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ThePornGuy · 08-11-2003, 08:41 AM

Think about it. There is going to be a ballot with 192 names on it. In that big ass long list of names, guess who is going ot have the most recognition. Not only that but 42% of people polled said that there is a strong chance they would vote for him. The next closest is some democrat with 20% or something. It does seem like he has a really strong chance of winning.

directfiesta · 08-11-2003, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThePornGuy
Think about it. There is going to be a ballot with 192 names on it. In that big ass long list of names, guess who is going ot have the most recognition.

He would loose if the voters had to spell his last name....

No wonder they all call him ' Arnold"...

Lonny · 08-11-2003, 09:25 AM

sure he's up 25% over davis right now, plus what gets me is Arnold is by far richer then california which tells the people that he doesnt need our money from speacial interest.

loverboy · 08-11-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
You guys are not local here, but Arnold is making appearances all over, even within a mile or so from me and is drawing nice size crowds. He was just outside the big Warner bros studio not long ago, big crowd, he sure has some fans ;)

regardless of how its getting played on cnn and around the world, he has many supporters and i think california wants a more welcome and household name, other than the soulless kidnapping politicians we have in office now.

Its more of a people vs the state kinda of thing.

People can laugh, but this will b e proof that our system can actually still work. Davis not working? get him out, then repace him with WHO THE PEOPLE WANT.

Can't really knock it, thats how it is supposed to work.

Im glad its possible.

well said

loverboy · 08-11-2003, 10:57 AM

it seems Arnold is a sure win already, taking CA with charm and popularity.

Gemini · 08-11-2003, 11:30 AM

Davis hasn't started his mud slinging yet... odds are he will try to confront ANY contender with "what are YOUR plans"... but this has puzzled me for years, How can a new candidate really have serious plans?

They aren't privy to what the actual politicians know that are currently in office. They don't have honest numbers or facts. They all go in blind.

But pro politicians don't seem to be doing a very good job any more. They just go with the flow. And make the same mistakes over and over. Milk education and social security. F the young and hopefully the old die soon. (Think about that the next time you visit your parents or look at your kids)

We need to recall the electoral college next. ;-)

And recall the lifetime salaries for retired high government officials that usually don't need it anyhow.

optikalz · 08-11-2003, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

I even saw Ann Coulter call him a jerkoff. ....

Ann Coulter looks and thinks like a horse...of course of course.

wargames · 08-11-2003, 11:45 AM

hell ya

Maru · 08-11-2003, 12:50 PM

Of course Arnold could win. That is - if Donald Duck or Woody Woodpecker aren't on the ballot.

Gemini · 08-11-2003, 01:04 PM

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arial · 08-11-2003, 01:09 PM

Considering Cali's election is going to be a circus sure he can win.

Gemini · 08-11-2003, 01:12 PM

Dear Maru,

In reply to your recent request for a life and / or intelligence, we would like to inform you that due to the decline in royalty, court jester positions are in rapid decline.

Forunately, the US decided to allow us the use of porta-john technology and we have reserved a position in the conveyance technicians area just for you!

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punkrockgeekboy · 08-11-2003, 01:16 PM

Fuck ARnold.

Vote for Larry.. The SmutPeddler who cares!

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Maru · 08-11-2003, 01:35 PM

Hi Gemini,

Nice day, isn't it?

As to Arnold - where does intelligence come into the discussion?

Arnold would make for a fine American politician in the tradition of Ronald Reagan or Jesse Ventura. Americans always preferred superficiality to substance. A real thinker wouldn't stand a chance in an American election. US-citizens get their information from 10-seconds tidbits on TV. That's right up Arnold's ally.

Oh, well. At least he's European. Maybe I'm too hard on him. There are a couple of good things in his
rhetorics. Could be worse, I guess....

kath · 08-11-2003, 01:40 PM

It's a circus... anyone could win. lol

The sad thing is that Larry probably has the best handle on the issues/topics that Californians are thinking about, but he won't make it. There's no way. What a shame. I think he could really do good things for California but this state has gone way too conservative in the last few years...

*sigh*

Gemini · 08-11-2003, 02:07 PM

Sorry Maru, I guess I was abit harsh. I'm tired of Euro's bashing the US just like I'm sure you're take is that most Americans bash Europe. Truth be, neither of us really have a handle on how our governments act. You take what our governemet says as what WE think. Untrue. Sad to say. A truth is we could care less how the other lives or behaves as long as it doesn't affect us. Different cultures and different thoughts.

But in this arena, Arnold has a 50-50 shot. Regan? LMAO He could have been worse but he had many of the same inane idiots that Bush has as so called guides to decisions. So did daddy Bush. Just look to their admins to see what will happen with the current ones.

At least Arnold comes across as honest and for the people. What more could California ask for? More of the SSDD or perhaps a chance to go forward.

For the people, BY the people is a joke.

loverboy · 08-11-2003, 02:16 PM

hmmm....some politicians have questioned Schwarzenegger's abilities due to his ducking of detailed questions about key issues. any comments?

sperbonzo · 08-11-2003, 02:20 PM

I think that it's hilarious that the Europeans make fun of American politics......This from a region that in the last 100 years has produced Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Milosovevek, Stalin, etc..... Military coups in Spain only 15 years ago, rioting in the streets everytime a goverment forces a change in argricultural prices, constant problems with "ethinic cleansing" and still has Kings, Queens, princes, dukes, etc....

As for the Arnold question, our system was NEVER meant to have "career polititions". It was SUPPOSED to be goverment by people that got voted in by their peers, go do a term and then come back home and go on with their lives. Career polititions are the damn problem!

nosey · 08-11-2003, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by loverboy
hmmm....some politicians have questioned Schwarzenegger's abilities due to his ducking of detailed questions about key issues. any comments?

will see soon

Maru · 08-11-2003, 05:01 PM

-- I think that it's hilarious that the Europeans make fun of American politics. --

Yes, it's blasphemous. Making fun of the masters of the universe? Shocking.

-- This from a region that in the last 100 years has produced Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Milosovevek, Stalin, etc. --

Er...Europe is not a region, it's a continent. There are 7 of those. Milosovevek? Europe also produced Luther, Bach, Shakespeare, Leonardo da Vinci, Churchill and a couple of others.

-- Military coups in Spain only 15 years ago --

There was one in 1981 and it was a big joke.

-- rioting in the streets everytime a goverment forces a change in argricultural prices --

That's France. You see: Not all French dine at McDonald's. They have an agriculture that dates back hundreds of years and make some of the best products in the world. Just think of wine and cheese. They want to protect that tradition which, in a way, is comprehensible. By the way: It's not rioting like you have it in USA because the social inequality isn't as big in Europe as it is in USA. It's mostly peaceful demonstrations. Also, French agricultural politics is a big issue here but the French are pretty stubborn people.

-- constant problems with "ethinic cleansing" --

Constant? There was a Berlin wall that was removed. In the wake, there were some nasty problems in the former Yugoslavia. Nowadays, they play soccer matches against each other. It was basically a conflict between Christians and Muslims - something which is happening in other parts of the world and not only Europe. 11/7 was a clash of cultures in it's own way.

-- and still has Kings, Queens, princes, dukes, etc.... --

Yea, that's awful, isn't it? So when Lady Diana died, no one in USA noticed. No copies of National Enquirer were sold with her on the cover?

-- As for the Arnold question, our system was NEVER meant to have "career polititions". It was SUPPOSED to be goverment by people that got voted in by their peers, go do a term and then come back home and go on with their lives. Career polititions are the damn problem! --

It's rich people screwing poor people. Like everything else in USA. Right-wing Reagan was brought on by a bunch of millionaires who wanted the policy of the rich to be imposed. He was the perfect stand-in for that. I'm glad you still have your illusions. The system is counting on people like you.

...

On a different note: The war in Iraq has sharpened the US-Europe divergence. Many Europeans are bloody fed up with USA playing the self-imposed policeman of the world. Europeans are convinced that it's USA getting it wrong. And the other way around. Add to that the traditional American contempt and ignorance of everything non-American, and you have the recipe for conflicts down the road.

My opinion: Europe needs to get together, forget some of the old rivalry and form a real alternative to the US-Israel axis.

Just_Dave · 08-11-2003, 05:05 PM

he has a good chance of winning

Pornwolf · 08-11-2003, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by Maru
Blah blah blah... blah bloody blah blah

This coming from a group countries that's still holding on to a nonsensical monarchy as well as a powerless government in the 21st century. Yeah, we really respect your opinion.

theking · 08-11-2003, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ikonworx
sure he's up 25% over davis right now, plus what gets me is Arnold is by far richer then california which tells the people that he doesnt need our money from speacial interest.

California has the 5th largest economy on the earth and Arnold, to the best of my knowledge, is not even listed as being among the richest men on the earth.

freeadultcontent · 08-11-2003, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Its more of a people vs the state kinda of thing.

People can laugh, but this will b e proof that our system can actually still work. Davis not working? get him out, then repace him with WHO THE PEOPLE WANT.

Can't really knock it, thats how it is supposed to work.

Im glad its possible.

No the people got who they wanted, you know the ones that actually went out and voted.

HEARTBREAKER · 08-11-2003, 06:36 PM

he might win but not sure with his political experience...

frippeno · 08-11-2003, 06:59 PM

I have no problem with Arnold, seems like a nice guy. But anyone who thinks he can do something Davis couldn't is suffering from cranial/rectal inversion.

If the voters of California vote this guy in they will get exactly what they deserve. A puppet taking orders.

And BTW - the budget crisis in California stems *mostly* from the energy trading fraud perpetrated by Bush*'s buddy Kenny Boy and friends. Still not indicted, aw ain't that peculiar. The discovery phase of the trail (California vs Enron) is about to begin and there are a lot of "leaders" who want to scuttle that whole thing as fast as they can. Wouldn't be prudent to allow the masses to know what really happened now would it.

America in general is getting the government it deserves. Nobody will care until their ox is gored, and by then it won't matter at all, everybody's ox will be dead

loverboy · 08-12-2003, 09:11 AM

Embattled California Gov. Gray Davis begins his campaign to keep his job when the state holds its recall election.

loverboy · 08-13-2003, 08:21 AM

I'll be back --- arnold

08-11-2003, 11:30 AM	#56
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Davis hasn't started his mud slinging yet... odds are he will try to confront ANY contender with "what are YOUR plans"... but this has puzzled me for years, How can a new candidate really have serious plans? They aren't privy to what the actual politicians know that are currently in office. They don't have honest numbers or facts. They all go in blind. But pro politicians don't seem to be doing a very good job any more. They just go with the flow. And make the same mistakes over and over. Milk education and social security. F the young and hopefully the old die soon. (Think about that the next time you visit your parents or look at your kids) We need to recall the electoral college next. ;-) And recall the lifetime salaries for retired high government officials that usually don't need it anyhow. __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

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08-11-2003, 01:04 PM	#60
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Dear Maru, On reply to your recent request for a life and / or intelligence, we would like to inform you that due to the decline in royalty, court jester positions are in rapid decline. Forunately, the US decided to allow us the use of porta-john technology and we have reserved a position in the conveyance technicians area just for you! Reply via snail mail asap to confirm, and be sure to swat the horse on the hindquarters after paying for express mail! __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

08-11-2003, 01:12 PM	#62
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Dear Maru, In reply to your recent request for a life and / or intelligence, we would like to inform you that due to the decline in royalty, court jester positions are in rapid decline. Forunately, the US decided to allow us the use of porta-john technology and we have reserved a position in the conveyance technicians area just for you! Reply via snail mail asap to confirm, and be sure to swat the horse on the hindquarters after paying for express mail! __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

08-11-2003, 01:40 PM	#65
kath Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 92	It's a circus... anyone could win. lol The sad thing is that Larry probably has the best handle on the issues/topics that Californians are thinking about, but he won't make it. There's no way. What a shame. I think he could really do good things for California but this state has gone way too conservative in the last few years... sigh __________________ Klixxx.com - Get more from YOUR industry magazine!

08-11-2003, 08:41 AM	#51
ThePornGuy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 275	Think about it. There is going to be a ballot with 192 names on it. In that big ass long list of names, guess who is going ot have the most recognition. Not only that but 42% of people polled said that there is a strong chance they would vote for him. The next closest is some democrat with 20% or something. It does seem like he has a really strong chance of winning.

08-11-2003, 09:25 AM	#53
Lonny Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Riverside Ca. Posts: 3,539	sure he's up 25% over davis right now, plus what gets me is Arnold is by far richer then california which tells the people that he doesnt need our money from speacial interest.

08-11-2003, 10:57 AM	#55
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	it seems Arnold is a sure win already, taking CA with charm and popularity.

08-11-2003, 12:50 PM	#59
Maru Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 918	Of course Arnold could win. That is - if Donald Duck or Woody Woodpecker aren't on the ballot.

08-11-2003, 01:09 PM	#61
arial Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 4,012	Considering Cali's election is going to be a circus sure he can win.

08-11-2003, 01:16 PM	#63
punkrockgeekboy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 16	Fuck ARnold. Vote for Larry.. The SmutPeddler who cares! Check out my flynt info site at http://www.flyntforgovernor.org/ We add new news items every hour, but by tommorrow we'll have 1 new news item every hour with discussion on it & up to date headlines on a seperate page via xml every 5 minutes.

08-11-2003, 01:35 PM	#64
Maru Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 918	Hi Gemini, Nice day, isn't it? As to Arnold - where does intelligence come into the discussion? Arnold would make for a fine American politician in the tradition of Ronald Reagan or Jesse Ventura. Americans always preferred superficiality to substance. A real thinker wouldn't stand a chance in an American election. US-citizens get their information from 10-seconds tidbits on TV. That's right up Arnold's ally. Oh, well. At least he's European. Maybe I'm too hard on him. There are a couple of good things in his rhetorics. Could be worse, I guess....

08-11-2003, 02:07 PM	#66
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Sorry Maru, I guess I was abit harsh. I'm tired of Euro's bashing the US just like I'm sure you're take is that most Americans bash Europe. Truth be, neither of us really have a handle on how our governments act. You take what our governemet says as what WE think. Untrue. Sad to say. A truth is we could care less how the other lives or behaves as long as it doesn't affect us. Different cultures and different thoughts. But in this arena, Arnold has a 50-50 shot. Regan? LMAO He could have been worse but he had many of the same inane idiots that Bush has as so called guides to decisions. So did daddy Bush. Just look to their admins to see what will happen with the current ones. At least Arnold comes across as honest and for the people. What more could California ask for? More of the SSDD or perhaps a chance to go forward. For the people, BY the people is a joke. __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

08-11-2003, 02:16 PM	#67
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	hmmm....some politicians have questioned Schwarzenegger's abilities due to his ducking of detailed questions about key issues. any comments?

08-11-2003, 02:20 PM	#68
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	I think that it's hilarious that the Europeans make fun of American politics......This from a region that in the last 100 years has produced Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Milosovevek, Stalin, etc..... Military coups in Spain only 15 years ago, rioting in the streets everytime a goverment forces a change in argricultural prices, constant problems with "ethinic cleansing" and still has Kings, Queens, princes, dukes, etc.... As for the Arnold question, our system was NEVER meant to have "career polititions". It was SUPPOSED to be goverment by people that got voted in by their peers, go do a term and then come back home and go on with their lives. Career polititions are the damn problem!

08-11-2003, 05:01 PM	#70
Maru Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 918	-- I think that it's hilarious that the Europeans make fun of American politics. -- Yes, it's blasphemous. Making fun of the masters of the universe? Shocking. -- This from a region that in the last 100 years has produced Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Milosovevek, Stalin, etc. -- Er...Europe is not a region, it's a continent. There are 7 of those. Milosovevek? Europe also produced Luther, Bach, Shakespeare, Leonardo da Vinci, Churchill and a couple of others. -- Military coups in Spain only 15 years ago -- There was one in 1981 and it was a big joke. -- rioting in the streets everytime a goverment forces a change in argricultural prices -- That's France. You see: Not all French dine at McDonald's. They have an agriculture that dates back hundreds of years and make some of the best products in the world. Just think of wine and cheese. They want to protect that tradition which, in a way, is comprehensible. By the way: It's not rioting like you have it in USA because the social inequality isn't as big in Europe as it is in USA. It's mostly peaceful demonstrations. Also, French agricultural politics is a big issue here but the French are pretty stubborn people. -- constant problems with "ethinic cleansing" -- Constant? There was a Berlin wall that was removed. In the wake, there were some nasty problems in the former Yugoslavia. Nowadays, they play soccer matches against each other. It was basically a conflict between Christians and Muslims - something which is happening in other parts of the world and not only Europe. 11/7 was a clash of cultures in it's own way. -- and still has Kings, Queens, princes, dukes, etc.... -- Yea, that's awful, isn't it? So when Lady Diana died, no one in USA noticed. No copies of National Enquirer were sold with her on the cover? -- As for the Arnold question, our system was NEVER meant to have "career polititions". It was SUPPOSED to be goverment by people that got voted in by their peers, go do a term and then come back home and go on with their lives. Career polititions are the damn problem! -- It's rich people screwing poor people. Like everything else in USA. Right-wing Reagan was brought on by a bunch of millionaires who wanted the policy of the rich to be imposed. He was the perfect stand-in for that. I'm glad you still have your illusions. The system is counting on people like you. ... On a different note: The war in Iraq has sharpened the US-Europe divergence. Many Europeans are bloody fed up with USA playing the self-imposed policeman of the world. Europeans are convinced that it's USA getting it wrong. And the other way around. Add to that the traditional American contempt and ignorance of everything non-American, and you have the recipe for conflicts down the road. My opinion: Europe needs to get together, forget some of the old rivalry and form a real alternative to the US-Israel axis.

08-11-2003, 05:05 PM	#71
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	he has a good chance of winning

08-11-2003, 06:36 PM	#75
HEARTBREAKER Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,984	he might win but not sure with his political experience... __________________ An Adult IT Staffing Solutions Company email: [email protected] icq: 418366319 Tel.#: 1-702-940-0789 (U.S. Toll Free)

08-11-2003, 06:59 PM	#76
frippeno Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 133	I have no problem with Arnold, seems like a nice guy. But anyone who thinks he can do something Davis couldn't is suffering from cranial/rectal inversion. If the voters of California vote this guy in they will get exactly what they deserve. A puppet taking orders. And BTW - the budget crisis in California stems mostly from the energy trading fraud perpetrated by Bush*'s buddy Kenny Boy and friends. Still not indicted, aw ain't that peculiar. The discovery phase of the trail (California vs Enron) is about to begin and there are a lot of "leaders" who want to scuttle that whole thing as fast as they can. Wouldn't be prudent to allow the masses to know what really happened now would it. America in general is getting the government it deserves. Nobody will care until their ox is gored, and by then it won't matter at all, everybody's ox will be dead __________________ it only took one brick to make that window drop

08-12-2003, 09:11 AM	#77
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	Embattled California Gov. Gray Davis begins his campaign to keep his job when the state holds its recall election.

08-13-2003, 08:21 AM	#78
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	I'll be back --- arnold