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jasmine · 02-19-2004, 11:30 AM

What is the best way to get a record deal ? I have some connections here and there but, want to get their CD in the right hands.

Any suggestions ?

Shok · 02-19-2004, 11:31 AM

There really is no short cuts.

The best way is just to get out and play, build word of mouth and then maybe then they will get noticed.

99.9999% of everyone that thinks they have what it takes are actually shit.

GiantGnome · 02-19-2004, 11:34 AM

Maybe hit the local radio station and talk one of them into playing. Them maybe the big boys will hear it and want to make a deal.

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
There really is no short cuts.

The best way is just to get out and play, build word of mouth and then maybe then they will get noticed.

99.9999% of everyone that thinks they have what it takes are actually shit.

I hear ya but, even some of the music on MTV and VH1 really is not that great in my opinion.

Some of the riff's to me are boring.

Shok · 02-19-2004, 11:36 AM

And even after they get label interest it's all just a big bullshit run around game that most of the time ends in nothing.

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by GiantGnome
Maybe hit the local radio station and talk one of them into playing. Them maybe the big boys will hear it and want to make a deal.

Thanks I am sending it out to my local stations this week. I want to make sure I cover every possible avenue.

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
And even after they get label interest it's all just a big bullshit run around game that most of the time ends in nothing.

I understand that completely but, I am bound and determined and always think positive

m00d · 02-19-2004, 11:39 AM

They have to be road dogs, it's the only tried and true method.
Of course, you can shop your demo to labels (most wont even listen unless you have a contact). To get some contacts, get in touch with a GOOD music agency or music lawyer. Ask them to shop the demo.

Buy them a ford econoline van and send them on the road. About 200 shows a year for a few years. South by Southwest, North by Northwest, they should be booked in towns where big music festivals are at the time for maximum exposure..

sickkittens · 02-19-2004, 11:39 AM

play, play, play.

Play shows as often as they can. If they're good, they will be found. The local radio thing is ok. Just think of how many crappy bads are already doing it.

Like Shok said, there is no real shortcut. I've played in bands that played with bands who were around for a long time who eventually got good record deals and played on big tours - but it was all abotu them being good and getting a following.

loverboy · 02-19-2004, 11:40 AM

road trips, gigs to get exposure. goodluck

xxxinnovations · 02-19-2004, 11:41 AM

Promotional T-shirts always help...

sickkittens · 02-19-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by xxxinnovations
Promotional T-shirts always help...

Tshirts get record deals?

nice sig.

Hollywood Horwitz · 02-19-2004, 11:43 AM

having been in almost 15 bands now, i can tell ya the process.

1. play out constantly,always have shows booked up. you can do it yourself,you don't need a manager or a booking agent.

2. have a well recorded demo and merchandise

3. get a fan base. this will be easy if the band is good and has a email list at every show.then you can email yer fans.

4. TOUR!!!! you have to tour cuz the labels need to see ya. if ya dont live in NYC or LA then you wont be discovered,trust me.

5.network with other bands. you MUST get tight with other bands and get a "sister" that can help you out.maybe email somebands you like and show them mp3s or send them a cd.

6. good luck!!! all these things havent gotten my band a deal yet.

Shok · 02-19-2004, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by GigaRoss

4. TOUR!!!! you have to tour cuz the labels need to see ya. if ya dont live in NYC or LA then you wont be discovered,trust me.

6. good luck!!! all these things havent gotten my band a deal yet.

4: You would not believe some of the places that label people pop up at.

6:

JasonB · 02-19-2004, 11:47 AM

Agreed. Have them hit the road HARD.

Getting a record deal isn't always what it's cracked up to be, especially if it's a major label. It may mean that they HAVE to hit the road endlessly just to "pay back" the label for what they "loaned" them to record the album.

Once they've been on the road for a while, you should put them in a recording studio & make their own cd first. ..then they have something to shop around with.

Malkmus · 02-19-2004, 11:49 AM

American idol

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by m00d
They have to be road dogs, it's the only tried and true method.
Of course, you can shop your demo to labels (most wont even listen unless you have a contact). To get some contacts, get in touch with a GOOD music agency or music lawyer. Ask them to shop the demo.

Buy them a ford econoline van and send them on the road. About 200 shows a year for a few years. South by Southwest, North by Northwest, they should be booked in towns where big music festivals are at the time for maximum exposure..

Thanks I appreciate that.

Ash@phpFX · 02-19-2004, 11:52 AM

it doesnt happen overnight, the band has to build a reputation for itself locally first. they should try to get as many gigs as possible and get their name out there. tell them to form a mailing list and sell cds at the gigs. Also when they have a bit of a following you can approach the equipment manufacturers for endorsement deals, even if its just a discount on the gear. all this helps build the bands profile and make it more attractive to the record labels.

hope this helps

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 11:52 AM

I do have some contacts with record labels thru one of my old friends in NYC. She is personal friends with someone from Arista Records. She is getting in touch with him this week to give him a copy of the boys CD.

I just want to make sure I do not leave any stone unturned

GonePhishing · 02-19-2004, 11:52 AM

http://www.katch22.com/

A friend of mine

arg · 02-19-2004, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jasmine
What is the best way to get a record deal?

Having a band with exeptionally attractive people. Musical ability would be a bonus.

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonePhishing
http://www.katch22.com/

A friend of mine

Thanks for the url. Shall I say you referred me ?

Also can you tell me what their track record has been to get bands signed ?

Thanks so much.

Magnus · 02-19-2004, 12:07 PM

Tour tour and tour some more.. and they can try shopping it to some smaller lables.

KMR Stitch · 02-19-2004, 12:08 PM

Radio.. some Radio stations like clearchannel have local bands that play....

He-Man · 02-19-2004, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jasmine
What is the best way to get a record deal ? I have some connections here and there but, want to get their CD in the right hands.

Any suggestions ?

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Sleep around a bit

sickkittens · 02-19-2004, 12:46 PM

Post some mp3's here if you can. I'd like to hear a few tracks.

SoundMan · 02-19-2004, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by sickkittens
Post some mp3's here if you can. I'd like to hear a few tracks.

Yeh post them here so we can tell you how it is!

m00d · 02-19-2004, 12:50 PM

http://www.indietrax.com/

My site, if he needs free hosting.

GonePhishing · 02-19-2004, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Thanks for the url. Shall I say you referred me ?

I'll e-mail her and see what she has been up to lately and if there is any info I can give you!

Bryan Havoc · 02-19-2004, 12:55 PM

It takes lots of work and lots of playing. Took us 5 years before our first record deal. His band has to have a following because he's gonna have to move units once a company signs him a puts an album out. If they can't move the units, they'll be dropped and probably owe some money.

com · 02-19-2004, 12:57 PM

hit local youth targeted radio stations. 91x was the first station to play Jack Johnson, and that gave him his start. Most radio stations have alotted a time slot for local bands, check into that

candyflip · 02-19-2004, 01:23 PM

Isn't this a teenage boyband? You could always contact Lou Pearlman, the guy who got both Backstreet Boys and nSync off the ground.

*edit ... hey look at that...my 5,000th post.

Mr. Jim · 02-19-2004, 01:31 PM

put a couiple tracks on an actions sports video soundtrack....

we have raised an entire generation of children on VHS/DVD when a 13 year old is too old for the lion king anbd toy story they look for other means of entertainment inside the routine they are use to .....this is why the rental and home dvd purchase numbers have exploded in the last four years.

....but i guess weare on top of that already

eroswebmaster · 02-19-2004, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok

4: You would not believe some of the places that label people pop up at.

6:

#4 True but your chances are significantly greater being in a media center.

I have uncles who have been in bands since the late 60's and won great accolades in the 70's...in fact they won the Buddy Award in Texas which was quite a feat back then...they were kind of a rock jazz fusion kind of group and beat out the North Texas State Jazz band which was an even bigger feat.

One uncle finally gave up, the other continues to this day playing as a session drummer in Nashville...he has made many contacts through the years..o p ened for ZZ-Top etc etc...however he would tell you if he had to do it all over again he would have bitten the bullet and moved straight to LA or Nashville when he was younger.

My cousin who is now a drummer...married to Johnny Cash and June Cash's granddaughter is playing in Nasvhillle and touring all over but he's planning on moving to LA now.

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimholio
put a couiple tracks on an actions sports video soundtrack....

we have raised an entire generation of children on VHS/DVD when a 13 year old is too old for the lion king anbd toy story they look for other means of entertainment inside the routine they are use to .....this is why the rental and home dvd purchase numbers have exploded in the last four years.

....but i guess weare on top of that already

Hey Jim, thanks for your advice. I guess we are on top of that already. Hope your show goes well

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip
Isn't this a teenage boyband? You could always contact Lou Pearlman, the guy who got both Backstreet Boys and nSync off the ground.

*edit ... hey look at that...my 5,000th post.

Yep its an all boy rock band. All original music.

How easy is it to get a hold of Lou ?

congrats on your 5000 post

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonePhishing

I'll e-mail her and see what she has been up to lately and if there is any info I can give you!

Okay sounds great, keep me posted

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sickkittens
Post some mp3's here if you can. I'd like to hear a few tracks.

Sounds great I will do that this week. Just gotta figure where to upload them

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apx_bryan
It takes lots of work and lots of playing. Took us 5 years before our first record deal. His band has to have a following because he's gonna have to move units once a company signs him a puts an album out. If they can't move the units, they'll be dropped and probably owe some money.

What is your genre and whats the name of your group ?

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan

Yeh post them here so we can tell you how it is!

Thanks SoundMan,

I will upload them this week

Jdog1183 · 02-19-2004, 04:04 PM

I think the suggestion of getting a song or songs played on a local radio station is the best idea. you want people to want the music. try hitting up colleges n stuff and dropping off cd's n stuff. they prolly wont hesitate to play it.

Good way to get the name out there kinda ;]

Marcus Aurelius · 02-19-2004, 04:06 PM

what genre of music do they play? I may know someone to hook you up.

phogirl69 · 02-19-2004, 04:07 PM

What's a good way for someone to becone a "pop singer"? Not for a band, but just a regular singer? This person I know has a good image ; thin, sexy, exotic, pretty, which is important in pop, so there shouldn't be any problems with that. This person is also not interested in writing her own songs, but just wants to perform. She's 25 but looks a lot younger for her age, could pass for 18 so it would not be a problem to appeal to the younger trl generation? Unique thing about this person is that she is asian, and there aren't any famous ones around yet, so it could be something to set her apart. She's not the best singer, but not the worst. She can certainly sing like J-lo and Britney, but she's no Whitney Houston or anything.

What are the steps to becoming a pop singer, getting signed with a major label like Jive? This person I'm referring to is interested in conquering the TRL/mtv crowd, and pure pop music such as Britney style, J-lo, Thalia, Mandy Moore etc....

candyflip · 02-19-2004, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jasmine

Yep its an all boy rock band. All original music.

How easy is it to get a hold of Lou ?

congrats on your 5000 post

So they actually play instruments? That might not be something TransCon will work with.

Post some contact info here and I'll pass it along to the few people I have managed to keep in contact with from the Music Industry.

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by candyflip

So they actually play instruments? That might not be something TransCon will work with.

Post some contact info here and I'll pass it along to the few people I have managed to keep in contact with from the Music Industry.

Yep my son is lead guitarist and vocals and has written all the songs.

Whats your icq ?
I can send it to you that way.

Here is my icq 258036220

candyflip · 02-19-2004, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jasmine

Yep my son is lead guitarist and vocals and has written all the songs.

Whats your icq ?
I can send it to you that way.

Here is my icq 258036220

278138509

jasmine · 02-19-2004, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mdcq
what genre of music do they play? I may know someone to hook you up.

Rock Music

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jasmine Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,013	I do have some contacts with record labels thru one of my old friends in NYC. She is personal friends with someone from Arista Records. She is getting in touch with him this week to give him a copy of the boys CD. I just want to make sure I do not leave any stone unturned __________________ I've been getting paid by SexOnTheSide for 10 years!

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Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	There really is no short cuts. The best way is just to get out and play, build word of mouth and then maybe then they will get noticed. 99.9999% of everyone that thinks they have what it takes are actually shit.

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Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	And even after they get label interest it's all just a big bullshit run around game that most of the time ends in nothing.

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Ash@phpFX Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,292	it doesnt happen overnight, the band has to build a reputation for itself locally first. they should try to get as many gigs as possible and get their name out there. tell them to form a mailing list and sell cds at the gigs. Also when they have a bit of a following you can approach the equipment manufacturers for endorsement deals, even if its just a discount on the gear. all this helps build the bands profile and make it more attractive to the record labels. hope this helps

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phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	What's a good way for someone to becone a "pop singer"? Not for a band, but just a regular singer? This person I know has a good image ; thin, sexy, exotic, pretty, which is important in pop, so there shouldn't be any problems with that. This person is also not interested in writing her own songs, but just wants to perform. She's 25 but looks a lot younger for her age, could pass for 18 so it would not be a problem to appeal to the younger trl generation? Unique thing about this person is that she is asian, and there aren't any famous ones around yet, so it could be something to set her apart. She's not the best singer, but not the worst. She can certainly sing like J-lo and Britney, but she's no Whitney Houston or anything. What are the steps to becoming a pop singer, getting signed with a major label like Jive? This person I'm referring to is interested in conquering the TRL/mtv crowd, and pure pop music such as Britney style, J-lo, Thalia, Mandy Moore etc.... Last edited by phogirl69; 02-19-2004 at 04:12 PM..