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Old 06-08-2004, 01:00 AM   #1
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Building a Paysite is harder than you think!

Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:03 AM   #2
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no shit sherlock...
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:04 AM   #3
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no shit sherlock...
your design for the studio cash logo looks SOLID!! great work

who's the designer?
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:14 AM   #4
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now comes the traffic part.. be prepared
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:15 AM   #5
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now comes the traffic part.. be prepared

looking at your sig maybe you can help me with that when all my sites are up and running
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:16 AM   #6
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I do it all the time...

BUT!

Learning how to write my own scripts for the members area management has been priceless. Actually considered selling them to other paysite owners.
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:19 AM   #7
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That was the easy part, now get ready for the real work.
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:21 AM   #8
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That was the easy part, now get ready for the real work.
easy but a Big time consumer
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:34 AM   #9
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That's just the grunt work. More time goes in to planning, bumpin gums to your connections, etc.
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Old 06-08-2004, 01:54 AM   #10
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getting good affiliates and promoting your site will probably be harder
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Old 06-08-2004, 02:38 AM   #11
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Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
Yep, too much work.... go play with lego's
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Old 06-08-2004, 02:40 AM   #12
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Yep, too much work.... go play with lego's
LMAO good point!
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Old 06-08-2004, 02:42 AM   #13
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Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
wait til you have the fun of affiliates who'll try to card you, then run to the boards crying about what a piece of shit you are when you can them......and of course the guys who send you 300 clicks and scream about you shaving them becuase they didn't get 5 signups out of it....

the fun is over, the work begins, hehehe
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Old 06-08-2004, 02:52 AM   #14
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Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
Paysites are very time intensive.. there is a ton of little things that always seem to need doing.
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Old 06-08-2004, 02:55 AM   #15
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getting good affiliates and promoting your site will probably be harder
Thats the easy part to me. the design and scriping is what does me in
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Old 06-08-2004, 03:40 AM   #16
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That's what I thought
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Old 06-08-2004, 03:42 AM   #17
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Old 06-08-2004, 03:44 AM   #18
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Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....

It takes about 2 weeks from scratch....
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Old 06-08-2004, 03:56 AM   #19
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Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....

It's one of the biggest things in the online adult business. A paid site, make big money. It's like a dream.

But you need to work for it, it cost you lots of money to set it up. Not everyone who owns a paysite is rich. The hard part comes after the setup, get traffic, affiliates, make sales. Most paysites owners drop there site after a couple of months some try to sell it.

I think you need to be atleast 2 years in the business to get a '' good '' paysite started. And i'm not talking about a tgp owner who runned a tgp with 5k traffic daily for 2 years long. You really need to have some mad business skillz to set one up. Buying a bulk content deal isnt enough.

Just my

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Old 06-08-2004, 04:14 AM   #20
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nah dont do paysites its not worth it just send the traffic to dutchteenamateurs.com
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:20 AM   #21
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try to do AVS
or Promote my AVS site Great Ratio
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:35 AM   #22
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looking at your sig maybe you can help me with that when all my sites are up and running
I know a thing or 2 about filtering traffic yes...
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:39 AM   #23
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It takes about 2 weeks from scratch....
remind me to never use one of your paysites it takes much longer than 2 weeks lol
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:45 AM   #24
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Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
I hear ya.
I have been working on one for awhile now.
But I am very fussy so I am never satisfied with the look so I end up redoing it over and over agian.
Someday I may even finish it...

Good luck to you.
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I can only imagine how hard it would be, running a paysite is on my list for the distant future.
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We can do that for ya if ya want. check out www.designermasters.com we make quality paysites. 1 warning page, 1 main page, 2 tour page, 1 join page 10 static banners and 10 Tgp Galleries for only $499 hit us up on iCQ or email [email protected]
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:58 AM   #27
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this would be why it's called W-O-R-K ...try doing it for more than one

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Old 06-08-2004, 09:01 AM   #28
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you can always refer this work to an expert Designer in the bizz, like www.adultoutsourcing.com

worry about saving $$$ and start counting your Sales.

Hit me up for more details, see sig
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Old 06-08-2004, 09:44 AM   #29
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just got it myself

it does all the resizing (2 sizes), watermarking, thumbnailing and gallery building for you

jus zip the sets up and upload them....

i just built paysite over the weekend, took me 10 hours of design and 5 hours of uploading...and it is done
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Old 06-08-2004, 10:06 AM   #31
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Damn...I didn't realize how much time it takes to build a paysite...it looks easy but it takes up alot of time...from designing the site, optimizing all the photosets, resizing all the photosets, thumbnailing all the photosets, creating galleries for affiliates, organizing all the content, zipping photosets for galleries, etc....
Resizing and thumbnailing only takes seconds if you use Linux. Use Bash scripting and GD.
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Old 06-08-2004, 10:25 AM   #32
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one thing i dont understand, the thumbs for most paysites are utter crap compared to what tgps/mgps use. The same effort should be put into thumbs on the inside of the paysite.
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Old 06-08-2004, 10:35 AM   #33
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remind me to never use one of your paysites it takes much longer than 2 weeks lol
Hit me up on ICQ and I'll show you our skills...
Not everybody is a DickHead over here....
See my post count... that's because I work all day on my
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Hit me up on ICQ and I'll show you our skills...
Not everybody is a DickHead over here....
See my post count... that's because I work all day on my
paysites instead of posting here
With all the respect, post count doesnt matter. I know you quite well you are a hardworking guy with a great team. But still i think 2 weeks for a paysite is pretty quick. It takes me up to 3 months to build a good one.


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With all the respect, post count doesnt matter. I know you quite well you are a hardworking guy with a great team. But still i think 2 weeks for a paysite is pretty quick. It takes me up to 3 months to build a good one.



Dude I'll show you our project we started june 1st and what we have done so far... we will talk in a few min okay
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Dude I'll show you our project we started june 1st and what we have done so far... we will talk in a few min okay
The testingperiods take more then 1 month of work.
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Not everybody is a DickHead over here....
See my post count... that's because I work all day on my
paysites instead of posting here
I own quite a few paysites..I would like to see you get the processing in place in 2 weeks ..let alone getting the site done!

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I own quite a few paysites..I would like to see you get the processing in place in 2 weeks ..let alone getting the site done!

I'll show you get intouch with me on icq..
Tomorrow I'm now off to bed ;)
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BUT!

Learning how to write my own scripts for the members area management has been priceless. Actually considered selling them to other paysite owners.
Hey I would be interested in this script. 140722159 Give me a shout bro.
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Old 06-08-2004, 08:09 PM   #41
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We can do that for ya if ya want. check out www.designermasters.com we make quality paysites. 1 warning page, 1 main page, 2 tour page, 1 join page 10 static banners and 10 Tgp Galleries for only $499 hit us up on iCQ or email [email protected]
prostock...

That is not a pay site... What about all the other pages? He is talking about building the entire site... Hell there are 16 + pages in my site pineapplepink.com and that is just the free area! Then you start on the members area... hundreds of pages if the site is done right, with a alphabetical model directory, on top of the main catagories and recent up dates page... Member retention comes from the heart of the site, so it has to be good! If someone says they can do it all in two weeks... LOL Man it took longer than that to get the legal crap approved...

I would be willing to bet that 90% + of the websites out there don't comply with the laws... Which leaves them wide open to be screw with by law enforcement... Just my

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Old 06-08-2004, 08:17 PM   #42
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It's definatley not easy. Add filming content to the list and your free time dissapears. It takes me about 40 hours to run site properly and we are building 5 more. Needless to say I had to hire a full time staff of people. I find that updates and keeping affiliates happy are the two hardest, yet twop most important things. Without them you're fudged. 1/2 my time goes into just that.
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Hehe, funny reading this thread....

The longest process for us is shooting the content and then processing the video. We can shoot and get online about 2 full series a day (videos/pictures/trailers)

To build a paysite front end and back-end (after we have the video content) it takes about 1 week. Most of this time is upload time. 2 days to put it all together.

It takes me 10 minutes (or 1 hour a week) to update our sites. This includes the new pages for new girls.

I have one person that shoots and process video and an admin. The rest of my staff doesn't work on our paysite side of the business.

It takes about 25 hours a week total to do updates, process updates, webmaster and customer support, update tours, hosted galleries/banners/content, promotion of the program and self promotion of the sites.

I out source hosted galleries, some design work, banners, and about anything else that takes to much time.
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