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Old 09-27-2004, 09:29 AM   #51
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Please someone figure this out

this past few weeks i was senting traffic to pills site
havn't got any sales




so without no proof i can't argue

I ordered MY SELF 1 month of pills with my ref code on sept22



and i still SEE 0$

wtf ?
Looking into this right now, will get back to you asap

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Old 09-27-2004, 09:56 AM   #52
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:59 AM   #53
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Translation: Oh FUCK! We are going to need at least an hour to come up with a reasonable excuse! Please wait.
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:00 AM   #54
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:09 AM   #55
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it should be common practice to sign up at your sponsors site to see if the sale goes through.
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:12 AM   #56
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Looking into this right now, will get back to you asap

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Old 09-27-2004, 10:23 AM   #57
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Translation: Oh FUCK! We are going to need at least an hour to come up with a reasonable excuse! Please wait.
Lol...


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Old 09-27-2004, 10:31 AM   #58
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Cahek.. hey, where did you go man?

Can you please hit me up on ICQ #233854608 - we're trying to get to the bottom of this, but I need your help.

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Old 09-27-2004, 10:33 AM   #59
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Xpay is strait up..... they dont shave one bit just a bunch of haters out there that have nothing better to do!!
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:41 AM   #60
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Xpay is strait up..... they dont shave one bit just a bunch of haters out there that have nothing better to do!!
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:43 AM   #61
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Yes, and postcount means everything right?
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:44 AM   #62
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That means nothing... I never post I read, this is like a big soap opera board. GET REAL BRO
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:46 AM   #63
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:47 AM   #64
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Translation: Oh FUCK! We are going to need at least an hour to come up with a reasonable excuse! Please wait.
LOL.. very funny man..

No, when an affiliate has a concern about our program then we should look into it don't you think?

rather than speculating and throwing up 'any old excuse' it's better for us to evaluate the issue itself and provide an educated and researched and TRUE answer. We are professionals after all.

We do not shave, and I'll refer you back to Brad's post about us. He worked here for about a year and didn't see or hear any signs of shaving.. yknow why? Cos we don't, and we never have. And he's got NOTHING to lose by flaming us on the board here.. so I would hope that that would show you guys something.

We are trying to resolve this issue with Cahek, and appreciate the support that we've seen through this thread from our other affiliates and friends on GFY.

We will provide an update once we've gotten to the bottom of this.

Thanks all.

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Old 09-27-2004, 10:53 AM   #65
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:58 AM   #66
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Course it means nothing ;)
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:06 AM   #67
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rather than speculating and throwing up 'any old excuse' it's better for us to evaluate the issue itself and provide an educated and researched and TRUE answer. We are professionals after all.
There is two possibilities, he's a liar, or you didnt credit him a sale he made (shaving/glitch/fucked up database/doesnt matter what you call it because he's not getting the money he earned).. which is it?
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and I'll refer you back to Brad's post about us. He worked here for about a year and didn't see or hear any signs of shaving..
Thousands of tgp owners have NEVER used a hitbot, doesnt mean they wont tommorow. The only thing that matters is either he's not getting credit for sales he made, or he's a liar.. which is it?
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We are trying to resolve this issue with Cahek, and appreciate the support that we've seen through this thread from our other affiliates and friends on GFY.
Well of course you are, look what happens when you don't (PIBcash). But the damage is fucking done, either you need to prove he's a liar or you're admitting people are not getting credit for sales, call it shaving, glitches, bad tracking, database error, whatfucking ever. If he's missing sales so is everyone else, or is it conviniently the ONLY sale thats ever dissappeared is the one test sale the guy made.. i bet thats the case too.

And whats with the people that defend shaving, "only matters who sends the biggest checks" - "it happens im not worried about it"... thats some bullshit right there.. if someone breaks into your car and steals the stereo do you say "no big deal, they left me the rest of my car".. fucking idiots...
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:10 AM   #68
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Reasonable. There should be some billing confirmation. CAHEK, show it to us.
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I worked for xtremepay and I can vouch that the ENTIRE time I was there not a SINGLE sale was EVER shaved. They do NOT shave. I don't care what some haters reply with (oh everyone shaves blah blah) these guys didn't not once.
Did you have enough access to know?
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:24 AM   #72
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second image? "payment" "to" "herbal gold"
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Yo relax and I am back... I been consulting for Xtremepay and I think you are making fals accusations without even contacting me or Ruth...

Seriously hit me up on ICQ you are on my list
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:36 AM   #74
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There's not many people I would trust in this industry but Duane, Kevin, JMan and Ruth are in that very select group. XtremePay is as good as they come!
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There's not many people I would trust in this industry but Duane, Kevin, JMan and Ruth are in that very select group. XtremePay is as good as they come!
regged this month (yesterday maybe?) and 14 posts... owner or just an employee? which is it?
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:42 AM   #76
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regged this month (yesterday maybe?) and 14 posts... owner or just an employee? which is it?
*looks at calendar* Damn, I didn't know my time travel device was successful!
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Brad let the ass clowns be. Dont' waist your time.

I have hit Cahek up and Ruth as well. These accusations will be solved very shortly if he gets back to me
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:51 AM   #78
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Yup, I fucked that up.. doesnt change the fact that he's either getting fucked over or he's a liar.
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Brad let the ass clowns be. Dont' waist your time.

I have hit Cahek up and Ruth as well. These accusations will be solved very shortly if he gets back to me
Yup, I'm an assclown.. I assume because I love watching scammers go down. Yup, don't waste your time, try to get it off the boards, pretend you never got nailed with the missing test sale and hope it goes away right rconner?
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Protect yourself so you don't get shaved, use sponsors that use NATS
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Does it make any sense to shave all of someone's sales? If a sponser can't send me a single sale they aren't going to be around very long.
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Yup, I'm an assclown.. I assume because I love watching scammers go down. Yup, don't waste your time, try to get it off the boards, pretend you never got nailed with the missing test sale and hope it goes away right rconner?
LMAO obviously you are not in the loop so why don't you do yourself a favor and STFU or if you really want to talk about this and see if my clients are scammers hit me up on ICQ: 124588247 or even call me 1 416 879-2287

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Old 09-27-2004, 12:28 PM   #83
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Old 09-27-2004, 12:34 PM   #84
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Okay, so here?s the deal guys.

I have spoken with Cahek and identified the site where the sale was sent. Our team have since evaluated the Paypal links on that site and discovered that our affiliate tracking variable was not attached to those links.

This is a case of HUMAN error, and NOT company philosophy. We do NOT shave.

We have taken the last little while to look through EVERY one of our sites to determine where the errors lie and have discovered that www.refreshacne.com and www.pmsfree.com are the only two sites that have been neglected in the addition of these Paypal affiliate variables.

So here?s what happened and why:

A couple of months ago we had to switch our Paypal accounts due to problems with our primary account based on the HGHfx spray we sell and the issues Paypal had with that product. When we switched links to a different Paypal account a couple of our sites had the wrong Paypal links loaded up, ie: Paypal links were accurate but did NOT include the affiliate tracking variable. These two sites are:

www.refreshacne.com and www.pmsfree.com

Our main sites ? www.americas-drugstore.com and www.americas-drugstore.net (and the rest of our sites) have the correct affiliate tracking Paypal links so those sites are all good for tracking sales.

We are just now correcting our Paypal links on the two sites listed above and very shortly they will also be able to track your unique XtremePay affiliate ID through Paypal like the rest of our sites.

Since we have OBVIOUSLY made a mistake on our sites we would like to do the following:

1) Please accept our sincere apology for the error. There are no excuses, we should have had that site (and the other) fixed up properly.

2) For anyone who has had sales in the last two months (July ? current) for the following products ? Refresh Acne Control and Serenitee PMS Solutions - we will happily provide an additional 25% commission to your current commission total based on sales of that product. So for example, if you have earned $200 for the sales of Refresh Acne/Serenitee PMS between July 2004 and today, then we would provide you with an extra $50 on your payment to make up for any potential lost Paypal orders.

Paypal only accounts for approximately 1-2% of our revenue and sales, however we do recognize the need for affiliates to be properly recognized for the traffic and sales they send us which is why we are offering the compensation detailed above.

We WANT to reward our affiliates, and we believe in being fair and taking responsibility for our mistakes.

If you are concerned about your account, or are unsure if this applies to you, or if you need anything else at all! - please feel free to hit me up on ICQ #233854608 and we will go through your account together and make sure you have been properly assigned the correct commissions.

Again, we apologise for the error. We are correcting the problem and appreciate it being brought to our attention.

(Though it would have been nice for you to get in touch with us directly FIRST Cahek and allowed us the opportunity to do this without all the drama on GFY here? but I guess that?s just how some people handle things? we prefer to be professional)

Thanks again to all the peeps showing us love here. If you?ve worked with us in the past you?ll know that we care about our affiliates and strive to produce the best affiliate program possible. This has not, nor will it ever, change.

Regards

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Old 09-27-2004, 12:47 PM   #85
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Thanks a lot Ruth for getting to the bottom of this with this affiliate.

As ALL you guys can see Xtremepay works with there affiliates and offers the best support all around.

Also this brings us to see that, Xtremepay has decided to re install paypal processing for herbals and worked it so we are able to credit ALL affiliates for Paypal sales, Credit Card Sales and Phone sales.

I think we dont' call this shaving I think we call this MAXIMISING the revenue possibilities for our affiliates

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This was a good post and an extremely pro response from a company I have a lot of time for.
I have spoken to extremeJohn many times and have always been impressed with his professionialism.

Human error accounts for a load of our day to day problems - We have ALL made mistakes - If a sponsor makes one, he shaves - That simple!
Not with this programme -
Extremepaychecks are as good as programmes get
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:07 PM   #87
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JMAN runs a great ship
I hope I didn't offend him by my spammy post as i have apologized to him for that-

However it does show you that communication is key in this biz-
Don't take shit to the boards until after you have spoken directly to the people invloved

Character assassination in not good for biz...by the people slinging it and the people who accept to take this kind of abuse

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Okay, so here?s the deal guys.
Nice save Ignored the assclown (me) and handled it like a professional.


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Bleh
You on the other hand with the insults and the panicing and trying to get it off the boards... very very unprofessional. I'd fire your ass if you were working for me.
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This was a good post and an extremely pro response from a company I have a lot of time for.
I have spoken to extremeJohn many times and have always been impressed with his professionialism.

Human error accounts for a load of our day to day problems - We have ALL made mistakes - If a sponsor makes one, he shaves - That simple!
Not with this programme -
Extremepaychecks are as good as programmes get
Hey Harlot.. we're www.Xtremepay.com .. not extremepaychecks...
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Nice save Ignored the assclown (me) and handled it like a professional.


You on the other hand with the insults and the panicing and trying to get it off the boards... very very unprofessional. I'd fire your ass if you were working for me.
You are the one making the accusations about us and now you will be crying cause I got on your case... Come on your to funny now .

BTW I work for myself. And not planning on firing myself anytime soon.

If you want to start a fire like you where trying to don't cry if you get burn

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Looking into this right now, will get back to you asap

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Translation: Oh FUCK! We are going to need at least an hour to come up with a reasonable excuse! Please wait.

That was from YOU Eh?
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i think this is the answer, since jman i rememeber was with kman on the same team
Cahek just saw this post in this thread, guess i over looked it.

Now this is news for me.

I would really like to know when I was working with KMan, Hell I have nothing against the guy he seems all good but seriously when did this happen.

Am I suffering from some sort of memory lost

This thread goes to show when people don't have the facts straight and bring things public it always back fires a bit.

Ruth made sure to get the proper info and bring it back to you guys since you where all interested and had your popcorn in the popper waiting for more Drama.

Sorry that we had to ended this way.

KB thanks for the kind words bro and yes you are right Communication is something which can always create a bit of confusion. Be it in a company, a couple or amongst friends.

Glad we where able to pin point to issue and solve it.

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Old 09-27-2004, 01:35 PM   #92
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You are the one making the accusations about us and now you will be crying cause I got on your case... Come on your to funny now .
BTW I work for myself. And not planning on firing myself anytime soon.
Consultant/employee. semantics. they pay you money to do whatever it is you do, and can discontinue your services and stop paying you at any time. Theres NO difference, get over yourself, you are their employee if they are paying you.
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If you want to start a fire like you where trying to don't cry if you get burn
I got burned and am crying. LOL, get over yourself! maybe you should have someone read the thread to you s-l-o-w-l-y, you clearly missed the part where i told ruth she handled it like a professional

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Looking into this right now, will get back to you asap

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Translation: Oh FUCK! We are going to need at least an hour to come up with a reasonable excuse! Please wait.

That was from YOU Eh?
Fucking right it was sparky, and she handled it like a pro and proved it wrong, and I'll be right there for the next thread like this too, even if they have employees in the thread throwing around insults and making it look like they are trying to cover it up.
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:38 PM   #93
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Looks like a genuine mistake as no company would be daft enough to shave in a way that's so obvious so hopefully the trolls with give it up as a lost cause.

Great thread for ExtremePay in the end as they handled the whole thing well. Shame others never manage that for some reason.
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Old 09-27-2004, 01:41 PM   #94
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Great thread for ExtremePay in the end as they handled the whole thing well. Shame others never manage that for some reason.
I agree, but Jman could learn from his mistakes.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:02 PM   #96
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damn, my icq doesnt load up

anyways, all i want is that all affiliates are treated fairy as me as well

regards to kman, maybe due to my memory lost you were always supporting him during my posts . or maybe i was wrong
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:04 PM   #97
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damn, my icq doesnt load up

anyways, all i want is that all affiliates are treated fairy as me as well

regards to kman, maybe due to my memory lost you were always supporting him during my posts . or maybe i was wrong
you, my friend, are an idiot haha
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:13 PM   #98
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Ok guys here is the deal... we all know people can shave and will but when you get a company such as ExtreamPay who have been around like ourselves for years now and will be here for years to come... why would they shave?

Affiliates are the guys who are making the company profitable, ripping these people off would be indirectly ripping themselves off.

You may not agree with me but affiliates are the people that make or break companies. I have known Duane and Ruth for a few years now and I can honestly say "even though they are direct competitors of mine" they do not Shave.

Here at www.mensniche.com we reward our affiliates on EVERY possible way of ordering, including Mail and Phone Orders.

Also if you have a concern about traffic shaving you should contact the program support directly instead of posting shit on the boards.... this is peoples businesses getting bitch about, it takes years to build it up a honest set of affiliates, get your facts straight before bitching about this stuff!
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:23 PM   #99
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on a side note, i dont send traffic to extremepay, but i know someone who does that said they only update sales stats once a day. that just seems to fishy for me.
Ian hit me up, man.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:26 PM   #100
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Ok guys here is the deal... we all know people can shave and will but when you get a company such as ExtreamPay who have been around like ourselves for years now and will be here for years to come... why would they shave?

Affiliates are the guys who are making the company profitable, ripping these people off would be indirectly ripping themselves off.

You may not agree with me but affiliates are the people that make or break companies. I have known Duane and Ruth for a few years now and I can honestly say "even though they are direct competitors of mine" they do not Shave.

Here at www.mensniche.com we reward our affiliates on EVERY possible way of ordering, including Mail and Phone Orders.

Also if you have a concern about traffic shaving you should contact the program support directly instead of posting shit on the boards.... this is peoples businesses getting bitch about, it takes years to build it up a honest set of affiliates, get your facts straight before bitching about this stuff!
Thanks Andy, very good points..
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