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Old 05-07-2004, 11:59 PM   #1
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Should RUSSIA be DISCONNECTED from the NET?

I mean, with all the bullshit CP, Virii, Exploits, Fraud, Carders, spam, hacks, you fucking name it, coming out of Russia and the Federation countries, shouldn't this be done?

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Old 05-08-2004, 12:22 AM   #2
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i concur. i'd love to get a list of IP's to .htacess out that whole end of the planet.

anyone got one?
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:23 AM   #3
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i concur. i'd love to get a list of IP's to .htacess out that whole end of the planet.

anyone got one?
go google for geoip or something.
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:24 AM   #4
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i concur. i'd love to get a list of IP's to .htacess out that whole end of the planet.

anyone got one?
Good move. Wise move.

Just follow the example of many of the large/medium sized proggies out there that REDIRECT based on IP.

Anything Russian, ends with 'stan, and other countries= redirect to a DIALER


Also, be careful of those russian proxies
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:24 AM   #5
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I mean, with all the bullshit CP, Virii, Exploits, Fraud, Carders, spam, hacks, you fucking name it, coming out of Russia and the Federation countries, shouldn't this be done?
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:26 AM   #7
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Why not? Instead of namecalling, spell out your REASONS for believing the Russia doesn't do the crap I posted earlier?

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Old 05-08-2004, 12:27 AM   #8
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No matter how much shit comes out of those countries I guarentee more comes out of the US.
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:30 AM   #9
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These thread is kinda ignorant,I think the US should get capped of the net because it got so many ignorant people

In russia mostly only students or criminals have internet access,that should explain some things,but nowdays more and more people have internet there.

Just redirect them to other sites if you are scared that they'll do fraudulent things and that's it.
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:34 AM   #10
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dont make the russians your enemies, make them your friends . Yes alot of russians spam,hack,card, and packet. For what reason i dont know, maybe its for money, maybe its for fun.
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:34 AM   #11
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No matter how much shit comes out of those countries I guarentee more comes out of the US.
It's called PER CAPITA STATISTICS, Slappy.

Sure, in terms of absolute numbers, there's more crap from the US but there's TONS more people who can afford Internet access in the US. However, if you do a per capita statistical breakdown,
there's more CRAP done with .RU internet connections than anywhere else.


Someone made a good point earlier, the population using the Internet in Russia tend to either be students or criminals, that's why increasingly no one would trust them.
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:36 AM   #12
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No matter how much shit comes out of those countries I guarentee more comes out of the US.
go buy a clue. i've been hacked BAD twice in four years (lots of other minor shit) both times it was a "dialup.ru" IP addy.

you think there was a pimply-faced kid at M.I.T. who decided to bypass his T-3 connection to use a 33.6k dialup proxy to mask his identity? lol

what's REALLY fuct is that the poor S.O.B. is having to hack on a dialup account. that's really fucking sad. makes me feel sorry for them for a milisecond.
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We got two clients in Russia who are as good as gold and buy a lot.

And the only time I get turned over or have content pirated it's by someone in the US, usually a kid.

Live with it.
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I have been seriously considering sending anything Russian, Korean, Chinese to a 404 page.
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I have been seriously considering sending anything Russian, Korean, Chinese to a 404 page.
i actually do it
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I have been seriously considering sending anything Russian, Korean, Chinese to a 404 page.
Pretty much worthless traffic. Except for Korean traffic. Send them to a Korean dialer -- many pr0n buyers in .ko
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what is the outcome of doing this?
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Any chance you'd share the .htaccess entry you do this with?
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it's business to me.. i really couldn't care less what some fucknut in russia is doing, if some of them have creditcards then i wouldn't want to block them.


Next question... now really, how many sales do you guys get from russia? I dont think i've ever seen ONE!
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It's only a matter of time before the internet is broken up into different zones around the world. Each country will have it's own reasons for supporting this.

A world that becomes more dependant upon the internet helps the move towards globalization, and the western world won't allow this.

Then you've got China, who thinks American's should be arrested for putting certain things online. There are other countries with similar beliefs including Germany and France. American tourist is nabbed at the airport for what he printed online? It'll happen.

Aarab nations will likely have access only to the middle eastern internet.

etc....

I think we could start to see this within the next decade.
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I mean, with all the bullshit CP, Virii, Exploits, Fraud, Carders, spam, hacks, you fucking name it, coming out of Russia and the Federation countries, shouldn't this be done?

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can i disconnect you for posting useless crap all day everyday? your getting on my nerves
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how many sales do you guys get from russia? I dont think i've ever seen ONE!
Even if you see one it will be followed closely by a chargeback
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Use your real nick, you spineless douchebag
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I mean, with all the bullshit CP, Virii, Exploits, Fraud, Carders, spam, hacks, you fucking name it, coming out of Russia and the Federation countries, shouldn't this be done?
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get rid of the US while you're at it, all we contribute to the net is pop up ads, email spam, and fucking porn
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I mean, with all the bullshit CP, Virii, Exploits, Fraud, Carders, spam, hacks, you fucking name it, coming out of Russia and the Federation countries, shouldn't this be done?

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What? There must be at least 5 honest russkies in that whole country..
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What? There must be at least 5 honest russkies in that whole country..
LOL and they all moved to Finland.
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Whatsup, Russkie Troller

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go buy a clue. i've been hacked BAD twice in four years (lots of other minor shit) both times it was a "dialup.ru" IP addy.

you think there was a pimply-faced kid at M.I.T. who decided to bypass his T-3 connection to use a 33.6k dialup proxy to mask his identity? lol

what's REALLY fuct is that the poor S.O.B. is having to hack on a dialup account. that's really fucking sad. makes me feel sorry for them for a milisecond.
Blah, anyone with half a brain cell, a 2400 baud modem and what is thrown out on garbage day can hack a network to its knees.

Prime example, and on topic, in 1995 a Russian named Vladimir Levin hacked Citibank for over $10 million U.S.D. and did it with an IBM compatable computer and a 14.4 modem.

Really, if you want to blame countries for hacking, put the Asian countries at the top of the list, China and the Koreas are a royal pain in the ass. The only way they see my non-porn networks is via a U.S. proxy, and yes, I probably should IP filter the traffic and send them to a porn 404 just to stop that traffic altogether.
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i concur. i'd love to get a list of IP's to .htacess out that whole end of the planet.

anyone got one?
Nice idea, lets start banning russia
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Im a firm believer that ALL traffic can be made to be good traffic.
How? How do you convert crap russian traffic or worse, fake russian proxy traffic into "good" traffic?
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People are people... there are good and bad everywhere...

Don't judge people by where they're from...

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How? How do you convert crap russian traffic or worse, fake russian proxy traffic into "good" traffic?
Send them to a toplist or traffic exchange for a fresh paying surfer if you have to. Use them for banner impressions.
There are ways. They dont need to have a credit card all the time.
Fuck, send them to a page with hacker banners or something.
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How? How do you convert crap russian traffic or worse, fake russian proxy traffic into "good" traffic?
Redirect them and use them as trades
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Russians produce child porn and Americans buy it by the truck load LOL
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U can't disconect whole russia couse of some bad ppl...
Just learn how to live with that,i perosnally have couple great russian buyers
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BAN THE PLANET!!!

who's got some IP ranges for .htacess?
(china, korea, russia)

put up or shut up!!!
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Yea maybe you are right but how to you plan to do that and btw all those problems that you mention comes from all part of the world including US too
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ISPs could filter out all Russian content and users and it would not be a loss. Name one Russian website that's worth visiting.
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These thread is kinda ignorant,I think the US should get capped of the net because it got so many ignorant people

In russia mostly only students or criminals have internet access,that should explain some things,but nowdays more and more people have internet there.

Just redirect them to other sites if you are scared that they'll do fraudulent things and that's it.
I couldn't agree more....
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Through the magic of VPN, many russkie hackers/frauds/carders easily assume US proxies and wreak their havoc.

Ingenious bastards
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What does traffic originated in .ru has to do with Russian hacking/cracking/carding ??? yes, the they don?t pay 25 bucks to join, but that because $25 in Russia is like one tenth of average salary... and if they hack your site, it?s not because of them, its because your server admin is an idiot?.
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What does traffic originated in .ru has to do with Russian hacking/cracking/carding ??? yes, the they don?t pay 25 bucks to join, but that because $25 in Russia is like one tenth of average salary... and if they hack your site, it?s not because of them, its because your server admin is an idiot?
PLEASE read the thread again.
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go buy a clue. i've been hacked BAD twice in four years (lots of other minor shit) both times it was a "dialup.ru" IP addy.

you think there was a pimply-faced kid at M.I.T. who decided to bypass his T-3 connection to use a 33.6k dialup proxy to mask his identity? lol

what's REALLY fuct is that the poor S.O.B. is having to hack on a dialup account. that's really fucking sad. makes me feel sorry for them for a milisecond.
You may want to feel sorry for yourself if you?ve been fucked by a dialup kid twice in four years? get a new provider? may be you should leave a note for that Russian hacker.. I bet my dog?s poo he?ll do better job than your current admin? and for 1/3 of what you?re paying right now?
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