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Old 05-29-2001, 04:29 PM   #51
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That would explain a lot, like body hair for one.
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Old 05-29-2001, 04:35 PM   #52
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lunch in heaven...sounds lovely but why only beautiful women??? can I get a few guys to join us?


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Old 05-29-2001, 04:37 PM   #53
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Several ways to look at this -

"go forth and prosper" porn is prospering

"Money is the root of all evil" - online porn is the only money making dot.com around.

"Love thy neighbor"- we'll just leave that as is.

Judge not sayth the Lord - so who can really decide until you get there if you are going to heaven or hell?


Besides - God is a woman and she has a great sense of humor why else would men feel the need to name their penis?
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Old 05-29-2001, 04:43 PM   #54
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I never said the book made sense. But when I bring those two points up it normally pushes certain peoples buttons.

Who knows 2000 years from now the Vagina Monologue's could be the bible of 4001.

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Old 05-29-2001, 05:02 PM   #55
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Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. She was a harlot. A harlot was actually, a pagan priestess. The term harlot has been twisted over the centuries so that it now means whore.

The thing I always ask the kids is, if the world isn't millions of years old and that the dinosaurs actually lived on the planet at the same time as humans, then how come there's no mention of them in the bible?

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Old 05-29-2001, 06:05 PM   #56
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Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. She was a harlot. A harlot was actually, a pagan priestess. The term harlot has been twisted over the centuries so that it now means whore.
Harlots were priestesses who taught men "sexual mysteries," much as high-end "escorts" and prostitutes do today. So, to say Mary Magdalene was a harlot doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't promiscuous, not that that would be such a bad thing.

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Old 05-29-2001, 08:27 PM   #57
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What the heck is this talk about Dinosaurs? So what if there is no mentioning of Dinosaurs in the bible, man you guys are unbelieveable. Cats and Dogs weren't in the bible, but do they exist? Also some dinosaurs is still alive today eg. alligators
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Old 05-29-2001, 09:02 PM   #58
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Also some dinosaurs is still alive today eg. alligators
I don't think alligators are "technically" dinosaurs. Sharks also survived since the time of the dinosaurs.

The biggest issues I can think of at the moment are:

in the bible it says the sun revolves around the earth.

Evolution isn't a theory, it's a fact. The theory of evolution is how and why it happens, the fact that it happened isn't really a question scientifically. People see this one as a huge challenge to the bible, but it's really not. In the middle ages the church thought that the fact that we moved around the sun would destroy christianity, it didn't hurt it a bit.

Here's the one that gets me:

There are many civilizations that existed before Christianity. Now how did the children and grandchildren of Adam and Eve forget about God and make up all those pagan religions? I mean if you look at history logically, without religios bias - man existed before God, thus man created God rather than vice-versa.

On the other hand, if you have faith none of this should matter. Man should not endeaver to know the mind of God.

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Old 05-29-2001, 09:06 PM   #59
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Dogs are mentioned in the Bible at least 40 times.

I was referring to the misguided theory that was stated above being that the world is only 6000 years old and that man and Dinosaur lived on earth at the same time.

As for the harlot thing, yes the priestess did perform sexual acts, but this was done in the context of religious ritual. ie: the sexual act was a way of bringing the believer closer to the pagan god. Many past religions used sex as part of their sacraments.

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Old 05-29-2001, 09:37 PM   #60
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I am not trying to win a DVD player because I already have one... Lensman, if I ever win a DVD player, you can give it to my friend titmowse here.
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Old 05-29-2001, 10:13 PM   #61
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well, rice_master, i am sorry i doubted your sincerity and i apologize. i just find so many of these obviously inflammatory post subjects are designed with the prize in mind. i don't want a prize either babe. i just want to make sure we are all having a real discussion here.
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Old 05-29-2001, 11:41 PM   #62
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Fuck! Then give me the God Damn DVD...Ill take it.

You fuckers wont need it when your burning in hell!
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Old 05-30-2001, 02:59 AM   #63
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Are Dinosaurs in the Bible?
The word "dinosaur" is not found anywhere in the Bible. This is because the word "Dinosaur" was not invented until the mid 1800's. The "King James Bible" was translated into English in 1611. - So we would not expect to find the word "dinosaur."
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Biblical description of dinosaur?
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God starts by telling Job about the small animals that he made. He then continues to describe the other animals, each bigger and stronger than the one he previously mentioned, until finally in the concluding chapters God tells Job about the biggest animal that ever lived. A dinosaur called the "Behemoth"



Job 40:15-24


"Behold now the Behemoth, which I made with you. He eats grass like the ox.
Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moves his tail like a cedar tree: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are like strong pieces of brass: his bones are like bars of iron. He is the chief of the ways of God: He that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.

Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. He lies under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed and fens (a swamp or marsh). The shady trees cover him with their shadow: the willows of the brook compass him about. Behold he drinks up a river, and hastens not: he trusts that he can draw up the Jordan River into his mouth.

He takes it with his eyes, his nose pierces through snares"

Hmmm, don't know too many animals other than a Dinasaur this would describe.
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What kind of animal is the Behemoth?

Some commentators have suggested that the Behemoth could be a hippo, or an elephant. But both of these suggestions ignore the physical description of the Behemoth given in the Bible.

Hippos and elephants have very short tails. The Behemoth described in the Bible had a tail so long and so strong that God compared it to a cedar tree.

The Behemoths tail was as long as, and as strong as the trunk of a tree. Yet it could easily bend like one of its flexible branches.

This description fits no living animal. - This does not imply that the behemoth was a mythical animal, perhaps it is just an extinct one.

Cedar trees were on of the largest and most spectacular trees in the ancient world.

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Just one of many articles on the Paluxy dinosaur/man footprints found in the same mud.

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I'm starting to sound like a bible thumper, lol. It is just that there is so much evidence that Dr. Kent Hovind put forth in this series of videos he produced, I was convinced.

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Should see the stuff on how the grand canyon could have been formed in a few days, using what happend with Mt. St. Helens as an example. Cool stuff. I'm tired and rambling. You either believe, or ya don't. That simple.



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Old 05-30-2001, 04:38 AM   #64
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Rice Master I am not a religious man.

I don't believe in Heaven and Hell, but after reading up on both sides, I must say and I'm not kidding or joking around that if there realy should be a God and a devil I volunteer for a place in hell.

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How do you know that all the things that attract you to wanting a place in hell aren't actually the characteristics of what is found in heaven? It could be a deception planned by the devil to make you want to go to hell thinking it's going to be one thing when it could be another.

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Old 05-30-2001, 11:50 AM   #66
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Damn WebMistress, good post. As someone who thinks they know everything I can honestly say I didn't know that.

The need to put that one in "Histories Mysteries" on the history channel.
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Warphead, thanks. I was up to 3am trying to find the website with that info, was driving me nuts.

A friend of my boyfriend gave him a series of 7 video tapes to watch a month or so ago, and I was absolutely blown away by these tapes. My entire fundamental belief system of evoloution was challenged.

Finally, someone who believed in the bible went through and gave some scientific evidence in support of creation, not just a little, but about 14 hours worth of it.

I found this very inspiring. The evidence is so overwhelming, it is amazing that they still teach evolution.

See, evolution, despite anyone's feelings, is a religion. It has a set of doctrines, beliefs, etc. There is an enormous amount of evidence that is contrary to evolution

(For instance, artifacts that were made by humans found WITHIN lumps of coal. Well if that stuff formed millions of years ago, how did this stuff get INSIDE solid chunks?)

BUT, most scientists that are funded with grants will lose their funding if they put forth theories AGAINST evolution. Teachers have been fired for teaching AGAINIST evolution.

So what does that leave you? A HELL of a lot of evidence that has been supressed, or is not put out in mainstream culture because of this system.

Those dinasaur/human tracks. I saw on the tape that one of the original men that were excavating the dig was there when NOVA was filming the dinasaur tracks. Right behind them, they were excavating a chunk that showed human footprints interspaced with dinasaur prints, some with human footprints ON TOP of dinosaurs, so they walked afterwards.

NOVA refused to film it, saying they saw "NO EVIDENCE" that humans and dinosaurs co-exisited. This is how strongly evolution is entrenched, and that evidence will be overlooked that is contrary to it.

I believed in evolution. I figured that 6 days was figurative, maybe each day was 1,000's of years. I don't believe in evolution any more.

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Dank, first I don't believ ein heaven or hell so this was hypothetical.

Asuming heaven and hell are as stated in the bible, I would not want to be around the people in heaven.

As for your question, for all we know it could be God doing the deceiving, there's no guarantee he's not so your question goes vice versa too

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Finally, someone who believed in the bible went through and gave some scientific evidence in support of creation, not just a little, but about 14 hours worth of it.

I found this very inspiring. The evidence is so overwhelming, it is amazing that they still teach evolution.

See, evolution, despite anyone's feelings, is a religion. It has a set of doctrines, beliefs, etc. There is an enormous amount of evidence that is contrary to evolution.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Scientific evidence from the Bible!?! I guess you never knew that the bible is a collection of myths used to explain our world and help guide people to a better life, much like mythology. There is NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE for creationism, NONE. It's a myth. Evolution is a fact accepted by every reputable scientist in the world. Evolution is not a religion, there is nothing you have to believe in with evolution. Why? Because it's backed up ONLY BY FACTS. Is creationism? NO. That's why creationism is a myth. I challenge you to come up with one FACT in support of creationism (i.e. God crafted the world and created humans in his own image).

Oh and by the way, if you think God created dinosaurs at the same time as he made humans, you are assuming that God is a fucking moron. Why? Dinosaurs no longer exist today. Thus, God must be pretty damn dumb if He can't create a species that can thrive with other species in a confortable enivornment which suits the dinosaurs lifestyle. Evolution explains why the dinosaur is no longer here. Creationism can't. Also, there are no drawings of dinosaurs anywhere before we dug up the bones. Surely if humans saw such massive creatures they would draw them on a cave wall, like they did with buffalo.

Any non believers in Evolution should go to their public library and pick up a copy of Isaac Asimov's "The Roving Mind" and read the first Essay.



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See how wrong the bible is when you are burning in hell.

Running a pornsite will not get you into hell.

However, by not accepting Jesus Christ as your almighty savior...your eternal life will be lost.
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As for the harlot thing, yes the priestess did perform sexual acts, but this was done in the context of religious ritual. ie: the sexual act was a way of bringing the believer closer to the pagan god. Many past religions used sex as part of their sacraments.
I'm not sure that, today, a harlot would be treated any different from a common hooker. All you're really saying is that the harlot believed she was performing a valued and/or sacred service, and a lot of prostitutes believe that today. And I agree with them to a large extent. However, being a harlot and a prostitute aren't mutually exclusive terms, as you imply. And, as I've implied above, being a prostitute isn't such a bad thing. I mean, after all, a gal could be selling whole life insurance on babies.

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Evolution is the product of science. Creationism is the product of religion. I often hear people say something like, "Look at how many times science has been wrong and has had to correct itself. My religion, by contrast, has been the same over eons."

This is actually the advantage science has over religion. Science can admit when a better explanation comes along. Religion is stuck in a rut, and it stays this way by putting blinders on and not really considering opposing ideas. The religious person's sole reaction to an opposing idea is to formulate objections to it. Science, by contrast, will take a look at a new idea. New ideas are not accepted immediately, and sometimes go through uncomfortably lengthy trial periods before changing its view. But, this is what we want, isn't it?

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Warphead, thanks. See, evolution, despite anyone's feelings, is a religion. It has a set of doctrines, beliefs, etc. There is an enormous amount of evidence that is contrary to evolution
Webmistress, I'm fascinated with the stuff in the bible, but I don't believe it. Evolution isn't a religion, a religion is a set of beliefs that are based on faith alone. If you believe it in, believe in it because you have faith - but if you really think there's a global conspiracy to keep christianity a "myth" then you might be a loony-toon.
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See how wrong the bible is when you are burning in hell.
Right... if there is a hell then I'd rather be there than heaven. Think about this: what EXACTLY would you do in heaven... FOR ETERNITY. Think about your favorite thing in the world to do. Let's say it's play baseball. Ok, so you play baseball all day long for a month. Sick of it yet? Well, you've got about 1,000,000,000+ more YEARS of it, so have fun! Doesn't the bible say something about how excess is bad? Well then why the fuck do you have to stay in heaven for ETERNITY? That would get so boring no matter what you are doing! Just think about it. Even if you did something different every single day, you would get bored! The only thing humans can't get bored of is sleep, like I said in the 2nd post of this thread. When you are sleeping you don't realize that fact, and thus you can't get bored of it. Therefore, when we die, it's probably like sleeping, and never waking up. Just pitch black, with no awareness of the fact we are dead or sleeping. Perhaps that's why we say "rest in peace".



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Well who belives in Dragons here ?
Why are they in so many books then...

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Aussie,

As my daddy used to say:

"Cause' that's the way they wrote them"



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Well who belives in Dragons here ?
Why are they in so many books then...

What about vampires? Every culture has a vampire myth. That's why I eat so much garlic.

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Is it immoral to run a porn site? Is that against the teachings of the bible?

I dont see what the big deal is.
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Why would you want to go to heaven ?
All the really good content, production people and hosts are gonna be in the other place anyway. Who you think is gonna get all the TGP demigods ? Not the old guy with the beard - he just wants you to sit around on a cloud and play a harp.

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Ever wonder what is supposed to happen when, say, a man who remarried after his wife died goes to heaven? Is bigamy allowed in Heaven? I ask, because a man is in trouble in Utah for doing it here on Earth.

Some people envision Heaven as a purely spiritual level, but a lot of people believe Heaven is a place where people are physically present.

Does the food taste good there? And once it is digested, are there toilets in Heaven? And where do the sewers in Heaven go?

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Okay, here are a few questions about heaven.

If a man remarries after his first wife dies, when he gets to heaven, will he be a bigamist or will his second marriage be annulled, or will the first one be annulled?

Some believe that heaven is a purely spiritual plane while others seem to see it as a physical place with physical beings in it. Do these physical beings have physical needs, like food? And if so, are there toilets in heaven, and where does the waste go?

Now, on to free will. What a meaningless concept. What does it mean? We know that our actions come from the brain, and the brain as a physical entity is a deterministic unit obeying physical laws of chemistry and electricity. Where is the freedom in that schema?

If on the other hand you reply that the brain isn't deterministic because of random subatomic events, where is the will in that schema?

There really is no such thing as free will. Whatever we do we were going to do. Freedom of the will is a myth that evaporates as soon as you examine it.

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So if it's MORALLY wrong, then why do it? There are always other ways to make money, and porn doesn't have to be the only way. Sure enough it's easy to some of us, but would you really want your kids to know what you're doing when they ask. Would you want to go with your kids to a show and tell and have them talk about your jobs to all their friends and teacher? I think not! When I have kids, I want them to be proud of me. I think they would rather me having an ordinary job and making ends meet, rather then be wealthy rich and running porn sites for a living.
My Dad has been doing this for years and I am proud of him. Why not be ! I just found out today my wife is pregnant!!!! I'm 22 you know how hard it is trying to finish college. Hold down a job and raise a family. I'm about to find out So If I run a porn site to set money back for my kid's car and college I hope he will understand one day. I dont want a kid who gets picked on in school because we dont have a lot of money. I want HIM (got my fingers crossed) to be able to pull up at school when he is 16 with a new pimp ass car. I want to be able to give him the life he should have. I will make him work and know how to make it in the world , I'm not going to hand him everything. I tell everyone I do network marketing. That's all there teachers and friends need to know. Just my
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