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Old 04-05-2004, 01:19 AM   #51
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Another question. If everything is password protected, would they try to crack it? Is it legal??
That's a good question.
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:28 AM   #52
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You have very few rights once you try to cross that border...

And here and I thought Canada was something of a free country. Maybe you need to clean her majesties name off of everything up there and try to get down to your individual rights. Your customs is a law enforcement arm and has to follow the law just like the RCMP does the last I heard.

You couldn't 'take it back' but you could demand to stay in its presence while you insisted on a legally signed seizure order by a high level judge.

Now if you were supposed to have some sort of form like the one guy said, oh well, SOMEone messed up then. But still it should take a judge to even enforce that. Dubya hasn't gotten around to deleting that area of our rights yet. lol Thats on the 2005 calender if he gets back in.
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No, I can most certainly say, once they confiscated your computer, passwords are totally irrelevant. The thing is though, they need people who know what they are doing in order to get based the password protection. Those are not in surplus in Canada.

Do you encrypt certain files?
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:33 AM   #54
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You have very few rights once you try to cross that border...

And here and I thought Canada was something of a free country. Maybe you need to clean her majesties name off of everything up there and try to get down to your individual rights. Your customs is a law enforcement arm and has to follow the law just like the RCMP does the last I heard.

You couldn't 'take it back' but you could demand to stay in its presence while you insisted on a legally signed seizure order by a high level judge.

Now if you were supposed to have some sort of form like the one guy said, oh well, SOMEone messed up then. But still it should take a judge to even enforce that. Dubya hasn't gotten around to deleting that area of our rights yet. lol Thats on the 2005 calender if he gets back in.
I promise you they don't need a judge to sign anything.

Canada Customs, can tear your car apart too ... No they don't need a judge to sign.

You don't have to cross the border if you don't like it, but that's the way it is.
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:40 AM   #55
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atleast it was canadian officials and not US customs
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Old 04-05-2004, 01:57 AM   #57
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most likely your name was red flagged when they scanned your passport for whatever reason. you are probably under investigation by someone.

i was interrogated crossing the border from WA, to BC not too long ago because they asked me what i did, i said "web development" and they asked me directly if i owned any adult sites and i said yes.

they asked me to pull over and go talk to the Customs guys where they were asking enough questions that it was beyond routine. it made me uncomfortable enough that i did not plan on going back soon. i would certainly never cross the border with a notebook after that.
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:00 AM   #58
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most likely your name was red flagged when they scanned your passport for whatever reason. you are probably under investigation by someone.

i was interrogated crossing the border from WA, to BC not too long ago because they asked me what i did, i said "web development" and they asked me directly if i owned any adult sites and i said yes.

they asked me to pull over and go talk to the Customs guys where they were asking enough questions that it was beyond routine. it made me uncomfortable enough that i did not plan on going back soon. i would certainly never cross the border with a notebook after that.
I agree, you have to be crazy to carry any adult files on a laptop when traveling between countries. Just asking for problems.
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:00 AM   #59
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:01 AM   #60
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most likely your name was red flagged when they scanned your passport for whatever reason. you are probably under investigation by someone.
That could be a possibility, especially if you're travelling alot.
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:03 AM   #61
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Hope you dont have tub girl on there...
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:04 AM   #62
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I agree, you have to be crazy to carry any adult files on a laptop when traveling between countries. Just asking for problems.
i've been redlined MANY times before - always told the truth and been searched many times having them look over my adult stuff. nothing illgegial about it - never had a problem before.


moral of the story - NEVER TELL THE TRUTH
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:05 AM   #63
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I agree, you have to be crazy to carry any adult files on a laptop when traveling between countries. Just asking for problems.
i fly a lot and travel all over the world. i back up everything to one of my servers and then download anything i need, if i need it once i get where i am going.
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:08 AM   #64
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all my invoices were on that computer. (ok, i have backups) but i'm thinking now...

come tax time next year I techicnally can say that canada customs and revenue - which is the same company - has all my records and wrtie off 10X as much faking a bunch of stuff. I wonder if that's possible....
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:11 AM   #65
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Sleazy man..Canadian customs has some serious beef with you
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:55 AM   #66
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Sleazy man..Canadian customs has some serious beef with you
no kidding- the worst is i don't do anything illegial
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:03 AM   #67
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Don't worry about it that much. Jails in Canada are heated during winter time
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:05 AM   #68
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that really sucks sleazy, what was the reason they took it?
if i was carying a laptop like that i would make sure i have backups of everything, so you can continue business in a situation like this (which im sure you've done) and ill probably also encrypt the hard drive to stop fuckers looking at my shit.

hopefully you get it back soon.

oh, and i got your tatoos today, thanks!
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Old 04-05-2004, 03:08 AM   #69
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I've never had such problems but I guess the world is starting to go to shit because they're dead scared of terrorists. If you're not the normal/conventional kinda guy they're gonna be suspicious.

That's why I don't travel anymore, I really don't react very well in those type of situations. I would've lost my mind.
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Sleazy you may also wanna change your passes on sponsors if you logged on from that laptop.

One thing thats true in US or CAN

The Gov isnt the one to trust with your shit.

once again GL.

hmmm my Dad is a customs broker in winepeg...not an officer but a broker..wonder if he gets any porn through his shit
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sleazy, my dad works for rev canada, i can ask him what you need to know tomorow he flies in from vegas tomorow. let me know what you need to know and i will ask him.
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that sucks Sleazy...
Sounds like a case for Jackie Chiles...
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moral of the story - NEVER TELL THE TRUTH
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i carry all my data on a USB drive so that there is nothing but hahahahahahas and a few proggies on my laptop

all HD data is encrypted so nohahahaha can fuck with that
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that sucks Sleazy...
Sounds like a case for Jackie Chiles...


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i fly a lot and travel all over the world. i back up everything to one of my servers and then download anything i need, if i need it once i get where i am going.
Sounds like a man with a plan. This story scared the shit out of me cause I never even thought about this. I happily travel the world with my laptop being open about evrything. I bet that if the checked my laptop they could even find some cp hahahahahahas (redirections from reviewing sites) and I would be really fucked.
I need to clean my laptop thoroughly before traveling borders. Thanks for the warning...
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that sucks Sleazy...
Sounds like a case for Jackie Chiles...

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Sorry about that hun. I hope everything works out for you. I would definately get a lawyer.
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that sucks Sleazy...
Sounds like a case for Jackie Chiles...
Hahahaha hell yeah it does
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Old 04-05-2004, 04:26 AM   #79
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now this sucks - comming home and canada customs seized my laptop computer so that one of their computer specialists can go through all the files.

I'm beyound shit scarded, not cause of any my content - no worries there - but because of spam. I hadn't emptied my email trash folder in a whille and I have no idea what's in there or if I'm liable for any of it - as customs people can be idiots when it comes to this kind of thing. Probally 10K plus spams in there.
Call your MP and complain.

Call the newspapers and complain.

Raise shit man!

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Old 04-05-2004, 05:41 AM   #80
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How clueless can they be? True story:
About 5 years ago I was flying from Canada to the states, returning home from Christmas. In my carry-on bag, I had a toaster oven someone gave to me. We're talking about a 9"x12"x14" toaster oven, not some mini-toaster thing... a full-sized toaster oven. A lady working for U.S. customs looked in my bag, shuffled a few things around, and then as she closed my bag she said "Don't worry, you don't have to turn on your computer." I had no computer; she was referring to the toaster oven!

So hopefully the Canadian customs agents won't try to jam a slice of bread into your laptop before they turn it on
Great story! Like they say "You don't have to be smart to work Customs, just suspicious."
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Old 04-05-2004, 05:51 AM   #81
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Never had a problem with canada customs - hell when ever they said "what is your purpose for visiting the USA I always said, "I am going to a porn convention!!! "

Unless you look like bin laden or have CP on your system they dont care.. or they shouldnt - for anyone else who joined me going to the usa from canada the most they ever did was ask you to turn your system on to prove it works.

So what exactly happened that they became suspicious?? did they tell you why they wanted to keep it??
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:03 AM   #83
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thats fucking crap..they are gonna give that thing back sticky
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sorry to hear that Sleazy! Hope u get it back but odds are you prolly won't...
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Good luck getting your computer back, Sleazy.. In the meantime I would be raising a ruckus at customs, if I was you.. Claim that they are causing loss of revenue and stuff.. they don't like the prospect of having to pay out over seizures.
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That's really wrong they should have a reson to be be able to search for material on your pc.

I hate the society we live in now, we are just numbered individuals controlled by officials. We can't do anything dangerous, do the sexual things we want to do as concenting adults etc

Now we have to surrender property for checking with no grounds for doing that...

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Next time dont bring it..

Rent one, bring just a few files on a memory card!
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Thats a real bummer SleazyDream

Hope you don't get any trouble cause of this.
We are not really free
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Sorry to hear that sleazydream.... good luck in a speedy return of your stuff...
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well shit man lets hope theyre not looking abooot the place properly
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Holy crap!

Definitely something to keep in mind. Your unfortunate experience is a lesson for us all.
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Never had a problem with canada customs - hell when ever they said "what is your purpose for visiting the USA I always said, "I am going to a porn convention!!! "

Unless you look like bin laden or have CP on your system they dont care.. or they shouldnt - for anyone else who joined me going to the usa from canada the most they ever did was ask you to turn your system on to prove it works.

So what exactly happened that they became suspicious?? did they tell you why they wanted to keep it??
i got redlined and the reason I got redlined was because someone sent me an ipod and incorrectly valued it at $100 or something when the item had a $500 price tag on it. It was seized by customs, i had nothing to do with that but it puts a red flag on you to get searched if you ever get something like that happening to you.

So the customs officer saw LEGAL adult material and decided to seize the machine pending what he called "classification"

I'm left thinking that's total bullshit- all files he looked at were legal and within canadian obsenity laws. but because they were adult he seized them. Personally I think that shows ignorance and a personal prejustice against adult on behalf of that customs agent and I will be persuing a complaint against that officer. They said they'd phone me this morning - i still havn't heard from them.
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I'm sure you will be fine. But don't plan on seeing that laptop for 6 months.

Canadian customs kept a cd of content that was posted to me for 4 months.
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:30 AM   #96
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I've gone through customs countless times with mine and haven't had a problem at all.
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:36 AM   #97
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What was the reasoning behind confiscating it? Hope you don't have any bondage related materials on there. I had some content seized a few years back and ever since every parcel sent to me gets intercepted and opened.

are you freaking serious? WTF don't you have privacy rights up there? I thought America was getting bad but looks like it's not so nice for you guys either..
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:41 AM   #98
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Think of the bright side of it, the Sleazy and Lars sex tape will come out and you will become rich and famous
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Old 04-05-2004, 08:46 AM   #99
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Canada Border Services Agency is the most powerful law enforcement agency in Canada when it comes to search and/or seizure..

Heck, if they suspect you are transporting contraband across the border, they can kick the door in on your property, that might be 1000 miles away from the border, and do a search w/o warrant.. try to get the RCMP, or any other police force in Canada to do that.. no way, it'd be thrown out of court immediately.

I hope for your sake Sleazy there wasn't anything on the notebook that might just be deemed "obscene material" .. if so, its a goner..

As for why did they search your laptop.. who knows.. could have been a smart ass response to a question, you seemed nervous, etc..

Did you have the identifcation card? As mentioned above that proves it was not a brand new laptop, etc. etc. That may have helped in avoiding the search..

Either which way, good luck with it.. hahahahaha to your MP and the appropriate Ministers..
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Old 04-05-2004, 09:03 AM   #100
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That is seriously fucked up!
My laptop fried and I haven't picked up a new one yet but when I do I'll be sure to not have any files on there that might cause me problems.
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