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  • psyko514
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    • Oct 2002
    • 22366

    #101
    100 stupid surfers and senile dirty old men posing as content providers to fool around with chicks he otherwise wouldn't have a chance with.

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    • VIPimp
      Marina WILL have my babies!
      • May 2003
      • 9234

      #102
      Originally posted by psyko514
      100 stupid surfers and senile dirty old men posing as content providers to fool around with chicks he otherwise wouldn't have a chance with.

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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #103
        Originally posted by psyko514

        Your opinion is wrong. We have many "webmasters who can really make a difference" promoting our program. I recruited two myself just yesterday, including the owner of a large program. And once again, your Acacia comment is the stupidest thing I've read in a while.
        But would you be making more money if Trey acted less of an idiot?

        100 stupid surfers and senile dirty old men posing as content providers to fool around with chicks he otherwise wouldn't have a chance with
        It's because I never had a problem with girls that I am such a good pornographer, but I guess you don't understand that.

        Look at all the good pornographers and fashion photographers in the world and ask yourself are they a good with the women because they are good with a camera or good with a camera because they are good with women?

        I've been a published pornographer since I was 27, so I guess I was a dirty old man then.



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        • psyko514
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          • Oct 2002
          • 22366

          #104
          Originally posted by charly
          I'm only quoting what Media told me on ICQ or was he lying?

          So you signed up because it was cheaper to watch someone else fight the battle for you? Like those you quoted.

          This is the reason I dislike Trey, not because his persona of an idiot on GFY. But because he straight faced lied and at a time when the industry should of been holding together and fighting Acacia he was boasting he signed up. Another reason affiliates should be wary of who they do business with. You know Lightspeed or Homegrown are not going to give your details out to Acacia.
          I'm pretty confident you don't even know or understand what the whole Acacia hullabaloo is all about.

          Regardless of the fact that you really have no clue what you're talking about, you made a blatantly clear that you dislike Epic Cash for signing with Acacia. Your dislike is apparently so strong that you feel the need to participate in virtually every Epic Cash related thread you see and libel, insult and trash our company.

          Strangely enough, you don't do the same when Lensman posts, or someone from Topbucks, Pornkings, CECash, etc posts. I wonder why that is?

          So here's my challenge to you:
          Drop your one-man crusade again Epic Cash. It won't result in anything. We're not going to unsign with Acacia and your constant slandering won't change anything.

          If you don't drop the one-man crusade, then start libeling every company that signed with Acacia and attack their reps as well. I expect you to trash Adult.com everytime Lensman posts.

          One last thing to add, and I may be completely off-base here, but as Trey has said many times, he's not the full owner of EC. So perhaps the decision wasn't entirely his to make?

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          • psyko514
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            • Oct 2002
            • 22366

            #105
            Originally posted by charly
            But would you be making more money if Trey acted less of an idiot?
            Nope. I work for a base salary plus commission. Trey's board persona helped me recruit over 20 webmasters in my downline before I even started working for Epic Cash.

            So when I started working for EC, I already had a 20+ webmaster head start to maximize the commissions I make.

            In fact, my job itself is partly due to Trey "acting like an idiot". It's very likely that if Trey's board persona didn't exist, I wouldn't have a job at all with EC.

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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089

              #106
              Originally posted by charly
              And this is the problem.

              Let's look at the facts.

              What ever Trey says about the success of EC it is not strong enough to resist Acacia.
              Okay, I am going to stop reading your post right here, and I hate you for making me look like I am in any way supporting PD or EC, but saying EC was not strong enough to resist Acacia is laughable.

              Are you saying that FlyntDigital/Hustler is not strong enough to resist Acacia?

              Give me a break

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              • boobmaster
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2003
                • 6185

                #107
                Epic Cash = screws surfers
                Epic Cash = shaves webmaster payouts
                Epic Cash = Sells out webmasters by supporting Acacia

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                • psyko514
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 22366

                  #108
                  anyways, i'm off to bed now.

                  charly, for the record, i respect you as a business man and a content provider. i've purchased your content in the past and probably will do it again in the future.

                  you're entitled to your opinions towards epic cash, but i think we get the point. i don't think it's necessary for you to mention it every chance you get.

                  if you, and anyone else in this thread, are interested in looking past GFY drama, being the grown, mature businessmen that we all are and doing some real business together, feel free to contact me at anytime. i won't bite.

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                  • psyko514
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 22366

                    #109
                    Originally posted by boobmaster
                    Epic Cash = screws surfers
                    Epic Cash = shaves webmaster payouts
                    Epic Cash = Sells out webmasters by supporting Acacia
                    got proof?

                    is this your correct info:

                    Charles, Re
                    305 W. 39th Street, #113
                    Austin, TX 78751
                    (512)302-0793

                    if it is, do you mind if you get sued for libel? cause i'm confident you can't back up your statements.

                    if the info is incorrect, do you mind providing myself and your registrar with the correct info? and do you mind if i report the false info to your registrar to encourage you to do so?

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                    • Paul Markham
                      Too old to care
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 52942

                      #110
                      Originally posted by psyko514
                      anyways, i'm off to bed now.

                      charly, for the record, i respect you as a business man and a content provider. i've purchased your content in the past and probably will do it again in the future.

                      you're entitled to your opinions towards epic cash, but i think we get the point. i don't think it's necessary for you to mention it every chance you get.

                      if you, and anyone else in this thread, are interested in looking past GFY drama, being the grown, mature businessmen that we all are and doing some real business together, feel free to contact me at anytime. i won't bite.
                      I do not trash Epic Cash, in fact I do not even know much about the program.

                      I trash Trey and his stand on why he signed with Acacia and the other side I learned from Media during out ICQ chat. He said EC could not afford to fight Acacia. Whether those who did or did not sign get trashed for doing so is up to me, but for the record I did criticise Hustler and CE Cash for doing so and coming up with a lot of BULLSHIT reasons for signing up. Just like Trey did.

                      You will never know what harm or good Trey's persona does to the company, until you shut him up or curb him long enough to gauge the response.



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                      • boobmaster
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 6185

                        #111
                        Originally posted by psyko514
                        got proof?

                        is this your correct info:

                        Charles, Re
                        305 W. 39th Street, #113
                        Austin, TX 78751
                        (512)302-0793

                        if it is, do you mind if you get sued for libel? cause i'm confident you can't back up your statements.

                        if the info is incorrect, do you mind providing myself and your registrar with the correct info? and do you mind if i report the false info to your registrar to encourage you to do so?
                        Actually, I've moved since then. Thanks for reminding me to change the info.

                        So, you're gonna sue me for libel, eh? Which part of my statement is false? Are you denying you pay Acacia? Just do a search on GFY for epic cash shaves for all the evidence you need for point 2.

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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #112
                          Originally posted by baddog
                          Okay, I am going to stop reading your post right here, and I hate you for making me look like I am in any way supporting PD or EC, but saying EC was not strong enough to resist Acacia is laughable.

                          No I'm saying that is what Media told me during an ICQ chat. So maybe they were big enough to resist and were just lying to me?



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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #113
                            I think by reading all this thread most people can make up their own minds on whether Treys persona harms or helps EC.



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                            • Forkbeard
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 2236

                              #114
                              Since this is my thread, I get to keep the facts straight, even though I'm not interested in the high school personality drama.
                              Originally posted by VIPimp
                              This problem was solved professionaly before it was posted here.
                              Not true. It was adressed -- speedily and professionally -- but it was not resolved. The surfer's problem had not been fixed when I posted -- nor has it been fixed yet that I know of.
                              Originally posted by psyko514
                              If you had read and understiid the very first post in this thread, you'd see that the surfer contacted one of our affiliates. Our affiliate contacted Cory who promptly replied to him. Cory directed the surfer to our processor (Epoch) as this is an error on Epoch's end, not Epic Cash's end.
                              I'm not greatly impressed from a customer service perspective. The customer was defeated by Epoch when she tried to cancel; I asked webmaster support to help the customer cancel, and the response was a very polite refusal. Problem not solved.

                              In 1996, Dell support would tell you "That's a windows problem" and hang up. The industry matured; now they stay on the line and help you fix it, even if they have to call Microsoft themselves. Believe it or not, I posted this thread as an example to all of us to show that we've got a lot of industry maturing yet to do.
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                              • boobmaster
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 6185

                                #115
                                Originally posted by charly
                                I think by reading all this thread most people can make up their own minds on whether Treys persona harms or helps EC.
                                That is the last thing that bothers me about Epiccash. I'm sure he's a cool dude who just likes to play the asshole, which is fine for THIS board.

                                My problems with Epiccash have more to do with other issues.

                                (1) Too many shaving rumors for my tastes. (I am not making the accusations, psyko514, so save your fucking lawsuit threats).

                                (2) They sold out to Acacia, which in and of itself eliminates me as potential affiliate (I ONLY support sponsors who stand with the rest of us during times of trouble).

                                (3) To me, Epiccash seems like a bunch of kids trying to get their bling and who are primarily looking to have a good time rather than building a solid business. Their CS has been suspect (again, from the reports I have heard). They remind me of how Apple Computer was run before the company was almost completely destroyed and miraculously rose from the dead.

                                I concede that I may be wrong about some of this, but it is my current opinion. In the context of all these concerns, I suppose trey's GFY persona doesn't help.

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                                • psyko514
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                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 22366

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by boobmaster
                                  Actually, I've moved since then. Thanks for reminding me to change the info.

                                  So, you're gonna sue me for libel, eh? Which part of my statement is false? Are you denying you pay Acacia? Just do a search on GFY for epic cash shaves for all the evidence you need for point 2.
                                  hey kiddo...

                                  you straight out said "Epic Cash = shaves webmaster payouts".

                                  don't try and backtrack later on and say you're only going by rumours. you straight out made the claim. therefore, the onus is on you to provide solid proof to back those claims, or else it's libel.

                                  do yourself a favour. head on over to www.clicktruth.com

                                  ClickTruth is a 3rd party stats auditing system. They monitor our program to watch for shaving. We voluntarily pay monthly for them to do that. Rest assured that if we really were shaving, like you claim we are, it would be publicly known.

                                  so as i said, since you're so confident we shave and that there is more proof than simply hearsay and rumours, i urge you to find it ASAP and post it here.

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                                  • Manowar
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                                    • Dec 2003
                                    • 71528

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by boobmaster

                                    Epic Cash = shaves webmaster payouts
                                    They are protected by ClickTruth, they can't. Try doing research before blurting out stuff

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                                    • XxXotic
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 8500

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by TexasDreams
                                      No, sorry to disappoint you, guess you?ll have to find someone else to stalk and beat up.

                                      But have a nice day!
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                                      • baddog
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 107089

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by charly
                                        No I'm saying that is what Media told me during an ICQ chat. So maybe they were big enough to resist and were just lying to me?
                                        once again your reading comprehension has let you down . . . I will admit I was surprised to learn that English is your native tongue.

                                        My point is lost on you.

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                                        • Rictor
                                          Old Timer
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 12208

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                          this you by chance?

                                          some fucking cam whore?

                                          http://imlive.com/waitingroom1.asp?f...ck=texasdreams
                                          MWAH HAHAHAHA! If TexasDreams looked like that, I'd let him have sex with my wife and video tape it. Unfortunately, he looks like a dude.

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                                          • tranza
                                            ICQ: 197-556-237
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 57559

                                            #121
                                            This doesn't surprise me.... The way p1mpdogg behaves shows a lot about their program....
                                            I'm just a newbie.

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                                            • railz
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2001
                                              • 2531

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by boobmaster
                                              Epic Cash = screws surfers
                                              Epic Cash = shaves webmaster payouts
                                              Epic Cash = Sells out webmasters by supporting Acacia
                                              I'm no EC Fan (Sorry Psy bud, but it's just the way I feel) but you have got balls made of steel saying this on a public board.
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