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Old 08-27-2004, 09:40 AM   #1
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if you contemplate suicide are you mentally stable?

how and why would someone even think of doing business with a person that is or has contemplated suicide?

does it seem like a trivial matter?

or do you think anyone that comes out looking for sympathy by talking about killing themselves should be seriously evaluated as to their mental capacity, and feel that in no way shape or form that you would do any business with them?

discuss, I am interested in hearing what you all think.
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Old 08-27-2004, 09:43 AM   #2
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Wasn't there some webmaster who hung himself in the last year?

I think people serious about suicide don't talk about it much. Those who do usually are just "crying out for attention" as they say.

Actually, that is more info than I would want to know about someone. Did someone post about killing themself or something??
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I myself think it really comes down to the situation that the person is in.

Some people do it for the "cry for help" or attention. A lot of people go through things when they are at a young age that do not make sense to them once they are older, they feel lost, or betrayed. As this build up inside usually someone they count on or love will turn on them making them feel lost and not needed, once that happens the point of life is lost.

It also can come down to working on everything, life, work, friends, family and it all gets to be to much, it's an escape from doing everything you can and just not getting anywhere. It can build up and push you over the edge.

I don't think these sort of people should be looked down upon or anything. I think it's perfectly sane to just get pushed over the edge and not want to deal with it anymore.
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ive thought about killing myself and many others.

please dont do business with me.
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ive thought about killing myself and many others.

please dont do business with me.
too bad, doing business with you anyhows
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I think as long as they are paying you for a service its ok. That way if they do kill themself, you won't be out of any money.

In fact, you might even make a profit.
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Having the thought cross your mind is completely different than "contemplating" it. I think if a person has put serious thought into, i.e. contemplated it, then they have some issues that need to be addressed. And no, I wouldn't do business with them. Those who've posted the "cry for help" situations also make very valid points.
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ive thought about killing myself and many others.

please dont do business with me.
suicide is for the week minded....

and anyone that is in that frame of mind has NO chance of doing their best work, or in fact actually even doing a half assed job at either....

I knew you wernt right already though LOL
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suicide is for the week minded....
"weak" minded... idiot
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suicide is for the week minded....

and anyone that is in that frame of mind has NO chance of doing their best work, or in fact actually even doing a half assed job at either....

I knew you wernt right already though LOL
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"weak" minded... idiot
I'd rather be mentally unstable as opposed to an overweight moron.
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Old 08-27-2004, 10:01 AM   #13
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I knew you wernt right already though LOL
i am not suicidal.... its called "humor"

here let me help...

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=humor

threads like this make people feel like killing themselves.... *off to make some money instead of this*
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suicide is for the week minded....
Bullshit. If you don't like your life, and would rather not have it, suicide is a very valid option.
For instance, if you suffer from chronic depression and neither therapy nor medication works, life can be little more than very heavy suffering. With nothing to look forward to, why live on?

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and anyone that is in that frame of mind has NO chance of doing their best work, or in fact actually even doing a half assed job at either....
Bullshit once more. Read up on studies on the subject... depressed people actually generally work longer, harder and better than people who are not depressed.


You should really not speak about things you know fuck all about
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Yeah...but then he'd be a mute. What fun would that be?
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suicide is for the week minded....

and anyone that is in that frame of mind has NO chance of doing their best work, or in fact actually even doing a half assed job at either....

I knew you wernt right already though LOL
In high school I was pretty much "suicidal" for 2 years. Had straight A's and was making $4k a month with 2 hours of work a day.
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I'd rather be mentally unstable as opposed to an overweight moron.
I think you are both though right? LOL
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Bullshit. If you don't like your life, and would rather not have it, suicide is a very valid option.
For instance, if you suffer from chronic depression and neither therapy nor medication works, life can be little more than very heavy suffering. With nothing to look forward to, why live on?



Bullshit once more. Read up on studies on the subject... depressed people actually generally work longer, harder and better than people who are not depressed.


You should really not speak about things you know fuck all about
so do us a favor and go end your suffering then, I mean I know the world is all dark and scary and shit... so why not just cop out and take the easy way.....

WTF I mean it sounds logical right? I mean you life is fucked up you are a loser, and know it so why try any longer.... and what were those mean old parents of yours thinking ? I mean did they not know how fucked up your life would be?


you fuckers are funny.....

so let me get this straight, it is OK to kill yourself, and be mentally unstable.

but it is not Ok to fight someone that trys to do you harm? LOL

your right man am I fucked up what the hell could I be thinking, maybe I should just go kill myself huh that will fix it LOL
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so let me get this straight, it is OK to kill yourself, and be mentally unstable.

but it is not Ok to fight someone that trys to do you harm? LOL

your right man am I fucked up what the hell could I be thinking, maybe I should just go kill myself huh that will fix it LOL
Your very slim grasp of reality shouldn't be pointed out by you... you should leave that to other more qualified people... like, everyone else.
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I think you are both though right? LOL
Mentally unstable...my shrink says I'm past that.

Fat slob? I'm a fucking twig dude. You're easily 3-4 times the size of me.
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Its totally ok to fight someone that would do you harm. Absolutely. Eye for an eye or just beat them to it.
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so do us a favor and go end your suffering then, I mean I know the world is all dark and scary and shit... so why not just cop out and take the easy way.....

WTF I mean it sounds logical right? I mean you life is fucked up you are a loser, and know it so why try any longer.... and what were those mean old parents of yours thinking ? I mean did they not know how fucked up your life would be?


you fuckers are funny.....

so let me get this straight, it is OK to kill yourself, and be mentally unstable.

but it is not Ok to fight someone that trys to do you harm? LOL

your right man am I fucked up what the hell could I be thinking, maybe I should just go kill myself huh that will fix it LOL
Wow, not only are you more than just mildly retarded, you're also an incoherently ranting psycho.
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Your very slim grasp of reality shouldn't be pointed out by you... you should leave that to other more qualified people... like, everyone else.
you are a loser now, and have been a loser your whole life LOL

but you knew that already didn't you

and no matter how many fake bullshit people come to say different about you, the smart ones ( i.e. the ones I do business wtih, or will do business with, know this too)

lie all you want but you are the one that has to face your own truth LOL

( hence why you think killing yourself is a good idea LOL)

what does your daddy and mommy think? do they tell you what a fucking loser you are too?
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Wow, not only are you more than just mildly retarded, you're also an incoherently ranting psycho.
haha I am tough enough to beat my deamons, and also others, yet you are not and I am the phsyco?


no wonder you are a failure and have contemplated suicide in the past LOL

does seeing a shrink make you better than others who have no need for one ?
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haha I am tough enough to beat my deamons, and also others, yet you are not and I am the phsyco?


no wonder you are a failure and have contemplated suicide in the past LOL

does seeing a shrink make you better than others who have no need for one ?
Thanks for pointing out your retarded side even more, by assuming that having done psychology courses in university equals being suicidal.

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you are a loser now, and have been a loser your whole life LOL

but you knew that already didn't you

and no matter how many fake bullshit people come to say different about you, the smart ones ( i.e. the ones I do business wtih, or will do business with, know this too)

lie all you want but you are the one that has to face your own truth LOL

( hence why you think killing yourself is a good idea LOL)

what does your daddy and mommy think? do they tell you what a fucking loser you are too?
Yup, these people are all fake and I'm lying because of what they say. Ok there mentally stable guy

Oh, and yes... my mommy and daddy think I'm a loser, especially when I help to pay their mortgages... that's what us crazy people do.
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Thinking of killing yourself is kind of lame. However, murder suicide makes for more publicity. Even though, that's kind of lame too. If somebody has a death wish, why not do something fun and exciting like sky diving or base jumping. Do it enough, get careless with the chutes, you'll eventually die anyway. Nuff said.
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I think that if someone have a horrible life that they decide they don't want, that's not indicative of anything by itself. If you have absolutely nothing to look forward to in the present or the future, why would you have to be mentally instabile to choose to end it? It seems a rather logical last solution if you indeed have no hope.

The people that use alleged suicide intentions as a way to get attention however have some issues to work on.
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how and why would someone even think of doing business with a person that is or has contemplated suicide?
as aposed to someone ranting and yelling over the boards abouut pounding someone into the dirt because they read something they didnt like and acting like a grade 8 bully...
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if they talk about it ... yes

if they just think it ... maybe not

Life sucks for a lot of people ... would be easier in death
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Please... rational thought has no place in a joesho thread.
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I think that it's probably crossed everyone's mind at one point in time. Especially in the early teen years.

Who is this mentally unstable person that you speak off? And I would have to agree with Cherry that people that contemplate suicide often never speak of it and those that do are often looking for help etc.
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I think that it's probably crossed everyone's mind at one point in time. Especially in the early teen years.

Who is this mentally unstable person that you speak off? And I would have to agree with Cherry that people that contemplate suicide often never speak of it and those that do are often looking for help etc.
It's me... this is Joe's attempt at trying to make people second guess themselves about whether or not they should do business with me.

Nice of him huh?
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Alot of the people talking about suicide are people looking for attention. Not many people really contemplating suidcide will tell you that their thinking about it.

My ex use to tell me that she attempted suicide, but her brother walked in. I told her that she was just looking for atttention, if you're going to kill yourself and you're forsure you want to, you will make sure that NOBODY will be around when you do it, so you can't be stopped. All alot of these people are looking for is attention.

The same ex tried to pull the I'll slash my wrist right here, I handed her a knife and said, go for, I wanna see you, I won't stop you and I'll call 911 once you pass out so you can't be revived. She was looking for attention, because she backed out! I will say the episodes like this, they are mentally unstable, because of the whole attention draw.

But if you do commit suicide, there's no telling what state you were in. Some people get pushed to the edge, shit happens man. What about the people that jumped from a 100 stories up from the WTC? That is technically committing suicide, but was was their state of mind? They're going to die anyways, are the mentally unstable?

So you can be mentally unstable and mentally stable when you contemplate suicide. Just my

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Old 08-27-2004, 12:34 PM   #44
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It's me... this is Joe's attempt at trying to make people second guess themselves about whether or not they should do business with me.

Nice of him huh?
What the hell? I must have missed that somewhere along the way.

Either way, suicide is not something to poke fun of and I am sure that a lot of people on this board have dealt with it in one form or another. It's pointless to start useless threads about a topic that may hit close to home for a lot of people.

Punkworld, your posts are great
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:38 PM   #45
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What the hell? I must have missed that somewhere along the way.

Either way, suicide is not something to poke fun of and I am sure that a lot of people on this board have dealt with it in one form or another. It's pointless to start useless threads about a topic that may hit close to home for a lot of people.

Punkworld, your posts are great
was a long story, but it's changed now. I've got myself a good girl who's been taking care of me, and I'll be moving very soon and starting my life all over again totally reborn.... finishing off things that I had started and couldn't finish and starting brand new things.

For the first time in a long time, I have a very positive outlook on most everything coming up.
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:40 PM   #46
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Some of the most important things that have ever been done, have been done by insane people, who then ended up killing them selves later.
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:55 PM   #47
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was a long story, but it's changed now. I've got myself a good girl who's been taking care of me, and I'll be moving very soon and starting my life all over again totally reborn.... finishing off things that I had started and couldn't finish and starting brand new things.

For the first time in a long time, I have a very positive outlook on most everything coming up.
That's wonderful, if there ever was a person with a good heart and a good head that deserved to be happy, it's you Stewy my man!!

Good luck with everything!!! And do not allow others to bring you down!!
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Old 08-27-2004, 02:55 PM   #48
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how and why would someone even think of doing business with a person that is or has contemplated suicide?
A person that is contemplating suicide obviously has a very big load of baggage to carry around. How focused can you be on bizness if you're figuring out a way to prevent yourself from living?

A person who has contemplated suicide, very different story. Everybody deals with a lot of shit, some people can cope, others can't. Some give up, some don't. Some decide to put an end to it, some get better and keep on going.

I think I wouldn't judge a person who contemplated suicide in their past if they are having good karma now, and if they didn't hurt others during their bad times... feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...

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was a long story, but it's changed now. I've got myself a good girl who's been taking care of me, and I'll be moving very soon and starting my life all over again totally reborn.... finishing off things that I had started and couldn't finish and starting brand new things.

For the first time in a long time, I have a very positive outlook on most everything coming up.
i.e. I am a loser, have always been, and needed attention from people cause I am a tool otherwise
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