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Old 07-13-2001, 09:17 AM   #1
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Help with jennacash

I'm all ears, ok maybe I'm more boobs than ears,on how to make my webmaster program, www.jennacash.com, a success. I'm new at this and would love some advice, so where else would I go, but to GFY.
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Old 07-13-2001, 09:23 AM   #2
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Hmm,
the program is still available only for US webmasters, isn't it ?
it would help to allow webmasters from all over the world ... referral proggie would also work well ... or make some "nice" deals with TGP owners to promote it on a webmasters page (psst, I run a little TGP tpp )...

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Old 07-13-2001, 09:26 AM   #3
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grr
typo - tpp=too
why the hell is p so near to o .. who knows

heh
anyway
any of ya US guys have tried the proggie yet ?? how does it work ? .. u know ratios or something .. I know anything with Jenna Jameson name gotta sell itself but ...
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Old 07-13-2001, 09:36 AM   #4
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call up silvia. im sure she could give you some pointers...heh
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Old 07-13-2001, 10:14 AM   #5
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hey hit me up on icq I'll see if I can help you out

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Old 07-13-2001, 10:28 AM   #6
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you should turn over your affiliate program to us.
There is no one on the net with as much traffic knowledge as us and also willing to use it to benefit others (at a price)
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Old 07-13-2001, 10:40 AM   #7
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Jenna, don't do the mistake and not allow foreign webmasters to join. It's not about me since now I don't have time to promote another sponsor, perhaps in the future.BUT, there are so many webmasters outside states and pull HUGE traffic and many of them would like to join your program. You don't have a pay per click program to worry that much for cheaters. Allow webmasters from EVERY country and with some of them if you don't feel comfortable has a rule a delayed payment of 1-2 month like some other sponsors do. Honest webmasters won't have any problem. Look what Lensman does, he runs the largest pay per click affialite on planet (even compared with nonadults i think) and he allows every webmaster. Most of sponsors just copy/paste the Terms Of Service, don't do the same, be unique ;-)

Also, in order to keep subscribers for many months have a live chat once in a week with them (if you don't already have it).
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Old 07-13-2001, 10:44 AM   #8
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up to now 3 webmasters have asked me when you're gonna allow foreigns also. Don't dissapoint them ;-)
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Old 07-13-2001, 11:11 AM   #9
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I have too agree with everyone else- I would love to promote your ass off but theres no support for the UK.

Now other things i could do with your ass........


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Old 07-13-2001, 11:21 AM   #10
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don't forget them wimmin surfers. surely a gal like you knows how to get the chicks to whip out the cc's! mayybe an "ask jenna" page.



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Old 07-13-2001, 11:45 AM   #11
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Jenna, Like 12clicks said, you need the proper exposure and handeling.. But with Any sponsor program, you need traffic, and well
if you don't already know this I have a few hits......But you need to spend money to make money... Just talk to Lensman, or 12clicks, ...then when you want to get serious with traffic for the newly promoted site we can talk. (edited for 12clicks)

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Old 07-13-2001, 12:22 PM   #12
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Just talk to Lensman, or 12clicks...then when you want to get serious
we can talk.

Nice Lighting! you think she's going to pick our brains and then have you waltz in and lowball us?
NEVER. hahahahaha
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Old 07-13-2001, 12:22 PM   #13
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Yeah but Jenna watch out for that Lightning guy. I have been hearing a bunch of really strange rumors about him....

The worst one is that he has just tons and tons and tons of traffic.

Just thought I would warn you.
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Old 07-13-2001, 01:11 PM   #14
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If you want some advice my friend Royce has put together several official pornstar sites,
http://www.silviasaintonline.com/
"tiffanymynx, mila, adrianasage, coral sands, anna malle, gina lynn, etc etc."

ICQ or email me if you want his phone #.

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Old 07-13-2001, 01:14 PM   #15
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Nice Lighting! you think she's going to pick our brains and then have you waltz in and lowball us?
NEVER. hahahahaha
Ron I thought we are buds now.. I dont do that kind of shit..Damm man... You misunderstood my meaning.. I was telling Jenna to talk to you about marketting her site properly, and then when thats all set up, Thats when I come into the scene..with my traffic...

Is the picture a bot clearer now... I dont run programs I sell traffic...You should really know me better by now.. I think you broke my heart again...



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Old 07-13-2001, 01:25 PM   #16
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I believe that jennacash already is available for all. There was a thread by Meni, he said that webmasters from outside USA should fill out the for with "fake" address details, and to email him with their real address, so he could change their details manually...
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Old 07-13-2001, 01:25 PM   #17
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You guys should have stuck with Brad Shaw instead of fucking with him then you would have a nice program. Plus no one is going to promote a site that cost $30 to join and get $30 for that signup, you need a damn trial.
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Old 07-13-2001, 01:28 PM   #18
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Her DNS points to likewhoa's servers -- is that who's funding her operation...? They seemed to have enough money to pay for that sweet Eutopia party... Somebody's designing Jenna's site besides Jenna... I really doubt Jenna knows how to do mouseover rollover's in javscript.

I've been out of this shit for too long because I think it's wierd that 2 years ago, I never saw anyone use sexcounter... (how long has it been up?) I've never seen anyone push whoacash either... How are they making all this money now? In this biz -- whoever is first to market means a lot -- unless you have vaults of venture cash... Has anyone here used Whoacash or converted them? Until this last convention I had never heard of Whoacash. Maybe I've been been out of things for too long -- but the only counters I ever saw anyone use back a couple of years ago were WSS, Sextracker, XXXCounter, and that crappy Sexhound counter ;) Anyway enough ranting -- I'm just curious how these companies start up out of nowhere and suddenly have tons of money.

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lightning, if she takes my advice, she'll know better than to buy traffic from you.

hahahahahahahaha
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Brad Shaw is a rude asshole and a liar and a thief. I don't care how many boats he has -- they will all sink someday.



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Old 07-13-2001, 01:39 PM   #21
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I want to sample Lightning's traffic ;) I'll run my productivity meter on it hehehe...

Lightning I heard from CD that you bombed one of his pages and his AP stats went through the roof! Can I play too? eheheh

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lightning, if she takes my advice, she'll know better than to buy traffic from you.

hahahahahahahaha
LOLLOLLOL......I wouldnt buy my traffic either..it converts to well, I wouldnt know how to act with a 1 in 500 converting ratio and millions of hits a day.. that might make to much money, then I would have to keep driving back and fourth to the bank all the time, and I hate driving



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i think bigdog is Lensman... eheheh
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What's all this talk about Brad Shaw? Anyone care to enlighten me? What happened?

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good will to help someone is very rare these days and for sure both of L$ghtn$ing and $2 Cl$cks you don't know what it means. You look only how to earn profit from others, at least that's what I see with JJ. You could share some tips like the rest people on the board, but nooo you act like trading her. You can setup a Pay Per Tip program :-0 Anyway, i have some work to finish....
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hey Lightning I will drive back and forth to the bank each day for you. No problem just a small 10% travel and expense fee ;D should work out well.
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BigDog, I promote a certain site that costs $31.90 to join and I get $15 for that signup... but it converts like fucken crazy.

You need hundreds-of-thousands of dollars in capital to be paying per signup on the trial, and many new paysite owners just don't have that --- that is where shaving, cheating and bounced checks start to occur...

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good will to help someone is very rare these days and for sure both of L$ghtn$ing and $2 Cl$cks you don't know what it means. You look only how to earn profit from others, at least that's what I see with JJ. You could share some tips like the rest people on the board, but nooo you act like trading her. You can setup a Pay Per Tip program :-0 Anyway, i have some work to finish....
Dude, don't even go there with me or 12clicks!!
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Yeah I think if your content is really excellent you don't need a trial... IMHO anyway.

BTW Soul_Rebel I think you are wrong about Lightning -- I don't know him that well but I had dinner with him and met him at Internext and I think he's a good guy. He's a Boneprone Family member now ;) Seriously though if you are looking for advice -- just ask around -- I may or may not be able to help you, but send me an email or you can call me at home -- I will try to find someone that knows the answers ;)

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Old 07-13-2001, 02:11 PM   #30
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If lightning truly is free, send me some free traffic damn it!
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Old 07-13-2001, 02:12 PM   #31
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A 3 day trial $4.95 and recurring for webmasters program. Don't know who does your cc, but I know alot of webmasters like ccbill, I like the check's every week and they have counters, although
there counters do not tell you were the surfer came from, but at least they have counters.
The counters are a big help to me.

If you want traffic sign up partners and you'll get the traffic.

The chat thing sounds good also, might take alot of your time or just hire someone and let them be JJ for 8 hours.

I know I'll sign up for your program if it's recurring and has third party accounting.

Forgot,,,,I'd be very careful buying traffic.
Am sure there are alot of honest people selling traffic, but like I said I'd be very careful.


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L$ghtn$ng prove that you help so many webmasters by pretending Jenna in a chat room every Friday :-0
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I think Soul_Rebel is gay.
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Jenna

Lightning has Some Very Good Points.

Here are mine. The sites Should catch the surfers Eye. Offer either a Click or Partenrship and allow webmasters to make money of of others this will get lots of People to Join and Mianly you need Traffic and dedication

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What do you mean Oscer... give them the exit console, or a webmaster referral program?
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Jenna, your site looks good; it has a nice layout and design and should be converting on average 1:250 (with the highest conversion of no more than 1:500). If you are not converting at least this well, then here are some things you should look into:

1. Your processor (1. make sure they are not 'scrubbing' needlessly and are trusted among fellow webmasters)

2. Your affiliate scripts...there were some complaints on one of the 'pissing-match' boards so I don't know how valid the issues are; but it's worth looking into.

3. That the people marketing your affiliate program know what they are doing, are well respected in the business and are delivering what they promised in both support and marketing abilities.

FYI guys?if you check out ClubJenna, you?ll see that she already does a ?weekly live chat? with members.

And I agree that you should offer the trial membership (3 days for $4.95) on affiliate accounts as well. Although paying out $30 a sign-up on trials is costly, you might want to consider doing it when you are ready for some serious affiliate traffic?

I hope this is helpful. I?ve been running adult sites for 6 years and have been around the block a few times?feel free to contact me anytime if you have any questions or if I can be of any assistance.

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I think soul rebel missed the point.

12clicks made her the best offer on this board.

Getting someone to run traffic and affiliates that knows whats going on, has the contacts to actually get traffic and realizes who's cheating when the traffic comes in is invaluable.

Like them or not, Standard's always done a hell of a job at every bit of the above.
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I went to your page and could not find a link to jennacash.com or your webmasters program

Maybe I just missed it or could be my 57 year old eyes.

So how are webmasters other than the ones on this board and other boards going to find you.


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if that's the case I'll recover, I even provide free advertising:
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well, Jenna try some times and it works ;-)
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Jenna, its just too cool and funny to pass up.. Call in a voice mail to the site of the boneprone family anlong with many other paysite owners and GFY webmasters! Its all for fun but
Ya get a free link to your site, and keep in mind that nothing but webmasters will be going there..
The true boneprone family and the people I trade with probably have over 50% of the porn traffic on the web flowing through thier sites one time or another, so its somthing to keep in mind.. Boneprone is the real deal.

Join the boneprone family, and be boneprone 4-life.
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Like Pete says on the site he made:
WARNING! The Boneprone-4-Life Webmaster Family clicks billions of surfers/day!
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Getting someone to run traffic and affiliates that knows whats going on, has the contacts to actually get traffic and realizes who's cheating when the traffic comes in is invaluable.
You can't cheat a partnership program with traffic.

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Is there any connection between http://www.standardinternet.com/ and http://www.shawinternet.com/

I get the two confused because the names are so similar.

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Old 07-13-2001, 07:32 PM   #45
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I disagree that a program cannot be successful unless it's run by an established player. ClubJenna is very much on the right track and is run by some very sharp dedicated people. And let me make this clear, I don't want to run their program. They don't need it, and we've got enough brewing already.

Fly, Standard Internet Corp (SIC) and Shaw Internet Corp (SIC) are often confused because they're run exactly the same.

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Jenna,
I would change your processor to someone established in the adult arena,either CCBill(first choice) or IBill. I ran your banner for a couple days and had no confidence in the stats or processor....

No need for a trial, just sell YOURSELF...have someone redesign your site and every place it says "Jenna" replace it with "me,my,or I"...i.e. Chat with Jenna Live/Chat with ME live. It's all about making that horny bastard feel like you're talking to him and he's "special to you", instead of someone talking about what Jenna will do to/for you.
I would also get rid of the exit consoles loaded with leeches and again "SELL Yourself", it's your name, your site, you shouldn't have to rely on getting a remote sale or two. Set that console up to sell some "personally autographed" memorabilia(signed vagina molds/dildos/vidclips/panties or just a glossy 8x10(Limited GFY Numbered of Course)
Talk to Lensman about marketing, he does well, especially with the hard to please TGP crowd. His new site Drunkslut is turning a respectable 1 in 350 on my site with just a simple banner and a small text link...If you can't do better than that...fire the whole damn group and start over. Remember, even big fish get eaten when swimming with the sharks.

Snake
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Old 07-13-2001, 09:11 PM   #47
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lensman:

Fly, Standard Internet Corp (SIC) and Shaw Internet Corp (SIC) are often confused because they're run exactly the same.

That is slanderous!!! We're not busy stuffing our faces with lobster! We're busy making about 40 different online businesses
money in an ever toughening market.

I think we even sent lensman thousands of signups to firstname for free just because he's a friend of mine.

Kimmy, as always, thanks for the kind words.

As far as the guy who said you can't cheat partnerships goes, I'm sure kimmy or I can tell you at least 10 ways to cheat them.

what the guys who know know, is much different that what the guys who think they know know.
(too many know knows)
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Old 07-13-2001, 09:28 PM   #48
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Ummm...who's Jenna Jameson? Is it someone I should know?
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Old 07-13-2001, 10:00 PM   #49
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Sup Jenna,

If you are looking for advice/help or
promotion for your money program I would
start with the people you can know and
trust or others that know larger people.

I would recommend you check seek out
YnotBob at http://www.ynotmasters.com
Bob will either be able to help you
out in some way, or point you in the
correct direction.

With a webmaster program the best thing
to do is spend the green, you don't have
to go into partnership with other companies
to do the job. Advertise your program and
many webmasters will know you by your
name and advertise you.

ynotmasters.com
netsurprise.com
netpond.com
weboverdrive.com
theadultwebmaster.com

and even gofuckyourself.com are a few of
100's of productive places you can
advertise your program on to pick up
webmasters.

I am one of the partners that run
LargeCash.com and we advertise on most
of the above urls, ynotbob and the crew
from theadultwebmaster and adultnetsurprise
have helped us many times with questions.

If you want some quick pointers on your
site then I will give ya some.

Wyldesites built your site, ask him for
some help btw.

- credit card processor ibill.com or ccbill.com -- just ask to speak to someone
with a brain don't deal with the lower guys.

- put your webmaster link on the main page
of clubjenna.com

- put your new webmaster page up that
is done being built

- contact a few of the larger webmasters
and just ask questions, most will tell you
what you need to do.

- network with the other paysite webmasters.
Trade joins, program links, ect.

- if your going to be the webmaster of
the site, the start being aggressive in the
industry and start networking now.

If you have any more questions contact me
at [email protected] I will gladly point
you in the right direction.

TheDoc http://www.largecash.com
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Old 07-13-2001, 10:18 PM   #50
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Doc,

Welcome to the board. Glad to see you could join us

GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!
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