How to turn junk traffic into CASH! - GoFuckYourself.com

p1mpdogg · 02-16-2004, 05:30 PM

How to turn junk traffic into CASH!
404 and other "error" traffic can be a headache. Let us worry about it.

This is a long standing question that MANY adult webmasters have asked themselves and even asked other webmasters. "What can I do with my 404 traffic?"

First let's start with where this traffic comes from:
1. A gallery on your domain. For example you submit www.bobsgalleriesz.com/Lisa/lisa.html . Surfers are getting smarter these days, and many surfers will go into the address bar and change the URL to: www.bobsgalleriesz.com/lisa/lisa2.html hoping to get new images. They will even do this with the .jpg or .gif.
2. Old links. These can be listed on search engines still, they can be linked on your site without you knowing it- or can be from other sites out on the net linking to a page that does not exist on your domains.

There's a lot of other places error traffic can come from, but the bulk of it will be from these methods.

You'd be amazed at how much 404 traffic your site actually gets. I thought I may get 50 uniques a day to 404. Turns out I was getting more like 2,000. This is just from galleries I may have removed, links that were old and removed but still semi cached on a users machine and more.

404 traffic is some of the hardest to convert. You can ask anyone. Unless you're a resident expert and have been doing it for years, you're not going to have much luck getting those users to click.

I tried a lot of methods of converting this traffic. I sent it to a hub, I sent it to a "general niche" tgp- and anything else I could think of. All this traffic did was eat at my bandwidth bill because the users either clicked around and started the cycle all over again, or they just LEFT my site and I lost a surfer. The problem also was it just was not enough traffic to really concern myself with on a daily basis. But if someone told me they could take that traffic and start converting it the same day I would be all over it!
The problem with sending 404 to other TGP, MGP, Link Lists etc is that once they find a gallery they like they will pull the same stunts and try to get the freebies. However if you use a 404 trap, you're going to force them into a decision. Chances are they will signup for SOMETHING.

Now don't forget, there are other types of traffic like this.
How about 403, 401 or 400 error documents? If someone goes to www.bobsgalleriesz.com/lisa/ and there is no index file, what happens? Most of the time a host is setup by default to show a "403 Forbidden" document that tells them they can not view the directory listing. That again is a WASTE! Why not send them to a 404 trap and get something for your time?

So really we have come down to ONE simple question: How can I make 404 type traffic turn into sales?
Answer: Use a 404 trap!
What is a 404 trap you ask? Simple. It is a landing page you can send 404, or any other type of "error document" traffic to. It is designed to grab the surfer and their attention, and have them signup to some sort of a program.

If you know you are not currently sending traffic to a 404 trap, or you are unsure - edit your .htaccess file and add the following: (or create a file called ".htaccess" and upload it to your main site directory)

ErrorDocument 400 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID
ErrorDocument 401 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID
ErrorDocument 403 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID
ErrorDocument 404 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID
ErrorDocument 500 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID

You will very soon find out what kind of traffic you were getting- and start seeing some money out of what you were THROWING AWAY before now.
Give it a try and see what you have been missing out on. Even if you currently have a 404 strategy, it never hurts to try something new. Change your links for a couple of days and see if Epic Cash can increase your sales.

Now you're probably wondering if there are any other uses for this dandy convert-o-matic page here. And the answer is YES there is. Launch the page as an exit popup. When a surfer leaves your site, launch this window. If they haven't bought anything from you- why not give it one last shot? It doesn't hurt and you could find yourself with an extra sale or 2 a day. Are you opposed to an extra $1,000 a month? Didn't think so!

Here's another idea:
- Put a link up offering access to porn for only $1
All of the sites advertised are $1 to join sites. So why not push that to surfers? $1 discount porn is a HUGE seller.
Note: Don't forget to mention that they will get a FREE DVD every month that they are a member.

Bottom Line: Stop throwing away your traffic. Send it to the Epic Cash 404 Trap and convert it!

wether you use Epic Cash or not, this will work with any program that is willing to setup and give you credit on your 404 traffic

dunefield · 02-16-2004, 05:37 PM

nice info

Oracle Porn · 02-16-2004, 05:37 PM

1) Too many popups....
2) Why not make a popup to my tgp? like:

http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOU...xit=thehun.net

MadCap · 02-16-2004, 05:39 PM

Good posti added that trap to 1 of my domains yesterday to test you guys on it.

Oracle Porn · 02-16-2004, 05:46 PM

btw great post!

and you should make pages like that by niche...

Doctor Dre · 02-16-2004, 05:48 PM

Yea on my 450k tgp I started redirecting my 404 traffic and it turned out to be over 20k uniques per day . My site started growing insanely from that traffic.

p1mpdogg · 02-16-2004, 05:57 PM

oracle, that is the entire point of a 404 trap.. its all wasted traffic, why not maximise on the potential for a sale?

Oracle Porn · 02-16-2004, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
oracle, that is the entire point of a 404 trap.. its all wasted traffic, why not maximise on the potential for a sale?

are you talking about the popups?

p1mpdogg · 02-16-2004, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

are you talking about the popups?

yep

Oracle Porn · 02-16-2004, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

yep

a lot of surfers close all windows when they see exit popups...
I think 1 exit popup is enough...

p1mpdogg · 02-16-2004, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

a lot of surfers close all windows when they see exit popups...
I think 1 exit popup is enough...

you runa tgp, i run paysites.. I am a pretty good judge if exits are effective or not.

Veterans Day · 02-16-2004, 06:14 PM

bump

Oracle Porn · 02-16-2004, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

you runa tgp, i run paysites.. I am a pretty good judge if exits are effective or not.

but you want MY traffic.....

BradShaw · 02-16-2004, 06:17 PM

I think whatever he said, he wasted his time since he is on just about everyones ignore. I hope he wasted alot of his oh so valuable time.

p1mpdogg · 02-16-2004, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

but you want MY traffic.....

well, no not really....

p1mpdogg · 02-16-2004, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
I think whatever he said, he wasted his time since he is on just about everyones ignore. I hope he wasted alot of his oh so valuable time.

you posted here didnt you?

lol

dumb jew

Brad Xtremepay · 02-16-2004, 06:28 PM

Nice

Meloman · 02-16-2004, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

a lot of surfers close all windows when they see exit popups...
I think 1 exit popup is enough...

Wrong. Popups make money. When I was a noob I also though 1 popup was enough.

People can bitch and moan about popups when it comes to your tgp and regular sponsor links on there, but this is 404 traffic. It's harder to convert so put away what you "think" you know about popups and follow the tried and true startegies of the experts who've made money with popup for years. 404 traffic is not traffic u have any reason to be "nice" to anyways imho.

With that said. I took a look at Epics 404 trap and I like it. There's good "click theory" involved. Most won't understand what's going on, but there's some good choices made on his trap setup like ending with a dialer after no one decided on using there Credit Card. Very good "click theory" and roadmap for the popups.

I use a similar setup with "my" 404 traffic.

Nice setup Pimpdog.

Harlot Cash · 02-16-2004, 06:34 PM

As the guy says - lot of cash to make on 404.

I do several thousand 404's a day and it is a big earner.

I would add this -
Don't try to be too cute and streatch your earning potential - 404 traffic will not take multiple pop ups etc - Show a good page with maybe 1$ sites and a saving money bar and a single pop - After that, you are probably going over the top

mijoon · 02-16-2004, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

you posted here didnt you?

lol

dumb jew

LOL !!

Love him or hate him , you ain't gonna out-smart PDog.

Brad Xtremepay · 02-16-2004, 06:38 PM

Harlot: that is a good point, and I see where you are coming from.

But there really isn't a need to be nice with these types of surfers. A clean site that converts 1:200 on GOOD solid tgp traffic may convert 1:2,000 on 404 traffic. Just because of the nature of it.

It depends on your tactics really, and whatever works for you works. But for the most part traps do a MUCH better job than a clean landing page and 1 exit.

SoftGalleries · 02-16-2004, 06:39 PM

make a long list of your sponsors and send all your junk traffic to there from all your sites...

example
http://www.softgalleries.com/i_love_404.htm

p1mpdogg · 02-16-2004, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoftGalleries
make a long list of your sponsors and send all your junk traffic to there from all your sites...

example
http://www.softgalleries.com/i_love_404.htm

and this is as easy as having 1 linkcode and getting credit on all sites/niches/programs within epiccash how?

Brad Xtremepay · 02-16-2004, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoftGalleries
make a long list of your sponsors and send all your junk traffic to there from all your sites...

example
http://www.softgalleries.com/i_love_404.htm

Does that convert??
I'm sure you could make it work a lot better if you increased the cont size 1 or 2px, and maybe added an exit or 2.

Brad Xtremepay · 02-16-2004, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

and this is as easy as having 1 linkcode and getting credit on all sites/niches/programs within epiccash how?

word

KaLi · 02-16-2004, 06:46 PM

Very good post. Its true though that with 404 traffic you have no real reason to be nice to the surfer. And with more pop ups, there is more potential. On the 1st, 2nd, 3rd pop up he may close them all, but the 4th pop up might be something that could interest him - maybe a pic of a girl he really likes - so then he clicks and you have a click to the paysite. There was no waste in that, just more potential.. Now on a tgp, I can see why there should be no more than 1 if any. That is a site a surfer will regularly return to, and if hes constantly being bugged by consoles, he wont return. Completely different story on the 404.

KaLi · 02-16-2004, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

and this is as easy as having 1 linkcode and getting credit on all sites/niches/programs within epiccash how?

I love p1mpdogg

Meloman · 02-16-2004, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay

Does that convert??
I'm sure you could make it work a lot better if you increased the cont size 1 or 2px, and maybe added an exit or 2.

I agree. I'd make the pixel size a bit bigger and then remove some of the links so there's not so much. Otherwise you have too many choices and dilute the hits imho.

And with a few exit console you'll see a nice increase as well.

I'd make the first exit push a bunch of free trial or $1 sites, then pop an email sponsor and then a dailer. Now you're at only 3 consoles which really isn't a lot and you'll see a nice $$$ increase.

Overal that is a really, really sweet page :-)

Just my

SoftGalleries · 02-16-2004, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

and this is as easy as having 1 linkcode and getting credit on all sites/niches/programs within epiccash how?

maybe its not easy like that... but it worth.. this section is online for 12-15 month and made many sales.. think like this... if they can convert your traffic to money.. you can do it better with a place like this... give a few hours and enjoy extra cash!

Quotealex · 02-16-2004, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Yea on my 450k tgp I started redirecting my 404 traffic and it turned out to be over 20k uniques per day . My site started growing insanely from that traffic.

Are your refering to the teen cj site you had 5-10 yrs ago?

Dwreck · 02-16-2004, 07:06 PM

Wow that was a good read some good ideas!!

SoftGalleries · 02-16-2004, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay

Does that convert??
I'm sure you could make it work a lot better if you increased the cont size 1 or 2px, and maybe added an exit or 2.

12px.. lemme try it...

here you go....
http://www.softgalleries.com/pay4pleasure_12px.html

i think big fonts says "here is a spam page.. runaway" :-)

Brad Xtremepay · 02-16-2004, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoftGalleries

12px.. lemme try it...

here you go....
http://www.softgalleries.com/pay4pleasure_12px.html

i think big fonts says "here is a spam page.. runaway" :-)

Hey, you never know man. Only way to find out is to test it. I PERSONALLY think it looks better, because now I can read it.

Meloman · 02-16-2004, 07:14 PM

I personally think it also looks better with the bigger font. Way easier to read. You may need to tweak the links under "Discounted Pay Sites" though since they wrap around now.

Give it a test for a week and see if sales increase :-)

Tuga · 02-16-2004, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

but you want MY traffic.....

Yeah! All 3k of it

slapass · 02-16-2004, 07:22 PM

Nice post dude and thanks for making it so easy. I am sending my 404 your way

PMdave · 02-16-2004, 07:22 PM

Really like to see BradShaws history... I'd bet good money that he clicked the "This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here] " link

.

Great post btw

SoftGalleries · 02-16-2004, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay

Hey, you never know man. Only way to find out is to test it. I PERSONALLY think it looks better, because now I can read it.

i was thinking i am the only old guy around.. LOL

well maye i can eleminate some of them and give one row for each program.. so i can use big fonts...

need to try... youre right...

Harlot Cash · 02-16-2004, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay
Harlot: that is a good point, and I see where you are coming from.

But there really isn't a need to be nice with these types of surfers. A clean site that converts 1:200 on GOOD solid tgp traffic may convert 1:2,000 on 404 traffic. Just because of the nature of it.

It depends on your tactics really, and whatever works for you works. But for the most part traps do a MUCH better job than a clean landing page and 1 exit.

Of course - I think we all treat the 404 page slightly differently in how much can we gain from it -
For me - I initially redirect to a page with a few galleries and dollar email links - But I also try to define that 404 traffic and attempt to send it to specific free sites, in case it doesn't go off and sign up anywhere -
We all know 404 is crap - But if it doesn't make cash from emails - if it doesn't make cash at the gallery links, then trading it off gives me another bite at the cherry -
My money bar is simply selling this traffic, and my pop also is a traffic seller -

But - There is bound to be a far better way - There always is!!!

Brad Xtremepay · 02-16-2004, 07:52 PM

Very valid points. Thanks Harlot!

JackRoyal · 02-16-2004, 08:23 PM

What about those popups that automatically fullscreen and hide the navbars so you have to ALT+F4 to close them. Some surfers are too dumb to use ALT+F4. And just put links to dialers

Oracle Porn · 02-16-2004, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harlot Cash
As the guy says - lot of cash to make on 404.

I do several thousand 404's a day and it is a big earner.

I would add this -
Don't try to be too cute and streatch your earning potential - 404 traffic will not take multiple pop ups etc - Show a good page with maybe 1$ sites and a saving money bar and a single pop - After that, you are probably going over the top

so your saying no pop-ups?

p1mpdogg · 02-16-2004, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JackRoyal
What about those popups that automatically fullscreen and hide the navbars so you have to ALT+F4 to close them. Some surfers are too dumb to use ALT+F4. And just put links to dialers

point out where we have those.

because I made sure that we did not do any of that crap.

KaLi · 02-17-2004, 01:30 AM

p1impdogg, can you hit me up on icq... thanks!

johnbosh · 02-17-2004, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn

a lot of surfers close all windows when they see exit popups...
I think 1 exit popup is enough...

better no popups

Maximillion · 02-17-2004, 01:48 AM

good read, i use similar methods for my 404 traffic.

Brad Xtremepay · 02-17-2004, 09:24 AM

whoop

Tofu · 02-17-2004, 09:41 AM

a good read indeed.

fatal attraction · 07-09-2005, 07:24 PM

I know this is a old post, but a good one! I've read quite a few threads about 404 traffic lately, before I read this, I didn't do shit with my 404 traffic. Hope someone gets something out of it!

V_RocKs · 07-14-2005, 05:03 AM

This needs another bump

02-16-2004, 05:30 PM	#1
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	How to turn junk traffic into CASH! How to turn junk traffic into CASH! 404 and other "error" traffic can be a headache. Let us worry about it. This is a long standing question that MANY adult webmasters have asked themselves and even asked other webmasters. "What can I do with my 404 traffic?" First let's start with where this traffic comes from: 1. A gallery on your domain. For example you submit www.bobsgalleriesz.com/Lisa/lisa.html . Surfers are getting smarter these days, and many surfers will go into the address bar and change the URL to: www.bobsgalleriesz.com/lisa/lisa2.html hoping to get new images. They will even do this with the .jpg or .gif. 2. Old links. These can be listed on search engines still, they can be linked on your site without you knowing it- or can be from other sites out on the net linking to a page that does not exist on your domains. There's a lot of other places error traffic can come from, but the bulk of it will be from these methods. You'd be amazed at how much 404 traffic your site actually gets. I thought I may get 50 uniques a day to 404. Turns out I was getting more like 2,000. This is just from galleries I may have removed, links that were old and removed but still semi cached on a users machine and more. 404 traffic is some of the hardest to convert. You can ask anyone. Unless you're a resident expert and have been doing it for years, you're not going to have much luck getting those users to click. I tried a lot of methods of converting this traffic. I sent it to a hub, I sent it to a "general niche" tgp- and anything else I could think of. All this traffic did was eat at my bandwidth bill because the users either clicked around and started the cycle all over again, or they just LEFT my site and I lost a surfer. The problem also was it just was not enough traffic to really concern myself with on a daily basis. But if someone told me they could take that traffic and start converting it the same day I would be all over it! The problem with sending 404 to other TGP, MGP, Link Lists etc is that once they find a gallery they like they will pull the same stunts and try to get the freebies. However if you use a 404 trap, you're going to force them into a decision. Chances are they will signup for SOMETHING. Now don't forget, there are other types of traffic like this. How about 403, 401 or 400 error documents? If someone goes to www.bobsgalleriesz.com/lisa/ and there is no index file, what happens? Most of the time a host is setup by default to show a "403 Forbidden" document that tells them they can not view the directory listing. That again is a WASTE! Why not send them to a 404 trap and get something for your time? So really we have come down to ONE simple question: How can I make 404 type traffic turn into sales? Answer: Use a 404 trap! What is a 404 trap you ask? Simple. It is a landing page you can send 404, or any other type of "error document" traffic to. It is designed to grab the surfer and their attention, and have them signup to some sort of a program. If you know you are not currently sending traffic to a 404 trap, or you are unsure - edit your .htaccess file and add the following: (or create a file called ".htaccess" and upload it to your main site directory) ErrorDocument 400 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID ErrorDocument 401 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID ErrorDocument 403 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID ErrorDocument 404 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID ErrorDocument 500 http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOUREPICID You will very soon find out what kind of traffic you were getting- and start seeing some money out of what you were THROWING AWAY before now. Give it a try and see what you have been missing out on. Even if you currently have a 404 strategy, it never hurts to try something new. Change your links for a couple of days and see if Epic Cash can increase your sales. Now you're probably wondering if there are any other uses for this dandy convert-o-matic page here. And the answer is YES there is. Launch the page as an exit popup. When a surfer leaves your site, launch this window. If they haven't bought anything from you- why not give it one last shot? It doesn't hurt and you could find yourself with an extra sale or 2 a day. Are you opposed to an extra $1,000 a month? Didn't think so! Here's another idea: - Put a link up offering access to porn for only $1 All of the sites advertised are $1 to join sites. So why not push that to surfers? $1 discount porn is a HUGE seller. Note: Don't forget to mention that they will get a FREE DVD every month that they are a member. Bottom Line: Stop throwing away your traffic. Send it to the Epic Cash 404 Trap and convert it! wether you use Epic Cash or not, this will work with any program that is willing to setup and give you credit on your 404 traffic __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

02-16-2004, 05:37 PM	#2
dunefield www.barely18movies.com Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 10,920	nice info __________________

02-16-2004, 05:37 PM	#3
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	1) Too many popups.... 2) Why not make a popup to my tgp? like: http://www.epicgals.com/epic404/?YOU...xit=thehun.net __________________

02-16-2004, 05:46 PM	#5
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	btw great post! and you should make pages like that by niche... __________________

02-16-2004, 05:57 PM	#7
p1mpdogg Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16,714	oracle, that is the entire point of a 404 trap.. its all wasted traffic, why not maximise on the potential for a sale? __________________ A fast fortune is easy to earn! Just go with a winner!

02-16-2004, 05:39 PM	#4
MadCap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: 137771650 Minneapolis MN Posts: 2,357	Good posti added that trap to 1 of my domains yesterday to test you guys on it.

02-16-2004, 06:14 PM	#12
Veterans Day Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Windy City Posts: 8,403	bump __________________ Build a Massive Traffic Network, Hands FREE, Totally Automated

02-16-2004, 06:17 PM	#14
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	I think whatever he said, he wasted his time since he is on just about everyones ignore. I hope he wasted alot of his oh so valuable time. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

02-16-2004, 06:28 PM	#17
Brad Xtremepay So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,000	Nice

02-16-2004, 06:34 PM	#19
Harlot Cash Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 117	As the guy says - lot of cash to make on 404. I do several thousand 404's a day and it is a big earner. I would add this - Don't try to be too cute and streatch your earning potential - 404 traffic will not take multiple pop ups etc - Show a good page with maybe 1$ sites and a saving money bar and a single pop - After that, you are probably going over the top __________________ Harlot Cash

02-16-2004, 06:38 PM	#21
Brad Xtremepay So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,000	Harlot: that is a good point, and I see where you are coming from. But there really isn't a need to be nice with these types of surfers. A clean site that converts 1:200 on GOOD solid tgp traffic may convert 1:2,000 on 404 traffic. Just because of the nature of it. It depends on your tactics really, and whatever works for you works. But for the most part traps do a MUCH better job than a clean landing page and 1 exit.

02-16-2004, 06:39 PM	#22
SoftGalleries Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: i am @ home.. Where are you? Posts: 247	make a long list of your sponsors and send all your junk traffic to there from all your sites... example http://www.softgalleries.com/i_love_404.htm __________________ http://www.SoftGalleries.com

02-16-2004, 06:46 PM	#26
KaLi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lomita, CA Posts: 4,371	Very good post. Its true though that with 404 traffic you have no real reason to be nice to the surfer. And with more pop ups, there is more potential. On the 1st, 2nd, 3rd pop up he may close them all, but the 4th pop up might be something that could interest him - maybe a pic of a girl he really likes - so then he clicks and you have a click to the paysite. There was no waste in that, just more potential.. Now on a tgp, I can see why there should be no more than 1 if any. That is a site a surfer will regularly return to, and if hes constantly being bugged by consoles, he wont return. Completely different story on the 404. __________________ icq:160-417-630

02-16-2004, 07:06 PM	#31
Dwreck Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,362	Wow that was a good read some good ideas!! __________________ Derek Dwreck Smout Program Manager Icq 165976549 Skype derekthomassmout

02-16-2004, 07:14 PM	#34
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	I personally think it also looks better with the bigger font. Way easier to read. You may need to tweak the links under "Discounted Pay Sites" though since they wrap around now. Give it a test for a week and see if sales increase :-)

02-16-2004, 07:22 PM	#36
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Nice post dude and thanks for making it so easy. I am sending my 404 your way

02-16-2004, 07:22 PM	#37
PMdave Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,517	Really like to see BradShaws history... I'd bet good money that he clicked the "This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here] " link . Great post btw

02-16-2004, 07:52 PM	#40
Brad Xtremepay So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,000	Very valid points. Thanks Harlot!

02-16-2004, 08:23 PM	#41
JackRoyal Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 65	What about those popups that automatically fullscreen and hide the navbars so you have to ALT+F4 to close them. Some surfers are too dumb to use ALT+F4. And just put links to dialers

02-17-2004, 01:30 AM	#44
KaLi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lomita, CA Posts: 4,371	p1impdogg, can you hit me up on icq... thanks! __________________ icq:160-417-630

02-17-2004, 01:48 AM	#46
Maximillion Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: scrooge mcducks money bin Posts: 795	good read, i use similar methods for my 404 traffic. __________________ Only $600 bucks for this premium domain: email maximillion76 -at- gmail (Not to be confused with Topbucks' "AllGayRealityPass.com")

02-17-2004, 09:24 AM	#47
Brad Xtremepay So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,000	whoop

02-17-2004, 09:41 AM	#48
Tofu The Video Specialist Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Posts: 5,615	a good read indeed. __________________ tofu916 video services - tofu916.com twitter: tofu916 \| skype: tofu916 \| tel: 916-672-TOFU \| e: tofu # tofu916.com

07-09-2005, 07:24 PM	#49
fatal attraction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: where ever he is! Posts: 6,522	I know this is a old post, but a good one! I've read quite a few threads about 404 traffic lately, before I read this, I didn't do shit with my 404 traffic. Hope someone gets something out of it!

07-14-2005, 05:03 AM	#50
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	This needs another bump