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DVTimes · 12-27-2003, 05:59 AM

Why music could be the next porn

Porn sites are very much saturated on the market, and so clever webmasters may want to diversify.

Porn on the net works well as it satisfied many wants and needs, such as:
* Availability
* Cost
* Ease of access
* Available any time

Even today the 'old boys' of porn seem to fail to understand the net (Playboy, Penthouse), while the little man has jumped in and done what the big boys should have.

So how about music? Record firms are failing both consumer and the musicians. They produce overpriced CD's and only what they feel will sell. This leaves many bands unable to sell, and those that do may only sell the odd single.

So why not the webmaster jump in. With MP3 files being not much bigger than photographs, and yet produce high quality sound. Why not sell files from your site the same way as porn?

It would seem sensible for small record studios to set them selves up as content producers, recording records then selling them to websites.

In the same way as you get different porn sites (i.e. bondage, young, Asian and so on), why not the same for music sites (i.e., 80's, pop, rock, punk and so on).

Plus as music is not a problem for most countries, one would think webmasters would have an easer time legally.

- Jesus Christ - · 12-27-2003, 06:02 AM

This is stupid on so many levels I'm not even gonna get into it.

Toni · 12-27-2003, 06:04 AM

I don?t think small webmasters can make any big money through that, only big companies/sites can make real profits, basically the companies with own content (songs) and they will make less money with that as they did before with selling the expensive CD?s

DVTimes · 12-27-2003, 06:06 AM

Why is this stupid?

It seems more than a good idea.

I am sure some time back that people said the same think about porn.

pradaboy · 12-27-2003, 06:12 AM

nah... it won't work... I'll stick to porn

DVTimes · 12-27-2003, 06:18 AM

Some time back, I would have said that about sites such as Playboy, yet webmasters jumped in, and made it work.

"big money", as for the money, would you be looking to make as much as Sony records? Well no, but do you earn as much as Sony records as you do with porn? Well of course not. No one is suggesting you will make millions, but there is no reason why you could not earn from it.

The way I see it, is that a band produces a send, or several songs. The song(s) are then sold to webmasters on a licence system. If the song/record is good then more sites will buy it. And so, both the band and producers make there cash this way. OK, it may be less money than selling CD's for a band, BUT, if the band was not taken on by any record firm, this is a good way to get exposure.

Webmasters would then sell the MP3 files, probably on a token payment setup, maybe say 1 dollar a song.

MP3 players are getting very popular AND your target ordiance is everybody, not just adults.

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I don?t think small webmasters can make any big money through that, only big companies/sites can make real profits, basically the companies with own content (songs) and they will make less money with that as they did before with selling the expensive CD?s

DVTimes · 12-27-2003, 06:21 AM

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nah... it won't work... I'll stick to porn

Its funny how many people say this, then someone comes along and makes it work.

They said the lightbulb would not work.

BlackCrayon · 12-27-2003, 09:45 AM

the only way i could see something like this working and being profitable is if these new pay download sites have affiliate programs. like this 'puretunes' thing i keep hearing about. have some mp3s on the site to entice and then try and sell them a membership to puretunes for a commission. i used to make music sites before i did porn sites, they never made me any money aside from the odd check from valueclick banners. this was before mp3s tho.

smproduction · 12-27-2003, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by allanuk
Why music could be the next porn

Porn sites are very much saturated on the market, and so clever webmasters may want to diversify.

Porn on the net works well as it satisfied many wants and needs, such as:
* Availability
* Cost
* Ease of access
* Available any time

Even today the 'old boys' of porn seem to fail to understand the net (Playboy, Penthouse), while the little man has jumped in and done what the big boys should have.

So how about music? Record firms are failing both consumer and the musicians. They produce overpriced CD's and only what they feel will sell. This leaves many bands unable to sell, and those that do may only sell the odd single.

So why not the webmaster jump in. With MP3 files being not much bigger than photographs, and yet produce high quality sound. Why not sell files from your site the same way as porn?

It would seem sensible for small record studios to set them selves up as content producers, recording records then selling them to websites.

In the same way as you get different porn sites (i.e. bondage, young, Asian and so on), why not the same for music sites (i.e., 80's, pop, rock, punk and so on).

Plus as music is not a problem for most countries, one would think webmasters would have an easer time legally.

I think it is a really good idea, but you have to create a sort of hub, a site so big and so rich in new bands and artists that captures the visitors. If you can create a brand then maybe you have some chance to win.

Head · 12-27-2003, 10:23 AM

I would like to see something like that work; as i am a Singer. It would take time a lot of dinkin around to get it going.

Fletch XXX · 12-27-2003, 10:31 AM

you just have no clue how the record industry works.

success has nothing to do with what you record in a studio nowadays.

if every band I see in the studio that records a kick ass album made it big there would be no emphasis placed on how lucky it is to actually 'blow up.'

first off recording studios arent in it to make you big, they ca barely record enough music to stay afloat, do you even know how many rcording studios are around me? i live in studuio city! hahahan its like pizza parlors here, studios are everywhere! and they are for the most part starving for money.

you have to understand how the music industry works before you can try and better it.

and for the record, the music industry is much more dirty (cut throat) than the porn industry will ever be.

and the music industry is NOT about the artist anymore, rarely ever was, but the first step is to learn that... the studios do not care about the artist other than to make them sound good.

i have friends who tweak peoples voice until they are in tune, they apply effects thatharmonize and allow the singers to sing in tune if they mess up, THAT is what recording studios do, not make you famous hahaha

Rictor · 12-27-2003, 10:52 AM

Okay, to do this legally, you would either have to make deals with unsigned bands and pay them a comission based on every sale or make a deal with studios to use their music on your site, which is pretty much impossible without millions of dollars to throw around.

The music industry has a lock on distribution of signed bands and signed bands are what people want to hear.

Ross · 12-27-2003, 11:01 AM

This won't work. Not for a long time yet. You need big bucks to set it up, you will have to negotiate a deal with a fairly big record company so you can have a starting base of music.

There is so many flaws in this idea. It won't work.

inthestars · 12-27-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by allanuk
Why music could be the next porn

So how about music? Record firms are failing both consumer and the musicians. They produce overpriced CD's and only what they feel will sell. This leaves many bands unable to sell, and those that do may only sell the odd single.

So why not the webmaster jump in. With MP3 files being not much bigger than photographs, and yet produce high quality sound. Why not sell files from your site the same way as porn?
.

Did you just recently get a PC? Ever heard of Mp3.com or Besonic.com?

DVTimes · 12-27-2003, 02:04 PM

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you just have no clue how the record industry works.

Yes, I do know how the music world works. Does that mean it cannot be re-invented.

People used to do all there shopping in a local shop, but someone re-invented it, so now we shop in supermarkets.

There is no reason at all why it cannot work.

All I have heard is "it cannot be done", "boo hoo I cannot make it work", well fine, if you cannot make it work, stand to one side as I know there will be people reading this who can make it work.

Most negative posts are full of 'barriers', such as "you need lots of cash", no more than you do with porn. I am sure many small bands would be happy to sell there music this way.

"There are big sites doing this", sure, last time I heard, they were owned by big firms, and so defeats the object.

What many of you are thinking, is selling big artists, well forget that - that's big time stuff. I am thinking of the small groups that would never normally get signed up. At very least, buy a decent mini disc, record the group with it, then convert it to MP3 files. Then set up a site for them, a few pics, info on them, and a way to sell there songs. OK you may not get rich, but its not an expensive setup.

If you think the rules are against you, then change them.

If you want to follow the rules, then, to be honest, 'get the f*ck out of porn', because to make it in porn, you have to invent and re-invent each and every day. Perhaps that's why porn is so dull, and every f*cking web site looks the same.

Sorry to get nasty, but I get so dammed fed up with people who can only see problems, but cannot solve them. I am only interested in solutions.

BlackCrayon · 12-27-2003, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by allanuk

What many of you are thinking, is selling big artists, well forget that - that's big time stuff. I am thinking of the small groups that would never normally get signed up. At very least, buy a decent mini disc, record the group with it, then convert it to MP3 files. Then set up a site for them, a few pics, info on them, and a way to sell there songs. OK you may not get rich, but its not an expensive setup.

i don't want to add another negative post but think about this, would YOU pay money to listen to bands you've never heard of before? you'd have much better luck with already established artists but a much much higher cost too.

THeCatMan · 12-27-2003, 04:54 PM

This all makes sense, I produce my own music for the trailers on the sites I produce www.shegotconned.com; www.coedsneedcash.com; www.blinddatebangers.com, and because of this I have been able to provide my music to other mean of media, including a church who could not afford an orchestra to play the Messiah, by G.F. Handel , and commissioned me to Arrange it Via Fruity Loops (GREAT PROGRAM) to be performed with their chorus... Ironic no? Pornographers getting church work!!! We're COMIN' Out!

TheJimmy · 12-27-2003, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
This is stupid on so many levels I'm not even gonna get into it.

I"m going to have to agree with Jesus on this, and NO not because a bunch of people thought it'd be nifty to celebrate his b-day the other day...

Caspah · 12-27-2003, 05:10 PM

music just doesnt arouse me as much as porn and im sure other online condumers feel the same. its that lump in your pants that maks you pull out your credit card

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DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,626	Why music could be the next porn Why music could be the next porn Porn sites are very much saturated on the market, and so clever webmasters may want to diversify. Porn on the net works well as it satisfied many wants and needs, such as: * Availability * Cost * Ease of access * Available any time Even today the 'old boys' of porn seem to fail to understand the net (Playboy, Penthouse), while the little man has jumped in and done what the big boys should have. So how about music? Record firms are failing both consumer and the musicians. They produce overpriced CD's and only what they feel will sell. This leaves many bands unable to sell, and those that do may only sell the odd single. So why not the webmaster jump in. With MP3 files being not much bigger than photographs, and yet produce high quality sound. Why not sell files from your site the same way as porn? It would seem sensible for small record studios to set them selves up as content producers, recording records then selling them to websites. In the same way as you get different porn sites (i.e. bondage, young, Asian and so on), why not the same for music sites (i.e., 80's, pop, rock, punk and so on). Plus as music is not a problem for most countries, one would think webmasters would have an easer time legally.

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	you just have no clue how the record industry works. success has nothing to do with what you record in a studio nowadays. if every band I see in the studio that records a kick ass album made it big there would be no emphasis placed on how lucky it is to actually 'blow up.' first off recording studios arent in it to make you big, they ca barely record enough music to stay afloat, do you even know how many rcording studios are around me? i live in studuio city! hahahan its like pizza parlors here, studios are everywhere! and they are for the most part starving for money. you have to understand how the music industry works before you can try and better it. and for the record, the music industry is much more dirty (cut throat) than the porn industry will ever be. and the music industry is NOT about the artist anymore, rarely ever was, but the first step is to learn that... the studios do not care about the artist other than to make them sound good. i have friends who tweak peoples voice until they are in tune, they apply effects thatharmonize and allow the singers to sing in tune if they mess up, THAT is what recording studios do, not make you famous hahaha __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

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Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Okay, to do this legally, you would either have to make deals with unsigned bands and pay them a comission based on every sale or make a deal with studios to use their music on your site, which is pretty much impossible without millions of dollars to throw around. The music industry has a lock on distribution of signed bands and signed bands are what people want to hear.

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