A Surfer's Experience of Epic Cash

[Forkbeard]

Hey everybody, I thought you would be interested to read this excerpt from an angry letter I got from a surfer at one of my sites who followed one of my links to Epic Cash's Brutal Spankings website:

No matter what usename you choose it will boot you back to choose again at least twice and then when you do change your username it puts back the add on 40 dollar porn site membership you said no to up front but you don't catch that.... Then just try and cancel after you discover the spanking videos are poor quality whimpifications and rip offs... I have the original e-mail reciepts (the one for the porn site I didn't intend to join, and the later one for brutal spankings... NONE of the order numbers or ID's in either will work in the cancel membership form. I just keep getting "your membership details can't be found... AND there is no way to contact the owners posted on the site...

I'm not too concerned about the cross sells -- although that's an inventive way of getting several bites at the apple -- but the inability to cancel sounds pretty 1998. All I can figure is, maybe they tried to cancel so fast their info wasn't in the member database yet?

I did try to help this surfer by putting them in touch with Epic Cash (webmaster support email, since I was asking for help) but the response was to tell the surfer to visit billingsupport.net -- which apparently is where the cancel page that doesn't work resides. So not a very helpful response, although it was lightning fast and very friendly. Props to Corey for the prompt and courteous effort.

Not trying to stir up trouble or drama. I just thought some here would be interested in how the customers feel.

[klik]

good to know..

[dropped9]

dramaaaaaaaaaaaa

[BradM]

PEBKAC
Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair.

Sounds like an internet challenged surfer. But they do have the ability to compose a sentance which leads me to believe this person is lying.

[Forkbeard]

Originally posted by Forkbeard
Not trying to stir up trouble or drama. I just thought some here would be interested in how the customers feel.

[p1mpdogg]

Originally posted by Forkbeard
Hey everybody, I thought you would be interested to read this excerpt from an angry letter I got from a surfer at one of my sites who followed one of my links to Epic Cash's Brutal Spankings website:


I'm not too concerned about the cross sells -- although that's an inventive way of getting several bites at the apple -- but the inability to cancel sounds pretty 1998. All I can figure is, maybe they tried to cancel so fast their info wasn't in the member database yet?

I did try to help this surfer by putting them in touch with Epic Cash (webmaster support email, since I was asking for help) but the response was to tell the surfer to visit billingsupport.net -- which apparently is where the cancel page that doesn't work resides. So not a very helpful response, although it was lightning fast and very friendly. Props to Corey for the prompt and courteous effort.

Not trying to stir up trouble or drama. I just thought some here would be interested in how the customers feel.

you are full of shit.. and he is an idiot. we use paycom along with 100 of other sites and programs. we do nothing tricky to the customer. what was the point of this? goto any program that processes with paycom that offers cross sales. its the same fukin thing moron.

[exposed]

Originally posted by BradM
PEBKAC
Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair.

Sounds like an internet challenged surfer. But they do have the ability to compose a sentance which leads me to believe this person is lying.

Haahaha

[media]

We're checking into this.. Thanks for bringing it to our attention...

[Forkbeard]

Well, that was a nice professional response.

-- "a full of shit moron"

[BradM]

Originally posted by Forkbeard
Well, that was a nice professional response.

-- "a full of shit moron"

Please ignore pimpdogg. He is not an official Epiccash Spokesperson.

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by Forkbeard
Well, that was a nice professional response.

-- "a full of shit moron"

he doesn't beat around the bush

[Forkbeard]

Originally posted by media
We're checking into this.. Thanks for bringing it to our attention...

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[Corona]

Originally posted by Forkbeard
Well, that was a nice professional response.

-- "a full of shit moron"

You had to know that was going to happen

[Forkbeard]

Originally posted by Corona
You had to know that was going to happen

Well, let's just say I'm not suprised.

[Corona]

If it makes you feel any better, he just got banned again.

[Forkbeard]

[TurboTrucker]

LOL p0mpdog is anything but professional.

Originally posted by Forkbeard
Well, that was a nice professional response.

-- "a full of shit moron"

[Phil]

Originally posted by media
We're checking into this.. Thanks for bringing it to our attention...

Media, I have talked to you on ICQ before and you are nothing but an A+ plus guy.. what I don?t get is pipmdog and his urge to be an asshole?

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by CAMOKAT
Media, I have talked to you on ICQ before and you are nothing but an A+ plus guy.. what I don?t get is pipmdog and his urge to be an asshole?

He's under the impression it's the way to sell his company. Seems in the real world he's a nice guy, but on the Internet, the place he earns his living, he feels playing the fool makes him money.

Can you imagine the level of people it impresses?

[Dagwolf]

Originally posted by CAMOKAT
Media, I have talked to you on ICQ before and you are nothing but an A+ plus guy.. what I don?t get is pipmdog and his urge to be an asshole?

Haven't you heard? It's in his job description!

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by media
We're checking into this.. Thanks for bringing it to our attention...

lol ... pimpdog already ruined it for you

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by BradM
Please ignore pimpdogg. He is not an official Epiccash Spokesperson.

What is he then ?

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by charly
He's under the impression it's the way to sell his company. Seems in the real world he's a nice guy, but on the Internet, the place he earns his living, he feels playing the fool makes him money.

Can you imagine the level of people it impresses?

Dosen't work for me ... but he still gets a lot of attention

[media]

Originally posted by CAMOKAT
Media, I have talked to you on ICQ before and you are nothing but an A+ plus guy.. what I don?t get is pipmdog and his urge to be an asshole?

Lol.. Pimpdog is anything but an asshole in real life.. If you met him you'd be like "wtf was that really him??" You know this is all about drama and sig impressions and such.. I give you my word on that...

Alot of people just feel offended and cant take a joke when the "Character" says something that is way off the wall or out in left field somewhere..

I'm prolly more of an asshole in real life when I am drunk.. some people can prolly tell you stories.. but I won't go into that... Anyways.. I just thought you should know.. I was friends with PD before I came to work with him... So I am not just kissing his ass or anything.. Even I used to argue with him when I didnt understand the drama concept. But then I met him and it was like "Oh I get it now!!".....

Anyways.. I could go on, and on.. I've said this a million times on this board it seems like, it's all just fucking bullshit drama..

This error is being looked into.. Its something that will be addressed with our programmer and myself, we like to retain members just like anyone else.. I've been told by alot of people our members areas are very nice.. So I gotta believe that...

[Phil]

Originally posted by charly
He's under the impression it's the way to sell his company. Seems in the real world he's a nice guy, but on the Internet, the place he earns his living, he feels playing the fool makes him money.

Can you imagine the level of people it impresses?

I hope it?s just his schtik like Juicy or Izzy? Guy has a great program but acts like a complete jackass. And based on pictures that I saw there isn?t much base for that. My 19 year old brother would whoop his ass silly.

[BradM]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
What is he then ?

An owner.

[detoxed]

pimpdogg is my idol

[IKE]

This is total BS. I know PimpDog and he is even more of an asshole in real life then on this board. And I am sticking to this story until I get a carepackage.........

[baddog]

Originally posted by BradM
Please ignore pimpdogg. He is not an official Epiccash Spokesperson.

oh really? he sure does a good job of playing one on the boards

[Phil]

Originally posted by media
Lol.. Pimpdog is anything but an asshole in real life.. If you met him you'd be like "wtf was that really him??" You know this is all about drama and sig impressions and such.. I give you my word on that...

Alot of people just feel offended and cant take a joke when the "Character" says something that is way off the wall or out in left field somewhere..

I'm prolly more of an asshole in real life when I am drunk.. some people can prolly tell you stories.. but I won't go into that... Anyways.. I just thought you should know.. I was friends with PD before I came to work with him... So I am not just kissing his ass or anything.. Even I used to argue with him when I didnt understand the drama concept. But then I met him and it was like "Oh I get it now!!".....

Anyways.. I could go on, and on.. I've said this a million times on this board it seems like, it's all just fucking bullshit drama..

This error is being looked into.. Its something that will be addressed with our programmer and myself, we like to retain members just like anyone else.. I've been told by alot of people our members areas are very nice.. So I gotta believe that...

No, I understand the whole character thing and I hope PimpDog does not exist for his own sake, but his verbal diarrhea is flat out wrong. I won?t change my mind about you program case you do send checks on time, but it does leave a sour taste. I just don?t see a benefit of being an asshole the way he does it.

[media]

Originally posted by charly
He's under the impression it's the way to sell his company. Seems in the real world he's a nice guy, but on the Internet, the place he earns his living, he feels playing the fool makes him money.

Can you imagine the level of people it impresses?

You have such a hard on for us since we signed with acacia, you have no fucking clue about us.. You should talk to Farrell about me idiot.. Ask him about what I told him in florida..

Until you get a clue you should fuck off... You have no idea where our heart really is with issues, you just like to blather and say stupid shit that makes you look like you know what your talking about..

[media]

Originally posted by IKE
This is total BS. I know PimpDog and he is even more of an asshole in real life then on this board. And I am sticking to this story until I get a carepackage.........

I'm gonna have to hop in a box naked and get shipped to your house eh??

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by IKE
This is total BS. I know PimpDog and he is even more of an asshole in real life then on this board. And I am sticking to this story until I get a carepackage.........

boring ... trying to create drama budy ? not working at all here

[DarkJedi]

À Õ Ó Å Ò Ü !!!

[WarChild]

I had surfer complaints too. Suited me just fine to drop Epic Cash.

Pimp, of course, said I was lying. I wonder if the Ebony site in question has any ebony content that isn't streaming yet? Who knows.

Won't do business with Epic now at all. Don't care if they can make me money or not.

I don't understand this different on the internet than in real life. That's bullshit. This board is full of real people. I think an argument could easily be made that Trey lacks the confidence to act the same in person, not because it's a fake personality, but rather because he finds courage in the monitor.

I can think of plenty of programs with a presence on this board that don't need to act like jackasses to get attention. I'd be willing to bet that he manages to generate as much disinterest in his company as he does interest.

[Phil]

Originally posted by DarkJedi
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[Phil]

Originally posted by WarChild
I had surfer complaints too. Suited me just fine to drop Epic Cash.

Pimp, of course, said I was lying. I wonder if the Ebony site in question has any ebony content that isn't streaming yet? Who knows.

Won't do business with Epic now at all. Don't care if they can make me money or not.

I don't understand this different on the internet than in real life. That's bullshit. This board is full of real people. I think an argument could easily be made that Trey lacks the confidence to act the same in person, not because it's a fake personality, but rather because he finds courage in the monitor.

I can think of plenty of programs with a presence on this board that don't need to act like jackasses to get attention. I'd be willing to bet that he manages to generate as much disinterest in his company as he does interest.

Member zone is far from being the best but sites do sell.
Even got some wallmart cards from them

[WarChild]

Originally posted by CAMOKAT
Member zone is far from being the best but sites do sell.
Even got some wallmart cards from them

Lots of programs are larger and sell as well if not better than Epic Cash. The added bonus is you get the satisfaction of knowing that Trey's not making a dime off any of your sales.

[Phil]

Originally posted by WarChild
Lots of programs are larger and sell as well if not better than Epic Cash. The added bonus is you get the satisfaction of knowing that Trey's not making a dime off any of your sales.

which one? spam me

[WarChild]

Originally posted by CAMOKAT
which one? spam me

Reality Cash
Nasty Dollars
Top Bucks
Traffic Cash Gold

Run any one of the Epic Lesbian sites head to head vs. Girls Hunting Girls from Reality Cash. See for yourself.

[media]

Originally posted by WarChild
Lots of programs are larger and sell as well if not better than Epic Cash. The added bonus is you get the satisfaction of knowing that Trey's not making a dime off any of your sales.

Lol well it's really funny that you mention that, cuz most of those programs send your exit traffic over to us... More and more sponsors send to us every day...

[Phil]

Originally posted by WarChild
Reality Cash
Nasty Dollars
Top Bucks
Traffic Cash Gold

Run any one of the Epic Lesbian sites head to head vs. Girls Hunting Girls from Reality Cash. See for yourself.

bookmarked

[Serge Litehead]

Originally posted by CAMOKAT
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[WarChild]

Originally posted by media
Lol well it's really funny that you mention that, cuz most of those programs send your exit traffic over to us... More and more sponsors send to us every day...

Can you show me one where Epic is first in the chain?

Nasty Dollars not sending to Epic on exit consoles.
Reality Cash is certainly not sending high up in the chain.

Regardless of if they're sending you exits or not, it does nothing to negate my claim.

[baddog]

Originally posted by media
Lol well it's really funny that you mention that, cuz most of those programs send your exit traffic over to us... More and more sponsors send to us every day...

Not that it matters, but Pattyecake wanted me to send my exits to you, and I considered it until Trey decided he had to open his mouth again . . .and I was not going to risk losing any affiliates because he alienated them.

Yeah, I know, I am an idiot, I care about what my affiliates think

[myneid]

Wow, there are many deluded people in here. Reguarding liking pimpdog and not sending him traffic if you dont like him: this is rediculous. many people dont like bill gates but they still buy his products. it is the same situation. the fact of the matter is that epic cash makes a lot of people a lot of money.

Second getting on topic of this thread, a Surfer complaint. OK, now i have been in this industry for a long time and i have seen millions of surfer complaints and this is a very common one. It doesnt matter what you have on your site, it doesnt matter about anything, it matters that the surfer is usually just somebody that jerked off and wants their money back when they sober up.

The surfer complaint is not to be taken up with the affiliate, but with the actual company. And all billing issues should be sent to the processor that billed their card. It is very plain, there is a million and one ways to email and call if something doesnt work.

The fact that you felt that a surfer complaint like this shoudl be brought on the boards to slam Epic Cash shows me that you either dont have your own paysites or you havnt been in the industry that long as this will be a common theme.
It is sad that you felt the need to use and email from somebody that you dont know to defemate somebody on the board without checking into the issue yourself.

If any Epic Cash affiliate wishes to check out any of the members section, i know that trey, cory or media is happy to help you get a temporarry password to check that out.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Now i have not demo'd epiccash signup lately , but this is industry standard.

Im speaking specifically about the re-checking the cross-sale after the user submits a username or password that is not long enough/too long.

Yahoo and google both use the same sort of deceptive marketing.

Yahoo likes to put the purchase/signup button at the very top and hide the crosssale/toolbar install at the bottom. Imagine how shitty it would look if they * epiccash hid crosssales this way..

Im not saying you have to like it, im just saying this is the same with most sponsors..

[media]

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Im not saying you have to like it, im just saying this is the same with most sponsors..

Smokey.. you've had some good posts lately I gotta admit that...

[WarChild]

Originally posted by myneid
Wow, there are many deluded people in here. Reguarding liking pimpdog and not sending him traffic if you dont like him: this is rediculous. many people dont like bill gates but they still buy his products. it is the same situation.

When's the last time you saw Bill Gates tossing around insults and generally acting like a fucking dick? According to Trey's sense of business, Bill should be. He'd be doing even better.

It's a matter of principal. There are a LOT of great Adult programs to select from. There's no Niche, that I can see, that Epic Cash has exclusively the best site(s) in.

I knew about Epic Cash before I saw Trey acting like a child around here. I decided not to use them after. I'm sure there's lots of people like me. Trey will claim it makes no difference. I'll tell you that the stats on my primary sponsor would land me squarely in Trey's top 10. Based on his own posting of top 100 Epic Affiliates. Huge loss to him? Probably not. Are there others like me? Probably.

My point is, you DO catch more flies with honey than with Vinegar.

[media]

Originally posted by baddog
Not that it matters, but Pattyecake wanted me to send my exits to you, and I considered it until Trey decided he had to open his mouth again . . .and I was not going to risk losing any affiliates because he alienated them.

Yeah, I know, I am an idiot, I care about what my affiliates think

Baddog, I've talked to you a little before (phoenix maybe?) I didnt say you were an idiot.. PD might have.. but thats just him pushing your buttons..

I know lots of people who use us and talk with myself of Cory and get nothing but good support..

They don't have to deal with pimpdog, and thats really the way he prefers it.. he is the owner, he don't have to be nice to anyone...