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SomeCreep · 03-05-2004, 08:40 PM

50 opinions

fatal attraction · 03-05-2004, 10:42 PM

Great article Rick! It's nice to actually see something useful on here for a change. Especially coming from you! Instead of some of these idiots that "think" they know everything. Hopefully, they took notes.

So, you finally got the vasectomy. Hope your balls start feeling better soon. lol

03-06-2004, 02:16 AM

Thanks, good article

Odin88 · 03-06-2004, 02:20 AM

Very interesting klik. Can I ask what sites you run?

exspamr · 03-06-2004, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona

What bothers me the most about this is that I had a fucking vasectomy yesterday morning. So I sat at home with my balls the size of grapefruits writing an article for everyone here. I spent the whole day on the dame thing and I don't even get credit for it.

lol man, i gotta admit, i thought it was a little funny at 1st too... but i also thought it was a good article and i agree with alot of what you said... i can tell by your reaction that you actually seem to be a pretty good guy who cares about what he does... i can respect that

i think leased content CAN suck... that majority of what ive see has been bad, there is some good stuff out there... even with the bad stuff ive seen, i think it wouldnt be so bad if they gave the leaser more control over the presentation of the feeds and shit... maybe they do moreso now... its been a few years since i really checked into anything leased

Zebra · 03-06-2004, 02:58 AM

Good post Rick! Touched on some very interesting points.
Don't agree 100% about the leased feeds but everyone has their own opinion on how a members area should work. Variety is what makes the internet so interesting.

Oh yeah.. care to explain this?

ControlThy · 03-06-2004, 03:14 AM

Nice article, Rick Latona.

OY · 03-06-2004, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona

What bothers me the most about this is that I had a fucking vasectomy yesterday morning. So I sat at home with my balls the size of grapefruits writing an article for everyone here. I spent the whole day on the dame thing and I don't even get credit for it.

Now that sucks! And trust me Rick, I for one, do know what sucks when it comes to getting wrong attention to the wrong thing!

PS. Balls up buddy!!! We all have them!

Mr. Marks · 03-06-2004, 03:27 AM

Nice article, Rick Latona.

KraZ · 03-06-2004, 03:37 AM

Nice article Rick

Btw, what's that thing with vasectomy - it's giving me shivers

Custom content is the way to go - jump on the bandwagon

scooby doo as scooby does · 03-06-2004, 05:21 AM

Good article.

zentz · 03-06-2004, 05:51 AM

blah

jacobt · 03-06-2004, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona

What bothers me the most about this is that I had a fucking vasectomy yesterday morning. So I sat at home with my balls the size of grapefruits writing an article for everyone here. I spent the whole day on the dame thing and I don't even get credit for it.

At least you didn't beg for money to pay for it.

alexg · 03-06-2004, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona

What bothers me the most about this is that I had a fucking vasectomy yesterday morning. So I sat at home with my balls the size of grapefruits writing an article for everyone here. I spent the whole day on the dame thing and I don't even get credit for it.

don't worry Rick, I think that every one who read your article and the first reply knows that the credit is yours.

Newton - XXXAmigoz · 03-06-2004, 06:44 AM

Sweet Article, very informative and crisp, way to go Rick Latona.

wyldblyss · 03-06-2004, 06:51 AM

Don't worry Rick, when I read your post I never even looked at the nickname and wouldn't have even noticed it had a different nick if you had not mentioned it.

Rick Latona · 03-06-2004, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zebra
Good post Rick! Touched on some very interesting points.
Don't agree 100% about the leased feeds but everyone has their own opinion on how a members area should work. Variety is what makes the internet so interesting.

Oh yeah.. care to explain this?

How much time did you put into that? The gay guy is better looking than me, IMHO.

Raf1 · 03-06-2004, 07:14 AM

nice article

SGS · 03-06-2004, 07:20 AM

Good article and 100% true.

Trafficbrokercom · 03-06-2004, 07:43 AM

Rick,

great post.

some points for discussion:

- I blame the whole development of the industry on leased feeds.

- Most of the paysite owners and webmaster programs think that their prospective customers are idiots

- But: Exclusive content doesn't necessarily result in better conversions and higher retentions

I still have a hangover so I can not go into detail right now ;)

Mike

Rick Latona · 03-06-2004, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trafficbrokercom
Rick,

great post.

some points for discussion:

- I blame the whole development of the industry on leased feeds.

- Most of the paysite owners and webmaster programs think that their prospective customers are idiots

- But: Exclusive content doesn't necessarily result in better conversions and higher retentions

I still have a hangover so I can not go into detail right now ;)

Mike

At no point in my article do I mention exclusive content. Personally, we have a mix. We shoot some exclusive stuff but I also buy a lot of content and just chop it up and put it into the member's area so it looks exclusive. The point is for the member to be able to quickly navigate around the site and find what they want and watch it the way they want. I hate a page with a bunch of links to feeds that open in different windows with different navigational structures and playback formats. It's sloppy.

turbomax · 03-06-2004, 08:01 AM

excellent post Rick the credit is all yours without a doubt !!!

turbomax · 03-06-2004, 08:28 AM

Rick one more important piece, how to you keep the chargebacks
below the 1 percent mark? that must be the battle of the day also

Rick Latona · 03-06-2004, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbomax
Rick one more important piece, how to you keep the chargebacks
below the 1 percent mark? that must be the battle of the day also

I'll be covering chargebacks in next month's article.

turbomax · 03-06-2004, 08:35 AM

Great, i'll be lookin out for it.
have a great weekend hope you feel better!!

Ash@phpFX · 03-06-2004, 08:35 AM

good post, too bad it got stolen, i wonder who is going to win the thread of the day prize, rick or klik

cashman · 03-06-2004, 09:04 AM

Very good post.

BuckLover · 03-06-2004, 01:05 PM

Makes sense to me! but the content! and own the rights!

Rick Latona · 03-06-2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BuckLover
Makes sense to me! but the content! and own the rights!

Fairly simple concept, eh?

tbabe · 03-06-2004, 06:45 PM

Great article rick, very enjoyable read

slapass · 03-06-2004, 08:29 PM

Nice. You broke it down real well. The own versus renting was very powerful but add in that you constantly need to feed the webmasters content to push you and it is a very compelling argument to buy the stuff.

What about upselling in the members area? That can also look like shit. I hate that when the surfer thinks they are still in the members area but they are now in an upsell. Makes for nice money but it has to hurt retention.

Pornkings · 03-06-2004, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I guess my article sucks since no one has mentioned it.

Don't lie I sent you that. always trying to take credit

Rick Latona · 03-07-2004, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
Nice. You broke it down real well. The own versus renting was very powerful but add in that you constantly need to feed the webmasters content to push you and it is a very compelling argument to buy the stuff.

What about upselling in the members area? That can also look like shit. I hate that when the surfer thinks they are still in the members area but they are now in an upsell. Makes for nice money but it has to hurt retention.

We have a single link in our member's area for additional items. If someone clicks that link a new window opens where we have the one-on-one chat stuff and other upsell items. We do not mix them with everything else. In otherwords, I agree with you 100%.

Keev · 03-07-2004, 08:31 AM

good post rick!

IPK · 03-07-2004, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

Don't lie I sent you that. always trying to take credit

hey roger, i sent you that article in an attempt to make pornkings more solid. stop trying to take credit

PatrickKing · 03-07-2004, 08:52 AM

I for one am glad that your balls were blown up like grape fruits yesterday. We have benifited from your agaony. Just woke up and this is the first post I read .it kind of provides food for thought for the rest of the day.
Thanks Man And hope ya heal up real soon!

Rick Latona · 03-07-2004, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PatrickKing
I for one am glad that your balls were blown up like grape fruits yesterday. We have benifited from your agaony. Just woke up and this is the first post I read .it kind of provides food for thought for the rest of the day.
Thanks Man And hope ya heal up real soon!

They are getting better. Still a little swollen... It's a pretty tramatic thing to have your nuts operated on.

SteveLightspeed · 03-07-2004, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona

What bothers me the most about this is that I had a fucking vasectomy yesterday morning. So I sat at home with my balls the size of grapefruits writing an article for everyone here. I spent the whole day on the dame thing and I don't even get credit for it.

I'm trying to imagine why you would tell us about "grapefruit sized balls"

lol

Rick Latona · 03-07-2004, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed

I'm trying to imagine why you would tell us about "grapefruit sized balls"

lol

It's tough to talk about anything else right now.

FocusAdult · 03-07-2004, 03:44 PM

Couple things come to mind about this thread and CJ(rick).

a) right on the money about lease versus buying license. Buying licensed content gives you teh chance to control how your members see and utilize and interact with your content. We've gone through great lengths to make content that is compatible with your system, provided a mryiad of options and file sizes and such so you can customize it for your users.

Who knows your users better than you? Nobody.

b) A year later, the content you buy licenses for won't be useless. That's a myth. There are new surfers every day, don't we use this argument in every other facet of our industry? Same is true for the pictures and videos they see. They are new to someone, always.

c) CJ is by far the most professional group we've ever dealt with in terms of specifying what they need, on a content deal, and what their technical and functional specs are on a product they pay for.

I wish all companies in this industry had their game together the way rick and co do at cj.

justin
focusadult.com
www.focusadult.com
icq 3343102

Rick Latona · 03-08-2004, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FocusAdult
Couple things come to mind about this thread and CJ(rick).

a) right on the money about lease versus buying license. Buying licensed content gives you teh chance to control how your members see and utilize and interact with your content. We've gone through great lengths to make content that is compatible with your system, provided a mryiad of options and file sizes and such so you can customize it for your users.

Who knows your users better than you? Nobody.

b) A year later, the content you buy licenses for won't be useless. That's a myth. There are new surfers every day, don't we use this argument in every other facet of our industry? Same is true for the pictures and videos they see. They are new to someone, always.

c) CJ is by far the most professional group we've ever dealt with in terms of specifying what they need, on a content deal, and what their technical and functional specs are on a product they pay for.

I wish all companies in this industry had their game together the way rick and co do at cj.

justin
focusadult.com
www.focusadult.com
icq 3343102

Thanks for the kind words, Justin.

hoe_vender · 03-08-2004, 08:24 AM

Nice try Rick missing the point

Rick Latona · 03-08-2004, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hoe_vender
Nice try Rick missing the point

What point did I miss. I'm ready for a debate but you have to actually say something. All you have to do is make a point yourself and I might send you a shirt like you asked for in another thread of mine.

Rick Latona · 03-08-2004, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona

What point did I miss. I'm ready for a debate but you have to actually say something. All you have to do is make a point yourself and I might send you a shirt like you asked for in another thread of mine.

Why didn't this post bump the thread? test test test

rocki · 03-08-2004, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zebra

bump.... naw rick, you look better

WWC · 03-10-2004, 08:53 PM

Great post!! This is all very true and this is what we at www.AdultLounge.com are also doing. We are redesigning our entire members areas and adding more of our own exlcusively shot content and we are buying new stuff from www.WorldWideContent.com . They have great new stuff we havent seen before on other sites....

reynold · 03-10-2004, 10:05 PM

Great article!

Basic_man · 03-10-2004, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm very angry right now.

OWN3D !!

Illicit · 03-10-2004, 10:11 PM

nice post, too bad u got robbed of the credit...

valley hina · 03-10-2004, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ajpiii
nice post, too bad u got robbed of the credit...

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Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	Good post Rick! Touched on some very interesting points. Don't agree 100% about the leased feeds but everyone has their own opinion on how a members area should work. Variety is what makes the internet so interesting. Oh yeah.. care to explain this? __________________ Old School

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fatal attraction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: where ever he is! Posts: 6,522	Great article Rick! It's nice to actually see something useful on here for a change. Especially coming from you! Instead of some of these idiots that "think" they know everything. Hopefully, they took notes. So, you finally got the vasectomy. Hope your balls start feeling better soon. lol

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Odin88 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: au Posts: 3,267	Very interesting klik. Can I ask what sites you run?

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wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	Don't worry Rick, when I read your post I never even looked at the nickname and wouldn't have even noticed it had a different nick if you had not mentioned it.

03-06-2004, 07:14 AM	#68
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03-06-2004, 07:43 AM	#70
Trafficbrokercom Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 542	Rick, great post. some points for discussion: - I blame the whole development of the industry on leased feeds. - Most of the paysite owners and webmaster programs think that their prospective customers are idiots - But: Exclusive content doesn't necessarily result in better conversions and higher retentions I still have a hangover so I can not go into detail right now ;) Mike

03-06-2004, 08:01 AM	#72
turbomax Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 394	excellent post Rick the credit is all yours without a doubt !!!

03-06-2004, 08:28 AM	#73
turbomax Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 394	Rick one more important piece, how to you keep the chargebacks below the 1 percent mark? that must be the battle of the day also

03-06-2004, 08:35 AM	#75
turbomax Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 394	Great, i'll be lookin out for it. have a great weekend hope you feel better!!

03-06-2004, 08:35 AM	#76
Ash@phpFX Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,292	good post, too bad it got stolen, i wonder who is going to win the thread of the day prize, rick or klik

03-06-2004, 09:04 AM	#77
cashman Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 898	Very good post.

03-06-2004, 01:05 PM	#78
BuckLover Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I'm everywhere Bitches!! Posts: 1,656	Makes sense to me! but the content! and own the rights!

03-06-2004, 06:45 PM	#80
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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Nice. You broke it down real well. The own versus renting was very powerful but add in that you constantly need to feed the webmasters content to push you and it is a very compelling argument to buy the stuff. What about upselling in the members area? That can also look like shit. I hate that when the surfer thinks they are still in the members area but they are now in an upsell. Makes for nice money but it has to hurt retention.

03-07-2004, 08:31 AM	#84
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03-07-2004, 08:52 AM	#86
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03-07-2004, 03:44 PM	#90
FocusAdult Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 304	Couple things come to mind about this thread and CJ(rick). a) right on the money about lease versus buying license. Buying licensed content gives you teh chance to control how your members see and utilize and interact with your content. We've gone through great lengths to make content that is compatible with your system, provided a mryiad of options and file sizes and such so you can customize it for your users. Who knows your users better than you? Nobody. b) A year later, the content you buy licenses for won't be useless. That's a myth. There are new surfers every day, don't we use this argument in every other facet of our industry? Same is true for the pictures and videos they see. They are new to someone, always. c) CJ is by far the most professional group we've ever dealt with in terms of specifying what they need, on a content deal, and what their technical and functional specs are on a product they pay for. I wish all companies in this industry had their game together the way rick and co do at cj. justin focusadult.com www.focusadult.com icq 3343102

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