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Old 09-05-2004, 08:21 AM   #1
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Whats a teen girl worth?

We're considering putting up an ad seeking teen girls who wants to make $xxxx in a month only working 2-3 hours a day..

In that month we will shoot 100-200 pic series and around 50 videos of each 10 minutes or so..

What would you pay a girl for that?

This is isn't Eastern Europe, so I guess the price would be around the same as you pay the US girls
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Old 09-05-2004, 08:23 AM   #2
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wont that depend on the girl?
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Old 09-05-2004, 08:26 AM   #3
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We're considering putting up an ad seeking teen girls who wants to make $xxxx in a month only working 2-3 hours a day..

In that month we will shoot 100-200 pic series and around 50 videos of each 10 minutes or so..

What would you pay a girl for that?

This is isn't Eastern Europe, so I guess the price would be around the same as you pay the US girls
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The way to advertise is to say "$200 - $1500 cash paid"

Most people behave like crack addicts. They only really care about what they can get right now.

Make sure to put "attractive females only" and that will keep most of the guys and some of the ugly girls from wasting your time.
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Looks like that was posting on the wrong thread.
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wont that depend on the girl?
Ofcourse, but let's say all of the girls who responds to our ad are girls like Tawnee Stone

I'm thinking $10k for the month ?
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Ofcourse, but let's say all of the girls who responds to our ad are girls like Tawnee Stone

I'm thinking $10k for the month ?
$10k a month for an amateur?
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$10k a month for an amateur?
$10k as a one time payment for 100-200 series and 50 * 10 minutes videos .. all shot in a 30 day period
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most would do it for 10k
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Old 09-05-2004, 08:47 AM   #12
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$10k as a one time payment for 100-200 series and 50 * 10 minutes videos .. all shot in a 30 day period
Hopefully not upfront.. or the next day you wont hear from her again.
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Hopefully not upfront.. or the next day you wont hear from her again.
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Are you sure you're alotting enough time for the shoots? I mean have you shot on that schedule before? Assuming you mean the person only works weekdays (Monday-Friday), that knocks a month down to about 20 days. 50 10mins vids is 25 minutes a day, a lot more if you're editing raw footage down to 10 min vids, and 100-200 series would be 5 to 10 series a day. With wardrobe, makeup, sets and setup, 2-3 hours sounds optimistic. If you've got more than a couple people working, overhead time grows, with bathroom breaks, smoking breaks, etc.
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anywhere from $5-10,000 for that much work, depending where you are and also depending on the girl - if she's got great potential but is wishy washy on posing nude, money is your only weapon.

100 photosets - u can do 10 quality sets a day and 4 videos. u could do 15 or 20 sets a day if quality isn't that important and you have things planned out well.

so it's roughly 10 full days of modeling. double it if u want 200 sets.
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Are you sure you're alotting enough time for the shoots? I mean have you shot on that schedule before? Assuming you mean the person only works weekdays (Monday-Friday), that knocks a month down to about 20 days. 50 10mins vids is 25 minutes a day, a lot more if you're editing raw footage down to 10 min vids, and 100-200 series would be 5 to 10 series a day. With wardrobe, makeup, sets and setup, 2-3 hours sounds optimistic. If you've got more than a couple people working, overhead time grows, with bathroom breaks, smoking breaks, etc.
To be honest we have no experience shooting content ourselves - thanks for info - and it sure sounds like you're right
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Are you sure you're alotting enough time for the shoots? I mean have you shot on that schedule before? Assuming you mean the person only works weekdays (Monday-Friday), that knocks a month down to about 20 days. 50 10mins vids is 25 minutes a day, a lot more if you're editing raw footage down to 10 min vids, and 100-200 series would be 5 to 10 series a day. With wardrobe, makeup, sets and setup, 2-3 hours sounds optimistic. If you've got more than a couple people working, overhead time grows, with bathroom breaks, smoking breaks, etc.
he's talking about an amateur site, wardrobe, makeup and setups aren't that big a deal for that type of shoot. just need enough outfits and a good amateur location. 10 sets is very doable, 20 is overdoing it but if quality isn't really important u can hit 20.
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I'm pretty sure that that would attract girls from the wrong end of the "I'm a fat bitch" scale
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throw out the total cash offer, it sounds better and will be more enticing to the girls.

offer them $4k and they will jump

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To be honest we have no experience shooting content ourselves - thanks for info - and it sure sounds like you're right
Now what made me think that from the very beginning?

If you need to ask this question do yourself a favor and get a pro to shoot it for you.

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In a pigs ear you can shoot 10 quality sets a day with a new model and inexperienced shooter.

But then it depends what you call quality and what you call a set.

Changing location (within a studio), clothing, make up and resetting the lighting plus having a cup of coffee take 30 minutes. Shooting a set that has 120 DIFFERENT pictures, poses, angle and close ups takes 40 minutes. Which is 1 hour 10 minutes. do that 10 times that's the best part of 12 hours.

Even if the shooter can do it, which is highly unlikely, the model will be shit after 6 hours. But as I said it depends what you call quality.

When I shoot magazine sets I do 2-3 sets a day.

And for Amateur it has to look like she is enjoying herself and doing it for the fun of it, not forcing herself to stay for the money. Unless you mean "Crap photographer aiming a camera at a tired disinterested girl Amateur"
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To be honest we have no experience shooting content ourselves - thanks for info - and it sure sounds like you're right
Why not just hire us to do it if you do not have experience doing it. We can find the girl and shoot to your specs.


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Ofcourse, but let's say all of the girls who responds to our ad are girls like Tawnee Stone

I'm thinking $10k for the month ?
Never ever overpay.

200EUR per session cash would be enough for most.
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A new shooter, with a new model shooting content for a solo girl site.

The reason members sign up is the content, especially on a single girl site.

So to cut corners at this point is foolish at best.

You want to make money? Then be prepared to spend money, because if you are not the next guy is and his site could be the one your next member is coming from.
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Well, if you can shoot 150 picture sets and 50 10 minutes videos for $10k I see no problem in that
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Never ever overpay.

200EUR per session cash would be enough for most.
We cant get away with paying that here in Czech, so why do you assume you can in the US?

You are assuming the girl lives in a vacuum and is too stupid to contact anyone else for work. The moment she knows you are ripping her off you've lost her or lost her respect. Unless she is too ugly to get work elsewhere.
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Most girls get all bitchy and a fucked up attitude if you give them too much money cause they start to think that they are a star and could easily get another model job somewhere else for even more money.
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Don't ruin the market by paying that much
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Well, if you can shoot 150 picture sets and 50 10 minutes videos for $10k I see no problem in that
You don't have a cats chance in hell of him shooting it for that price and I doubt if you could shoot it for that price.

150 sets + 50 videos = 200 units.

At 10 units a day, and I doubt if you could do it, thats 20 days work. That's $500 a day. Try and find a half decent looking girl who will work for $400 a day. Then buy the equipment, props, locations, expenses finding a girl, overheads, your time (I'm assuming you are not unemployed) and a little bit for extras, like electricity, tea, coffee, lunch.

Make ti $20,000 and you are getting to the right ball park.
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We cant get away with paying that here in Czech, so why do you assume you can in the US?
He's from Europe, Denmark I think.

I wonder about your statement that you can't do that in czech cause it's a quite poor country compared to most other european countries and if a girl would get 2000EUR+ a month through that (depends on how many sessions are done) I doubt she'd say no.
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Most girls get all bitchy and a fucked up attitude if you give them too much money cause they start to think that they are a star and could easily get another model job somewhere else for even more money.
And ALL girls think you are robbing them if you're paying them $10 a day under the going rate.

Thwen you will find out what bitchy really means.

If you advertise in a paper she will see other ads, if she has ever worked she will know what others pay, if she comes from an agent you can forget about it.

What none of you are reckoning on is guys like us who can shoot and sell are paying a better rate to raise the bar and keep out those who can't pay the rate. It's not in a good shooters interest to have the girls running around working for every Tom, Dick or Harry for peanuts.
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He's from Europe, Denmark I think.

I wonder about your statement that you can't do that in czech cause it's a quite poor country compared to most other european countries and if a girl would get 2000EUR+ a month through that (depends on how many sessions are done) I doubt she'd say no.
Have you any idea how many crews there are in Czech shooting at one time?

Read my previous post. Make it cheaper we could double the number of crews here.

Agents are quoting and getting $500 a day + 20% commission for models. Hard Core is around $500 a scene, we are talking about good looking girls. And overseas guys are more than willing to pay it, they know the value.
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I am only planning on paying 100-150 an hour for amatuer girls if I get into shooting.

If you look at it like this it is fair. Commonly a college girl will make 5.50-10.00 an hour at her job. so let's say we put her in the middle and say she makes around 7.00 an hour. So before taxes she can skip about 20 hours of working and make some tax free cash for sitting there and getting her picture taken, this will allow her to study or do whatever it is she does. Or she can still work those days if she schedules everything and just make double time for those days. If the chic is really hot then she probably got into modeling already and trust me if you work for an agency you are getting raped and they know that. Never let a girl who works for an agency snow you into thinking she is making lots of money, that is not the way it works at all, stick to your guns and if you think you can make lots of money off her then up it a bit, maybe even double it.

If you feel like that is wrong then cut a deal with her and let her get "back end" or a percentage of the take from the site, this will keep her interested in your business and her career on the net, this is if she is solo material. Remember this is business, you have bills to pay and you have the most trouble and worries concerning this, she is talent (employee) so she gets payed to do work.
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I would never ever pay that in czech, but of course I'm not a professional content producer.I'd try my luck to get a girl on the streets for some quick solo hardcore stuff and when you see how less most people earn there I think my success rate wouldn't be that low.
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I would never ever pay that in czech, but of course I'm not a professional content producer.I'd try my luck to get a girl on the streets for some quick solo hardcore stuff and when you see how less most people earn there I think my success rate wouldn't be that low.
Wow why didn't I think of that.

Walk up to a stranger and ask her to come back to my place and shoot porn fim. Well it works for all the POV guys.

I'm assuming you speak fluent Czech and can deal with the police and boyfriends who will whip your arse.
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this thread makes me giggle like the 2257 ones do.
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Wow why didn't I think of that.

Walk up to a stranger and ask her to come back to my place and shoot porn fim. Well it works for all the POV guys.

I'm assuming you speak fluent Czech and can deal with the police and boyfriends who will whip your arse.
You ask single girls on the street if they're interested in erotic modeling, speaking czech would be a plus of course.That's how it's done in Japan.
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$10k seems too much to me.

But what do i know about content
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By the way I used to do alot of shooting in a no other adult modeling available type area. So the pricing and such was more controllable and there was no other choices for them.
Still alot if way off in this thread compared to reality.
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Wow why didn't I think of that.

Walk up to a stranger and ask her to come back to my place and shoot porn fim. Well it works for all the POV guys.

I'm assuming you speak fluent Czech and can deal with the police and boyfriends who will whip your arse.


I would like 2 see what would happen to them

some people don't have a clue.
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Old 09-05-2004, 11:21 AM   #46
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You ask single girls on the street if they're interested in erotic modeling, speaking czech would be a plus of course.That's how it's done in Japan.
Yes speaking Czech might help a bit.

This is the kind of gouy we want to keep out, so raised the prices a bit.

The other thing is there has been 15 years of crews coming here to shoot. Do you really think girls in Prague or Brno are totally ignorant about what they can earn in porn?

You really do not have a clue how it's done here.

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Very good read! I think read every single post in this thread and thats fucken rare.
Yes there has been a laugh along the way, but should we laugh at them or pity them?
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Old 09-05-2004, 11:24 AM   #47
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I would like 2 see what would happen to them

some people don't have a clue.
Could be interesting to see what happened to him, trying to explain to a girl who does not speak his language to come back to his hotel for some hard core porn.
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ya, 10k maybe over 4 months. i would pay her 2,500 per month and have her dedicate "x" amount of hours each month for that.
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Old 09-05-2004, 11:30 AM   #49
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You really do not have a clue how it's done here.
Never said that but interesting to know your views as a content producer.Prague is an expensive city so the local girls would surely expect some more money than elsewhere in czech.
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ya, 10k maybe over 4 months. i would pay her 2,500 per month and have her dedicate "x" amount of hours each month for that.
That works.

So long as she does not change her mind, get her boyfriend to change it, or he thinks she is worth more or she answers another ad and finds out you were under paying her.

Good looking girls are 1 in 10 or higher, they have an inflated opinion of themselves. You guys are thinking she's some hjick off a farm who knows nothing.

Good luck.
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