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D-Money · 09-22-2004, 02:07 PM

150 Bills

directfiesta · 09-22-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by PornGeneral
Yup, and print your WM agreement and online statements.

Backed up eveything yesterday ....

And changed my join page to my Euro processor.

I hope that Ibill stays, If not, a lot of people are going to be hurt, including hosting companys, graphic guys, affiliates and so on ..

Johny Traffic · 09-22-2004, 02:11 PM

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I hope that Ibill stays, If not, a lot of people are going to be hurt, including hosting companys, graphic guys, affiliates and so on ..

exactly, not good news for anyone

Theo · 09-22-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
The company still has some value. It all comes down to the quality of their management. A super star CEO could pull out of it.

You see that's the main thing that worries me. The website is the front of your business and when you see ibill's site for several months to give javascript errors and when you try to signup and you are getting redirected to irrelevant pages it shows the whole mechanism doesn't function properly. Did their management crew moved fast enough and effectively to prevent the collapse or this time the delay will be fatal?

Most will say that it's an overall loss for the industry, but they'll really realise the meaning of their words through time.

baddog · 09-22-2004, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by lawked
Right strikes again?

Rather, religious right

Why would First Data toss out 800,000 a day in processing?

Doesn't make sense unless some republican is behind it.

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to blame Bush

baddog · 09-22-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by kbut
Oh great, here come the conspiracy theories.............Surprised it took so long.

yeah, I know . . . .almost 3 complete pages . . . . . I wonder how many big corporations have CEO's that are Republican . . . must be tough to find

Rick Latona · 09-22-2004, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
yeah, I know . . . .almost 3 complete pages . . . . . I wonder how many big corporations have CEO's that are Republican . . . must be tough to find

Sometimes I think I'm the only democrat.

Ben.Z · 09-22-2004, 02:38 PM

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SuckOnThis · 09-22-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
yeah, I know . . . .almost 3 complete pages . . . . . I wonder how many big corporations have CEO's that are Republican . . . must be tough to find

Believe what you want but it is not a conspiracy theory. One of the first things the Bush admin done when it got in office was pass new bankruptcy laws that made it a lot more difficult to wipe off credit card debt with a bankruptcy. Visa/MC pushed hard for this to pass and when this happened it was rumored that Bush agreed to the new law with the understanding that Visa/MC would use its heavy hand to rid the net of porn. The first wave we saw was a few years ago when out of the blue MC insisted everyone using a 3rd party be approved and pay a $750 fee and Visa followed. This shit happens in a series of steps and this is just another one of them.

stocktrader23 · 09-22-2004, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Believe what you want but it is not a conspiracy theory. One of the first things the Bush admin done when it got in office was pass new bankruptcy laws that made it a lot more difficult to wipe off credit card debt with a bankruptcy. Visa/MC pushed hard for this to pass and when this happened it was rumored that Bush agreed to the new law with the understanding that Visa/MC would use its heavy hand to rid the net of porn. The first wave we saw was a few years ago when out of the blue MC insisted everyone using a 3rd party be approved and pay a $750 fee and Visa followed. This shit happens in a series of steps and this is just another one of them.

Bush would do no such thing!

baddog · 09-22-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Sometimes I think I'm the only democrat.

well, nothing personal, but when I was referring to big corps, I was thinking more along the lines of GM, CitiBank, MicroSoft . . . . I am sure there are a few Democrat CEO's in this biz. Hell, I am a Democrat, and a CEO, but I don't kid myself that I am in the same ballpark as the "big boys."

Rick Latona · 09-22-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
well, nothing personal, but when I was referring to big corps, I was thinking more along the lines of GM, CitiBank, MicroSoft . . . . I am sure there are a few Democrat CEO's in this biz. Hell, I am a Democrat, and a CEO, but I don't kid myself that I am in the same ballpark as the "big boys."

Point taken. If I was one of those guys I'd probably also tell people I was a Christian.

Calvinguy · 09-22-2004, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Backed up eveything yesterday ....

And changed my join page to my Euro processor.

I hope that Ibill stays, If not, a lot of people are going to be hurt, including hosting companys, graphic guys, affiliates and so on ..

Who is your Euro processor?

directfiesta · 09-22-2004, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Calvinguy
Who is your Euro processor?

Not the right time and place for that ... and it is a pretty good kept secret...

The funny part is that I charge 19.99 a month, either Euros or US dollars. So this Euro thing is better ( + 28 % ) ...

imageman · 09-22-2004, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
You see that's the main thing that worries me. The website is the front of your business and when you see ibill's site for several months to give javascript errors and when you try to signup and you are getting redirected to irrelevant pages it shows the whole mechanism doesn't function properly. Did their management crew moved fast enough and effectively to prevent the collapse or this time the delay will be fatal?

Most will say that it's an overall loss for the industry, but they'll really realise the meaning of their words through time.

Soul you are so fucking correct , for weeks and weeks i have been on at my rep at Ibill, trying to work out Java errors that they just could not or would not see. If simple issues like this take weeks to sort out how long will it take to fiind a new bank. I am so happy we moved our affiliates over to CCbill last year. Ibill has now been removed from all our sites as a 3rd processor .

.

Rick Latona · 09-22-2004, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
Not the right time and place for that ... and it is a pretty good kept secret...

The funny part is that I charge 19.99 a month, either Euros or US dollars. So this Euro thing is better ( + 28 % ) ...

Are you going to show U.S. customers a Euro price tag?

Salvar · 09-22-2004, 05:14 PM

We just have to wait ....

We can write here 1999999 new topics but time will learn

Fabien · 09-22-2004, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Nysus
As far as I know processing is already going through a new merchant for them.

Do you really think other banks won't want $800k per day in transactions?

Matt

What he says

KRL · 09-22-2004, 06:27 PM

Now its going to be a mass exodus which only serves to hasten the demise.

Radik · 09-22-2004, 08:22 PM

So are they just collecting cards now?, no real approval in hopes of pushing them through later?. Only ibill i have is dvd sales in the shopping cart, still a bummer .

TDF · 09-22-2004, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by Radik
So are they just collecting cards now?, no real approval in hopes of pushing them through later?. Only ibill i have is dvd sales in the shopping cart, still a bummer .

any other good processors for dvds and tangible items?

candidpublishinginc · 09-22-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Sometimes I think I'm the only democrat.

The republican party has traditionally been a pro-business party. It has taken a nose dive since it has been hijacked by the religous right.

I can't stand Bush and I refuse to vote for the guy. But Kerry pisses me off too As a high income earner, Kerry's "tax the rich" fiscal policy doesn't really appeal to me.

Although it will be quite a relief to see Ashhahahahaha gone. Also there would be a balance of power once Kerry is president since the Republicans will have control of the legislative branch. We can hope to see a nice balance of social liberalism and fiscal conservatism.

Anyway I'm still voting for Michael Badnarik of the Libertarian Party.

While I may lean to the right on fiscal matters (limited government, low taxes, pro business) I am as liberal on social issues (pro gay rights, pro choice, etc) as the next guy in this business.

directfiesta · 09-22-2004, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Are you going to show U.S. customers a Euro price tag?

Not going ... I am since a year. Once the credit card is out, the sale is done .. It is not 5 or $6 more than are going to scare a US customer away.

The only thing I had to make clear was that they did not need to find Euros to pay their cc statment, that it would show as " converted to US "...

webmaster x · 09-22-2004, 09:57 PM

They can try appealing the decision on the motion. Not very likely, but might buy some time??

baddog · 09-22-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
any other good processors for dvds and tangible items?

eCommerceGlobal.com

SleazyDream · 09-22-2004, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Chandiegirl
BIG statement, for sure.

Rick, where did your info come from?
Seems that there is alot of info being
tossed around. Are you certain the source
is reliable?

C

i think rick's a good enough judge of character not to worry there.

Mogulman · 09-22-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Give up Holly. The die hard Ibill supporters are completely oblivious to anything that resembles making sense.

sounds like iBill supporters and Bush supporters have something in common.

Mogulman · 09-22-2004, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by lawked

Doesn't make sense unless some republican is behind it.

Mogulman · 09-22-2004, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Dax
Where is ibill reply in all this ?

They're tucking tail right now trying to protect their asses (and their assets for that matter

)

Zprogramz · 09-22-2004, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
eCommerceGlobal.com

Netbilling set us up with a merchant acohahahaha in 1 day for our adult DVD sales.

Z

Steen2 · 09-22-2004, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by MarkTiarra
Obviously any huge processing bank has infrastructure in place but this isn't fucking plug and play. If it was I Bill would have already been processing with the new bank and woulnd;t have had to go to court to try to keep First Data going. Use your nogin buddy! You also have the issue of the existing rebilling database being moved. That's a ton of sensitive data to deal with.

Glad you're such a genious.

I vote you for CEO of iBill.

So easy to say "I would have done___"

Eservices2k3 · 09-23-2004, 12:08 AM

Doesn't that "quiet" guy process through IBill?

Ouch.

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