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  • Joesho
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    • Jan 2003
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    #1

    if you contemplate suicide are you mentally stable?

    how and why would someone even think of doing business with a person that is or has contemplated suicide?

    does it seem like a trivial matter?

    or do you think anyone that comes out looking for sympathy by talking about killing themselves should be seriously evaluated as to their mental capacity, and feel that in no way shape or form that you would do any business with them?

    discuss, I am interested in hearing what you all think.
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  • cherrylula
    lol
    • Jan 2002
    • 15969

    #2
    Wasn't there some webmaster who hung himself in the last year?

    I think people serious about suicide don't talk about it much. Those who do usually are just "crying out for attention" as they say.

    Actually, that is more info than I would want to know about someone. Did someone post about killing themself or something??

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    • .:St Ides:.
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      • Jul 2004
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      #3
      I myself think it really comes down to the situation that the person is in.

      Some people do it for the "cry for help" or attention. A lot of people go through things when they are at a young age that do not make sense to them once they are older, they feel lost, or betrayed. As this build up inside usually someone they count on or love will turn on them making them feel lost and not needed, once that happens the point of life is lost.

      It also can come down to working on everything, life, work, friends, family and it all gets to be to much, it's an escape from doing everything you can and just not getting anywhere. It can build up and push you over the edge.

      I don't think these sort of people should be looked down upon or anything. I think it's perfectly sane to just get pushed over the edge and not want to deal with it anymore.

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      • ytcracker
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        • Dec 2002
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        #4
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        • Fletch XXX
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          • Jan 2002
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          #5
          ive thought about killing myself and many others.

          please dont do business with me.

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          • C_U_Next_Tuesday
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            • Oct 2002
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            #6
            Originally posted by Fletch XXX
            ive thought about killing myself and many others.

            please dont do business with me.
            too bad, doing business with you anyhows

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            • cherrylula
              lol
              • Jan 2002
              • 15969

              #7
              I think as long as they are paying you for a service its ok. That way if they do kill themself, you won't be out of any money.

              In fact, you might even make a profit.

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              • psili
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                • Apr 2003
                • 5526

                #8
                Having the thought cross your mind is completely different than "contemplating" it. I think if a person has put serious thought into, i.e. contemplated it, then they have some issues that need to be addressed. And no, I wouldn't do business with them. Those who've posted the "cry for help" situations also make very valid points.
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                • Joesho
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 12329

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                  ive thought about killing myself and many others.

                  please dont do business with me.
                  suicide is for the week minded....

                  and anyone that is in that frame of mind has NO chance of doing their best work, or in fact actually even doing a half assed job at either....

                  I knew you wernt right already though LOL
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                  • StuartD
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joesho
                    suicide is for the week minded....
                    "weak" minded... idiot
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                    • cherrylula
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                      • Jan 2002
                      • 15969

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Joesho
                      suicide is for the week minded....

                      and anyone that is in that frame of mind has NO chance of doing their best work, or in fact actually even doing a half assed job at either....

                      I knew you wernt right already though LOL
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                      • candyflip
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 43069

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MaskedMan
                        "weak" minded... idiot
                        I'd rather be mentally unstable as opposed to an overweight moron.

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                        • Fletch XXX
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                          • Jan 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Joesho


                          I knew you wernt right already though LOL
                          i am not suicidal.... its called "humor"

                          here let me help...

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                          threads like this make people feel like killing themselves.... *off to make some money instead of this*

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                          • Phoenix
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                            #14
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                            • Libertine
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                              • May 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Joesho
                              suicide is for the week minded....
                              Bullshit. If you don't like your life, and would rather not have it, suicide is a very valid option.
                              For instance, if you suffer from chronic depression and neither therapy nor medication works, life can be little more than very heavy suffering. With nothing to look forward to, why live on?

                              Originally posted by Joesho
                              and anyone that is in that frame of mind has NO chance of doing their best work, or in fact actually even doing a half assed job at either....
                              Bullshit once more. Read up on studies on the subject... depressed people actually generally work longer, harder and better than people who are not depressed.


                              You should really not speak about things you know fuck all about
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                              • candyflip
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by punkworld
                                You should really not speak about things you know fuck all about
                                Yeah...but then he'd be a mute. What fun would that be?

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                                • Sly_RJ
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Joesho
                                  suicide is for the week minded....

                                  and anyone that is in that frame of mind has NO chance of doing their best work, or in fact actually even doing a half assed job at either....

                                  I knew you wernt right already though LOL
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                                  • Joesho
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                                    • Jan 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by candyflip
                                    I'd rather be mentally unstable as opposed to an overweight moron.
                                    I think you are both though right? LOL
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                                    • Joesho
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                                      • Jan 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by punkworld
                                      Bullshit. If you don't like your life, and would rather not have it, suicide is a very valid option.
                                      For instance, if you suffer from chronic depression and neither therapy nor medication works, life can be little more than very heavy suffering. With nothing to look forward to, why live on?



                                      Bullshit once more. Read up on studies on the subject... depressed people actually generally work longer, harder and better than people who are not depressed.


                                      You should really not speak about things you know fuck all about
                                      so do us a favor and go end your suffering then, I mean I know the world is all dark and scary and shit... so why not just cop out and take the easy way.....

                                      WTF I mean it sounds logical right? I mean you life is fucked up you are a loser, and know it so why try any longer.... and what were those mean old parents of yours thinking ? I mean did they not know how fucked up your life would be?


                                      you fuckers are funny.....

                                      so let me get this straight, it is OK to kill yourself, and be mentally unstable.

                                      but it is not Ok to fight someone that trys to do you harm? LOL

                                      your right man am I fucked up what the hell could I be thinking, maybe I should just go kill myself huh that will fix it LOL
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                                      • StuartD
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Joesho
                                        so let me get this straight, it is OK to kill yourself, and be mentally unstable.

                                        but it is not Ok to fight someone that trys to do you harm? LOL

                                        your right man am I fucked up what the hell could I be thinking, maybe I should just go kill myself huh that will fix it LOL
                                        Your very slim grasp of reality shouldn't be pointed out by you... you should leave that to other more qualified people... like, everyone else.
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                                        • candyflip
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                                          • Jul 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Joesho
                                          I think you are both though right? LOL
                                          Mentally unstable...my shrink says I'm past that.

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                                          • cherrylula
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                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 15969

                                            #22
                                            Its totally ok to fight someone that would do you harm. Absolutely. Eye for an eye or just beat them to it.

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                                            • Libertine
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                                              • May 2002
                                              • 17860

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Joesho
                                              so do us a favor and go end your suffering then, I mean I know the world is all dark and scary and shit... so why not just cop out and take the easy way.....

                                              WTF I mean it sounds logical right? I mean you life is fucked up you are a loser, and know it so why try any longer.... and what were those mean old parents of yours thinking ? I mean did they not know how fucked up your life would be?


                                              you fuckers are funny.....

                                              so let me get this straight, it is OK to kill yourself, and be mentally unstable.

                                              but it is not Ok to fight someone that trys to do you harm? LOL

                                              your right man am I fucked up what the hell could I be thinking, maybe I should just go kill myself huh that will fix it LOL
                                              Wow, not only are you more than just mildly retarded, you're also an incoherently ranting psycho.
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                                              • Joesho
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                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 12329

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                Your very slim grasp of reality shouldn't be pointed out by you... you should leave that to other more qualified people... like, everyone else.
                                                you are a loser now, and have been a loser your whole life LOL

                                                but you knew that already didn't you

                                                and no matter how many fake bullshit people come to say different about you, the smart ones ( i.e. the ones I do business wtih, or will do business with, know this too)

                                                lie all you want but you are the one that has to face your own truth LOL

                                                ( hence why you think killing yourself is a good idea LOL)

                                                what does your daddy and mommy think? do they tell you what a fucking loser you are too?
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                                                • Joesho
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by punkworld
                                                  Wow, not only are you more than just mildly retarded, you're also an incoherently ranting psycho.
                                                  haha I am tough enough to beat my deamons, and also others, yet you are not and I am the phsyco?


                                                  no wonder you are a failure and have contemplated suicide in the past LOL

                                                  does seeing a shrink make you better than others who have no need for one ?
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                                                  • Libertine
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                                                    • May 2002
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Joesho
                                                    haha I am tough enough to beat my deamons, and also others, yet you are not and I am the phsyco?


                                                    no wonder you are a failure and have contemplated suicide in the past LOL

                                                    does seeing a shrink make you better than others who have no need for one ?
                                                    Thanks for pointing out your retarded side even more, by assuming that having done psychology courses in university equals being suicidal.

                                                    Fucking idiot
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                                                    • StuartD
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                                                      • Jul 2002
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Joesho
                                                      you are a loser now, and have been a loser your whole life LOL

                                                      but you knew that already didn't you

                                                      and no matter how many fake bullshit people come to say different about you, the smart ones ( i.e. the ones I do business wtih, or will do business with, know this too)

                                                      lie all you want but you are the one that has to face your own truth LOL

                                                      ( hence why you think killing yourself is a good idea LOL)

                                                      what does your daddy and mommy think? do they tell you what a fucking loser you are too?
                                                      Yup, these people are all fake and I'm lying because of what they say. Ok there mentally stable guy

                                                      Oh, and yes... my mommy and daddy think I'm a loser, especially when I help to pay their mortgages... that's what us crazy people do.
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                                                      • NinjaSteve
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                                                        • Dec 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        Thinking of killing yourself is kind of lame. However, murder suicide makes for more publicity. Even though, that's kind of lame too. If somebody has a death wish, why not do something fun and exciting like sky diving or base jumping. Do it enough, get careless with the chutes, you'll eventually die anyway. Nuff said.
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                                                        • candyflip
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                                                          • Jul 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Joesho
                                                          does seeing a shrink make you better than others who have no need for one ?
                                                          Here...I'll let you answer your own question.


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                                                          • Halo18
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by candyflip
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                                                            • Joesho
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                                                              #31
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                                                              • Floridiot
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                                                                #32
                                                                no


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                                                                • Repetitive Monkey
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                                                                  • Feb 2004
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I think that if someone have a horrible life that they decide they don't want, that's not indicative of anything by itself. If you have absolutely nothing to look forward to in the present or the future, why would you have to be mentally instabile to choose to end it? It seems a rather logical last solution if you indeed have no hope.

                                                                  The people that use alleged suicide intentions as a way to get attention however have some issues to work on.

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                                                                  • Basic_man
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                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • Fake Nick
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill themselves, is it considered a hostage situation?

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                                                                      • candyflip
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                                        If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill themselves, is it considered a hostage situation?
                                                                        Here's Joes answer...take it for what it's worth.


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                                                                        • ColBigBalls
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Joesho
                                                                          how and why would someone even think of doing business with a person that is or has contemplated suicide?
                                                                          as aposed to someone ranting and yelling over the boards abouut pounding someone into the dirt because they read something they didnt like and acting like a grade 8 bully...

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                                                                          • Doctor Dre
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            if they talk about it ... yes

                                                                            if they just think it ... maybe not

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                                                                            • StuartD
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by ColBigBalls
                                                                              as aposed to someone ranting and yelling over the boards abouut pounding someone into the dirt because they read something they didnt like and acting like a grade 8 bully...
                                                                              Please... rational thought has no place in a joesho thread.
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                                                                              • ColBigBalls
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                Please... rational thought has no place in a joesho thread.
                                                                                my bad

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                                                                                • sherie
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I think that it's probably crossed everyone's mind at one point in time. Especially in the early teen years.

                                                                                  Who is this mentally unstable person that you speak off? And I would have to agree with Cherry that people that contemplate suicide often never speak of it and those that do are often looking for help etc.
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                                                                                  • StuartD
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by sherie
                                                                                    I think that it's probably crossed everyone's mind at one point in time. Especially in the early teen years.

                                                                                    Who is this mentally unstable person that you speak off? And I would have to agree with Cherry that people that contemplate suicide often never speak of it and those that do are often looking for help etc.
                                                                                    It's me... this is Joe's attempt at trying to make people second guess themselves about whether or not they should do business with me.

                                                                                    Nice of him huh?
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                                                                                    • JDog
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Alot of the people talking about suicide are people looking for attention. Not many people really contemplating suidcide will tell you that their thinking about it.

                                                                                      My ex use to tell me that she attempted suicide, but her brother walked in. I told her that she was just looking for atttention, if you're going to kill yourself and you're forsure you want to, you will make sure that NOBODY will be around when you do it, so you can't be stopped. All alot of these people are looking for is attention.

                                                                                      The same ex tried to pull the I'll slash my wrist right here, I handed her a knife and said, go for, I wanna see you, I won't stop you and I'll call 911 once you pass out so you can't be revived. She was looking for attention, because she backed out! I will say the episodes like this, they are mentally unstable, because of the whole attention draw.

                                                                                      But if you do commit suicide, there's no telling what state you were in. Some people get pushed to the edge, shit happens man. What about the people that jumped from a 100 stories up from the WTC? That is technically committing suicide, but was was their state of mind? They're going to die anyways, are the mentally unstable?

                                                                                      So you can be mentally unstable and mentally stable when you contemplate suicide. Just my

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                                                                                      • sherie
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                        It's me... this is Joe's attempt at trying to make people second guess themselves about whether or not they should do business with me.

                                                                                        Nice of him huh?
                                                                                        What the hell? I must have missed that somewhere along the way.

                                                                                        Either way, suicide is not something to poke fun of and I am sure that a lot of people on this board have dealt with it in one form or another. It's pointless to start useless threads about a topic that may hit close to home for a lot of people.

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                                                                                        • StuartD
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by sherie
                                                                                          What the hell? I must have missed that somewhere along the way.

                                                                                          Either way, suicide is not something to poke fun of and I am sure that a lot of people on this board have dealt with it in one form or another. It's pointless to start useless threads about a topic that may hit close to home for a lot of people.

                                                                                          Punkworld, your posts are great
                                                                                          was a long story, but it's changed now. I've got myself a good girl who's been taking care of me, and I'll be moving very soon and starting my life all over again totally reborn.... finishing off things that I had started and couldn't finish and starting brand new things.

                                                                                          For the first time in a long time, I have a very positive outlook on most everything coming up.
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                                                                                          • pornguy
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                                                                                            #46
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                                                                                            • sherie
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                              was a long story, but it's changed now. I've got myself a good girl who's been taking care of me, and I'll be moving very soon and starting my life all over again totally reborn.... finishing off things that I had started and couldn't finish and starting brand new things.

                                                                                              For the first time in a long time, I have a very positive outlook on most everything coming up.
                                                                                              That's wonderful, if there ever was a person with a good heart and a good head that deserved to be happy, it's you Stewy my man!!

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                                                                                              • panchodog's izzy
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Joesho
                                                                                                how and why would someone even think of doing business with a person that is or has contemplated suicide?
                                                                                                A person that is contemplating suicide obviously has a very big load of baggage to carry around. How focused can you be on bizness if you're figuring out a way to prevent yourself from living?

                                                                                                A person who has contemplated suicide, very different story. Everybody deals with a lot of shit, some people can cope, others can't. Some give up, some don't. Some decide to put an end to it, some get better and keep on going.

                                                                                                I think I wouldn't judge a person who contemplated suicide in their past if they are having good karma now, and if they didn't hurt others during their bad times... feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...

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                                                                                                • Joesho
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                                  was a long story, but it's changed now. I've got myself a good girl who's been taking care of me, and I'll be moving very soon and starting my life all over again totally reborn.... finishing off things that I had started and couldn't finish and starting brand new things.

                                                                                                  For the first time in a long time, I have a very positive outlook on most everything coming up.
                                                                                                  i.e. I am a loser, have always been, and needed attention from people cause I am a tool otherwise
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