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Old 01-19-2004, 05:59 AM   #1
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Fuck Martin Luther King day & Black History Month - That's racist

Why doesnt every ethnic group have a day dedicated to one of the people they feel worthy?

Why doesnt every ethnic group have a month dedicated towards learning their history?

Why is there no Asian History Month? No Mexican history month?

This is very racist IMHO, We need to put a stop to singling out black men for a day, and singling out the black community for a month!
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:04 AM   #2
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Its a way to say we are sorry for what are fore fathers did.
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:06 AM   #3
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:08 AM   #4
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Its a way to say we are sorry for what are fore fathers did.
Naw. There is black history month up here in canada too.

The jews went through just as much (if not more) than blacks and there is no month dedicated towards them. There isnt a single jewish holiday where all govt offices are shut down.

Discrimination?
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:10 AM   #5
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so its a holiday big deal
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:11 AM   #6
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so its a holiday big deal
you're missing the point
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:18 AM   #7
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No im starting to see the point. I will tell you like i tell everyone else. Till the day we see everyone as equal and learn to live without that word racisim this world will never get any better.
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the "month" thingy seems kind of dumb to me - if you want to learn about cultural heritage you should learn about it whenever you want, not during the course of one particular month of the year yea ... sort of racist (in the affirmative action kind of way) that their arent these "months" for other minorities, or crackers like me for that matter.

I for one fully support MLK Day (im a white dude). This guy was a bad mofo - i dont want to think of what kind of world it would be without him having lived. Its sad enough to see it in pictures and hear about it from my grandmother.

I agree with the essence of your statement that the minority holidays are not equally dispersed - but this is not just some holiday for blacks. This was a dude that changed America for the better, and will be in history books 1000 years from now. I consider it a holiday for myself too, and im celebrating it
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:23 AM   #9
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There isnt a single jewish holiday where all govt offices are shut down.

Discrimination?
We have one... it's called Christmas..
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:24 AM   #10
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Cultural awareness month is a positive thing.

Black history month should be categorized with Cultural awareness month. That is a month designed to learn more about your heritage and appreciate it.

As far as MLK day... He was a great man with big hopes that overcame large obstacles. What he did was important and he deserves a day to be recognized.

Do you think Veterans day should disappear as well? He fought just as much as they did for freedom.
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ok a list history class here. First martin luther was a great man who repersented all walks of live. His over all goal was for every man,women and clild of every race to live together in harmony. It is just a stero type that because he was a afro american man this holiday day is for the "black man. Sorry you are wrong it is for evey women,man and child. what he did and said was for all of us. You should be celebrateing This holiday day that a man back in those times were things were no were equal had the courage to step foward and take oath to teach peace, love, and loyaltiy for all.
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:34 AM   #13
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I was going to put my in but I see this thread getting very stupid very soon
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:36 AM   #14
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the "month" thingy seems kind of dumb to me - if you want to learn about cultural heritage you should learn about it whenever you want, not during the course of one particular month of the year yea ... sort of racist (in the affirmative action kind of way) that their arent these "months" for other minorities, or crackers like me for that matter.

I for one fully support MLK Day (im a white dude). This guy was a bad mofo - i dont want to think of what kind of world it would be without him having lived. Its sad enough to see it in pictures and hear about it from my grandmother.

I agree with the essence of your statement that the minority holidays are not equally dispersed - but this is not just some holiday for blacks. This was a dude that changed America for the better, and will be in history books 1000 years from now. I consider it a holiday for myself too, and im celebrating it
Don?t get me wrong as I?m not saying MLK is bad, but what about every person who did something special for which they should maybe have their own holiday, and don?t?

Making the exception for someone because of his race or what they did for them would still be considered racism. After all isn?t any decision based on race racism? (regardless of the outcome)
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Don?t get me wrong as I?m not saying MLK is bad, but what about every person who did something special for which they should maybe have their own holiday, and don?t?

Making the exception for someone because of his race or what they did for them would still be considered racism. After all isn?t any decision based on race racism? (regardless of the outcome)
You're Canadian..Stay out of our business!

You're just mad that you don't get the day off....hater!
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I was going to put my in but I see this thread getting very stupid very soon
Same here. So many ignorant people on here, just makes me sick. Here's another thread... will NEVER do biz with any of these cocksuckers http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=222882
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ok a list history class here. First martin luther was a great man who repersented all walks of live. His over all goal was for every man,women and clild of every race to live together in harmony. It is just a stero type that because he was a afro american man this holiday day is for the "black man. Sorry you are wrong it is for evey women,man and child. what he did and said was for all of us. You should be celebrateing This holiday day that a man back in those times were things were no were equal had the courage to step foward and take oath to teach peace, love, and loyaltiy for all.
Of course, and if it were a mexican teaching the same thing do you believe it would have had the same impact?
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Why doesnt every ethnic group have a day dedicated to one of the people they feel worthy?

Why doesnt every ethnic group have a month dedicated towards learning their history?

Why is there no Asian History Month? No Mexican history month?

This is very racist IMHO, We need to put a stop to singling out black men for a day, and singling out the black community for a month!
I think no race should be given a day or a month... if we want to erradicate racism, they have to begin with not discriminating against every other race except for the 'race of the day' first....

fuck MLK.... fuck george washington... fuck YOU.... fuck all your MOTHERS....
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well i suggest you get your local white and yellow pages out. Contact your logal goverment and and quiz them. they are the ones who make the laws and the voters are the the ones who put them in there seat.
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Ignorance can be cured, but stupidity is forever. Maybe we should have a national holiday for stupid people, there seem to be a lot of them.
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:42 AM   #21
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Old 01-19-2004, 06:43 AM   #22
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Don?t get me wrong as I?m not saying MLK is bad, but what about every person who did something special for which they should maybe have their own holiday, and don?t?

Making the exception for someone because of his race or what they did for them would still be considered racism. After all isn?t any decision based on race racism? (regardless of the outcome)
Nah i dont misunderstand you ... im not one of those morons that yell racist just cause you question shit. Those who dont question life are called morons.

I would have to ask you, who are you referring to?
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what about every person who did something special for which they should maybe have their own holiday, and don?t?
I dont see how MLK day is based on race, well, lemme restate. its not based on race for me. for me it is a celebration of a bold, brave, extraordinary american who changed the country.
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Same here. So many ignorant people on here, just makes me sick. Here's another thread... will NEVER do biz with any of these cocksuckers http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=222882
So i'm ignorant because i ask questions to help better understand something?

What i hear you saying is that it is ok to have a Black History month but not to have a history month for other ethnic groups? And if you should ever question it then your're racist?
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I think no race should be given a day or a month... if we want to erradicate racism, they have to begin with not discriminating against every other race except for the 'race of the day' first....

fuck MLK.... fuck george washington... fuck YOU.... fuck all your MOTHERS....
Well said.

You see people, now this would be "Equal".
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On a similar note, why do Black, Asian, Mexican (etc etc) studies always promote/teach positive history, culture, etc of the respective ethnic group, yet White studes (an official College course) teach negative junk about White people?

It seems to me that unless you hate yourself, you are a racist.
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On a similar note, why do Black, Asian, Mexican (etc etc) studies always promote/teach positive history, culture, etc of the respective ethnic group, yet White studes (an official College course) teach negative junk about White people?

It seems to me that unless you hate yourself, you are a racist.
he he ... true ... well i dont hate myself but i like to be informed about the negative things that my ancestors did. Its a bit fucked up though when im part irish, french, prussian, cherokee, and god knows what else... i guess i can disapprove of what my white european ancestors did to my native american ancestors

if you want the truth you gotta go out and find it yourself, school courses are rarely non-biased or accurate unless you have a good passionate teacher. For christ sake you want to complain about a national holiday, how about Columbus day? That guy was a fucking scumbag. Why do we celebrate that shit? ... answer=because a lot of italian americans would be pissed if we didnt. 90% of my best friends are guidomericans but Columbus Day is bullshit and i dont have a problem telling them that.
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he he ... true ... well i dont hate myself but i like to be informed about the negative things that my ancestors did. Its a bit fucked up though when im part irish, french, prussian, cherokee, and god knows what else... i guess i can disapprove of what my white european ancestors did to my native american ancestors

if you want the truth you gotta go out and find it yourself, school courses are rarely non-biased or accurate unless you have a good passionate teacher. For christ sake you want to complain about a national holiday, how about Columbus day? That guy was a fucking scumbag. Why do we celebrate that shit? ... answer=because a lot of italian americans would be pissed if we didnt. 90% of my best friends are guidomericans but Columbus Day is bullshit and i dont have a problem telling them that.
I agree with most of what you've said. As much as some may like to forget their past that will only lead to history repeating itself.

When it comes to our ancestors, they may have done things which _THEY_ should be ashamed of, not me. Should I be ashamed because of my Jewish religion or maybe that my dad is from Portugal and my mom from morocco? I'm proud of who and what I am.

In short, Yes I am Jewish and no I don?t hold any German responsible for any of the crimes committed during world war 2 (unless they did have involvement in it), just as the black shouldn?t hold any one person responsible for enslaving their ancestors. It's only repeating the cycle. Hell, i even own a German car and helped to support their economy a little.

Point is, where is my Jewish History Month, Why doesn?t the government shutdown to celebrate my holidays?

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well i suggest you get your local white and yellow pages out. Contact your local goverment and and quiz them. they are the ones who make the laws and the voters are the the ones who put them in there seat.
ok for the second time....
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ok for the second time....
You're still missing the point.
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if you want the truth you gotta go out and find it yourself, school courses are rarely non-biased or accurate unless you have a good passionate teacher. For christ sake you want to complain about a national holiday, how about Columbus day? That guy was a fucking scumbag. Why do we celebrate that shit? ... answer=because a lot of italian americans would be pissed if we didnt. 90% of my best friends are guidomericans but Columbus Day is bullshit and i dont have a problem telling them that.
Excuse my ignorance, but why is Columbus so bad? He made a remarkable discovery, but other than that I am ignorant to anything bad HE did?
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Of course, and if it were a mexican teaching the same thing do you believe it would have had the same impact?
Well fucking DUH! If a mexican was fighting for the same freedoms and did everything the same, then yes!
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I agree with most of what you've said. As much as some may like to forget their past that will only lead to history repeating itself.

When it comes to our ancestors, they may have done things which _THEY_ should be ashamed of, not me. Should I be ashamed because of my Jewish religion or maybe that my dad is from Portugal and my mom from morocco? I'm proud of who and what I am.

In short, Yes I am Jewish and no I don?t hold any German responsible for any of the crimes committed during world war 2 (unless they did have involvement in it), just as the black shouldn?t hold any one person responsible for enslaving their ancestors. It's only repeating the cycle. Hell, i even own a German car and helped to support their economy a little.

Point is, where is my Jewish History Month, Why doesn?t the government shutdown to celebrate my holidays?
Nice mix! Did you get any of the languages? Portuguese, Arabic, French? I speak a few languages but not portugues which sucks cuz im heading to Brazil next week ... I hope they comprende espagnol.

I guess the point is, this is a national holiday for a person ... if there was a similar dude who did something to liberate jews in america, i suppose there would merit a holiday commemorating that person. I think were talking apples and oranges here. MLK is not a religious holiday, i dont think of it as an african american holiday, i think its an american holiday celebrating an amazing dude... if americans took a day off for every religions holidays we'd never be work, and then we'd be french

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yea its racist and we have it because some black people have nothing better to do than bitch and moan untill the government caves .............. i dont mind it too much tho because i get a day off from classes
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edit! c'est JUSTE une blague, je voulais dire
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I guess the point is, this is a national holiday for a person ... if there was a similar dude who did something to liberate jews in america, i suppose there would merit a holiday commemorating that person. I think were talking apples and oranges here. MLK is not a religious holiday, i dont think of it as an african american holiday, i think its an american holiday celebrating an amazing dude... if americans took a day off for every religions holidays we'd never be work, and then we'd be french
What about the brave Americans who liberated the whole of America from the British? MLK (from what I know) is the only person who has a national holiday in his name. One would think that someone such as George Washington is a hell of a lot more deserving.

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This is a holiday for everybody not just one ethnic group. Why dont you under stand that?
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You're obviously to young to remember the recent past. We're only talking 50 years ago that things were way different for black Americans.

Pictures speaks volumes as always.



The swift American Justice system for black citizens:



Imagine not even being allowed into the same movie theater as whites.



Look at the ladies bathroom door sign:




Martin Luther King was one of this country's most important leaders and provided the platform to change things during the turbulent 60's.
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#1, independence day, it comes every year on the 4th of july.
#2, from what you know ... there is also Columbus day.
#3, george's national holiday will be here in less than a month.
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Old 01-19-2004, 08:34 AM   #44
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A: Why doesnt every ethnic group have a day dedicated to one of the people they feel worthy?

B: Why doesnt every ethnic group have a month dedicated towards learning their history?

C: Why is there no Asian History Month? No Mexican history month?

This is very racist IMHO, We need to put a stop to singling out black men for a day, and singling out the black community for a month!
A: They do, it's called the Rest of the Year!
B: See A
C: Because none of those ethnic groups went through what African Americans did to get to this country. I'm not for the idea of paying reparations for what my forefathers did but to give AA's a month to celebrate their history - I'm all for it.

Martin Luther King Jr. did a lot for the progress of Civil Right and he does deserve a day to honor that.

This thread is idiotic and I can't believe I actually replied.
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Old 01-19-2004, 09:12 AM   #45
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ok a list history class here. First martin luther was a great man who repersented all walks of live. His over all goal was for every man,women and clild of every race to live together in harmony. It is just a stero type that because he was a afro american man this holiday day is for the "black man. Sorry you are wrong it is for evey women,man and child. what he did and said was for all of us. You should be celebrateing This holiday day that a man back in those times were things were no were equal had the courage to step foward and take oath to teach peace, love, and loyaltiy for all.


Very well said....
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Old 01-19-2004, 09:41 AM   #46
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I dont see how MLK day is based on race, well, lemme restate. its not based on race for me. for me it is a celebration of a bold, brave, extraordinary american who changed the country.
i think i see his point and if it's laid out a bit more then people would understand.

there is a black history month, there is cinco de mayo, and there are the jewish holidays. nothing is dedicated to asians, indians, native american's, etc....

at no time is there a "white" holiday (you cannot count presidents day or any of that stuff) and no one gets off for the jewish holidays. you have to be jewish to take the day or days off and in most instances, you have to take a personal day rather then it being a national holiday unless you work for an all jewish company.

mlk day is considered a national holiday and febuary is a dedicated black history month whereas every other race pretty much gets nothing.

i agree there there are quite a few people who have done a lot for this country and even the world who should get the same respect for a day and/or month as mlk. why not have an einstein month or day, why not have a graham-bell month or day (he certainly did a lot for the world!); you see what i am getting at.

there's nothing "racist" perse but there is something wrong where those who have made a major inpact on the world should receive the same attention as mlk.
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:03 AM   #47
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were talking apples and oranges here. Name me a person representing the white, jewish, mexican, asian , ..., race and why that person should be honored for what he did in america, and then we have a discussion and a potential holiday.

Every inch of these United States was stolen not too damn long ago in the grand scheme of things. Who is white anyways? everyone is a mixture of something or originally imported from somewhere.

Im all for equal recognition of all ethnicities and not just giving black people a holiday, but to me this is a holiday for American Blacks, American Jews, American Italians, all americans... based on one specific dude, not an ethnicity or religious affiliation. MLK wanted ALL of us holding hands ... an idealist yes, but he did change shit.

by the way, antonio meucci invented the phone
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:10 AM   #48
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were talking apples and oranges here. Name me a person representing the white, jewish, mexican, asian , ..., race and why that person should be honored for what he did in america, and then we have a discussion and a potential holiday.

Every inch of these United States was stolen not too damn long ago in the grand scheme of things. Who is white anyways? everyone is a mixture of something or originally imported from somewhere.

Im all for equal recognition of all ethnicities and not just giving black people a holiday, but to me this is a holiday for American Blacks, American Jews, American Italians, all americans... based on one specific dude, not an ethnicity or religious affiliation. MLK wanted ALL of us holding hands ... an idealist yes, but he did change shit.

by the way, antonio meucci invented the phone
well if you believe he changed shit then so did the inventor of the atomic bomb, so did the wright brothers and those two people (regardless of personal opinions) changed the world forever; not a race the WORLD!

and btw, why doesnt this county have a native american day? they were robbed more then the blacks and jews combined!
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:17 AM   #49
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well if you believe he changed shit then so did the inventor of the atomic bomb, so did the wright brothers and those two people (regardless of personal opinions) changed the world forever; not a race the WORLD!

and btw, why doesnt this county have a native american day? they were robbed more then the blacks and jews combined!
Very good point! The natives showed the white man how to live off the land, how to make it through the winter season. Their land was then stolen and you think they would at least get a national holiday out of it... At least they got the right to self-government although I don't think that will last too much longer since it could be deemed a terrorist threat.
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