psyko514

100 stupid surfers and senile dirty old men posing as content providers to fool around with chicks he otherwise wouldn't have a chance with.

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Paul Markham

But would you be making more money if Trey acted less of an idiot?

It's because I never had a problem with girls that I am such a good pornographer, but I guess you don't understand that.

Look at all the good pornographers and fashion photographers in the world and ask yourself are they a good with the women because they are good with a camera or good with a camera because they are good with women?

I've been a published pornographer since I was 27, so I guess I was a dirty old man then.

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psyko514

I'm pretty confident you don't even know or understand what the whole Acacia hullabaloo is all about.

Regardless of the fact that you really have no clue what you're talking about, you made a blatantly clear that you dislike Epic Cash for signing with Acacia. Your dislike is apparently so strong that you feel the need to participate in virtually every Epic Cash related thread you see and libel, insult and trash our company.

Strangely enough, you don't do the same when Lensman posts, or someone from Topbucks, Pornkings, CECash, etc posts. I wonder why that is?

So here's my challenge to you:
Drop your one-man crusade again Epic Cash. It won't result in anything. We're not going to unsign with Acacia and your constant slandering won't change anything.

If you don't drop the one-man crusade, then start libeling every company that signed with Acacia and attack their reps as well. I expect you to trash Adult.com everytime Lensman posts.

One last thing to add, and I may be completely off-base here, but as Trey has said many times, he's not the full owner of EC. So perhaps the decision wasn't entirely his to make?

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psyko514

Nope. I work for a base salary plus commission. Trey's board persona helped me recruit over 20 webmasters in my downline before I even started working for Epic Cash.

So when I started working for EC, I already had a 20+ webmaster head start to maximize the commissions I make.

In fact, my job itself is partly due to Trey "acting like an idiot". It's very likely that if Trey's board persona didn't exist, I wouldn't have a job at all with EC.

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baddog

Okay, I am going to stop reading your post right here, and I hate you for making me look like I am in any way supporting PD or EC, but saying EC was not strong enough to resist Acacia is laughable.

Are you saying that FlyntDigital/Hustler is not strong enough to resist Acacia?

Give me a break

boobmaster

Epic Cash = screws surfers
Epic Cash = shaves webmaster payouts
Epic Cash = Sells out webmasters by supporting Acacia

psyko514

anyways, i'm off to bed now.

charly, for the record, i respect you as a business man and a content provider. i've purchased your content in the past and probably will do it again in the future.

you're entitled to your opinions towards epic cash, but i think we get the point. i don't think it's necessary for you to mention it every chance you get.

if you, and anyone else in this thread, are interested in looking past GFY drama, being the grown, mature businessmen that we all are and doing some real business together, feel free to contact me at anytime. i won't bite.

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psyko514

got proof?

is this your correct info:

Charles, Re
305 W. 39th Street, #113
Austin, TX 78751
(512)302-0793

if it is, do you mind if you get sued for libel? cause i'm confident you can't back up your statements.

if the info is incorrect, do you mind providing myself and your registrar with the correct info? and do you mind if i report the false info to your registrar to encourage you to do so?

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I do not trash Epic Cash, in fact I do not even know much about the program.

I trash Trey and his stand on why he signed with Acacia and the other side I learned from Media during out ICQ chat. He said EC could not afford to fight Acacia. Whether those who did or did not sign get trashed for doing so is up to me, but for the record I did criticise Hustler and CE Cash for doing so and coming up with a lot of BULLSHIT reasons for signing up. Just like Trey did.

You will never know what harm or good Trey's persona does to the company, until you shut him up or curb him long enough to gauge the response.

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boobmaster

Actually, I've moved since then. Thanks for reminding me to change the info.

So, you're gonna sue me for libel, eh? Which part of my statement is false? Are you denying you pay Acacia? Just do a search on GFY for epic cash shaves for all the evidence you need for point 2.

Paul Markham

No I'm saying that is what Media told me during an ICQ chat. So maybe they were big enough to resist and were just lying to me?

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Paul Markham

I think by reading all this thread most people can make up their own minds on whether Treys persona harms or helps EC.

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Forkbeard

Since this is my thread, I get to keep the facts straight, even though I'm not interested in the high school personality drama.
Not true. It was adressed -- speedily and professionally -- but it was not resolved. The surfer's problem had not been fixed when I posted -- nor has it been fixed yet that I know of.
I'm not greatly impressed from a customer service perspective. The customer was defeated by Epoch when she tried to cancel; I asked webmaster support to help the customer cancel, and the response was a very polite refusal. Problem not solved.

In 1996, Dell support would tell you "That's a windows problem" and hang up. The industry matured; now they stay on the line and help you fix it, even if they have to call Microsoft themselves. Believe it or not, I posted this thread as an example to all of us to show that we've got a lot of industry maturing yet to do.

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boobmaster

That is the last thing that bothers me about Epiccash. I'm sure he's a cool dude who just likes to play the asshole, which is fine for THIS board.

My problems with Epiccash have more to do with other issues.

(1) Too many shaving rumors for my tastes. (I am not making the accusations, psyko514, so save your fucking lawsuit threats).

(2) They sold out to Acacia, which in and of itself eliminates me as potential affiliate (I ONLY support sponsors who stand with the rest of us during times of trouble).

(3) To me, Epiccash seems like a bunch of kids trying to get their bling and who are primarily looking to have a good time rather than building a solid business. Their CS has been suspect (again, from the reports I have heard). They remind me of how Apple Computer was run before the company was almost completely destroyed and miraculously rose from the dead.

I concede that I may be wrong about some of this, but it is my current opinion. In the context of all these concerns, I suppose trey's GFY persona doesn't help.

psyko514

hey kiddo...

you straight out said "Epic Cash = shaves webmaster payouts".

don't try and backtrack later on and say you're only going by rumours. you straight out made the claim. therefore, the onus is on you to provide solid proof to back those claims, or else it's libel.

do yourself a favour. head on over to www.clicktruth.com

ClickTruth is a 3rd party stats auditing system. They monitor our program to watch for shaving. We voluntarily pay monthly for them to do that. Rest assured that if we really were shaving, like you claim we are, it would be publicly known.

so as i said, since you're so confident we shave and that there is more proof than simply hearsay and rumours, i urge you to find it ASAP and post it here.

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Manowar

They are protected by ClickTruth, they can't. Try doing research before blurting out stuff

XxXotic

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baddog

once again your reading comprehension has let you down . . . I will admit I was surprised to learn that English is your native tongue.

My point is lost on you.

Rictor

MWAH HAHAHAHA! If TexasDreams looked like that, I'd let him have sex with my wife and video tape it. Unfortunately, he looks like a dude.

tranza

This doesn't surprise me.... The way p1mpdogg behaves shows a lot about their program....

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railz

I'm no EC Fan (Sorry Psy bud, but it's just the way I feel) but you have got balls made of steel saying this on a public board.

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