CE and Danni's Hard Drive made $2 billion in 2003 !!!!!!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

99bb · 03-15-2004, 04:09 AM

Hey,

"Technology has paid off handsomely for porn sites in the USA. Led by sites like Danni's Hard Drive and Cybererotica, they generated $2 billion in revenue last year, up 10% to 15% from 2002, says Adult Video News, a trade magazine. That's about 10% of the overall domestic porn market. The number of porn sites has vaulted eighteenfold, to 1.3 million, since 1998, says the National Research Council."

$2 BILLION in revenue !!!! Can this be right. This wasn't picked up in a previous thread regarding the article a few days ago
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...rotica+revenue

This seems like an incredible amount of money, any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

=^..^= · 03-15-2004, 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by 99bb
[B]Hey,

"Technology has paid off handsomely for porn sites in the USA. Led by sites like Danni's Hard Drive and Cybererotica, they generated $2 billion in revenue last year,

REad it properly
it says PORN SITES in the US made that much money
not specifically CE and Danni just by themselves

hova · 03-15-2004, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=

REad it properly
it says PORN SITES in the US made that much money
not specifically CE and Danni just by themselves

but its still a shitload of $

Nicky · 03-15-2004, 04:21 AM

yep, its a shitload of money, and its gonna be more much more!!

Makingcoin · 03-15-2004, 04:24 AM

I made 3.4 billion last year offline.

=^..^= · 03-15-2004, 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by Makingcoin
I made 3.4 billion last year offline.

you must have a real sore ass

rip raster · 03-15-2004, 04:26 AM

I found a penny once

99bb · 03-15-2004, 04:26 AM

OK,

Apologies for the mistake. It was a little early, but the article was written badly in my book.

I wondered whether they had made a typo !!

Is there anyway of deleting the thread, seems pointless having it up.

radical · 03-15-2004, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=

you must have a real sore ass

hehehehehehehe

Mutt · 03-15-2004, 04:54 AM

hehe.............. guarantee you 99bb has 5 times the members of Danni's Hardrive and more than Cybererotica now.

The Sex Pusher · 03-15-2004, 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by rip raster
I found a penny once

That was my penny !!! and now that i know you have it , i want it back..

Don't try to deny you found it or i will show the judge this thread.. !!

Living For Today · 03-15-2004, 04:56 AM

i agree that article isnt worded in the best way.

Krille · 03-15-2004, 04:59 AM

not too bright huh?

=^..^= · 03-15-2004, 05:00 AM

I will admit - I did have to read that twice myself the first time i saw it last week

Although it IS correct English grammar - it's not the sort of grammar that should be used for a news article

poe · 03-15-2004, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=

you must have a real sore ass

rip raster · 03-15-2004, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Sex Pusher

That was my penny !!! and now that i know you have it , i want it back..

Don't try to deny you found it or i will show the judge this thread.. !!

I'm sorry I already spent it. I put a downpayment on one of those 2 cent bubblegums that cost 5 cents now

If you want I could give you half of it when I finish makin the payments

Trax · 03-15-2004, 06:14 AM

english seems to be a difficult language
ce and danni $2 bullion in 2003??

get a clue

polish_aristocrat · 03-15-2004, 06:20 AM

How do they now that the industry made 10-15% more in 2003 than 2002?
So far there were posted very different estimations what the online porn industry makes - from less than 1 Billion to 4-5 Billions.

taboo_dude · 03-15-2004, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
How do they now that the industry made 10-15% more in 2003 than 2002?
So far there were posted very different estimations what the online porn industry makes - from less than 1 Billion to 4-5 Billions.

Exactly, really no one knows. They just guesstimate. The truth is a lot of mainstream companies that have their hand in the cookie jar does not report it as "porn" profits. Companies like Viacom and others hide the fact they are in the biz. So for them to state these kinda of claims is ridiculous.

Mutt · 03-15-2004, 07:03 AM

it would be pretty easy to get a good estimate of the yearly revenues of the online porn industry. because there are only a handful of companies who process the credit cards for all Internet porn sites it becomes pretty simple. IBILL is part of a public company - so the financial records are there for how much they process a year. Then do a guesstimate of how much of the market IBILL has now - voila, you have a pretty good rough estimate of how much money online porn grosses.

bluelevelnick · 03-15-2004, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
How do they now that the industry made 10-15% more in 2003 than 2002?
So far there were posted very different estimations what the online porn industry makes - from less than 1 Billion to 4-5 Billions.

that is quite easy to explain 'cause I worked for years as a journalist:

Suck on my toes and digits come out quite easy...

Ash@phpFX · 03-15-2004, 07:17 AM

1.3 million. now thats amazing. i wonder how many of those are owened by gfy members?

Paul Markham · 03-15-2004, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by =^..^=

you must have a real sore ass

How would he know, he lost all the feeling. When the lube ran out in July it came back for a little while.

2bn and rising, but this business has been killed by free sites and people giving porn away. How can this be true?

Basic_man · 03-15-2004, 07:46 AM

WTF is Danni's Hard Drive ???

Joesho · 03-15-2004, 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
hehe.............. guarantee you 99bb has 5 times the members of Danni's Hardrive and more than Cybererotica now.

well good luck to 99bb.. like has been pointed out, that many members = shitload of money

Mike-BP · 03-15-2004, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Basic_man
WTF is Danni's Hard Drive ???

www.danni.com

lickmymonster · 03-15-2004, 08:13 AM

google most downloaded woman".

www.mostdownloadedwoman.com

doornx · 03-15-2004, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by =^..^=

you must have a real sore ass

LOL..share the wealth bro..gimme

Lykos · 03-15-2004, 09:45 AM

Good for them

Donny · 03-15-2004, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Makingcoin
I made 3.4 billion last year offline.

Damn, you beat me by 100 million. I only made 3.3 billion.

03-15-2004, 10:41 AM

"2 BILLION in revenue" - look like unreal.

pornstar2pac · 03-15-2004, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Nicky
yep, its a shitload of money, and its gonna be more much more!!

Well then give me some. share the love

riosluts · 03-15-2004, 10:46 AM

holy shit. The money is rising but webmasters are still making less and less every year. why is that

Volantt · 03-15-2004, 11:30 AM

Wow, wonder how much was shaved by sponsors...

V

Axeman · 03-15-2004, 11:32 AM

porn sites total, not two sites!

modelgigtalent · 03-15-2004, 11:32 AM

I think they mean the entire industry.

Doctor Dre · 03-15-2004, 11:33 AM

Looks like overall porn grossed 2 millions . Not only ce cash

zzgundamnzz · 03-15-2004, 11:36 AM

I think the artical meant overall. Not just CE and Danni

Fletch XXX · 03-15-2004, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 99bb
Hey,

"Technology has paid off handsomely for porn sites in the USA. Led by sites like Danni's Hard Drive and Cybererotica, they generated $2 billion in revenue last year, up 10% to 15% from 2002, says Adult Video News, a trade magazine. That's about 10% of the overall domestic porn market. The number of porn sites has vaulted eighteenfold, to 1.3 million, since 1998, says the National Research Council."

$2 BILLION in revenue !!!! Can this be right. This wasn't picked up in a previous thread regarding the article a few days ago
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...rotica+revenue

This seems like an incredible amount of money, any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

why di you think we will be targets next?

Any industr yiwth that kind of money is going to get squeezed by the feds.

simple as that.

If people can make 200+k a year from a 1 bedroom apt, millionaires are definitely boing to be targetted.

cashman · 03-15-2004, 12:11 PM

Visa is the main obsticle.

taboo_dude · 03-15-2004, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
it would be pretty easy to get a good estimate of the yearly revenues of the online porn industry. because there are only a handful of companies who process the credit cards for all Internet porn sites it becomes pretty simple. IBILL is part of a public company - so the financial records are there for how much they process a year. Then do a guesstimate of how much of the market IBILL has now - voila, you have a pretty good rough estimate of how much money online porn grosses.

>The Tribune and Daily News both fell for one of the most common pitfalls of covering porn ? taking the participants? word at face value. As I learned the hard way while writing about the adult industry off and on for the past seven years, porn people are capable of looking you straight in the eye and telling you lies so convincing that even they believe them.

Since there is precious little reliable public data about the adult business, reporters depend to an unusual degree on the veracity of people who are accustomed to secrecy and deception, and who don?t always understand the nuanced differences between such terms as ?profits? and ?revenue.?

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=13212

and another one:

http://www.forbes.com/2001/05/25/0524porn.html

While the forbes article is the most outdated, the ways people try to guessimate what is going on will not change.

I have been researching this for several months. If anyone can me SOLID numbers I am all ears until then it is all guesswork. Guesswork can get you close but with so many companies hiding the fact they do have profits in porn, it will ALWAYS be difficult to determine exactly what kind of revenue is being generated.

taboo_dude · 03-15-2004, 12:21 PM

http://www.caslon.com.au/xcontentprofile.htm

Here is a very good example of some of the claims. This is the first time I have seen this but it is very detailed about some of the claims that have been made. It also has some solid information in it. Breaks it down into sectors etc.

This made me laugh out loud:

the dubious (and often notably self-serving) nature of many industry claims - "an industry where they exaggerate the size of everything"

I wonder what they meant by that

03-15-2004, 04:09 AM	#1
99bb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 178	CE and Danni's Hard Drive made $2 billion in 2003 !!!!!!!! Hey, "Technology has paid off handsomely for porn sites in the USA. Led by sites like Danni's Hard Drive and Cybererotica, they generated $2 billion in revenue last year, up 10% to 15% from 2002, says Adult Video News, a trade magazine. That's about 10% of the overall domestic porn market. The number of porn sites has vaulted eighteenfold, to 1.3 million, since 1998, says the National Research Council." $2 BILLION in revenue !!!! Can this be right. This wasn't picked up in a previous thread regarding the article a few days ago http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...rotica+revenue This seems like an incredible amount of money, any thoughts on this would be appreciated. __________________ Broadband Movie Site

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99bb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 178	OK, Apologies for the mistake. It was a little early, but the article was written badly in my book. I wondered whether they had made a typo !! Is there anyway of deleting the thread, seems pointless having it up. __________________ Broadband Movie Site

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	hehe.............. guarantee you 99bb has 5 times the members of Danni's Hardrive and more than Cybererotica now. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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=^..^= Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ 380-366 Posts: 6,935	I will admit - I did have to read that twice myself the first time i saw it last week Although it IS correct English grammar - it's not the sort of grammar that should be used for a news article __________________ #RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF

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Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	english seems to be a difficult language ce and danni $2 bullion in 2003?? get a clue

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polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	How do they now that the industry made 10-15% more in 2003 than 2002? So far there were posted very different estimations what the online porn industry makes - from less than 1 Billion to 4-5 Billions. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	it would be pretty easy to get a good estimate of the yearly revenues of the online porn industry. because there are only a handful of companies who process the credit cards for all Internet porn sites it becomes pretty simple. IBILL is part of a public company - so the financial records are there for how much they process a year. Then do a guesstimate of how much of the market IBILL has now - voila, you have a pretty good rough estimate of how much money online porn grosses. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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Ash@phpFX Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,292	1.3 million. now thats amazing. i wonder how many of those are owened by gfy members?

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taboo_dude Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: TN Posts: 707	http://www.caslon.com.au/xcontentprofile.htm Here is a very good example of some of the claims. This is the first time I have seen this but it is very detailed about some of the claims that have been made. It also has some solid information in it. Breaks it down into sectors etc. This made me laugh out loud: the dubious (and often notably self-serving) nature of many industry claims - "an industry where they exaggerate the size of everything" I wonder what they meant by that __________________ If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. The Duke.