclusively Gay Traffic ICQ: 69711443

10-20-2004, 04:26 PM	#30
Blazing Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Irvine, CA, USA Posts: 1,665	We use MPA3.. ( www.sexycitycash.com ) I must admit that MPA2 was a piece of crap, and at the time so was the support... mansion has done well placing qualified techs at your service 24/7 Big differences from MPA2 to MPA3.. 1) the shave feature is gone... 2) more payout structures added 3) Tracking code capabilities 4) ability to assign sites to individual ownership to payout a % of overall commissions to 3rd party site owners. 5) bonus point and reward system added. and more... I will say that although I wish NATS was available when we bought this system, I am satisfied now with the product and the level of support given. In addition, they are always working on improving the system, and are giving NATS a run for thier money... ok.. and for all that.. i should at least put in a plug... We have specialized SHEMALE sites that convert and retain very well.. please give us a shot and test out MPA3 yourself... feel free to contact me icq 7703879, we work hand in hand with our affiliate needs... www.sexycitycash.com

10-20-2004, 04:33 PM	#31
Blazing Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Irvine, CA, USA Posts: 1,665	I just want to add that the migration from mpa2 to mpa3 was as seamless as could be.. mansion took care of everything, including some custom integration needs we had... also.. in regards to the new gallery builder feature mpa3 has... I have a programmer that customized our gallery builder to work seemless with MPA3 and its really awesome.. hit me up if you want details.... __________________ [email protected] ICQ 7703879