Any TGP owners out there mind if I just 404 100 or so galleries? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Keyser Soze
Well it sounds like its sponsor content then it won´t be a possiblity.

Pretty much yep.

mailman · 06-09-2004, 06:25 PM

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
Take it from someone that has also had to pull links from a sponsor that went belly up...and had over 2 years of galleries out there..changing the links does work. And I'm not aware of a single blacklist.

The gallery remains identical...only the sponsor link has changed. The surfer gets to see the same gallery, and the TGP owner doesn't have some of his pages going off into 404 land.

Uh.. Wouldn't that be kind of like selling apples using oranges for promotion? Unfortunately it's not possible in this case.

onlymovies · 06-09-2004, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Fluid of Fuck Me
How fucking productive is it to stay quite while being ripped off? Is it productive that we all just let sponsors away with shit like this?

That is truly a funny statement especially when you have NO idea which sponsor is in question..lol. So tell me something, how productive are we now???? What did you gain here?

Unless they mentioned what sponsor is doing this which i didn't see. If so, i retract my statement.

Sorry to hear about this Jact. It does sound very weird. Hope it works out for the better.

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by mailman
THIS IS CRAZY! I KNOW WHAT SPONSOR IT IS AND THEY CAN SUCK MY NUTS YOU DIRTY BITCHES!

I'm sensing some angst here, man. This is just a discussion! :P

mailman · 06-09-2004, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
I'm sensing some angst here, man. This is just a discussion! :P

i just wanna be cool with you

Fluid of Fuck Me · 06-09-2004, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
Take it from someone that has also had to pull links from a sponsor that went belly up...and had over 2 years of galleries out there..changing the links does work. And I'm not aware of a single blacklist.

The gallery remains identical...only the sponsor link has changed. The surfer gets to see the same gallery, and the TGP owner doesn't have some of his pages going off into 404 land.

I use comus and it catches people changing links. Unless both link codes are the same number of characters it changes the size of the html file, and then you're caught.

And some scripts check the files modification date. That's the other way it could catch you.

jact · 06-09-2004, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by onlymovies
That is truly a funny statement especially when you have NO idea which sponsor is in question..lol. So tell me something, how productive are we now???? What did you gain here?

Unless they mentioned what sponsor is doing this which i didn't see. If so, i retract my statement.

Sorry to hear about this Jact. It does sound very wierd. Hope it works out for the better.

Believe me, we all want to see it put to rest, I have honestly never heard of a situtation like this, and I'm seriously rethinking how we do business.

XxXotic · 06-09-2004, 06:27 PM

my has this thread grown. damn me for eating dinner

Fluid of Fuck Me · 06-09-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by onlymovies
That is truly a funny statement especially when you have NO idea which sponsor is in question..lol. So tell me something, how productive are we now???? What did you gain here?

I have no idea? Interesting.

ok, fucktard...question
since you're a clueless nobody, do ya not think that maybe, just maybe you don't have a fucking clue who in the group of people they do business with knows what?

now, until you actually KNOW something, shut the fuck up.

BarneyRubble · 06-09-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by AbulletAwayGoneBad
I wasn't trying to make fun of the way that you speak. Just the way you phrased it. And, also this board is called "Go Fuck Yourself". People can be very harsh here. It's kinda the whole point to the board.

Yes I know that, but I just thought the discussion would be a little more serious in some threads?

AbulletAway · 06-09-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
my has this thread grown. damn me for eating dinner

Welcome back, hope it was good dinner you big meanie!!!

asuna · 06-09-2004, 06:32 PM

I read every post in this thread, not that many people do it, even tho everyone gave different options, I think you already know what you're going to do, and I highly doubt TGP owners will blacklist you if they know your current situation.

The only thing that sucks is the money wasted on the spots that were bought.

AbulletAway · 06-09-2004, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
Yes I know that, but I just thought the discussion would be a little more serious in some threads?

That's a common mistake here. Sure it has happened, I've heard, but it's very rare.

Juicy D. Links · 06-09-2004, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by jact
Did I mention that after we 404 all of these galleries, they still want us to promote them and be happy doing so?

damn best of luck hope you dont get screwed

onlymovies · 06-09-2004, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Fluid of Fuck Me
I have no idea? Interesting.

ok, fucktard...question
since you're a clueless nobody, do ya not think that maybe, just maybe you don't have a fucking clue who in the group of people they do business with knows what?

now, until you actually KNOW something, shut the fuck up.

omg...hhaha..didn't think so. Thanks for the laughs..

49thParallel · 06-09-2004, 06:34 PM

Anyhow...with creative marketing on a FPA, it's easy to offer an alternative solution to the surfer and stay completely honest. You don't send them directly to another sponsor with the existing creative. That IS dishonest, as you are showing content that might not be available at the other sponsor's site.

And, in closing...if you are already sending a note out to all of the TGP owners...why not tell them that you are changing the link...
That way they don't have to contend with your 404's...and you still have all of your galleries producing sales...albeit, probably dramatically reduced.

But, I have my own business to contend to...so figuring out the rest is up to you.

And this is where my suggestions end.

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
I read every post in this thread, not that many people do it, even tho everyone gave different options, I think you already know what you're going to do, and I highly doubt TGP owners will blacklist you if they know your current situation.

The only thing that sucks is the money wasted on the spots that were bought.

Oh this isn't even taking into account the paid spots that were used for this sponsor.. these are straight up partner accounts that would be threatened. And it's more than that. The whole thing is happening on FALSE pretenses.

BarneyRubble · 06-09-2004, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Fluid of Fuck Me
I have no idea? Interesting.

ok, fucktard...question
since you're a clueless nobody, do ya not think that maybe, just maybe you don't have a fucking clue who in the group of people they do business with knows what?

now, until you actually KNOW something, shut the fuck up.

I am certainly glad I am not in business with alot of the people here. You mostly sound like a bunch of schoolchildren who just learned how to cuss, and think it is the "cool" thing to to.

I know this board is called Go Fuck Yourself, but what is the point of having a board where everybody just comes and says FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER, SUC MY DICK, SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE, HEY FUCK TARD, and then goes home?

tranza · 06-09-2004, 06:37 PM

Just a question, does this sponsor post here?

Does he know about this thread and what everybody is talking about them?

You could use this in your favor...

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
I am certainly glad I am not in business with alot of the people here. You mostly sound like a bunch of schoolchildren who just learned how to cuss, and think it is the "cool" thing to to.

I know this board is called Go Fuck Yourself, but what is the point of having a board where everybody just comes and says FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER, SUC MY DICK, SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE, HEY FUCK TARD, and then goes home?

You are adorable. In quebec right?

XxXotic · 06-09-2004, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by AbulletAwayGoneBad
Welcome back, hope it was good dinner you big meanie!!!

dinner was fantastic, especially since I didn't have to beg for it

yes this sponsor posts here tranza

Fluid of Fuck Me · 06-09-2004, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by onlymovies
omg...hhaha..didn't think so. Thanks for the laughs..

anyone know who this no0b is?

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
Just a question, does this sponsor post here?

Does he know about this thread and what everybody is talking about them?

You could use this in your favor...

jact · 06-09-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
Just a question, does this sponsor post here?

Does he know about this thread and what everybody is talking about them?

You could use this in your favor...

Yes, they do, but our rep has a life, so I doubt he's seen this thread. Just like it took him 7 days to get back to us

Fluid of Fuck Me · 06-09-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
I am certainly glad I am not in business with alot of the people here. You mostly sound like a bunch of schoolchildren who just learned how to cuss, and think it is the "cool" thing to to.

I know this board is called Go Fuck Yourself, but what is the point of having a board where everybody just comes and says FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER, SUC MY DICK, SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE, HEY FUCK TARD, and then goes home?

I don't generally do business with people I don't know, so that wouldn't be an option. If you make it through this year, you might actually understand this board is the sand trap of the adult webmaster golf course.

XxXotic · 06-09-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
I am certainly glad I am not in business with alot of the people here. You mostly sound like a bunch of schoolchildren who just learned how to cuss, and think it is the "cool" thing to to.

I know this board is called Go Fuck Yourself, but what is the point of having a board where everybody just comes and says FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER, SUC MY DICK, SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE, HEY FUCK TARD, and then goes home?

whats your point? you make assumptions about shit you have NO clue about and expect people to pat you on the back and be nice?

There are a few of us in this thread that KNOW the who, what, when, where and why's of this situation

BarneyRubble · 06-09-2004, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Fluid of Fuck Me
anyone know who this no0b is?

If you really did TGP and MGP, you would know that Only Movies Is not any newbie

AbulletAway · 06-09-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
dinner was fantastic, especially since I didn't have to beg for it

yes this sponsor posts here tranza

jact · 06-09-2004, 06:42 PM

Okay, I've learned what I needed to learn from this thread.

I hope our sales rep reads this thread, I want to impress upon them what kind of mistake it would be for us to 404 these galleries.

I'm going to crack a beer and have a nice relaxing evening as I'm sure tomorrow's going to be hella stressful.

InsaneMidget · 06-09-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
I am certainly glad I am not in business with alot of the people here. You mostly sound like a bunch of schoolchildren who just learned how to cuss, and think it is the "cool" thing to to.

I know this board is called Go Fuck Yourself, but what is the point of having a board where everybody just comes and says FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER, SUC MY DICK, SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE, HEY FUCK TARD, and then goes home?

Shut the fuck up please. Better?

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by Fluid of Fuck Me
you might actually understand this board is the sand trap of the adult webmaster golf course.

ahhaha that is SO true!!

emmanuelle · 06-09-2004, 06:43 PM

It wouldnt happen to have anything to do with the matrix/vivid situation would it?

XxXotic · 06-09-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by jact
Okay, I've learned what I needed to learn from this thread.

I hope our sales rep reads this thread, I want to impress upon them what kind of mistake it would be for us to 404 these galleries.

I'm going to crack a beer and have a nice relaxing evening as I'm sure tomorrow's going to be hella stressful.

dont forget we still need to cyber, you owe me

onlymovies · 06-09-2004, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Fluid of Fuck Me
anyone know who this no0b is?

hahaha...I see your climbing the n00b latter here on GFY.
Thanks for the laughs again...your on a roll!

jact · 06-09-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by emmanuelle
It wouldnt happen to have anything to do with the matrix/vivid situation would it?

No, if it was an issue of copyright infringement I wouldn't have an issue. But we have infringed on nothing, we used their content under their guidelines.

BarneyRubble · 06-09-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic

There are a few of us in this thread that KNOW the who, what, when, where and why's of this situation

If this was meant to be a private discussion amongst "people who KNOW", then why the fuck is it brought into a public forum?

Use ICQ man!

>> whats your point? you make assumptions about shit you have NO clue about and expect people to pat you on the back and be nice?

Where did I ever ask for any pat on the back? Please refresh my memory, as I seem to forgot

I am only telling what I think is what they need to be doing, and already at least 4 people have picked fights with me. That is fucked up. Really fucked up.

jact · 06-09-2004, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
And you are welcome for the suggestions...but I'll leave you all to go back to bashing each other.

And I will go back to my normal stance of pointing out that most adult programs are borderline fraudelent and simply modern day snake oil salesmen.

On that note, Lady Mischief and Jact...did this sponsor use the normal tricks...like cheap trials that need to be cancelled 24 hours before end of trial, or else the surfer gets rebilled at full membership prices. Or the other favourite, adding a few cross-sells that also need to be cancelled...again 24 hours before end of trial..or else the surfer then has 2 or 3 more FULL PRICE memberships to contend to.

I am guessing that the above is true. Very few straight forward, honest programs will convert in the manner you have indicated.

If so, then here is where the sympathy dies. Screwing the consumer?...then take your lumps...

I don't think they did, but honestly, I didn't check the site without my popup blocker off and didn't join myself. I will look into it though.

49thParallel · 06-09-2004, 06:47 PM

And you are welcome for the suggestions...but I'll leave you all to go back to bashing each other.

And I will go back to my normal stance of pointing out that most adult programs are borderline fraudelent and simply modern day snake oil salesmen.

On that note, Lady Mischief and Jact...did this sponsor use the normal tricks...like cheap trials that need to be cancelled 24 hours before end of trial, or else the surfer gets rebilled at full membership prices. Or the other favourite, adding a few cross-sells that also need to be cancelled...again 24 hours before end of trial..or else the surfer then has 2 or 3 more FULL PRICE memberships to contend to.

I am guessing that the above is true. Very few straight forward, honest programs will convert in the manner you have indicated.

If so, then here is where the sympathy dies. Screwing the consumer?...then take your lumps...

BarneyRubble · 06-09-2004, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by InsaneMidget
Shut the fuck up please. Better?

Yes much better!

Merci beaucoup mon estee!

Fluid of Fuck Me · 06-09-2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
If you really did TGP and MGP, you would know that Only Movies Is not any newbie

umm..dude?
there's like 10 people in this thread who know what they're talking about. You and him, didn't make the list sowwy.
Now do as the VAST majority of people here told you to do, and shut the fuck up. You're looking like a moron

jimmyf · 06-09-2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by jact
Did I mention that after we 404 all of these galleries, they still want us to promote them and be happy doing so?

Now that's just dam crazy, what kind of ignoramus's are you dealing with ?

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
And you are welcome for the suggestions...but I'll leave you all to go back to bashing each other.

And I will go back to my normal stance of pointing out that most adult programs are borderline fraudelent and simply modern day snake oil salesmen.

On that note, Lady Mischief and Jact...did this sponsor use the normal tricks...like cheap trials that need to be cancelled 24 hours before end of trial, or else the surfer gets rebilled at full membership prices. Or the other favourite, adding a few cross-sells that also need to be cancelled...again 24 hours before end of trial..or else the surfer then has 2 or 3 more FULL PRICE memberships to contend to.

I am guessing that the above is true. Very few straight forward, honest programs will convert in the manner you have indicated.

If so, then here is where the sympathy dies. Screwing the consumer?...then take your lumps...

I don't think you realize you are double posting. Thanks again btw

XxXotic · 06-09-2004, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
If this was meant to be a private discussion amongst "people who KNOW", then why the fuck is it brought into a public forum?

Use ICQ man!

the whole point is for the sponsor (who knows who they are) to see this and see how bad they just shot themselves in the foot. Of course, being clueless you'd never think of this yourself so it needs to be pointed out to you. This is GFY, try to keep up

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>> whats your point? you make assumptions about shit you have NO clue about and expect people to pat you on the back and be nice?

Where did I ever ask for any pat on the back? Please refresh my memory, as I seem to forgot
I am only telling what I think is what they need to be doing, and already at least 4 people have picked fights with me. That is fucked up. Really fucked up.

welcome to GFY

LadyMischief · 06-09-2004, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
Yes much better!

Merci beaucoup mon estee!

Midget's actually very cute and cuddly, you know.

BarneyRubble · 06-09-2004, 06:51 PM

Thank you for the welcome (I think)

Now please direct me to where I can get a helmet and jockstrap if you may be so kind?

slapass · 06-09-2004, 06:51 PM

I assume there is more to the story. the sponsor has some BS issue or they woul dnot feel so easy in pushing it down stream to you. the content is not properly licensed or soemthing like that. I am guessing.

But if that is the case can they give you content to just replace the old stuff with? You could let the owners know and just upload the new pics. Sure the gallery might be sort of "off" but better then 404 ing their shit.

If the site switched out of their system you could jsut make a deal directly with the site. Iamsure you have thought of all of this but 404 seems like the worst way to do it.

InsaneMidget · 06-09-2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by BarneyRubble
Yes much better!

Merci beaucoup mon estee!

Allez-vous -en

Fluid of Fuck Me · 06-09-2004, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by onlymovies
hahaha...I see your climbing the n00b latter here on GFY.
Thanks for the laughs again...your on a roll!

umm..lets see. I'm a noob now? Now you're proving you're an idiot. For the record pissant, I knew who the sponsor was all along while you were showing your grasp of things.

Now..lets see you press the n00b thing here, I enjoy watching morons in motion.

BarneyRubble · 06-09-2004, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Midget's actually very cute and cuddly, you know.

I'll take your word for it

BTW, Yes I am from Quebec. Boy does this forum ever move fast!
I have not even had time to check the other threads

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49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	Anyhow...with creative marketing on a FPA, it's easy to offer an alternative solution to the surfer and stay completely honest. You don't send them directly to another sponsor with the existing creative. That IS dishonest, as you are showing content that might not be available at the other sponsor's site. And, in closing...if you are already sending a note out to all of the TGP owners...why not tell them that you are changing the link... That way they don't have to contend with your 404's...and you still have all of your galleries producing sales...albeit, probably dramatically reduced. But, I have my own business to contend to...so figuring out the rest is up to you. And this is where my suggestions end. Last edited by 49thParallel; 06-09-2004 at 06:36 PM..

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jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Okay, I've learned what I needed to learn from this thread. I hope our sales rep reads this thread, I want to impress upon them what kind of mistake it would be for us to 404 these galleries. I'm going to crack a beer and have a nice relaxing evening as I'm sure tomorrow's going to be hella stressful. __________________ Free agent

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49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	And you are welcome for the suggestions...but I'll leave you all to go back to bashing each other. And I will go back to my normal stance of pointing out that most adult programs are borderline fraudelent and simply modern day snake oil salesmen. On that note, Lady Mischief and Jact...did this sponsor use the normal tricks...like cheap trials that need to be cancelled 24 hours before end of trial, or else the surfer gets rebilled at full membership prices. Or the other favourite, adding a few cross-sells that also need to be cancelled...again 24 hours before end of trial..or else the surfer then has 2 or 3 more FULL PRICE memberships to contend to. I am guessing that the above is true. Very few straight forward, honest programs will convert in the manner you have indicated. If so, then here is where the sympathy dies. Screwing the consumer?...then take your lumps...

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	I assume there is more to the story. the sponsor has some BS issue or they woul dnot feel so easy in pushing it down stream to you. the content is not properly licensed or soemthing like that. I am guessing. But if that is the case can they give you content to just replace the old stuff with? You could let the owners know and just upload the new pics. Sure the gallery might be sort of "off" but better then 404 ing their shit. If the site switched out of their system you could jsut make a deal directly with the site. Iamsure you have thought of all of this but 404 seems like the worst way to do it.