Honeyslut

It's a shame anyone would insult the small businesses, after all that was what this country was built on.

If there was ever a major nuclear war and we lost a large part of this country, people just would not know how to survive and
start over. They would be too busy fighting over crap like this or killing each other for electrical appliances that don't work anymore..

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If you are against our president.. you are not patriotic and hate america...

dig420

Clinton = balanced budget, no deficit

Bush = biggest deficit in history.

You conservatives could fuck up a wet dream.

Honeyslut, nobody has anything against small businesses, the point is that if you're a fuckup, or you're just stupid, you don't deserve to be bailed out when your business inevitably collapses.

SlickRick

I hate Moore and I'm a proud American

dig420

let me guess: you and pathfinder have an underground cabin in the woods and an arms cache.

bhutocracy

LOL.. talk about shooting yourself in the foot.. thats like saying "I wish you guys would brush up on politics - read Michael Moore or Al Franken as a good start"

AcidMax

That could also be because clinton was too busy getting his dick sucked instead of standing up to terrorists like Osama Bin Laden. We are in a deficit because we are at war, however its funny how the economy has been growing for 12 straight months at least.

Don't believe me? http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/op...ists/23173.htm

Yeah democrats never fuck up anything, lets not forget Jimmy Carter. There are good and bad to both parties, and yes I lean conservative on many issues but not all.

Hell Clinton was definitely no killer president thats for sure, but I would take him anyday over John Kerry (if it was only going to be a democrat). The man is a backstabber and he cannot make up his mind on anything.

He loved the military before he hated it.

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bhutocracy

If you want a "good idea", you should read Ann Coulter and Micheal Moore, Sean Hannity and Al Franken, Bill O'Reilly and John Pilger, Rush Limbaugh and Noam Chomsky and much more importantly.. everything in between and then come to some conclusions.

benc

All I know, if Kerry is elected and theres another fake economy like under Clinton, I'm going to take advantage of it better.


The Clinton economy mirage was so good and people wanted it to be so true, that they just didn't see the reality of what was happening.

Html guys making 70k heh.

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bhutocracy

Clinton did more about Osama than Bush did until his hand was forced and he HAD to do something.

AcidMax

How is that shooting myself in the foot?

Sean Hannity is a conservative, Alan Colmes is a liberal. Read about both parties views, that was my point.

Most people around here follow the herd instead of forming their own opinion. Just because we are porn slingers people think we should be democrats. Sorry I love my money too much to let the democrats deal with it. However, there are some things I am liberal about. Too many people are ALL CONSERVATIVE or ALL LIBERAL. Most dont know the difference, and most just want to bash Bush instead of reading about how people like Kennedy (the senator), Daschle, Kerry and others have trully fucked up our great nation.

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bhutocracy

thats just commonsense supply and demand. In the early days they were like specialists, the fact that they don't earn that now has nothing to do with fake economies, it's every idiot studying IT for the last 5 years and a million 20 year olds out looking for html jobs that don't exist.

Tom_PMs

*dumps big bag of grainy salt on this thread*

dig420

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AcidMax

Lobbing a few missles into Afghanistan was sufficient? If so we would have had him and 9-11 might not have happened. I don't think Clinton did more than Bush, I think Bush still would have tackled Al-Qaeda just a little differently then when he was "forced" into it.

I think Clinton was too busy trying to spin the Lewinski shit and get his name in the paper instead of dealing with foreign policy and dealing with terrorist like Al-Qaeda. Just my 2cents.

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benc

To a point that is true, but alot of it was worthless dot com companies were just burning through ipo money with no hope whatsoever of making a profit.

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dig420

Colmes is a bitch liberal hired by Fox to be Hannity's willing oral receptacle, and if you read more you'd know that Clinton's team told Bush's team that Osama was the primary threat against this country, and the incoming administration didn't want to hear anything about it, they wanted to go after pornographers.

TaDoW

wtf? you talk about him like he's the messiah ... is he giving you BJs under the table?

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Alan Colmes is a stooge. He's not even on the radar as a liberal author, the only people that think he is a liberal worth taking notice of are Hannity fans because he's bland centre left.

dig420

9-11 happened under Bush because the Bush administration was clueless about foreign relations, didn't want to take any advice, killed ongoing anti-terrorism programs and left us vulnerable. Tell me if this sounds familiar to you:

BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO ATTACK INSIDE THE UNITED STATES

Do you know where that title comes from?

And Clinton wouldn't have been busy with Lewinski if the conservatives hadn't somehow stretched the whitewater investigation to cover blowjobs in the oval office. That whole investigation was the most blatant, corrupt and partisan abuse of power in my lifetime.

bhutocracy

And yet it's still far more than Bush did until his hand was forced. Obviously Bush wasn't very far into his presidency but you should read into how the Bush team was treating the terrorist threat.. Clinton basically left office saying that terrorism was goingt o be the greatest threat, but Bush sat on policies and recommendations and started building missile defence shields as priorities remember?

bhutocracy

It is pretty funny to blame Clinton for spending so much of his time occupied with the Lewinski matter when it's pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain he would have preffered not being impeached and getting on with things lol. You could just as easily blame the republicans for forcing the administration to focus on Lewinski for so long, but that would be just as stupid.

SuckOnThis

Are you referring to Iraq, homeland security, Halliburton, weapon production, and presidents getting blowjobs?

Or could it be the S & L bailout, the millions funneled to bin laden, and Reagans funeral?

Do tell.

bhutocracy

hey no argument here lol, the company I worked over 3 years for must have gone through at least 50 mil before they folded. It wasn't a stupid dot com though, just mismanaged.

AcidMax

C'mon dig do you really believe that? First off lets look at this. Colmes always has been and always will be a liberal. The fact that he uses his head unlike some hardcore liberals is why many don't like him, but he is a liberal regardless. He uses common sense unlike those staunch liberals or republicans for that matter. Anyone who makes up their mind without hearing the facts is just stupid regardless and many people on both sides of the fence do that.

Secondly Bush was in office for 9 mos when the attack happened. The FBI got a memo from an agent in August 2001. I am sure if he knew there was going to be an attack on the US in September, something would have been done ( i dont doubt this of any president).

I really don't believe that within 9mos a president can be judged on. He has been at war since the 9th month of his presidency, thus spending has been increased due to war, etc. The economy is coming back around and it has been proven. I don't think Bush nor the economy is doing that bad given the situation.

Lets not forget that with all this we also had tax cuts, and wow the economy is in the rebound as well.

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For further debate, check this poll:
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dig420

Colmes is a milquetoast ass, a straw man whose job is to be knocked down every night.

You won't see Hannity trying to take on James Carville or Joe Conason anytime soon.

SuckOnThis

So which is it, you guys say the president doesnt have anything to do with the economy then you say Clintons fake economy. Make up your fucking minds.

AcidMax

Democrats make no apologies for massive government spending. For the government to provide a happy, healthy, shameless, and even exciting society, for everyone, regardless of their personal means, requires a massive amount of cash from the citizens as well as all that can be borrowed. Further, to make sure that no citizen gets into trouble and is in bed each night at a reasonable hour, a huge government staff is a necessity. This, of course, requires every dime the public can spare and just a bit more.


Just for those of you are economists and are talking about when the recession started:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

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man with the balls to speak out

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Stop lying:

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Colmes is a strawman for the right.. a toothless tiger.

Head

Ya... can't wait for farenheit 911 to come out!

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I think he makes some very legit points, aside from whether he is motivated by money at the end of the day.

I am not about to put myself in the danger zone on this board, but all I will say is that it is possible that the US is not the "great" place a lot of people think it is.

Problem is, by saying anything negative in the supposed "free thought society", typical responses include, "Move to Cuba then....etc..."

I am out.

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jukeboxfrank

I am tired of all the bullshit from the left and the right......
too bad most people dont think for themselves.

Joe Citizen

I think you'll find the people that are usually on here screaming about how the USA is the best country and the best place in the world to live have never actually been out of their own country.

Cory W

You can't say anything these days brother!

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Cory W

I have traveled pretty extensively man...I could not agree with you more.

Go to other countries, third world nations, see the world in its rawest format and how US politics effects everyone, then....

But those people in other countries say one word, and all you get is, "they would not eat if it was not for the US....etc"

All that comes from a country that built a portion of its economy from slavery! But the current peoples were not a part of that, for it is history, but somehow those peoples were a part of all the past fighting that freed every damn nation in the world LOL

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dig420

your spending theory already got blown out of the water, so now I'll blow your 'no citizen gets into trouble' theory.

Democrats don't give a fuck what you do as long as you don't hurt anyone else. It's the fucking conservatives who want to tell women they can't have abortions, who want to ban Huck Finn and other 'subversive' literature, who want to make you get down on your knees and pray, who want to kill anyone who disrespects the flag, who want to curtail freedom of speech and allow the government to come search your house with no warrant and I could go on and on. I bet you don't convert to democrat though, even after you've just been shown that what you want is the exact opposite of what the conservatives actually DO when they get the chance. Why? Because anyone who can't see these things for themselves is incapable of learning any better. You're too easily propagandized and the republicans are the propaganda and disinformation experts. They rely on people like you. I bet you think John Kerry is a 'flip-flopper' right? Straight from Karl Rove's memo pad to your brain. You should be ashamed.

Also the Washington Post should NOT be confused with a credible news organization. It's owned by the Moonies and they march in lockstep with the conservatives.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon.html -- there's some info if you care to learn something, which I doubt.

Trixie Racer

Thanks for the link. Before posting I called a friend and shared the URL. He's viewing the trailers now.

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Ironhorse

That's it dude, I declare Jihad on you. Keep an eye out for JumboJets heading for your building

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Ironhorse

Basic supply and demand foolio, at that time there weren't enough folks to fill available jobs.

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Yes, they are good and juicy too

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This is so interesting!

Corleone

Vote4Kerry

SuckOnThis

What you said is so fucking true and obvious. Yet for some reason there is no way to get through to these people, they are totally brainwashed that democrats are the evil ones. Thats why I say republicans are against what America stands for, to me America's roots are based on freedom and opportunity, but they are all for taking away rights in the name of security, they are the ones that want to put pot smokers in prison, they want to limit opportunity to the common person. Fucking Bush signed a law when he was governor of Texas that made anal sex illegal, that borders more of a Saudi Arabia type society than what this country is about. Fuck them and the camel they rode in on.

candyflip

Their own country? I wouldn't be surprised if some of them haven't even left their own state.

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Mike AI

I hate to break it to you Cory, does not matter who the President is, the US is still the best place to live. I know it will pain a lot of non-Americans, but is a fact. The US has tons of flaws and for awhile have been heading in the wrong direction on some issues, but there is no other nation that has every the US has.

And yes I have been outside the State of Florida!!!

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Why would you say something like that!? Not everyone has the same priorities... What makes the US undeniably the best place to live..?

Face (o_0)

wow... thats awesome... i can't wait to see this movie

you're right, he is getting a peice of his own medecin

ever since i saw bowling for columbine , i knew this guy was anti-american (or anti-bush)


i can't wait to see this movie