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If you do pay Acacia their cut, are you going to be able to eat that money yourselves and not reduce the pay of your affiliates? Maybe you don't shave now, but is that something in the future because now you have an extra percentage of overhead? Don't you think this is a waste of money if the patent does get overturned, I mean do you guys honestly feel you will get money back for bogus contracts and monies paid? You guys keep saying that this is a business decision and you made the business decision, well in a sense affiliates are "partners" in your business. Without them you are nothing, yet did any of your affiliates get questioned if they wanted to take the risk, or fight for your company? Instead you assumed you made the right decisions based on your feelings and ideas vs. what your affiliates want. Why not just talk to your affiliates and have them all chip in $1 of each sale to go to IMPA to fight the patent? There are other ways to accomplish the same goal but the attitude that you truly did this just because of your affiliates is pure BS. Whether someone boycotts you guys or not its their decision and I'm in no way bashing your or your business practices, I just think the attitude of "We did this for you!" is completely wrong.
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They are doing exactly what Berman said they would *not* do... they are going after the content producers, the sponsors who use the content, and the webmasters who link to the sponsors (or use their own bought content to link to sponsors). Triple dipping. |
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Come judgement day the folks that fight this shit will be winnners. You wont be in the victory circle bro ![]() I hate this kinda thing I really do in the deepest of my heart. These are things that make us agree and disagree and ultimatly decide where a stand is taken. Thats what separates people as a whole.
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sometimes in business we make choices that we dont like, but thats what it is, a business decission. so because we settled we are now allies? fuck acacia, its total bullshit. But rather than spend all this money on fighting it, we chose to continue with business as usual and make affiliates money. what do you not understand about this? do you run a business? If you are so heroic, why dont you fight them and let me know how it works out for you. Im not here to make a fassion statement, I am here to make money. fuck all of you that are here for any other reason.
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....back to the drawing board.
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ok, so you want me to send out 5k newsletters and ask for input from everyone on how we should run our business? there are a few hundred webmaster programs out there, If you are not happy with the one you are with for the decissions they make, promote someone else. its really that simple. and somehow you are relating what we pay acacia to us shaving? I wont even reply to that ignorant comment. we did this for US and our affiliates. The fact is and still remains that our affiliates cant be touched. talk all the shit you want about how we might word some of our posts. but the fact still remains, that epiccash affiliates are immune.
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"Im not here to make a fassion statement, I am here to make money."
You insult even the most succesful people in this industry. Thats a bummer as well.
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And Trey, a thread like this can't have come as a big surprise to you. I'm not sure why you're on here telling people to "get fucked" etc, I mean really... at the time you first decided to settle you must have known somewhere in your mind that there was bound to be a backlash about it. And, trust me on this one as well..... the companies that DO fight and DO manage to invalidate this patent are going to be raved about as heroes for years to come. Yours however.....
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you are just typing the same shit thats been typed for months on the subject. If its popularity I was seeking, I would kiss everyones ass. I deal with the smart ones that want to make money, and can put the BS aside. If you choose to not promote me because I 'sold out' then you are the idiot. We pay and convert well. thats all affiliates should give a fuck about. your heroic attitude is admirable, but get real. when the pressure is on, you would fold like a 2 dollar whore.
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This is true if affilates only promote you correct? If they promote any other programs that acacia has no deal with then that statment is for shit right? So is this a way of promoting your program down the line, telling webmasters they are safe?
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I am not debating whether this was a good business decision or not, or what I would do in your place. I am showing that AsylumN made a good point when he said: Quote:
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No one said you were shaving, I was simply trying to make a point about increase overhead due to paying off Acacia, but instead of you responding like a business man and re-assuring your affiliates that wouldn't happen you just say my comment was ignorant. And how many of your affiliates ONLY promote your program? So they cannot be touched through your sites..woopie, that doesn't do anything for the business as a whole. Those same affiliates could still be liable through other programs, granted that is not your concern, but YOUR affiliates CAN still be touched and sued. What would be better for the affiliates is fighting the patent so that all affiliates off yours that also promote other programs are not liable. Re: sending out 5k emails , who suggested that? Again my comments were geared toward "We did this for the webmasters" yet they had no say in it. Good luck with your program.
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what about that do YOU not understand? I have the contract here. you dont.
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Brother, all I can say is you don't know me very well. I've BEEN taken to court before, chose to fight not settle, and won. I've had charges laid against me, chose to fight them, and WON. Put me through hell but I'm a better man for it today. I would rather spend 30 grand on a defence than see some vulture-extortionists walk off with my hard-earned money. After I won I would sue for recompensation of legal costs, duress, financial hardship or anything else my lawyer could dream up. All I'm saying is it's better to throw in with those who are fighting rather than folding "like a 2 dollar whore" and making the overall fight that much harder.
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Bro, we are all in this together. There is no room for squirming here. I am "the affiliate", you are "the program owner"..... big deal. Guys like me are no less an important component in the food chain than you. If you don't know that already, there is yet another reason not to promote you. Do you really not know that?
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and you dont promote me anyways, so why is it even an issue? Dont worry about what I know, Im obviously doing something right, but I wont get into pissing match with you over my success. I am not your bro, you are twisting this shit around like I sold everyone out. when in fact its the complete opposite.
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Sounds like they would get your affiliate list from the books considering that is where they will figure out how much you owe them. You talk so highly of this contract, why dont you post the details of the contract, unless there is something in there you dont want people to see. Stop hiding behind it and produce it so your affiliates can know what you've gotten them into. |
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but I see it but as an extortion, I doin't pay ho's....therefore, not in your fucking dream! your ass fuckin' techniques SCARE me! |
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you are not even worth the time scammer
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you are patently stupid and this is why pimpdog left you....just to set the record straight.... it has nothing to do wiht your ass fucking habits. |
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i guess its safe to say you didnt choke on anything at dinner eh serge?
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I only currently promote one sponsor on that list, but that too is about to change. The reason this concerns me is because *your* decisions sometimes affect much more than just *your* business. Sometimes *your* decisions affect the entire industry, and this could very well be one of those times. Maybe when other programs see a thread like this they might think harder about the best course of action, who knows. All I know is the more companies who decide to fight, the better the chances of defeating the extortion. Don't tell me you don't want to see Acacia go down in flames. If you do, then we have that in common.
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You call me a scammer? I'm not the one who uses stolen content on their sites (like you did when you used my screen caps even after I told you that you didn't have permission?). How about the bill you didn't pay? How about the excessive spam I was getting from you? How about the music in your GFY banner that you have, you telling me you licensed the music from the recording studio? Yet I'm the scammer eh? You say you're not out for the publicity? Why don't you explain the banner you have up on GFY? You may call it an AD but i'm sure the space could have been better spent promoting the program instead of welcoming yourself back. I think i'm not worth the time because i'm raising a valid point. Post the contract and shut me (and im sure a lot of other people) up |
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