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				ExtremePay.com Shaves Proof Inside
			 
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			this past few weeks i was senting traffic to pills site havn't got any sales   so without no proof i can't argue I ordered MY SELF 1 month of pills with my ref code on sept22   and i still SEE 0$ wtf ? 
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 Lame spam attempt 
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		 hit up Jman or Ruth for questions that is strange indeed  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Maybe they are just trying to fuck over the spammers. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 agreed. but a spam attempt none the less... and THAT'S what I get paid for :-)) Our products convert very well- 
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		 I don't know anything about this particular sponsor, but after trying a lot of programs for the first time it is clear they are either shaving or having technical issues. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	We built a bunch of TGP's to generate traffic for our own paysites, and then decided to fill them out with affiliate galleries. Our own galleries for our sites convert at an average of 8:1 better over sponsored galleries across the board. And all of our sites are niche. As well our trade scripts can measure uniques out, and you would be surprised how many programs are not counting correctly. It's clear after this experience that it is far more cost and traffic effective to just start our own sites rather than promote others.  | 
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 i think this is the answer, since jman i rememeber was with kman on the same team 
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		 So you got ripped off for $50, during the time it took you to post this you could of made another $50. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 a few lines of text, 15 seconds are you saying you make $50 every 2 minutes and 15 seconds? 
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		 Ok, I will never promote them again, thanks for info. Shavers should be exposed like that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 on a side note, i dont send traffic to extremepay, but i know someone who does that said they only update sales stats once a day. that just seems to fishy for me.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		   just sue them
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		 Great catch I KNEW something was fishy with the traffic I sent them GRRRrrrr 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 I worked for xtremepay and I can vouch that the ENTIRE time I was there not a SINGLE sale was EVER shaved. They do NOT shave. I don't care what some haters reply with (oh everyone shaves blah blah) these guys didn't not once. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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